Is it possable to unlock my sprint HTC to be used on straight talk (AT&T) SIM?
If possable could would I be able to get LTE or HSPA+ data?
Currently I'm only able to get 3G speed on my HTC One as sprint has no LTE in Vegas.
AT&T LTE is everywhere here in Vegas & has service at my house. I only get one bar if service at my house with sprint.
Please let me know if it's possible.
salsa88 said:
Is it possable to unlock my sprint HTC to be used on straight talk (AT&T) SIM?
If possable could would I be able to get LTE or HSPA+ data?
Currently I'm only able to get 3G speed on my HTC One as sprint has no LTE in Vegas.
AT&T LTE is everywhere here in Vegas & has service at my house. I only get one bar if service at my house with sprint.
Please let me know if it's possible.
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It is not possible.
Also, even if somehow the phone could be unlocked for AT&T use, it would likely perform very poorly as a smartphone because it doesn't support any of AT&T's LTE bands, nor UMTS/HSPA+ 850 which is also a very important band with AT&T.
Plus, I don't believe that AT&T allows LTE use on any of the third party MVNOs that use it.
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It is not possible.
Also, even if somehow the phone could be unlocked for AT&T use, it would likely perform very poorly as a smartphone because it doesn't support any of AT&T's LTE bands, nor UMTS/HSPA+ 850 which is also a very important band with AT&T.
Plus, I don't believe that AT&T allows LTE use on any of the third party MVNOs that use it.
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Thank you great info.
my last question is would I be able to switch to MetroPcs
They offer unlimited LTE in las Vegas
salsa88 said:
Thank you great info.
my last question is would I be able to switch to MetroPcs
They offer unlimited LTE in las Vegas
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I believe I have seen someone say they were able to flash their ONE to Metro PCS. Don't know how, but that should be possible.
salsa88 said:
Thank you great info.
my last question is would I be able to switch to MetroPcs
They offer unlimited LTE in las Vegas
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Metro's LTE band is in the 1700MHz (AWS) band which is not supported by the Sprint HTC One.
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undrgrndchemist said:
I believe I have seen someone say they were able to flash their ONE to Metro PCS. Don't know how, but that should be possible.
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Yes but only with slow CDMA 3G (which will be going away eventually anyway as part of the TMO merger).
Hmm looks like my options of LTE on my HTC one is not looking very good..
any options to get LTE on my HTC One?
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Hmm looks like my options of LTE on my HTC one is not looking very good..
any options to get LTE on my HTC One?
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No lte in Vegas? Up until a certain point, not let in los Angeles as well while places in the middle on Arkansas has it.
I don't understand how Sprint prioritizes their markets
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No lte in Vegas? Up until a certain point, not let in los Angeles as well while places in the middle on Arkansas has it.
I don't understand how Sprint prioritizes their markets
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It's not hard to understand, actually, so long as you look at it from Sprint's market perspective and not from the "why don't I have it?" perspective. Not to ding you or anything, but people are very good at rationalizing reasons they've been wronged, especially when money (the $10/mo surcharge) is involved.
Sprint is targeting areas with relatively low LTE deployment/development, which usually means more out of the way areas and suburbs because until/unless the Softbank merger goes through, they don't really have the capital or spectrum to compete with AT&T or Verizon in LTE buildout. They've been using their money (very wisely, I might add) in retiring their IDEN equipment so that they can refarm spectrum, but until then, they're going to concentrate on markets they can bring LTE to cheaply and semi-exclusively, so as to snag those customers.
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It's not hard to understand, actually, so long as you look at it from Sprint's market perspective and not from the "why don't I have it?" perspective. Not to ding you or anything, but people are very good at rationalizing reasons they've been wronged, especially when money (the $10/mo surcharge) is involved.
Sprint is targeting areas with relatively low LTE deployment/development, which usually means more out of the way areas and suburbs because until/unless the Softbank merger goes through, they don't really have the capital or spectrum to compete with AT&T or Verizon in LTE buildout. They've been using their money (very wisely, I might add) in retiring their IDEN equipment so that they can refarm spectrum, but until then, they're going to concentrate on markets they can bring LTE to cheaply and semi-exclusively, so as to snag those customers.
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Not sure much much of this makes sense. There's basically 4 carriers and Verizon and AT&T has launched in most of them so I don't known what you mean by semi-exclusively. Being third in a 4 man race is nothing special.
There is a reason smaller markets are cheap...it's because they are small. It's not necessarily the best move to invest in the cheapest market...especially if it's as you say, at the cost of larger markets.
I doubt Sprint is retiring it's iden network without immediate plans to replace it. This is like throwing out your hammer in anticipation of buying another one next year.
I don't know why Sprint does what it's does but a lot of what you said seems to be wild conjecture
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Not sure much much of this makes sense. There's basically 4 carriers and Verizon and AT&T has launched in most of them so I don't known what you mean by semi-exclusively. Being third in a 4 man race is nothing special.
There is a reason smaller markets are cheap...it's because they are small. It's not necessarily the best move to invest in the cheapest market...especially if it's as you say, at the cost of larger markets.
I doubt Sprint is retiring it's iden network without immediate plans to replace it. This is like throwing out your hammer in anticipation of buying another one next year.
I don't know why Sprint does what it's does but a lot of what you said seems to be wild conjecture
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No offense, but a lot of what you're saying betrays both unfamiliarity with basic economics and technology.
Sprint is targeting areas where they can build out coverage cheaply, and with towers close to markets that, if they have service at all, are from more distant towers provided by AT&T and Verizon. Cost of tower rent and leasing is key, because if you try to build out a larger market, you will not only be behind two major competitors, but spend a significant amount of money to still be behind. It's harder to break into a market where other carriers have devoted a significant amount of resources to, as opposed to one that's more on the margins.
"At the cost of larger markets" also betrays a fixation on longterm, endgame planning. Sprint, right now, is investing a significant amount of money in IDEN teardown and LTE buildout. They have limited cash reserves as a result of both, and until/if the Softbank merger goes through, they're not really looking in a cash infusion anytime soon. They need to get more people and more plans in the door, and the way to expand reach is to target less-solidified markets. Once they have those, they can try for the cities.
It's your comment on IDEN that really has me baffled. Did you even do a cursory search as to what IDEN is? IDEN is older network technology that used to power Nextel's network, and after the Sprint/Nextel merger, Sprint continued to maintain an entirely separate telephony system that, at most, provided patchy extended coverage for its CDMA devices. Meanwhile, the old IDEN equipment continues to hog spectrum that Sprint needs to build out its coverage.
The silliest thing about all of this is your last point: "why would they shut this down without planning to replace it?" Sprint's entire current network is meant to be a replacement for IDEN...and the IDEN shutdown isn't exactly new news. Sprint (http://newsroom.sprint.com/news-rel...-network-on-schedule-to-shut-down-june-30.htm) has been planning this for almost the last year and a half.
That info is seriously one Google search away.
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No offense, but a lot of what you're saying betrays both unfamiliarity with basic economics and technology.
Sprint is targeting areas where they can build out coverage cheaply, and with towers close to markets that, if they have service at all, are from more distant towers provided by AT&T and Verizon. Cost of tower rent and leasing is key, because if you try to build out a larger market, you will not only be behind two major competitors, but spend a significant amount of money to still be behind. It's harder to break into a market where other carriers have devoted a significant amount of resources to, as opposed to one that's more on the margins.
"At the cost of larger markets" also betrays a fixation on longterm, endgame planning. Sprint, right now, is investing a significant amount of money in IDEN teardown and LTE buildout. They have limited cash reserves as a result of both, and until/if the Softbank merger goes through, they're not really looking in a cash infusion anytime soon. They need to get more people and more plans in the door, and the way to expand reach is to target less-solidified markets. Once they have those, they can try for the cities.
It's your comment on IDEN that really has me baffled. Did you even do a cursory search as to what IDEN is? IDEN is older network technology that used to power Nextel's network, and after the Sprint/Nextel merger, Sprint continued to maintain an entirely separate telephony system that, at most, provided patchy extended coverage for its CDMA devices. Meanwhile, the old IDEN equipment continues to hog spectrum that Sprint needs to build out its coverage.
The silliest thing about all of this is your last point: "why would they shut this down without planning to replace it?" Sprint's entire current network is meant to be a replacement for IDEN...and the IDEN shutdown isn't exactly new news. Sprint (http://newsroom.sprint.com/news-rel...-network-on-schedule-to-shut-down-june-30.htm) has been planning this for almost the last year and a half.
That info is seriously one Google search away.
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No offence but your statements betrays the facts, and misrepresents what I actually said.
Sprint already have towers in L.A. metro area. In fact L.A. has lte now...before the merger. Spirit has towers in Vegas, and is deploying lte there now... so there goes your theory?
Sprint is not new to these markets. They already have infrastructure here. The cost/benefit ratio in deploying in these markets makes much more business sense.
I know about IDEN. Notice my statement "tear it down without replacing it immediately"...my point was, they DO intend to replace it. An act they have committed to..Not contingent on a merger that may or may not happen. Sprint has been planning on doing this before the merger was even an option. A simple Google search would tell you this.
Not so sure why you act so all knowing. You're as oblivious to sprints plans as me or anyone else.
I apologize for betraying my unfamiliarity with both basic technology and economics.
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Further research shows that Sprint does not launch lte in markets until it's his a certain percentage of deployment (50ish). So larger markets take longer to deploy
So there you go.
Again, my apologies for betraying my unfamiliarity with both technology and basic economics.
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For all you folks complaining about AT&T capping your download speeds, it appears it's only going to get worse. The federal government so far has not made any progress toward getting additional spectrum available, forcing carriers to make do with what they've got. As the article in the link below notes, "Ultimately, carriers will have to get more creative about how they use their existing spectrum, which will likely result in stricter caps on usage. Consumers who use more data will likely be charged higher prices for that data."
http://news.cnet.com/8301-30686_3-57379526-266/how-politics-inflame-the-spectrum-crisis/?tag=nl.e404
In the short run, you might jump to another carrier, but in the long run, it could get worse for everyone. Lightsquare has been effectively stopped (for now) from building a new wireless network because of the potential for interfering with GPS signals. AT&T has been stopped from acquiring T-Mobile which would have given AT&T more spectrum.
So, as bad as things seem now, this may be the best that they will be.
PS: Also see this article:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57...-suffer/?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20
The FCC really needs to figure out how they are going to auction off the spectrum. Also, the whole ATT/T-mobile merger should have gone through. ATT is the only company that is compatible with T-mobile's equipment and can afford them.
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The FCC really needs to figure out how they are going to auction off the spectrum. Also, the whole ATT/T-mobile merger should have gone through. ATT is the only company that is compatible with T-mobile's equipment and can afford them.
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it was cited that the decrees in competition would hurt every one and the loss of high paying jobs was to great
Aww that's bull does the fed gov have contract with Verizon or somethin? Coz a merger like that would surely put them out of commission
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Cingular. Aka ma bell was broken up before for having a monopoly. Monopolies are bad for consumers, if any of you have graduated high school you should know this. Cingular has thus bought all tel, at&t, and now wants t-mobile. Creating another monopoly would not net us any better prices.
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Verizon bought alltel
So your saying Verizon is At&ts only competition ??? Lol
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Cingular. Aka ma bell was broken up before for having a monopoly. Monopolies are bad for consumers, if any of you have graduated high school you should know this. Cingular has thus bought all tel, at&t, and now wants t-mobile. Creating another monopoly would not net us any better prices.
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Cingular was not Ma Bell, it was a seperate company that purchased the failing wireless portion of At&t. Which was then purchased back by att, which wad really a rebranded SBC
Also Verizon purchased Alltel.
Good story though.
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How does the merger or buy out of T-Mobile from AT&T help the consumer in any sense? Less companies out there competing, the higher your prices are gonna be, simple as that. If verizon goes, all those consumers have to go somewhere....
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How does the merger or buy out of T-Mobile from AT&T help the consumer in any sense? Less companies out there competing, the higher your prices are gonna be, simple as that. If verizon goes, all those consumers have to go somewhere....
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One reason AT&T wanted to buy T-Mobile was to use its network to more rapidly expand its LTE network. Also, the two systems are compatible in some ways, making a transition easier.
As to competition as a way hold down prices, the major carriers (AT&T and Versizon) already control most of the market with T-Mobile and Sprint dividing a much smaller portion. Price comparisons I've seen usuaally show Verizon higher than AT&T for similar plans.
The main point I was making in the original post was that prices are likely to rise for all carriers in the long run as demand increases faster than the ability of the government and the carriers to provide adequate spectrum. The main concern should not be how many carriers there are, but whether the carriers (2 or 20) can meet the growing demand for high-speed services.
You got me about all tel, its another company I can't quite get off the tip of my tongue. Anyway.
Yes Verizon is the only real completion at&t has, tmo and sprint are too small. AT&T wireless was formed by by AT&T
AT&T wireless was doing so well they split into their own company. Sbc acquired Cingular which. At&t & Cingular were the two major companies in competition with Verizon but norther had the customer base alone to match Verizon.
Cingular bought at&t wireless and sbc bought at&t landline. Owning the rights to the name now Cingular and sbc changed their name to at&t thus gaining the same or a little more customers over Verizon. Sbc and at&t came to be when ma bell was forced to split due to monopoly.
Gobbling up the missing prices of ma bell and some small stragglers is creating another monopoly.
Just like the cable companies in many areas. There is only one and they raise there prices almost every other month. Only competition its satellite that forces you to sign contacts.
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This is why I'm glad the Tmobile merger was stopped or else things would've only gotten worse. The Government actually needs to break up Verizon and AT&T now since they are too big as it is and doing price fixing with each other.
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This is why I'm glad the Tmobile merger was stopped or else things would've only gotten worse. The Government actually needs to break up Verizon and AT&T now since they are too big as it is and doing price fixing with each other.
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However, that does not really address the basic issue here -- as data usage grows with more people using more wireless devices, the available spectrum/band-width (as it exists now) probably will not be able to keep up with the demand.
Economics 101: when demand exceeds supply, prices go up. Increasing the number of companies selling wireless service will not necessarily increase the amount of bandwidth available.
My point, is that the government, which ultimately controls wireless frequencies, has not acted in a timely manner to address the issue (with the exception of stopping a company that wanted to add more bandwidth).
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Very interesting article
Australia is just as bad with a lazy government. This NBN (National Broadband Network) appears to be nothing more than a spin from the Labor government, which can be an example of people who use lots of data suffering at the hands of lazy morons who really have no excuse for it.
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I feel sorry for those on AT&T's old unlimited plan who are getting throttled.
Capping plans appears to only benefit the carrier as they make millions off those who go over the capped amount.
I used 2GB in a two days on Telstra's 4G network.
So AT&T tries to buy T-mobile for $35 BILLION, but cant afford to upgrade their network. What a bunch of ****.
How can I see if Im getting throttled? I can do a speed test and get a good speed, but browsing is slow.
Telstra is looking to shaping customer when they go over their limit in a couple of months. This was announced last year. As per existing solution it will Text you when you are near the cap. I beleive that once you are capped you can purchase once off topups.
So examples are:
$49 Plan gives 1G for month, with $450 for Voice SMS
$59 gives 1.5G with $550 for Voice (free SMS /MMS)
etc
Once the shapping solution is deployed you can:
1. Not spend any more and manage to how much data you have for the month.
2. Purchase a once off data top up .
$10 = 1 Gig
$20 = 2 Gig
etc
3. Move to a offer that provide more data each month
Once implemented there will no longer be bill shock. You can then choose eactly how much you spend on data.
so when will they do this for home internet.. haha
In Australia Fixed broadband for Telstra has been capped for several years for consumer plans. So no bill shock possible on Fixed data.
As per previous post need to wait a couple more months until this capping is available for Mobiles. Then bill shock will be removed for fixed.
I don't beleive any smart long term techo believes Bill shock generates revenue it just drives loyal customers away, that might choose to use them for the next 30 years.
I've been with Sprint for 13 years and am thinking heavily about moving to Verizon and the S4 mainly for better coverage and data speed. Who has come from Verizon and what phone features didn't you have with Verizon? I have heard that Verizon doesn't have visual voice mail or google maps navigation. I don't want to go through the hassle of switching if Verizon is so stripped down you can't use the phones.
You'll lose unlimited data. You've been with Sprint for 13 years now, are they not providing good service in your area? Be aware that later this year Sprint will be adding voice carriers on 800Mhz which will greatly increase your voice coverage. Later on they will be adding LTE carrier(s) on 800Mhz as well as part of network vision 2.0 which will greatly increase LTE coverage as well.
But if big red can offer better service for your needs then that will clearly be the better, more expensive, option.
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With Verizon, you'll likely experience slower updates and a couple extra hoops to flash custom ROMs.
If Verizon didn't screw me over in the past, then I'd probably give them a chance again since in my area, they offer the best coverage for data.
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You'll lose unlimited data. You've been with Sprint for 13 years now, are they not providing good service in your area? Be aware that later this year Sprint will be adding voice carriers on 800Mhz which will greatly increase your voice coverage. Later on they will be adding LTE carrier(s) on 800Mhz as well as part of network vision 2.0 which will greatly increase LTE coverage as well.
But if big red can offer better service for your needs then that will clearly be the better, more expensive, option.
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Verizon is light years ahead of Sprint in every aspect of radio technology. Verizon's S4 is the first phone compatible with their AWS network. Sprint is a freaking joke compared to Verizon. Radio technicians completely rag on how bad Sprint is.
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I've been with Sprint for 13 years and am thinking heavily about moving to Verizon and the S4 mainly for better coverage and data speed. Who has come from Verizon and what phone features didn't you have with Verizon? I have heard that Verizon doesn't have visual voice mail or google maps navigation. I don't want to go through the hassle of switching if Verizon is so stripped down you can't use the phones.
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Google Maps Navigation is a app from Google, Verizon can't stop you from using it. If you want Visual Voice mail just download something like Google voice.
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Verizon is light years ahead of Sprint in every aspect of radio technology. Verizon's S4 is the first phone compatible with their AWS network. Sprint is a freaking joke compared to Verizon. Radio technicians completely rag on how bad Sprint is.
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Google Maps Navigation is a app from Google, Verizon can't stop you from using it. If you want Visual Voice mail just download something like Google voice.
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I've heard radio technicians rave about att, but I don't care. They still are the evil empire IMO.
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Verizon is light years ahead of Sprint in every aspect of radio technology. Verizon's S4 is the first phone compatible with their AWS network. Sprint is a freaking joke compared to Verizon. Radio technicians completely rag on how bad Sprint is.
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Care to elaborate on what makes Verizons' radio technology so much better than Sprints'? Why do you think AWS is going to be great? If it's any indication from T-Mobile, AWS has absolutely terrible building penetration in metro areas. I don't deny that Verizon has a decent network, I used to use them for my carrier. When they started the tiered data plans and only letting you grandfather unlimited plans by paying for the FULL price of a phone, they started feeling too anti-consumer to me so I left. Having to worry about how much data I use in 2013 is awfully draconian.
We get that Sprints' legacy network is old, slow, and overloaded. Network Vision is replacing EVERY site with new hardware and backhaul. Even 1x only sites will get the full Network Vision treatment(800Mhz CDMA/LTE and 1900Mhz CDMA/LTE). With that said, I've NEVER had one issue with voice coverage with Sprint, only slow data in metro areas. /anecdote
With 800Mhz 1xAdvance/LTE on the horizon, Sprint will be even better.
I've been with Sprint for a while... I 1/2 thought about changing to Verizon this year when my contract was up (I HATE AT&T so I won't switch to them) but honestly it wasn't worth it for me. I have unlimited data, my coverage has been very good. Yes I only have 3g, but for what I use my phone for most of the time, it's fine (I don't surf the web much on my phone or watch Youtube, so...). They are also in the process of putting 4g in my area, although it will probably be a while before it is complete. I also get a discount though work with Sprint so it would cost me a lot more to go to Verizon. Every time I have had to call Sprint Customer Service they have been very helpful (which is only a few times).
In the end, it just wasn't worth it for me to switch.
You'll lose unlimited there customer service sucks there phones are so bloated and have locked bootloaders your Better off going with tmobile it is about the same price as sprint and there hspa+ network is as fast or faster than Lte and it is all ready nation wide.
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Same thing happend to me so I left vzw.
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It all depends on your area to what carrier to go with. That's why they have a 14 day period to cancel service. Ask friends and family about different providers and check out the sensorly app in the Play store for real coverage.
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It all depends on your area to what carrier to go with. That's why they have a 14 day period to cancel service. Ask friends and family about different providers and check out the sensorly app in the Play store for real coverage.
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Unfortunately if you're using an EVO lte the coverage map means nothing because I rarely get 4g where the map says I should have 2 bars. Even with airplane mode toggle I still can't pick it up. I usually use my wife's turd viper to check and almost always she has it. When I do have lte my wife's viper still gets better speeds. That's probably my main reason for getting s4 over the one because it's supposed to have the same problems. That's probably the biggest plus for the plastic over aluminum.
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With Verizon, you'll likely experience slower updates and a couple extra hoops to flash custom ROMs.
If Verizon didn't screw me over in the past, then I'd probably give them a chance again since in my area, they offer the best coverage for data.
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OMG, this & you can say bye bye to your unlimited plan, locked bootloader, terrible customer service. Verizon is just a big headache. They gave me horrible nightmares.
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Verizon is light years ahead of Sprint in every aspect of radio technology. Verizon's S4 is the first phone compatible with their AWS network. Sprint is a freaking joke compared to Verizon. Radio technicians completely rag on how bad Sprint is.
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To be fair, going by history, they'll probably push the AWS software enable update to their S4 about 9 months after the AWS launch and have a 500Mb data cap.
Currently (and will PROBABLY stay a Sprint customer), however, as for 800MHz LTE, as far as I know, there's no current phones that will be able to take advantage of that once it becomes available (unless Sprint is planning something similar for the S4 and they just haven't advertised it yet). 800MHz for voice will work for virtually everyone... but no phone out there right now is going to see an improvement data-wise from that spectrum. Pretty sure they announced at CTIA that only the new phones coming later this year will be able to take advantage of it.
I personally moved away from Sprint even with having LTE coverage and discover the world of MVNO and haven't regretted it one bit.
I've always thought prepaid service was for those with bad credit but oh boy was I wrong, times have changed.
Now I look at those who are under contracts and over paying for service as suckers.
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Currently (and will PROBABLY stay a Sprint customer), however, as for 800MHz LTE, as far as I know, there's no current phones that will be able to take advantage of that once it becomes available (unless Sprint is planning something similar for the S4 and they just haven't advertised it yet). 800MHz for voice will work for virtually everyone... but no phone out there right now is going to see an improvement data-wise from that spectrum. Pretty sure they announced at CTIA that only the new phones coming later this year will be able to take advantage of it.
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Correct, there are currently no Sprint 800Mhz LTE phones available. The current S4 cannot do LTE on 800.
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I personally moved away from Sprint even with having LTE coverage and discover the world of MVNO and haven't regretted it one bit.
I've always thought prepaid service was for those with bad credit but oh boy was I wrong, times have changed.
Now I look at those who are under contracts and over paying for service as suckers.
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Do you get cross carrier roaming on Sprint MVNOs?
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Do you get cross carrier roaming on Sprint MVNOs?
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Cross carrier roaming is allowed between AT&T and T Mobile if you choose a GMS phone.
From what I heard Verizon and Sprint allows cross carrier roaming through Straight Talk. If you choose to use a CDMA phone.
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Correct, there are currently no Sprint 800Mhz LTE phones available. The current S4 cannot do LTE on 800.
Do you get cross carrier roaming on Sprint MVNOs?
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ting lets calls/text on roaming but not data
but at 36 bucks a month for any sprint device you already have for what compares to the 30 dollar tmo plan
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Cross carrier roaming is allowed between AT&T and T Mobile if you choose a GMS phone.
From what I heard Verizon and Sprint allows cross carrier roaming through Straight Talk. If you choose to use a CDMA phone.
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ting lets calls/text on roaming but not data
but at 36 bucks a month for any sprint device you already have for what compares to the 30 dollar tmo plan
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Good to know!
Funny because I just left Verizon for Sprint. The data speeds are unbelievable but there too expensive. I also have a 27% discount through my employer with Sprint, so that is a plus. I gotta admit I'm loving this unlimited data thing.
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I switched from AT&T to sprint. Unlimited data is cool, but unfortunately it is SO SLOW in the areas I travel to it is pointless. And that is even in some of sprints LTE areas.
And the voice coverage sucks in the areas I go to for business too.
Sprint has great plans, and if you have good coverage they are hard to beat. Problem is that their voice and data network coverage is crap compared to Verizon or AT&T...
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http://mobile.theverge.com/2013/9/2...-potential-sprint-merger-the-logical-ultimate
Interesting idea. I personally favor more competition, not less. But a merger like this with the direction both T-Mobile and sprint has been going, this could really benefit us in the long run
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I wonder if instead of a merger it would be an acquisition on Softbanks part. They definitely have the cash to do it and that would make logical sense.
No! We need more players, not fewer! Sprint will have enough capital to become competitive in the next three years.
Please, the odds of the SEC ever allowing any of the big four to merge are practically 0.
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I'm game as long they switch to gsm
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I wonder if instead of a merger it would be an acquisition on Softbanks part. They definitely have the cash to do it and that would make logical sense.
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I read an article starting that soft bank had to borrow a lot of the money just to make the acquisition.
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No! We need more players, not fewer! Sprint will have enough capital to become competitive in the next three years.
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Where did you get that information? Because if that is true, it would make a lot of sense for T-Mobile to hitch it's wagon to Sprint. If the FTC would even allow it.
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Sprint has enough issues of their own at this point, and they have the failed Nextel merger still in many of the executives memories. It may happen, but I don't think it'll have any legitimate consideration till 5-7 years from now, likely when 5G networks come around and LTE Advance has matured.
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When the T-mobile/AT&T deal fell through, the wording from the FCC was something to the effect of that if they allowed any less than 4 major, nationwide carriers, they would be crossing a threshold into a duopoly/oligopoly type of deal, and that having 4 carriers was a threshold they were not willing to cross.
Therefore, I don't think that this will happen, both because of the effort that would be needed to make the networks compatible (completely dismantling one network, save maybe LTE assets and refarming spectrum for one or the other basically) as well as the legal and regulatory issues.
Also, more competition is almost always best.
Rumors are rumors, people honestly exaggerate things that turn out to be nothing.
Remember when Dish was going to buy Sprint? Exactly.
A few random thoughts from someone who has worked for carriers for 20 years and seen all the mergers first hand on the AT&T side and is now with Sprint...
1) FCC/Justice would probably only consider further consolidation of the wireless sector on a big scale if it was a Sprint/TMO merger.
2) With Softbank behind Sprint such a deal would be possible. I recall last week a news article about Japanese government investing a few $billion more in Softbank (sorry no link but read it somewhere). Could this be why, perhaps.
3) TMO needs to do a deal more than Sprint needs to do a deal. Reason being is spectrum. As the demand for more bandwidth increases the ability to manage that demand will come down to who has the most spectrum to cram packets of data through. Of all the US carriers who is best positioned with the most spectrum of any carrier, Sprint. Who among the four is in the weakest position, TMO.
4) The uncarrier looks attractive to consumers at the moment because of the offers on phones, data plans, etc. The problem is that the long term health of the company doesn't look good because they don't have the spectrum resources to manage the data needs as we get to 2015 and beyond. This means slower speeds, more blocking, etc.
5) Sprint would likely be doing simply what AT&T tried to do when they made a play to buy TMO a couple years ago. Buy a customer base. Simply put buy the customers so you're bigger and closer to the top two. However I really don't think they need to do this.
6) Someone mentioned GSM. Sprint won't change their network to GSM, if a merger were to happen they'd most likely be required to continue operating TMOs GSM network until 2016ish but by that time all the major players will be using VoLTE so there would be no need for the traditional GSM or CDMA networks as they exist today.
Lastly my opinion is that while Sprint could do this deal I really don't think they should. I think a much more likely scenario would be to buy smaller carriers like US Cellular among others because TMO has too much bureaucracy and would require massive job cuts to make TMO fit into the Sprint model and that would be bad press that Sprint wouldn't want to go through nor get distracted by.
In the end buy smaller players that fit easily into your model, stay the course on building a better and bigger network, and then leverage the massive spectrum holdings you have into a customer friendly model that gives you a network equal in size to the top two but better because you have more spectrum to operate with giving you the ability to move data faster than your competitors. Consolidation will have to happen eventually and while consumer advocates are generally against it there is no way around it without completely reworking wireless spectrum and the FCC can't/won't do that so as the thirst for data increases the need for spectrum will as well and small players just won't be able to survive so we'll likely end up with two or three carriers eventually...
Verizon and AT&T need TMO to survive so that there are four players in the market and both of them can continue to buy up small fish to correct their spectrum deficiencies. If TMO gets bought or dies out (a more likely scenario) then VZN/ATT will be stuck, they have no path to grow, they have no merger path, they have huge bureaucracies choking them making overhead high and they start bleeding customers....
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If that happened, our phone can use T-mobile sim and work, nice.
I hope this does happen. Tmo's LTE Band 4 is pretty fast. I hit 30-50MBps here in Socal on my Nexus 4. I can barely get 15mbs on Sprint with my One. So i guess Band 4 is definitely better here in Socal
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I hope this does happen. Tmo's LTE Band 4 is pretty fast. I hit 30-50MBps here in Socal on my Nexus 4. I can barely get 15mbs on Sprint with my One. So i guess Band 4 is definitely better here in Socal
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Where are you in Socal? I'm in north OC and any time I connect to LTE I'm still pulling in kilobytes at a time or straight up getting connection errors.
I'm starting to think it's my ROM, but I'm praying it's not.
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Where are you in Socal? I'm in north OC and any time I connect to LTE I'm still pulling in kilobytes at a time or straight up getting connection errors.
I'm starting to think it's my ROM, but I'm praying it's not.
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I had good lte a few weeks ago in La Verne but now the tower is all wack. No 3g or lte at all anymore, worthless
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1) FCC/Justice would probably only consider further consolidation of the wireless sector on a big scale if it was a Sprint/TMO merger.
2) With Softbank behind Sprint such a deal would be possible. I recall last week a news article about Japanese government investing a few $billion more in Softbank (sorry no link but read it somewhere). Could this be why, perhaps.
Lastly my opinion is that while Sprint could do this deal I really don't think they should. I think a much more likely scenario would be to buy smaller carriers like US Cellular among others because TMO has too much bureaucracy and would require massive job cuts to make TMO fit into the Sprint model and that would be bad press that Sprint wouldn't want to go through nor get distracted by.
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Sprint has purchased US Cellular.
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Sprint has purchased US Cellular.
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Actually they haven't...
They have purchased some US Cellular assets in some parts of country but not the whole company.
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I figured I'd post this here
http://pocketnow.com/2014/06/07/softbank-usa
As John Legere, the future CEO of Softbank USA has said, Uncarrier is here to stay!
I hope this means that I get Tri-Band on my Nexus 5!
-A T-Mobile Customer.
I have no problem with this even though my Sero plan will probably be going away as long as Dan Hesse gets canned and John Legere takes control with the TMO way of doing business.
this sounds awesome
Not a big fan of the name. SoftBank USA sounds more of a bank name than a carrier name.
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Not a big fan of the name. SoftBank USA sounds more of a bank name than a carrier name.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SoftBank
SoftBank is a Japanese telecommunications company who owns Sprint and soon T-Mobile.
I hope they keep unlimited data.
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Hope they merge to a all GSM network, instead of a hodgepodge of all the different tech used by Sprint and T-Mo.
Wouldn't the logical and smart name for the company be SprinT-Mobile?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SoftBank
SoftBank is a Japanese telecommunications company who owns Sprint and soon T-Mobile.
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I'm aware of what soft bank is.. I was saying that I'm not the biggest fan of the name because it sounds like a bank more than a carrier name.
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Seriously, what does this mean for us N5 users? With the addition of Sprint Spark, the N5 can connect to literally EVERY band both companies have, 3G, HSPA+, T-Mo LTE, Sprint Band 25/26/41 LTE, etc...Will SoftBank issue new SIMs to utilize both networks? They might consolidate into GSM, but Sprint Spark is significantly more advanced then HSPA+/T-Mo LTE, and I think that they'd want to utilize that...Either way, should be interesting...
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Seriously, what does this mean for us N5 users? With the addition of Sprint Spark, the N5 can connect to literally EVERY band both companies have, 3G, HSPA+, T-Mo LTE, Sprint Band 25/26/41 LTE, etc...Will SoftBank issue new SIMs to utilize both networks? They might consolidate into GSM, but Sprint Spark is significantly more advanced then HSPA+/T-Mo LTE, and I think that they'd want to utilize that...Either way, should be interesting...
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T-Mobile also has 20x20 LTE which is pretty fast. They're most likely going to go to VoLTE route.
in the end i dont really see a down side to any of this. just really hope they dont do away with unlimited data.
May the Mobile Data Gods be with us!
If you don't see a downside to this, you have never been on Sprint (lucky you). The absolute worst network has been hemorrhaging customers for quite a while for a reason, me as one of them. I am glad to see the rumor mill is for T-Mobile CEO to take the lead job, but I see great potential for my wonderful T-Mobile to be harmed mightily. Lets hope for the best
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If you don't see a downside to this, you have never been on Sprint (lucky you). The absolute worst network has been hemorrhaging customers for quite a while for a reason, me as one of them. I am glad to see the rumor mill is for T-Mobile CEO to take the lead job, but I see great potential for my wonderful T-Mobile to be harmed mightily. Lets hope for the best
StevieJ
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Speak for yourself. T-Mobile has 2G coverage in my town. Sprint(which I'm on) has 3G, and in the city next to me, Sprint has blanketed LTE, while T-Mobile has spotty HSPA and barely any LTE. In the sticks, Sprint is almost always better than T-Mobile, hell AT&T has more deadspots around my area than Sprint...
I'll be ok with the merger, as long as its like T-mobile taking sprint over, and not the other way around. Get rid of all sprint higher ups, and keep t-mobiles, because obviously the current t-mobile is much more capable then sprint has ever been since the sprint/nextel merger.
And i better get to keep my $30 100 min, unlim text 5gig data plan.
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As long as they keep unlimited data and the UP phone upgrade program, I'm all for it.
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Hope they merge to a all GSM network, instead of a hodgepodge of all the different tech used by Sprint and T-Mo.
Wouldn't the logical and smart name for the company be SprinT-Mobile?
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The most likely course of action is that the networks will remain as is and the combined company will transition to all LTE and eventually shut off the CDMA/GSM/UMTS networks completely.
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Considering they will most likely have 800, PCS, AWS and the spark band; they could take one of those bands and use a third for voLTE.
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Speak for yourself. T-Mobile has 2G coverage in my town. Sprint(which I'm on) has 3G, and in the city next to me, Sprint has blanketed LTE, while T-Mobile has spotty HSPA and barely any LTE. In the sticks, Sprint is almost always better than T-Mobile, hell AT&T has more deadspots around my area than Sprint...
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Where I'm located (Houston Tx) T-Mobile sucks. I work w/ some guys who have great flagship devices and they have Tmo and are always getting dropped calls and data is spotty as all get out.
I'm in Biloxi Mississippi now and I have LTE about 70% of the time on Sprint. I have it 90% of the time in Houston and have for a while now. They have come a looooooooooong way. Guess it just depends on where you are located.
I hope the deal goes through. [emoji41]
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If this is seriously the final verdict of the merger...I have to say I'm terrified and excited all at the same time. Sprint is right next to Verizon with me..and I hate both of them, no opinion of AT&T though.
But I'm excited because as long as Legere is still CEO I don't think us original T-Mobile clients have to worry too much (been with T-Mobile since 1999)..and hopefully we end up on a grandfathered plan so we don't lose features or have an insane price hike... Because the most important thing to me on my plan is unlimited data.
Edit : this makes sense now and it goes along with Uncarrier 5.0... Legere wanted to increase revenue...so he got did away with 15% discounts with programs like Triple A (AAA) and made it so only government and military workers are the only ones capable of getting a discount)
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Although I have been a very satisfied T-Mobile customer for the last 7 years, it appears and tech support confirms that the tower that I connect to at home is oversold and instead of the 16 to 20 megs down that I used to get, I am now getting 1.5 meg on a good day and it goes down to .3 meg on bad days. I can't live with that as I have little other access to Internet bandwidth in my neighborhood and it gets worse every week. I use the Internet for business. The only fix appears to be another tower. Not a quick fix.
So, If I make the switch, what happens? Although it may work out better in switching if I give Sprint my existing Nexus 6, I will be using a Nexus 6 with them. I read comments that I will lose simultaneous voice and data use because of their Spark network. Is that true? What LTE speeds should I expect? I also understand that I will lose tethering if I opt for the unlimited plan (I am actually leaning toward the 20 GB family plan which I understand that I can share with my data enabled devices.) I don't read any nice things about Sprint.
Any thoughts you can share would be very helpful. Thanks in advance.
Dont do it bro, sprint is horrible. Tell me if you find 25 people you know that love sprint more than T-Mobile. Sprint is a rotting company hiding behind sales gimmicks and ideas from T-Mobile. T-Mobile is still rolling out this year with Band 12 700Mhz and its LTE footprint roll out replacing old edge areas. More people complain about sprint way more than T-Mobile. So if you dont like T-Mobile, you might as well get shartrizon or AT$$$T. I would recommend calling T-Mobile to send a tech. to your area to fix the issue or report it for fixing.
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Although I have been a very satisfied T-Mobile customer for the last 7 years, it appears and tech support confirms that the tower that I connect to at home is oversold and instead of the 16 to 20 megs down that I used to get, I am now getting 1.5 meg on a good day and it goes down to .3 meg on bad days. I can't live with that as I have little other access to Internet bandwidth in my neighborhood and it gets worse every week. I use the Internet for business. The only fix appears to be another tower. Not a quick fix.
So, If I make the switch, what happens? Although it may work out better in switching if I give Sprint my existing Nexus 6, I will be using a Nexus 6 with them. I read comments that I will lose simultaneous voice and data use because of their Spark network. Is that true? What LTE speeds should I expect? I also understand that I will lose tethering if I opt for the unlimited plan (I am actually leaning toward the 20 GB family plan which I understand that I can share with my data enabled devices.) I don't read any nice things about Sprint.
Any thoughts you can share would be very helpful. Thanks in advance.
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Is Cricket Wireless an option? They are essentially AT&T with throttled LTE speeds of 8Mpbs down, no throttle up. I am paying $55/month for 20GB of LTE data. They no longer offer that plan, but have the same plan at 10GB of data.
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Dont do it bro, sprint is horrible. Tell me if you find 25 people you know that love sprint more than T-Mobile. Sprint is a rotting company hiding behind sales gimmicks and ideas from T-Mobile. T-Mobile is still rolling out this year with Band 12 700Mhz and its LTE footprint roll out replacing old edge areas. More people complain about sprint way more than T-Mobile. So if you dont like T-Mobile, you might as well get shartrizon or AT$$$T. I would recommend calling T-Mobile to send a tech. to your area to fix the issue or report it for fixing.
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See, that is my feeling as well. I can't find anyone that has nice things to say. As to AT&T or Verizon, wow does the cost jump. And to the point about getting a tech out there, been there, done that. T-Mobile is very aware of the problem. They have bee running tests for a while. Sadly, it is oversold. Not broken. Don't have too many options. There were some numbers from Verizon that weren't horrible, but I don't think Verizon pays ETFs.
Someone is selling a CricketWireless 20GB LTE plan on Howard Forums...I have had ZERO issues using Cricket with my Nexus 6...in fact I am loving it.
I have looked at Cricket. The problem is that I do exceed 10 GB in some months and there is no provision for tethering or tablets that I could see. One of those options would be necessary.
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See, that is my feeling as well. I can't find anyone that has nice things to say. As to AT&T or Verizon, wow does the cost jump. And to the point about getting a tech out there, been there, done that. T-Mobile is very aware of the problem. They have bee running tests for a while. Sadly, it is oversold. Not broken. Don't have too many options. There were some numbers from Verizon that weren't horrible, but I don't think Verizon pays ETFs.
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I had verizon wireless for 10 years and left them over a year ago for T-Mobile. I didn't regret anything. I didn't switch because of price because I could afford verizon, but their plans and phones suck and they are scam artists trying to rape every penny from you just like John Legere quoted. In my area and even in rural places in georgia I get pretty decent excellent coverage and service. At home I usually get from 80-112mbps down and 7-15mbps up. Verizon couldn't match that and hell, everyone I know that has sprint hate it and are jumping to T-Mobile because they get less than 1mbps and call quality sounds like pure ****. T-Mobile has nationwide VoLTE and WiFi calling and texting and the "Uncarrier" exclusives. I have unlimited data so I use it as my home internet since I have root for tethering unlimited data and its way faster than charters fastest speeds they deliver to my house lol. Sprint is also bad just like verizon because remember they are money hungry companies and they will lock u in contracts and can only use their cdma devices or select unlocked devices like the nexus 6. I heard verizon doesn't recognize the unlocked nexus 6, idk if that is true or not.
Link? And what about tablets or tethering? I need that data sometimes when I am out in the field and I have to remote into something. Yes, even my 6 inch screen is a little small. I don't see any plans for tablets.
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I have looked at Cricket. The problem is that I do exceed 10 GB in some months and there is no provision for tethering or tablets that I could see. One of those options would be necessary.
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Although tethering is not supported, it does work.
There also would be no issue popping in a Cricket SIM in a Nexus 9. I've considered selling my WiFi N9 and getting a LTE N9 with a 20GB Cricket SIM.
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Is Cricket Wireless an option? They are essentially AT&T with throttled LTE speeds of 8Mpbs down, no throttle up. I am paying $55/month for 20GB of LTE data. They no longer offer that plan, but have the same plan at 10GB of data.
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Someone is selling a CricketWireless 20GB LTE plan on Howard Forums...I have had ZERO issues using Cricket with my Nexus 6...in fact I am loving it.
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From what I could see in the Howard forums, the 20 GB promo expired in April. Thanks though.
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From what I could see in the Howard forums, the 20 GB promo expired in April.
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It did expire, someone is selling their account.
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Link? And what about tablets or tethering? I need that data sometimes when I am out in the field and I have to remote into something. Yes, even my 6 inch screen is a little small. I don't see any plans for tablets.
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There is an app on the playstore if you have root called "WiFi Tether Router" which will work or if you want unlimited native tethering.
#1 in SQL lite go to /data/data/com.android.providers.settings/settings.db/global
#2 add " tether_dun required " and set the value to 0
#3 in your APN settings add " dun " to APN type and set your APN to IPv4 only since IPv6 doesnt support this.
Either use OpenSignal app or their site and zoom in on your neighborhood. They have a list of carriers with their average upload and download speed.
Personally I wouldn't use Sprint as OpenSignal and Rootmetrics has shown it is the slowest network across the country.
Get a AT&T GoPhone sim and try them out for a month. Walmart sells the sims. They now have rollover data on prepaid just like T-mobile. Plus they're not throttled like Cricket.
I wait for Callingmart to announce their monthly 10% off GoPhone refills on Twitter. Then refill each month saving me $6.
Just my 2ยข but I have been with Sprint for going on 8 years. Their service is great in my area (now) and their customer service has always been outstanding. While I do agree that they don't have the best coverage, they have come a long way in my time with them. You can get unlimited, TRULY unlimited data with them for a good price. They offer payment plans on the top devices and as I said, customer service has bent over backwards for me more than once. Choice is yours, OP, just do your homework and choose wisely.
I have no complaints with Sprint. They recently upgraded my area to LTE and its fast. Its really pointless to ask random people on the internet because they more than likely do not live in your state much less your city. Signal strength is the most important aspect of cell phone service and you wont find that answer here. I would find a coverage map and compare the carriers, make sure it is a legitimate coverage map and not advertising. I would also ask people in your area with Sprint so you can compare.
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I have no complaints with Sprint. They recently upgraded my area to LTE and its fast. Its really pointless to ask random people on the internet because they more than likely do not live in your state much less your city. Signal strength is the most important aspect of cell phone service and you wont find that answer here. I would find a coverage map and compare the carriers, make sure it is a legitimate coverage map and not advertising. I would also ask people in your area with Sprint so you can compare.
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To each his own. I have learned a lot from this, coverage map aside (I am in a Spark enabled area of moderate strength, the same as I am for T-Mobile and for that matter, likely AT&T, which tells me little that I didn't already know. It is a topology issue.) My question wasn't about coverage. It was about the experience. I have learned that, unlike T-Mobile, Sprint customer service is out of country, but some have had good experiences with the company. I have also received useful suggestions about alternatives. This has been very useful to me. Sprint could have the strongest signal in my area and still be a company to avoid like the plague.
Free data after you reach your limit, and free music service streaming
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Free data after you reach your limit, and free music service streaming
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Good point. Hadn't thought about those. Thanks.
This morning my Speed Tests were decidedly better. At least 8 and as high as 12 meg. I haven't seen those numbers in months. So, (holding breath), perhaps my last call got something changed. I won't make changes unless I am sure there is no hope for change.
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To each his own. I have learned a lot from this, coverage map aside (I am in a Spark enabled area of moderate strength, the same as I am for T-Mobile and for that matter, likely AT&T, which tells me little that I didn't already know. It is a topology issue.) My question wasn't about coverage. It was about the experience. I have learned that, unlike T-Mobile, Sprint customer service is out of country, but some have had good experiences with the company. I have also received useful suggestions about alternatives. This has been very useful to me. Sprint could have the strongest signal in my area and still be a company to avoid like the plague.
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Other than calling to activate new phones, I have only had to call once in all my years with Sprint and I have no complaints on it. I don't generally need service, I pay my bill and use my phone lol. As far as overseas call centers, that's not entirely true; there is a Sprint call center in my city (along with a T-Mobile call center). To each their own.
I switched from Sprint to Verizon as my family plan 4 years ago, best decision of my life. Sprint will frustrate you beyond belief with their slow data, you won't even be able to load Google. I know you said the big 2 cost too much, so I'd stay with T-Mobile if I were you, avoid Sprint at all costs. I personally love Verizon, have 5 off contract smartphones with them, 15GB shared data, and pay $153+tax a month.