I'm thinking about getting one and just using it as an android tablet.
I wouldn't be surprised if it ran honeycomb quickly with a 1ghz overclock
comdei said:
I'm thinking about getting one and just using it as an android tablet.
I wouldn't be surprised if it ran honeycomb quickly with a 1ghz overclock
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I just got one yesterday and it is nice. Only dislike I have is it gets fingerprints on it very easily. Screen is beautiful and so crisp makes me wanna cry . I got mine OCd to 1.1ghz and I love it
mcp2009 said:
I just got one yesterday and it is nice. Only dislike I have is it gets fingerprints on it very easily. Screen is beautiful and so crisp makes me wanna cry . I got mine OCd to 1.1ghz and I love it
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I just got mine wondering if you could tell me which option you did to root your device and how did you overclock it ?
Thankyou
Patrikc8 said:
I just got mine wondering if you could tell me which option you did to root your device and how did you overclock it ?
Thankyou
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No problem. I used this http://nookdevs.com/NookColor_Rooting to root. And I use this kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=925451. I'm using 1.1ghz eclair and this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=932145
I'm on the same boat as the OP. Can't decide between the Nook and the Viewsonic G tablet. How stable are the 2.2 roms on the Nook? I watch streaming live sports on my Streak and Nexus S a lot so flash is a must have for me.
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Honestly it's pretty bad. Running it off of a SD card is dirt slow for me compared to my Incredible, and lots of people are bricking their nooks trying to run off the emmc.
Plus, we have no hardware video acceleration at all in Froyo. Youtube doesn't work either.
My hopes are hanging on Cyanogenmod 7. If it doesn't come out before my return period is up, I'm afraid I may be returning the nook.
mcp2009 said:
No problem. I used this http://nookdevs.com/NookColor_Rooting to root. And I use this kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=925451. I'm using 1.1ghz eclair and this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=932145
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so the root allows you to install android applications
the kernal allows you to over clock it
what does the rom do?
thank you
computerpro3 said:
Honestly it's pretty bad. Running it off of a SD card is dirt slow for me compared to my Incredible, and lots of people are bricking their nooks trying to run off the emmc.
Plus, we have no hardware video acceleration at all in Froyo. Youtube doesn't work either.
My hopes are hanging on Cyanogenmod 7. If it doesn't come out before my return period is up, I'm afraid I may be returning the nook.
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on a class 6 sd card, i scored a 1560 quadrant on sd booted nookie. Thats not overclocked either. My best on stock rooted eclair with 1.1 ghz was just under 1200. Thats a big difference. Flash and youtube worked. Maybe you are trying to run it off a class 2.
It works fine.
cabbieBot said:
on a class 6 sd card, i scored a 1560 quadrant on sd booted nookie. Thats not overclocked either. My best on stock rooted eclair with 1.1 ghz was just under 1200. Thats a big difference. Flash and youtube worked. Maybe you are trying to run it off a class 2.
It works fine.
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Quadrant score has nothing whatsoever to do with the inherent latency or slow speeds of even a class 10 sd card compared to internal flash. Its flat out sluggish in comparison.
I haven't ran froyo on anything better than a class 4 sd card. I wound up back on 2.1 on internal memory. It was just a little too laggy. I'm currently working on getting it on emmc. I was shopping around in the $300 range right before christmas and the nook was the best option for an android toy. Prices may have changed on others since then, but the nook hardware is really nice besides lack of bluetooth. Price vs what you get I don't think it can be beat.
ryan562 said:
I'm on the same boat as the OP. Can't decide between the Nook and the Viewsonic G tablet. How stable are the 2.2 roms on the Nook? I watch streaming live sports on my Streak and Nexus S a lot so flash is a must have for me.
Sent from my Dell Streak using XDA App
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it really depends, it runs fast off the emmc (internal memory, if you didnt know) or a class 6 or class 10 micro sd, but if all you have is a class 2 or 4 its near impossible to use...
if you wait a couple of weeks the CM7 rom (android 2.3) should be completed... i cant wait!
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Quadrant score has nothing whatsoever to do with the inherent latency or slow speeds of even a class 10 sd card compared to internal flash. Its flat out sluggish in comparison.
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a huge part of quadrant is the i/o of storage, so wouldnt a faster card result in a higher score (and therefore faster device?)
mckooter said:
a huge part of quadrant is the i/o of storage, so wouldnt a faster card result in a higher score (and therefore faster device?)
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oooohhh, shutdown computerpro...
but seriously, mckooter's arguement makes sense
mckooter said:
a huge part of quadrant is the i/o of storage, so wouldnt a faster card result in a higher score (and therefore faster device?)
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Yes, but the increase in score between a class 2 and class 10 card is miniscule compared to even overclocking just 100mhz. Try it yourself. The difference in speed from a class 2 card to a class 10 card is a few mb/s write speed. The difference in write speed between a class 10 card and the internal flash is likely an order of magnitude or so. Of course we can't know for sure until we can benchmark the emmc, but this would be consistent with the performance of other devices.
Regardless, froyo on a SD card is not as fast as I need it to be, period. I hate using a device when I "outrun" it - I don't like waiting around for softkeys to pop up, etc.
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Having a screen related issue with my NC, and I just wanted to confirm before shipping it back that all I have to do to return it to the stock 2.1 install + standard recovery is do the 6x interrupt.
Are there any steps I am missing?
I'm running the 1.0.1 NC interface, 1.1Ghz OC, and Zeam interface over it. It's very fast and feels native. I see no reason to boot from an SD card when I have the "android interface" essentially anyways.
However I cannot play any video other than H.264 SD. (and no hulu/netflix yet of course)
I have been running Nookie Froyo on the EMMC for a while now and have been getting Quadrant scores in the 1400-1500s every time. Just follow all the info on http://nookdevs.com/NookColor:_Nookie_Froyo_Tips and you will be fine.
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I'm running the 1.0.1 NC interface, 1.1Ghz OC, and Zeam interface over it. It's very fast and feels native. I see no reason to boot from an SD card when I have the "android interface" essentially anyways.
However I cannot play any video other than H.264 SD. (and no hulu/netflix yet of course)
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You know in the last 24 hours I really focused on this, as opposed to doing the whole Froyo thing.
Wow. Now I really enjoy this thing. Lack of flash is a big issue, but honestly using button savior instead of softkeys and getting updated to 1.1 have made this a fantastic daily use tablet.
I'm running stock, 1.1.0, Zeam, Dolphin HD and loving it. No Flash, but that doesn't really bother me. Can handle movies, YouTube, Angry Birds, web browsing, every eReader format and service, and my favorite news reader - Pulse. Started using Calibre and Aldiko for a ton of additional news sources for train reading. Got a ton of other apps as well, and in my opinion there is no noticeable lag in anything I do on the Nook, but I mostly love it as a hugely capable reader. Great device!
Sent from my rockin' rooted Nook Color using XDA App
Yeah, nice. I did have to go to Dolphin 4.2 to get pinch-zoom to work. The latest (4.3) doesn't work.
Today I tried that bootable honeycomb. It's slick looking.. but not fast yet. With 1.1Ghz and 1.0.1, I'm hitting about 1200 on the bench mark. Fine.. I just really wish we had video acceleration for video OTHER than h.264. I don't "read", but bought this to play with. If i'm out and about, i use my iphone to tether the NC.
at what point does the overclocking actually start detracting from the battery?
I know that the nook uses an underpowered 800mhz processor which -when overclocked- provides us with better battery life. we can overclock to 1.0ghz... 1.1ghz... heck I've even seen 1.6ghz overclocks on the nook color.
so what do you all think? what's the best mashup of overclocking and batterylife?
eungholee2 said:
at what point does the overclocking actually start detracting from the battery?
I know that the nook uses an underpowered 800mhz processor which -when overclocked- provides us with better battery life. we can overclock to 1.0ghz... 1.1ghz... heck I've even seen 1.6ghz overclocks on the nook color.
so what do you all think? what's the best mashup of overclocking and batterylife?
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1.1 or 1.2 seems to be about the standard. If you search around you will find quite a few posts about lowering the voltage. I didn't use my Nook for a while, and could still have over 10 days in sleep.
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I'm playing with my HD+ under CM10 and noticed that system->"About tablet" says that only 769MB of memory is visible. Anywhere in specs for HD+ is said to have 1GB of RAM. Is it an issue or it's used for RAM disk/GPU VRAM/etc ?
The RAM question is critical for me because it seems that web browsers tend to hang/autoclose with few tabs opened.
Dmitriusan said:
Hi all!
I'm playing with my HD+ under CM10 and noticed that system->"About tablet" says that only 769MB of memory is visible. Anywhere in specs for HD+ is said to have 1GB of RAM. Is it an issue or it's used for RAM disk/GPU VRAM/etc ?
The RAM question is critical for me because it seems that web browsers tend to hang/autoclose with few tabs opened.
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That is the normal amount. The rest is reserved for internal Android operating system use.
Sent with XDA Premium from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on SD
Someone needs to try to shrink the OS RAM requirement. My 4.1 JB has far more RAM available on the phone.
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That is the normal amount. The rest is reserved for internal Android operating system use.
Sent with XDA Premium from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on SD
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mpeg3s said:
Someone needs to try to shrink the OS RAM requirement. My 4.1 JB has far more RAM available on the phone.
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But your phone does not have a 1920x1280 display. Where would you put the video frame buffer if you reduced the amount reserved for hardware use?
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
I noticed this as well. It's normal, though Barnes & Nobles would claim it uses the full 1 ghz. I looks like it does as a normal Nook, but once rooted, you see how it really functions.
As for a freeing up RAM, I find that it's not as easy as it looks - I've yet to find any kernel, function, or command line that specifically refers to system usage. I could be wrong (probably am, I hope), but I don't think you can change that.
The kernel is what allocates how ram is divided between hardware and software. And, since CM uses basically the same kernel as stock, that means stock also only has 768MB available.
Does anyone really feel having 768MB is a problem?
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Just as the title suggests - I'm wondering how to OC my Nook HD+. I'm well aware of thermal issues and will fix them if they arise; my problem is I can't seem to find what kernel I need, or software I can use, to OC properly.
Any tips?
EndemicTruth said:
Just as the title suggests - I'm wondering how to OC my Nook HD+. I'm well aware of thermal issues and will fix them if they arise; my problem is I can't seem to find what kernel I need, or software I can use, to OC properly.
Any tips?
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As far as I know 1.5Ghz is the frequency we are stuck at right now. There is a kernel in development however it's a long way from being a daily.
That said the Nook HD and Nook HD+ both have "similar" hardware so I'm sure some developers probably already have repositories set up for the sources.
EndemicTruth said:
Just as the title suggests - I'm wondering how to OC my Nook HD+. I'm well aware of thermal issues and will fix them if they arise; my problem is I can't seem to find what kernel I need, or software I can use, to OC properly.
Any tips?
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I did some testing (for gpu OC) and I think it's not really worth it, as the impact in real life is pretty minuscule.
I recently tried installing Madden NFL Mobile on my HD+ and the game is running in slow motion. I understand that the HD+ is not the most powerful of tablets (especially considering the display) and that this could just be a hardware limitation. I've tried on both CM 10.2 and CM 11 with the same results.
Cool Tool is showing a lower CPU frequency and ~40% cpu usage, so it seems at the very least the CPU isn't the limiting factor. I couldn't find any GPU information (and I'll admit I'm rather ignorant on the GPU front for tablets in general).
Is there anything I could try to improve performance?
Thank you!
Try SlimKat rom with F2FS.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nook-hd/development/rom-dev-slimkat-4-4-4-build-8-1-t2894247
I think it's fastest rom.
It scored 21000 with Antutu.
And try this tool.
GLTools:-Chainfire 3D Alternative for 4.1+
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2604723