So I managed to overclock the phone to the max 2,1ghz . But the things that scare are the following: I make it 1,7ghz or 1,6ghz , I do antutu benchmark and I get 4500+ points . Then at 2,1ghz I do the benchmark again but I get 2500 . How is that possible and what is the explanation ? I tried making both min and max freq at 2,1 . I tried with min at 100,200,400 but the same happens. 1,7 is pretty good but 2,1 is lame. I have to tweak the governors ? I tried multiple combinations too, Ondemand,Interactive most that are in devil kernel + Sio,CFQ,Zen. If someone can tell me how is it possible for 2,1 ghz to be slower than 1,6/7 i will be very thankful.
The processor is more prone to errors at higher clock speed? Error correction skews things down? Mebbe. . .
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billyjed said:
The processor is more prone to errors at higher clock speed? Error correction skews things down? Mebbe. . .
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A bit more explanation would be appreciated.
Im goiing to sound old here...
Its like having an old LP Record you know, one of those black round Disc shaped things that was used to play music.
They had little grooves on them that if you played it fast enough they would skip over the lines and the songs would jump
Thats like the OC the higher you go the system cant handle it... also the battery will drain faster and will heat up hotter
Hope that helps
EwOkie said:
Im goiing to sound old here...
Its like having an old LP Record you know, one of those black round Disc shaped things that was used to play music.
They had little grooves on them that if you played it fast enough they would skip over the lines and the songs would jump
Thats like the OC the higher you go the system cant handle it... also the battery will drain faster and will heat up hotter
Hope that helps
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thanks for explanation
juz like skipping ur breakfast before competing in 7.5km marathon! Ur not gonna feel light n run faster here, u ll be worst! and most worst could happen when u could die pushing ur limit here!
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So I managed to overclock the phone to the max 2,1ghz . But the things that scare are the following: I make it 1,7ghz or 1,6ghz , I do antutu benchmark and I get 4500+ points . Then at 2,1ghz I do the benchmark again but I get 2500 . How is that possible and what is the explanation ? I tried making both min and max freq at 2,1 . I tried with min at 100,200,400 but the same happens. 1,7 is pretty good but 2,1 is lame. I have to tweak the governors ? I tried multiple combinations too, Ondemand,Interactive most that are in devil kernel + Sio,CFQ,Zen. If someone can tell me how is it possible for 2,1 ghz to be slower than 1,6/7 i will be very thankful.
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also check the 2d and 3d score... the higher you go with overclock, the lower will be your 2d and 3d score, maybe because of the higher voltage for the cpu the gpu doesn't have enough power to work properly
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also check the 2d and 3d score... the higher you go with overclock, the lower will be your 2d and 3d score, maybe because of the higher voltage for the cpu the gpu doesn't have enough power to work properly
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normally, cpu score will increase while other aspect decrease when ur OC as u only OC ur CPU, not RAM or SD speed.
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iiNveRsioN said:
I know you're able to overclock RAM on computers, but is it possible on our phones? I sorta searched for threads relating to it but I didn't see anything. Anyone know if this is possible? I'm running CM 6.1
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If it is possible, there won't be any point since the speed difference will be extremely minimal, if anything.
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If it is possible, there won't be any point since the speed difference will be extremely minimal, if anything.
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Agreed.... no difference really in a phone with the hero's resources
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Actually wen u overclock ur CPU by default ur ram is already overclocked
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laie1472 said:
Actually wen u overclock ur CPU by default ur ram is already overclocked
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That is only if you have the FSB synced. If we were able to adjust the clock multiplier by itself, RAM would not overclock. I'm not sure if the overclock adjusts the multiplier or not.
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That is only if you have the FSB synced. If we were able to adjust the clock multiplier by itself, RAM would not overclock. I'm not sure if the overclock adjusts the multiplier or not.
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Not true only on Intel do u have to adjust the fsb on amd u don't need to-- just raise the multiplier but in any case wen u demand more process power out of your CPU ur ram has to keep up if it can't then you will get reboots over heating and black screens and it might get u a hardware error because most ram can't keep up there for wen u overclock ur CPU ur ram is automatically over clocked after all to overclock ram all you have to do in most cases is increase the voltage now for a big increase u might have to deal with the timing but that's rare
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Not true only on Intel do u have to adjust the fsb on amd u don't need to-- just raise the multiplier but in any case wen u demand more process power out of your CPU ur ram has to keep up if it can't then you will get reboots over heating and black screens and it might get u a hardware error because most ram can't keep up there for wen u overclock ur CPU ur ram is automatically over clocked after all to overclock ram all you have to do in most cases is increase the voltage now for a big increase u might have to deal with the timing but that's rare
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with the terrible experience of an overclocker on a computer of a few years. i guarantee ram doesn't overclock if cpu is overclocked by increasing multiplier, and overclocking on phone is completely different: you can optionally adjust CPU clock and RAM into kernel without regard to FSB or multiplier. and why is overclocking RAM not worth it when we need a faster RAM? I used to overclock on my computer and reduce the RAM bus to the lowest when ram runs at super low speed i wish i had never overclocked it makes my pc look like the turtle moving, focused on overclocking the CPU and I realized everyone was wrong, overclocking RAM improves read and write speed and data transfer but processing speed is since it's mostly CPU you won't see a difference unless you do the same as me. If overclocking RAM doesn't make sense we don't need those amazingly high bus RAMs!
Hi folks,
I was just wondering, what are everyone's speeds? I shall start first I have attached a screenshot of my voltages, speeds, and governor.
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Quick note - i would strongly suggest backing your CPU down to a max of 1200Mhz. For some reason, any speed above that will tank your GPU performance (by as much as half); the additional 100Mhz CPU loss isn't really felt (especially with the GPU gains).
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Quick note - i would strongly suggest backing your CPU down to a max of 1200Mhz. For some reason, any speed above that will tank your GPU performance (by as much as half); the additional 100Mhz CPU loss isn't really felt (especially with the GPU gains).
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Is there anyway to confirm this? How can I measure GPU performance?
I set mine at 1200MHz and didn't bother playing with cpu voltage.
PoisonWolf said:
Is there anyway to confirm this? How can I measure GPU performance?
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It has been well confirmed in severl threads (Cm7 dev and general), but you can easily test yourself with nenamark 1. Set your clocks to 1200, and run the bench; then set your clocks to 1300, run again (and watch your framerate plummet).
Divine_Madcat said:
It has been well confirmed in severl threads (Cm7 dev and general), but you can easily test yourself with nenamark 1. Set your clocks to 1200, and run the bench; then set your clocks to 1300, run again (and watch your framerate plummet).
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I tried your little scenario of dropping down to 1125mhz and running nenamark. I was 14.8 running 1125mhz and at 15.6 at 1300mhz. I am running chainfire plug ins.
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And what do those numbers mean?
14.8 is better or worse compared to 15.6?
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I tried your little scenario of dropping down to 1125mhz and running nenamark. I was 14.8 running 1125mhz and at 15.6 at 1300mhz. I am running chainfire plug ins.
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Odd.. i can get 21 Fps at @1200.. i would have expected the 1125 to be around the same; though the 1300 sounds right on.
I got 16.3 fps using my current setup. Lawl. What part of android uses 3d acceleration anyway?
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I got 16.3 fps using my current setup. Lawl. What part of android uses 3d acceleration anyway?
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UH.. android, not alot, but pretty much any game (or even some web browsers like Opera). Its easy to "lawl", but it actually DOES matter...
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UH.. android, not alot, but pretty much any game (or even some web browsers like Opera). Its easy to "lawl", but it actually DOES matter...
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Good point however I don't play any games that uses 3d. I don't really play any games. Just browsing with dolphin and lots of email.
I will take it down per notch as per your suggestion once I update to a newer version though.
Also, some of the framerate difference may come from you running the 32bit framebuffer kernel, instead of the faster 16bit (but if you don't game alot, you may not really need it anyway).
Scratch that. I just tested it. I got 22.9fps. Lawl. I am now tweaking it again. What are your voltages?
Thanks for the suggestion again. 1200 MHz Max for me.
P.s. how do I check which framerate buffer am I running?
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Good point however I don't play any games that uses 3d. I don't really play any games. Just browsing with dolphin and lots of email.
I will take it down per notch as per your suggestion once I update to a newer version though.
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If u don't play any games, then why to bother for the 3D loss of 1300mhz?
I would prefer to use the extra speed.
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If u don't play any games, then why to bother for the 3D loss of 1300mhz?
I would prefer to use the extra speed.
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Frankly, i am under the personal impression that overall the system is more responsive at 1200, and that is not just the GPU. Something about that speed is the sweet spot.
And really.. only rarely will a system that does web pages and email hit max speed anyway... why not opt for a better all around performance, rather than an immeasurable CPU gain?
I know this could be kind of off topic, but what battery temperatures do you guys get when overclocking? because the other day mine was at 36 Celsius overclocked at 1200, Does anyone knows of a safe temperature range?
Mine hovers around 34 to 36. My hd2 goes up to 43 and that is fine too. Honestly, I would think that as long as it is under 40 you should not worth.
I use 300 min and 1200 max and have the governor set to on demand. No issues with this setting.
300 - .8125
600 - 1.0
800 - 1.1875
1100 - 1.25
1200 - 1.2875
Haven't used it much recently, but about 5% drain for 24 hours in sleep. I need to put it through some heavy use to see how bad I can kill the battery.
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1200 - .8125
1100 - 1.0
800 - 1.1875
600 - 1.25
300 - 1.2875
Haven't used it much recently, but about 5% drain for 24 hours in sleep. I need to put it through some heavy use to see how bad I can kill the battery.
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You probably got the voltages reversed. Not possible to run 300 mhz on 1.2875. Lawl.
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I use 300 min and 1200 max and have the governor set to on demand. No issues with this setting.
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This was my initial setting as well (with the exception of running the max at 1300mhz). However, I realized that it wasn't the max speed that was the issue, I found out that increasing the lower-steppings was key in increasing the overall fluidity of the device as the interactive governor ramped through the steppings.
Just got my Note
Want to overclock it badly...had my previous HD2 running at 1.5 and it never had a problem occasionally it would overheat and auto reboot but not often...
How fast have people gotten it up to and what seems to be the safe zones? I found that at 1.35 on the HD2 wouldnt overheat no matter what you thru at it....
Have we found any sweet spot overclock speeds yet?
i have seen in many post. its 1700Mhz..
Dear TopOfNewYork,
We have two kernels for overclock; FM Kernel v1.6 and AbyssNote Kernel v3.0... I prefer AbyssNote since it has much more features and updated often...
For both kernels, 3 choices of overclock speed 1600,1664 and 1704...
I use 1600 @ 1300mV daily and heat can reach up to 50c while charging and playing demanding games... On normal use it is around 36c. @1300 mV my cpu is stable...
I dont use 1664 and 1704 since there will be more heat and instability...
For me, the best is using stock clock speed undervolted 1400 @ 1175 mV. Phone doesnt get hot and performance is still impressive...
Kind regards,
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that temp speed balance sounds perfect PROTO I used to try to keep my hd2 under 49C what do you think of going with the highest clock speeds and just setting profiles and governors based on temp and battery levels w setcpu?
or will I still experience instability simply by using the higher clocked kernels, I think no but I dont have that much kernel knowledge when it comes to setting the speeds in the kernel itself, i usually leave that up to experienced & trusted chefs
Dear TopOfNewYork,
I dont use profiles since they can cause deep sleep issues( screen off profile i mean )... I overclock with Voltage Control app...
Phone reaches around 50 c while charging and playing demanding games at the same time @1600 Mhz so overclocking to 1600 can be the best choice when not charging and 1400mhz is best for charging... If u use SetCpu app, u can use charging profile and set the clock to 200-1400 Mhz...
I also did 1664 and 1704 with various voltages but got some stability issues so i revert back to 200-1600 as my default...
Here is my voltage settings:
Rom: 4lph4 n3v3r d135 v1.2.2 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424401
Kernel: AbyssNote v3.0 Final http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1362424
100 ( dont use - makes phone wake-up slow )
200 - 825 mV
500 - 825 mV
800 - 925 mV
1000 - 1000 mV
1200 - 1075 mV
1400 - 1175 mV
1600 - 1300 mV
1664 ( dont use - stability issues )
1704 ( dont use - stability issues )
These are my numbers that my cpu can do... Values may vary phone to phone , cpu to cpu so it is better to test and find the best value for your phone... Hope these helps...
Kind Regards,
is that a commadore logo avatar! wow sick havent seen that in ages but i like it
I can remember getting a "sprite" to bounce around on the 64 as a pup wonderful day
anyway
good post proto...really helpful, and thanks for the links definitely going to try your load out sounds like you tested it properly will let you know if I find any interesting tweaks
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is that a commadore logo avatar! wow sick havent seen that in ages but i like it
I can remember getting a "sprite" to bounce around on the 64 as a pup wonderful day
anyway
good post proto...really helpful, and thanks for the links definitely going to try your load out sounds like you tested it properly will let you know if I find any interesting tweaks
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Dear TopOfNewYork,
Commodore; the soul changed my life... Amiga, my forever girlfriend... Memories... Golden age of computing.... And YESSSS we are getting older...
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and here i thought that when my phone reaches 50 degrees, it is in overheat mode.
nice to know that such temperatures are well within normal expectations when doing heavy tasks.
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and here i thought that when my phone reaches 50 degrees, it is in overheat mode.
nice to know that such temperatures are well within normal expectations when doing heavy tasks.
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Dear Hasseno,
I dont advice to run device long time when it reaches over 50c... I guess around 50c-55c is a little bit risky...
Kind Regards,
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and here i thought that when my phone reaches 50 degrees, it is in overheat mode.
nice to know that such temperatures are well within normal expectations when doing heavy tasks.
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I have a profile active that it gives me a warning when it reaches 50, and it will downclock too.
PROTOCHIP,
How do you test stability with 1.4Ghz @ 1175mV?
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I tried 1.6Ghz @ 1300mV the phone is just too hot to hold
EarlZ said:
PROTOCHIP,
How do you test stability with 1.4Ghz @ 1175mV?
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I tried 1.6Ghz @ 1300mV the phone is just too hot to hold
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Dear EarlqZ,
To Test Stability:
1- Run 3 times "Antutu Benchmark"
2- Run 3 Times "NeoCore Benchmark"
3- Run 3 times "Nenamark1"
4- Run 3 times "Quadrant Standart"
5- Run 30 minutes "StabilityTest"
6- Play 10 minutes of 1080p TS and MKV movies in SW mode with bsplayer or mxplayer
If all these tests passed and if phone doesnt lock then i confirm the Mhz and mV...
For [email protected] , Yes PHONE MAY REACH over 50c while charging and playing demanding games at the same time... While on mobile, phone temperature is between acceptable ranges around 38-46c when playing demanding games... On idle, temp is around 22-28... Best choice is using phone [email protected] or [email protected] depending on the cpu; test and find out if ur cpu can handle this mV... Hope all these helps...
Kind Regards,
What do you use to monitor CPU temps?
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What do you use to monitor CPU temps?
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Dear Earlz,
You can use SetCpu widget or "System Panel" app to observe temps. Day by day, u get more experience and can guess the aprox. temp by touching
Also "StabilityTest" app shows temp while running...
Kind Regards,
I have System Panel app and it only shows battery temps, is that a mislabeled CPU temp ?
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I have System Panel app and it only shows battery temps, is that a mislabeled CPU temp ?
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Dear EarlZ,
Actually, we all call it as CPU temp... AFAIK, apps can only measure batt temp but it is a clue for us to determine how hot cpu is...
Kind Regards,
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Dear EarlZ,
Actually, we all call it as CPU temp... AFAIK, apps can only measure batt temp but it is a clue for us to determine how hot cpu is...
Kind Regards,
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So its really battery temperature and not direct CPU temp?
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So its really battery temperature and not direct CPU temp?
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Dear EarlZ,
I guess so... I think batt. temp is parallel with cpu temp...
Kind Regards,
Simple question.
My freq now is 633 mhz..still will it shorten the life of my cpu???
Or higher freq and I mean not just for gaming,for everyday use.
Its mainly cuz of 360 launcher.
You need some higher freq to get the smooth look.
So???
Well, I've been using Overclock since the Day overclock came out..
And i have no damn problems .. CPU is still working Great!
And just to let ye know its clocked on 768 MHz ;D
Just overclock it Dude..
Your x8 will be Okay
But if u kept using it for long periods..
it might endanger Your CPU
Also be careful not to fall into a bootloop .. uncheck the Set on Boot option ..
check if it's working alright on 768 .. then check the Set on boot..
I have GDXv22 with [email protected] . .
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Simple question.
My freq now is 633 mhz..still will it shorten the life of my cpu???
Or higher freq and I mean not just for gaming,for everyday use.
Its mainly cuz of 360 launcher.
You need some higher freq to get the smooth look.
So???
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Overclocking by 33MHz isn't dangerous, that's very mild.
In General - the more you overclock from the specified values (in case of the X8: 600MHz) the more heat you produce and the more you push the chip to the bleeding edge.
In short: Every integrated circuit has some headroom for overclock as the manufacturer specifies the clock rate at an safe value and not at the very bleeding edge where variances in the chip making process could lead to too high yields because they don't run stable with the clock frequency. In general you don't do your electronics a favor when pushing it too far. 700MHz+ will surely shorten the life span of your phone, how much would need to be seen as there's no real long-term experience.
Wow thanks guys.
You see after some thinkig it aint the cpu freq that is slow.
I set my low freq when in sleep on 245 so the phone is slow on waking up.
When you set it on high the phone will respond better!
like PC, when overclock it may reduce processor life
any clock reduces the life of your cpu. the higher the clock rate less life cpu
how to set my cpu overclocking to have agood performance for games? I mean what frequency and governor should I use for gaming?
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how to set my cpu overclocking to have agood performance for games? I mean what frequency and governor should I use for gaming?
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If u are playin heavy games that make use of cf3d, u definitely need to oc 710mhz nd above..for best performance connect ur charger, nd play.
Select performance gov..
Make sure to remove the back cover coz huge amnt of heat might be generated once u start playin heavy games also as the charger is connected...this will help cool ur phone a bit more..
I played with GTA III ripped version on stock rom without overclocking the cpu.
I could play very well, but the battery get drained fast and it was very hot. Remove the back cover and plug your charger as freakyfriday said.
I think 710 Mhz is good for playing.
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If u are playin heavy games that make use of cf3d, u definitely need to oc 710mhz nd above..for best performance connect ur charger, nd play.
Select performance gov..
Make sure to remove the back cover coz huge amnt of heat might be generated once u start playin heavy games also as the charger is connected...this will help cool ur phone a bit more..
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i just want to know too..how about the minimum freq?and maybe the I/O scheduler you choose?
- sorry for my bad english -
here
there are three well known methods for improving gaming performance, actually i have tested these
1.install cyanogenmod7 latest from here
2.oc from cm settings to 787mhz and set the governor to performance.
3.now thee famous graphics emulator app can be used(i'm not mentioning its name due to forum rules, but can find that app from the site to which i have given the link)
these settings would improve your gaming performance upto 3 times.dont forget to follow allthese for best results.
it will work , dont forget to click thanks , i have spent some valuable time on this.
WARNING
i don't recommend u overclocking its it 100% damage ur phone.... over cloak is just for pcs have a cooling system and....
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WARNING
i don't recommend u overclocking its it 100% damage ur phone.... over cloak is just for pcs have a cooling system and....
lol
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Its safe to do it buddy as so many people are overclocking...although a considerable life is reduced if OC regularly for long periods of time..
just set it to 710 if you are using squadzone kernel is the best with no freez no crach
748 mhz - interactive X
Welllll......... I have an overclocking "widget" on my homescreen nd whenever i wanna play a heavy game i just click it and it changes my cpu profile....
748 mhz - interactiveX
(for gaming)
and
614 mhz - interactiveX
(normally)
and
480 mhz - conservative
(night)
Yeah! I did think it damage my phone! If u want overclock ur phone just flash overclock kernel!
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