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iiNveRsioN said:
I know you're able to overclock RAM on computers, but is it possible on our phones? I sorta searched for threads relating to it but I didn't see anything. Anyone know if this is possible? I'm running CM 6.1
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If it is possible, there won't be any point since the speed difference will be extremely minimal, if anything.
mrinehart93 said:
If it is possible, there won't be any point since the speed difference will be extremely minimal, if anything.
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Agreed.... no difference really in a phone with the hero's resources
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Actually wen u overclock ur CPU by default ur ram is already overclocked
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laie1472 said:
Actually wen u overclock ur CPU by default ur ram is already overclocked
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That is only if you have the FSB synced. If we were able to adjust the clock multiplier by itself, RAM would not overclock. I'm not sure if the overclock adjusts the multiplier or not.
mrinehart93 said:
That is only if you have the FSB synced. If we were able to adjust the clock multiplier by itself, RAM would not overclock. I'm not sure if the overclock adjusts the multiplier or not.
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Not true only on Intel do u have to adjust the fsb on amd u don't need to-- just raise the multiplier but in any case wen u demand more process power out of your CPU ur ram has to keep up if it can't then you will get reboots over heating and black screens and it might get u a hardware error because most ram can't keep up there for wen u overclock ur CPU ur ram is automatically over clocked after all to overclock ram all you have to do in most cases is increase the voltage now for a big increase u might have to deal with the timing but that's rare
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laie1472 said:
Not true only on Intel do u have to adjust the fsb on amd u don't need to-- just raise the multiplier but in any case wen u demand more process power out of your CPU ur ram has to keep up if it can't then you will get reboots over heating and black screens and it might get u a hardware error because most ram can't keep up there for wen u overclock ur CPU ur ram is automatically over clocked after all to overclock ram all you have to do in most cases is increase the voltage now for a big increase u might have to deal with the timing but that's rare
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with the terrible experience of an overclocker on a computer of a few years. i guarantee ram doesn't overclock if cpu is overclocked by increasing multiplier, and overclocking on phone is completely different: you can optionally adjust CPU clock and RAM into kernel without regard to FSB or multiplier. and why is overclocking RAM not worth it when we need a faster RAM? I used to overclock on my computer and reduce the RAM bus to the lowest when ram runs at super low speed i wish i had never overclocked it makes my pc look like the turtle moving, focused on overclocking the CPU and I realized everyone was wrong, overclocking RAM improves read and write speed and data transfer but processing speed is since it's mostly CPU you won't see a difference unless you do the same as me. If overclocking RAM doesn't make sense we don't need those amazingly high bus RAMs!
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These are results of Over clocking CPU to 768 MHZ before and after Clock switch.
How to Over Clock can be found here with instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=562112
Video demonstration here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Va-44PqD28
More reports
Did you manage to follow the temperature changes?
Any battery drain results (for example Battlog)?
darfri said:
Did you manage to follow the temperature changes?
Any battery drain results (for example Battlog)?
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Well i ran a hard reset. and installed it again being i had some other tweaks running.
and now im running a full spb benchmark which ill be posting soon.
battery doesn't seem to be a factor and heat has decreased do to the processor doesn't have to work as hard to do simple stuff.
dearmasfamily said:
Well i ran a hard reset. and installed it again being i had some other tweaks running.
and now im running a full spb benchmark which ill be posting soon.
battery doesn't seem to be a factor and heat has decreased do to the processor doesn't have to work as hard to do simple stuff.
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I did not understand quite well - did you do a hard reset to avoid errors caused by unreliable tweaks previously done or did the overclocking cause trouble to the device that lead to a inevitable hard reset?
darfri said:
I did not understand quite well - did you do a hard reset to avoid errors caused by unreliable tweaks previously done or did the overclocking cause trouble to the device that lead to a inevitable hard reset?
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No. i did a hard reset to see performance with out tweaks. Over Clocking doesn't cause me to hard reset.
Roger that, sir
Hard worked on graph uploaded
wow this is awesome, but i find it weird how u said that the heat is lower since the processor doesn't have to work as hard to do simple stuff, because if u overclock something, it usually puts strain on it and will therefore create more heat, that's y when u overclock CPUs on ur PC, you have to make sure u have a good cooling system to go with it, but what ur saying is kinda the opposite??
also, can't we do this to custom roms since u said it only works on stock roms?
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wow this is awesome, but i find it weird how u said that the heat is lower since the processor doesn't have to work as hard to do simple stuff, because if u overclock something, it usually puts strain on it and will therefore create more heat, that's y when u overclock CPUs on ur PC, you have to make sure u have a good cooling system to go with it, but what ur saying is kinda the opposite??
also, can't we do this to custom roms since u said it only works on stock roms?
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some can. and a pc and mobile device are differnt
chaoscreater said:
wow this is awesome, but i find it weird how u said that the heat is lower since the processor doesn't have to work as hard to do simple stuff, because if u overclock something, it usually puts strain on it and will therefore create more heat, that's y when u overclock CPUs on ur PC, you have to make sure u have a good cooling system to go with it, but what ur saying is kinda the opposite??
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Could be wrong, but I've done quite a bit of overclocking of PCs in the past, but nothing too extreme. As I understand it, it's not the overclocking per se that generates most of the increased heat, it's the increase in voltage that people apply to increase the stability of the overclock. By upping the voltage you are causing more juice to flow, and therefore it generates more heat. If you can reach stability by adjusting the multipliers without having to increase the voltage, then not much extra heat is generated.
One thing I have noticed when running this app is that the start point for the overclock has been both 512Mhz, and 384Mhz which implies that there's some sort of CPU throttling happening by default (presumably to conserve battery). On previous devices I've seen this as an option to be turned on/off, but I haven't seen anything of that nature on the Touch Pro. I wonder if it's going to be possible to have something a bit like Pocket Hack Master which changes the CPU overclock based on workload/application. That would give us the best of both worlds - an app that provides the best performance while in use, but minimal effect on battery when not in use.
Cheers,
Steve.
Simple question.
My freq now is 633 mhz..still will it shorten the life of my cpu???
Or higher freq and I mean not just for gaming,for everyday use.
Its mainly cuz of 360 launcher.
You need some higher freq to get the smooth look.
So???
Well, I've been using Overclock since the Day overclock came out..
And i have no damn problems .. CPU is still working Great!
And just to let ye know its clocked on 768 MHz ;D
Just overclock it Dude..
Your x8 will be Okay
But if u kept using it for long periods..
it might endanger Your CPU
Also be careful not to fall into a bootloop .. uncheck the Set on Boot option ..
check if it's working alright on 768 .. then check the Set on boot..
I have GDXv22 with [email protected] . .
Medo2 said:
Simple question.
My freq now is 633 mhz..still will it shorten the life of my cpu???
Or higher freq and I mean not just for gaming,for everyday use.
Its mainly cuz of 360 launcher.
You need some higher freq to get the smooth look.
So???
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Overclocking by 33MHz isn't dangerous, that's very mild.
In General - the more you overclock from the specified values (in case of the X8: 600MHz) the more heat you produce and the more you push the chip to the bleeding edge.
In short: Every integrated circuit has some headroom for overclock as the manufacturer specifies the clock rate at an safe value and not at the very bleeding edge where variances in the chip making process could lead to too high yields because they don't run stable with the clock frequency. In general you don't do your electronics a favor when pushing it too far. 700MHz+ will surely shorten the life span of your phone, how much would need to be seen as there's no real long-term experience.
Wow thanks guys.
You see after some thinkig it aint the cpu freq that is slow.
I set my low freq when in sleep on 245 so the phone is slow on waking up.
When you set it on high the phone will respond better!
like PC, when overclock it may reduce processor life
any clock reduces the life of your cpu. the higher the clock rate less life cpu
how to set my cpu overclocking to have agood performance for games? I mean what frequency and governor should I use for gaming?
ujnikm said:
how to set my cpu overclocking to have agood performance for games? I mean what frequency and governor should I use for gaming?
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If u are playin heavy games that make use of cf3d, u definitely need to oc 710mhz nd above..for best performance connect ur charger, nd play.
Select performance gov..
Make sure to remove the back cover coz huge amnt of heat might be generated once u start playin heavy games also as the charger is connected...this will help cool ur phone a bit more..
I played with GTA III ripped version on stock rom without overclocking the cpu.
I could play very well, but the battery get drained fast and it was very hot. Remove the back cover and plug your charger as freakyfriday said.
I think 710 Mhz is good for playing.
freakyfriday said:
If u are playin heavy games that make use of cf3d, u definitely need to oc 710mhz nd above..for best performance connect ur charger, nd play.
Select performance gov..
Make sure to remove the back cover coz huge amnt of heat might be generated once u start playin heavy games also as the charger is connected...this will help cool ur phone a bit more..
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i just want to know too..how about the minimum freq?and maybe the I/O scheduler you choose?
- sorry for my bad english -
here
there are three well known methods for improving gaming performance, actually i have tested these
1.install cyanogenmod7 latest from here
2.oc from cm settings to 787mhz and set the governor to performance.
3.now thee famous graphics emulator app can be used(i'm not mentioning its name due to forum rules, but can find that app from the site to which i have given the link)
these settings would improve your gaming performance upto 3 times.dont forget to follow allthese for best results.
it will work , dont forget to click thanks , i have spent some valuable time on this.
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i don't recommend u overclocking its it 100% damage ur phone.... over cloak is just for pcs have a cooling system and....
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kamranhaghighi said:
WARNING
i don't recommend u overclocking its it 100% damage ur phone.... over cloak is just for pcs have a cooling system and....
lol
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Its safe to do it buddy as so many people are overclocking...although a considerable life is reduced if OC regularly for long periods of time..
just set it to 710 if you are using squadzone kernel is the best with no freez no crach
748 mhz - interactive X
Welllll......... I have an overclocking "widget" on my homescreen nd whenever i wanna play a heavy game i just click it and it changes my cpu profile....
748 mhz - interactiveX
(for gaming)
and
614 mhz - interactiveX
(normally)
and
480 mhz - conservative
(night)
Yeah! I did think it damage my phone! If u want overclock ur phone just flash overclock kernel!
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So I managed to overclock the phone to the max 2,1ghz . But the things that scare are the following: I make it 1,7ghz or 1,6ghz , I do antutu benchmark and I get 4500+ points . Then at 2,1ghz I do the benchmark again but I get 2500 . How is that possible and what is the explanation ? I tried making both min and max freq at 2,1 . I tried with min at 100,200,400 but the same happens. 1,7 is pretty good but 2,1 is lame. I have to tweak the governors ? I tried multiple combinations too, Ondemand,Interactive most that are in devil kernel + Sio,CFQ,Zen. If someone can tell me how is it possible for 2,1 ghz to be slower than 1,6/7 i will be very thankful.
The processor is more prone to errors at higher clock speed? Error correction skews things down? Mebbe. . .
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billyjed said:
The processor is more prone to errors at higher clock speed? Error correction skews things down? Mebbe. . .
Sent from my Apple IIe
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A bit more explanation would be appreciated.
Im goiing to sound old here...
Its like having an old LP Record you know, one of those black round Disc shaped things that was used to play music.
They had little grooves on them that if you played it fast enough they would skip over the lines and the songs would jump
Thats like the OC the higher you go the system cant handle it... also the battery will drain faster and will heat up hotter
Hope that helps
EwOkie said:
Im goiing to sound old here...
Its like having an old LP Record you know, one of those black round Disc shaped things that was used to play music.
They had little grooves on them that if you played it fast enough they would skip over the lines and the songs would jump
Thats like the OC the higher you go the system cant handle it... also the battery will drain faster and will heat up hotter
Hope that helps
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thanks for explanation
juz like skipping ur breakfast before competing in 7.5km marathon! Ur not gonna feel light n run faster here, u ll be worst! and most worst could happen when u could die pushing ur limit here!
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McXeno said:
So I managed to overclock the phone to the max 2,1ghz . But the things that scare are the following: I make it 1,7ghz or 1,6ghz , I do antutu benchmark and I get 4500+ points . Then at 2,1ghz I do the benchmark again but I get 2500 . How is that possible and what is the explanation ? I tried making both min and max freq at 2,1 . I tried with min at 100,200,400 but the same happens. 1,7 is pretty good but 2,1 is lame. I have to tweak the governors ? I tried multiple combinations too, Ondemand,Interactive most that are in devil kernel + Sio,CFQ,Zen. If someone can tell me how is it possible for 2,1 ghz to be slower than 1,6/7 i will be very thankful.
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also check the 2d and 3d score... the higher you go with overclock, the lower will be your 2d and 3d score, maybe because of the higher voltage for the cpu the gpu doesn't have enough power to work properly
ktulu84 said:
also check the 2d and 3d score... the higher you go with overclock, the lower will be your 2d and 3d score, maybe because of the higher voltage for the cpu the gpu doesn't have enough power to work properly
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normally, cpu score will increase while other aspect decrease when ur OC as u only OC ur CPU, not RAM or SD speed.
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Anyone is able to do a kernel ( possible based on cyanogenmod) with overclock support?
If is possible, add the maximum overclock on snapdragon 820...
This will get us more performance and higher benchmark
gersdvges said:
Anyone is able to do a kernel ( possible based on cyanogenmod) with overclock support?
If is possible, add the maximum overclock on snapdragon 820...
This will get us more performance and higher benchmark
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But why is that needed?
Cobalt Cresent said:
But why is that needed?
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U can overclock with elementalX.
Next time search before post
matze19999 said:
U can overclock with elementalX.
Next time search before post
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I already knew that? I'm not the OP. I were simply just asking why a OC is needed. That's all
I mean @gersdvges
Because oc improve games and apps loading
matze19999 said:
u can overclock with elementalx.
Next time search before post
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but elementar x only can overclock to 2.2 ghz
i know that snapdragon 820 can be oc over 2.2 ghz
>2016
>SoC's are as powerful as older PC's
>someone stiil needs OVER90000 GHZ OC COZ ANTUTU GOES FASTA
CraZY_BoY^ said:
>2016
>SoC's are as powerful as older PC's
>someone stiil needs OVER90000 GHZ OC COZ ANTUTU GOES FASTA
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This +1000
This phone/CPU/GPU handles almost all content the Play Store can throw at it with ease. You may have slight FPS drops with the odd game, but you are not going to rewrite history gaining 4fps from a marginal over clock and even then you'd be better over clocking the GPU not the CPU anyway.
I agree with others. This obsession with Antutu scores is utterly pointless. And overclocks are a monumental waste of battery in the form of heat.
This obsession is almost as annoying as the folk that don't use any apps and wake their screen every now and then too increase screen on time, to then boast that they managed 12hours SOT.
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gersdvges said:
Because oc improve games and apps loading
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That is false... The storage solution is what makes things Load quicker and what governor/io scheduler youre using. Over clocking is useless and trust me I know, I've over clocked every phone of mine until I realized all it does is cause instability, less battery life and more heating. The only viable over clocking is the GPU.
gersdvges said:
Anyone is able to do a kernel ( possible based on cyanogenmod) with overclock support?
If is possible, add the maximum overclock on snapdragon 820...
This will get us more performance and higher benchmark
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Are you retarded? The phone's already super fast. But no, MUH MAXIMUM POWER FOR ANTUTU!
gersdvges said:
Anyone is able to do a kernel ( possible based on cyanogenmod) with overclock support?
If is possible, add the maximum overclock on snapdragon 820...
This will get us more performance and higher benchmark
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I agree