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Diamond on PR

Hello everyone, I'm new in this and English is not my first language so excuse me for my bad english. I'm planing to buy the HTC Diamond but I live in PR and I'm stock with cingular for one more year I think, so if I buy the phone what do I have to do to make it work with my cingular SIM card?
thanks

Where are you planning to buy it from?

I'm planning to buy it from ebay. Is there any web site where I can find it for less?

Mine works in PR
I can tell you about my experience with the sprint one. I ordered the day it arrived on US and when it got here the net wasn't working and overall crappy. Sure most of the problems are now fixed but thanks to the community. You can try it normally or you can purchase on of these to make it work.
http://www.opirata.com/sigma-xsim-alpha-p-1718.html

You can always try CTI-Miami, or some other third party reseller. Also, you just need to put the SIM card from your old phone into your diamond for it to work (that's all you need to do).

so I don't have to unlocked it or do anything like that? It will work with my cingular SIM.

kuraicircuit said:
so I don't have to unlocked it or do anything like that? It will work with my cingular SIM.
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well, as long as you buy a unlocked one, then you will be fine. (it should be unlocked anyway, since at&t isn't offering the diamond.)

The unlocked ones are more expensive than the ones that are for sprint, isn’t and easy way to unlocked them by myself?

kuraicircuit said:
The unlocked ones are more expensive than the ones that are for sprint, isn’t and easy way to unlocked them by myself?
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you can't use the one for Sprint on at&t, they use two totally different technologies, GSM vs. CDMA. so even if you buy the sprint one, you can't use it on at&t.

ok, thankyou everyone for your help!!!!! I guess I will have to save a bit more haha.

[Q] HTC One with a Bad ESN

Sup guys,
I´m in the lookout for an HTC One and I found one with a bad ESN. Now, the curious part is that I don´t plan on using it on Sprint. I´ve read that bad ESN are only carrier related and if I were to use the phone on at&t, besides the Sim Unlock I´d need to do, Will it work even with a bad ESN?

Kenchinito said:
Sup guys,
I´m in the lookout for an HTC One and I found one with a bad ESN. Now, the curious part is that I don´t plan on using it on Sprint. I´ve read that bad ESN are only carrier related and if I were to use the phone on at&t, besides the Sim Unlock I´d need to do, Will it work even with a bad ESN?
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You cannot SIM unlock the Sprint ONE..........(yet)

Kenchinito said:
Sup guys,
I´m in the lookout for an HTC One and I found one with a bad ESN. Now, the curious part is that I don´t plan on using it on Sprint. I´ve read that bad ESN are only carrier related and if I were to use the phone on at&t, besides the Sim Unlock I´d need to do, Will it work even with a bad ESN?
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It wouldn't work on AT&T regardless of ESN. The radios are different. Sprint phones can only be used on Sprint or other Sprint-using carriers (like Ting). Verizon on Verizon, and even AT&T/T-mobile aren't always fully compatible with eachother (sometimes lose 4G/LTE).

I see, I guess I should forget about Sprint´s One

Kenchinito said:
I see, I guess I should forget about Sprint´s One
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Well I'm sure there's a way to flash it to say boost or something like that that's if you know how to or someone that can. Heck some small carrier stores even offer flashing services haha
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You mean I can unlock it by flashing some custom rom? I´ve done that with many devices previously, but i never knew you could unlock it by flashing a custom rom, am I wrong?

Kenchinito said:
You mean I can unlock it by flashing some custom rom? I´ve done that with many devices previously, but i never knew you could unlock it by flashing a custom rom, am I wrong?
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As of right now it is not possible to SIM unlock the Sprint ONE. You can unlock the bootloader, flash to other carriers, and even flash a different PRL and force Roam on Verizon, but you cannot unlock the SIM for GSM use.

Please Update
As of now the GSM of Sprint HTC One can be unlocked using the technique from other threads.... Please tell me if i can now buy a BAD ESN Phone from ebay..... Get the GSM Unlocked using those techniques and use it in India... The radios or freq wont be a problem as India is yet to get a 4G network(Oh God we are so behind).
Need advise before purchasing

It can be unlocked for use on other carriers pretty easily. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45243199. Bad ESN applies only to US carriers
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Looks like I am answering my own question.
http://www.mod-gadget.com/what-iphone-bad-esn-what-can-do/

elvisypi said:
It can be unlocked for use on other carriers pretty easily. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45243199. Bad ESN applies only to US carriers
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I have been reading the answers here and i was wondering, in Greece if i get with bad ESN i won't have any problems?

Vincent Law said:
It wouldn't work on AT&T regardless of ESN. The radios are different. Sprint phones can only be used on Sprint or other Sprint-using carriers (like Ting). Verizon on Verizon, and even AT&T/T-mobile aren't always fully compatible with eachother (sometimes lose 4G/LTE).
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Hey just a FYI the HTC One cannot go on ting
From ting website:
Our program is as follows: Bring your used, inactive Sprint® device to Ting, and activate it with a Ting service plan*.
Newer smartphones like the S4 and the HTC One cannot be brought over. Likewise, BlackBerry and Push-to-Talk (PTT) devices cannot make the move.
https://ting.com/devices/bring
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masated said:
I have been reading the answers here and i was wondering, in Greece if i get with bad ESN i won't have any problems?
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You wont have any problems if you put it on something other than sprint (Providing it has a bad ESN on sprint), However the sim unlock guide provided here does not work with the new rom base.
Keep in mind though that sprint will randomly go through and (Scrub) A.K.A clear the bad esn's out of there system, So even though you purchased with a bad esn it could have a clean one after all.
If you have verizon in that area you could always check about flashing the HTC One to PagePlus. Full Guide Here

Now that i broke my HTC OX i will go on ebay and buy HTC O with bad esn

anupsahu said:
As of now the GSM of Sprint HTC One can be unlocked using the technique from other threads.... Please tell me if i can now buy a BAD ESN Phone from ebay..... Get the GSM Unlocked using those techniques and use it in India... The radios or freq wont be a problem as India is yet to get a 4G network(Oh God we are so behind).
Need advise before purchasing
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dont worry bro... you can easily unlock sprint htc one good or bad esn dosent matter in india... you just have to run a RUU and downgrade it to 4.1.2 and sim unlock it using sim unlocker app from playstore... im using my sprint htc one bad esn brought from usa on vodafone:laugh::good: network in karnataka..

praveensk.rcb said:
dont worry bro... you can easily unlock sprint htc one good or bad esn dosent matter in india... you just have to run a RUU and downgrade it to 4.1.2 and sim unlock it using sim unlocker app from playstore... im using my sprint htc one bad esn brought from usa on vodafone:laugh::good: network in karnataka..
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After you downgraded and unlocked where you able to upgrade back to 4.4.2 and keep the unlock?

Chono631 said:
After you downgraded and unlocked where you able to upgrade back to 4.4.2 and keep the unlock?
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yeah you can upgrade and keep the unlock... its permanent dont worry...just make sure you are not rooted while taking an ota...:good:

praveensk.rcb said:
yeah you can upgrade and keep the unlock... its permanent dont worry...just make sure you are not rooted while taking an ota...:good:
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Wonderful news, thanks for the info

[Q] International usage / bad ESN

going to be in the US for the summer and am strongly considering buying a HTC One.
first thing i will do is root it.
problems..
when i come back to europe am i going to be able to use the phone orange even if it is the sprint or at&t version?
mainly what i want to know is if the sprint version for example is locked on sprint just by software or also by hardware..
if i buy a clean/bad ESN one will that be in conflict with the carriers in europe?

xphp001 said:
going to be in the US for the summer and am strongly considering buying a HTC One.
first thing i will do is root it.
problems..
when i come back to europe am i going to be able to use the phone orange even if it is the sprint or at&t version?
mainly what i want to know is if the sprint version for example is locked on sprint just by software or also by hardware..
if i buy a clean/bad ESN one will that be in conflict with the carriers in europe?
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we have s-off now and there is a sim unlock thread opening now so you should be ok. im not positive about this

[Q] Replace broken phone with bad esn phone and old sim?

My sister-in-law busted her HTC One and is looking at buying a new one. I know that the Sprint Ones have sim cards now. Would it be possible for her to buy an HTC One with a bad ESN off ebay and then activate it after putting her sim card into it?

morrison0880 said:
My sister-in-law busted her HTC One and is looking at buying a new one. I know that the Sprint Ones have sim cards now. Would it be possible for her to buy an HTC One with a bad ESN off ebay and then activate it after putting her sim card into it?
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Sorry but no it will not work, The CDMA which is your 3g and voice service is stored on the phone and the esn is also, So buying a sprint phone with a bad esn would not be able to be activated on your sprint account. The sim card on the sprint phones is for the LTE. Sorry for the bad news.
There is a way to use the bad esn phone but cant discuss it here since it requires some esn mods. Google would be the best bet for that
However if you want to go to pre-paid you can buy a bad esn htc one and flash it to page plus http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2601943

You can also use bad esn devices on cricket, page plus,and metro pcs by flashing it
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Thanks fragmentedlogik, yes you could use it on page plus, cricket, and metro pcs. Good looking out and providing options!
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[Q] Moto X with Bad ESN

Hi All,
I am curious regarding phones which are being sold for low prices on sites like Ebay labeled as Bad ESN. What i have read so far a Bad ESN phone cannot be used in the same country. Since i live in India, is it possible to use such phones in a different country. Also if yes would it only apply to Global phones or any CDMA Device.

metal5nake said:
Hi All,
I am curious regarding phones which are being sold for low prices on sites like Ebay labeled as Bad ESN. What i have read so far a Bad ESN phone cannot be used in the same country. Since i live in India, is it possible to use such phones in a different country. Also if yes would it only apply to Global phones or any CDMA Device.
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The reason a phone likely has a bad ESN is it has been reported as lost or stolen. The US carriers blacklist the phone so it cannot be used. This is also sometimes from when someone skipped out on a ETF fee. Most of the time the phone was at one time sold by someone who didn't have the right to sell it. Sure there's exceptions, but the majority of stolen phones in the US end up overseas for this reason.
I don't know that there is any guarantee that a phone with a bad ESN will work for you. I personally wouldn't trust let along support people selling these devices, but I suppose that's your call.

Coop9 said:
The reason a phone likely has a bad ESN is it has been reported as lost or stolen. The US carriers blacklist the phone so it cannot be used. This is also sometimes from when someone skipped out on a ETF fee. Most of the time the phone was at one time sold by someone who didn't have the right to sell it. Sure there's exceptions, but the majority of stolen phones in the US end up overseas for this reason.
I don't know that there is any guarantee that a phone with a bad ESN will work for you. I personally wouldn't trust let along support people selling these devices, but I suppose that's your call.
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Thank you for sharing this information.
I still have one more question, is there a flashing process to use a Moto X with Bad ESN in a different country as i can register a CDMA phone with a CDMA carrier in India.

metal5nake said:
Thank you for sharing this information.
I still have one more question, is there a flashing process to use a Moto X with Bad ESN in a different country as i can register a CDMA phone with a CDMA carrier in India.
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Bad ESN is carrier specific. And is blocked on the carriers end. The phone remains untouched. Example: Verizon moto x gets banned on verizon, but it can still be used on gsm carriers. Assuming the.moto x u buy supports the right frequencies in your area you should be fine.
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Legacystar said:
Bad ESN is carrier specific. And is blocked on the carriers end. The phone remains untouched. Example: Verizon moto x gets banned on verizon, but it can still be used on gsm carriers. Assuming the.moto x u buy supports the right frequencies in your area you should be fine.
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Supposedly not going to work with the "Big 4" in the US at the least.
http://www.theverge.com/2013/11/27/5153694/stolen-smartphone-database-is-complete-says-ctia

So the phone will work in countries that don't use this USA blacklist, but I assume Motorola will not allow to unlock the bootloader of a phone with bad ESN?
As a result you won't be able to install updates on your phone? Or am I wrong in this.

To save a few bucks I don't think it's worth it. Also the moral factor...phone probably stolen.
Spend a bit more and get a clean phone.
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Im not 100% sure, but since the Verizon moto is unlocked so even if has a bad esn, you could use it overseas if the bands in india match what bands are supported by the verizon moto x

If the price for a clean phone is too much....get a Moto g....hear great things about it.
Seriously...buying a stolen phone with a bad esn just seems ridiculous.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...

Kittiesoncrack said:
Im not 100% sure, but since the Verizon moto is unlocked so even if has a bad esn, you could use it overseas if the bands in india match what bands are supported by the verizon moto x
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I don't think any Moto X has an unlocked bootloader by default. Some providers leave you the choice to unlock trough the motorola website, but I would assume the motorola website won't allow to unlock a bad esn phone?
kj2112, not every bad esn phone is a stolen phone. Switching providers without paying the termination fee, billing issues with provider,... will also lead to a bad esn. I wouldn't mind buying a phone like that for use in another country given the seller has evidence to back up his story.

DVgadget said:
I don't think any Moto X has an unlocked bootloader by default. Some providers leave you the choice to unlock trough the motorola website, but I would assume the motorola website won't allow to unlock a bad esn phone?
kj2112, not every bad esn phone is a stolen phone. Switching providers without paying the termination fee, billing issues with provider,... will also lead to a bad esn. I wouldn't mind buying a phone like that for use in another country given the seller has evidence to back up his story.
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Im not talking about the bootloader. Im talking about Sim card. All Verizon 4G LTE phones come factory unlocked so could use them on any gsm carrier if the bands matched. So even if the Carrier blacklisted the phone, its would still work on other carriers

Kittiesoncrack said:
Im not talking about the bootloader. Im talking about Sim card. All Verizon 4G LTE phones come factory unlocked so could use them on any gsm carrier if the bands matched. So even if the Carrier blacklisted the phone, its would still work on other carriers
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The US carriers started developing a national blacklist in 2012 and was supposed to be fully operational on all four carriers in November 2013.
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/us-stolen-phone-database-goes-live/

kzoodroid said:
The US carriers started developing a national blacklist in 2012 and was supposed to be fully operational on all four carriers in November 2013.
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/us-stolen-phone-database-goes-live/
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even if it was blacklisted on all 4 carriers, OP was talking about using the phone overseas which is possible with the Verizon Moto x since it comes factory unlocked

I think buying phones with bad ESNs (blacklisted) should not be allowed in the US (or elsewhere). People get mugged, beaten, stabbed and sometimes killed for smartphones these days because people can still sell these stolen phones on eBay to be used overseas. Some countries are actually running ads on national TV networks calling them "blood phones" since many of them were taken from the owners by physical force. Each time a person knowingly (or unknowingly) buys these phones they are indirectly supporting such type of behavior.

streak4m3 said:
I think buying phones with bad ESNs (blacklisted) should not be allowed in the US (or elsewhere). People get mugged, beaten, stabbed and sometimes killed for smartphones these days because people can still sell these stolen phones on eBay to be used overseas. Some countries are actually running ads on national TV networks calling them "blood phones" since many of them were taken from the owners by physical force. Each time a person knowingly (or unknowingly) buys these phones they are indirectly supporting such type of behavior.
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I don't know this system in my country, but from my point of view this US system is seriously flawed if they put phones from people who don't pay their termination fee or have some billing issue on the same blacklist as phones that were taken with force by criminals...
If the operators were really serious about stopping phone theft with this blacklist, only true 'blood phones' should be on this list.At the moment it looks more like another opportunity to up their revenue stream rather than provide a service to society.

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I don't know this system in my country, but from my point of view this US system is seriously flawed if they put phones from people who don't pay their termination fee or have some billing issue on the same blacklist as phones that were taken with force by criminals...
If the operators were really serious about stopping phone theft with this blacklist, only true 'blood phones' should be on this list.At the moment it looks more like another opportunity to up their revenue stream rather than provide a service to society.
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So you can walk into a store...get a phone with zero down on a contract...then never pay them a penny and sell the phone? And enjoy your new found riches while you ignore their threatening letters to pay?
Doubt that will happen.
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I'm absolutely not saying it's ok to (try to) rip of your provider, I'm only saying that you can't put these issues on the same level as robbery with or without violence. As long as you mix all these types up, you won't be able to create a legal basis to completely ban the bad ESN phones, as is the case now.

They can and the have.. weather you don't pay your bill or kill 100 people to steal a phone...either way they kill the phone. As they should. LOL
How is that a cash grab for them? They don't want stolen phones used....basically not paying your bill and keeping the phone is stealing too...so bye bye esn.
Anyone risking it and buying one is ridiculous. Pay a bit more for one that will work without question ....or buy a different phone that you can afford.
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Whether the phone is blacklisted due to it being stolen or taken by force(sometimes lethal) or due to not paying your dues - either way those buying phones with bad ESN are indirectly supporting this behavior - which is stealing.

A phone can get a bad ESN if it's reported lost or stolen, as may have said prior. I think it's fine buying a phone with a bad ESN so long as the phone was reported lost by the owner, they somehow found it, and are now selling it. How often does this happen, I can't say for sure. Are most phones being sold with a bad ESN stolen? The chances are high. As far as phones that got a bad ESN because the owner didn't pay their ETF, I guess that's up to the buyer. I personally wouldn't buy one like that.