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just wondering could samsung be holding back the ICS for note, propably it would at this time atleast be "leak" ready..
could the only reason be the upcoming state release
I dont think they will release it in the states with the ginger..
and the state release is 19 february..
and then i was wondering if any devs read this, isnt it possible to use the sgs2 drivers to build cm9 for NOTE.. sorry if that is a stupid question just seems to me that they don`t differ that much.. only the screensize of course..
well I think it ain't as simple as you think, for one there's the S-pen that needs to be addressed, hence an extra added treatment for the note.
j_tag said:
just wondering could samsung be holding back the ICS for note, propably it would at this time atleast be "leak" ready..
could the only reason be the upcoming state release
I dont think they will release it in the states with the ginger..
and the state release is 19 february..
and then i was wondering if any devs read this, isnt it possible to use the sgs2 drivers to build cm9 for NOTE.. sorry if that is a stupid question just seems to me that they don`t differ that much.. only the screensize of course..
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Let's just wait and hope our version of ICS is wee bit more polished than S2's version.
There are 3 different source codes for At&t Gnotes on Samsung's web. Anybody has an idea why?
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My guess is they were waiting on the massive USA market to open up, then they can capitalise on the initial marketing push and community buzz and them a few months after release ICS and give the already buzzing market an extra jolt with a seemingly rapid OS update.
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well I think it ain't as simple as you think, for one there's the S-pen that needs to be addressed, hence an extra added treatment for the note.
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Personally I'm quite willing to use an initial release without S-pen and get that functionality later. That would still provide 95%+ of the functionality. The rest of the hardware is identical to the gs2, so it shouldn't be that difficult.
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Not really. The camera module on the note is different than S2. Note has a barometer while the S2 does not.
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senectus said:
My guess is they were waiting on the massive USA market to open up, then they can capitalise on the initial marketing push and community buzz and them a few months after release ICS and give the already buzzing market an extra jolt with a seemingly rapid OS update.
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my thoughts exactly, and i can see the money that`s in it for samsung.. but still doesnt seem quite fair to non-america users of the phone who bought it "half-ready" many months ago already. still love the phone though but wouldnt mind the update
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j_tag said:
my thoughts exactly, and i can see the money that`s in it for samsung.. but still doesnt seem quite fair to non-america users of the phone who bought it "half-ready" many months ago already. still love the phone though but wouldnt mind the update
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I wouldn't call the device "Half Ready"...
It does everything they say it should, and does it pretty damn well.
Being tired for waiting of an official ICS release by LG and in Future I'll never ever buy LG phones and neither suggest anyone to buy. I m going to buy Galaxy SII
sonimayurp said:
Being tired for waiting of an official ICS release by LG and in Future I'll never ever buy LG phones and neither suggest anyone to buy. I m going to buy Galaxy SII
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Hmm, there were few threads you could adjust your dissapointment. And if you just want official then you were never had to root your mobile. There are good JB ROMs in development thread (yet bugs but in development) and those are good hands to wait till they dont give up. BTW had you ask any 1 here befor buying OB ? So why telling us about selling. Its not ebay or amazon.
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Hmm, there were few threads you could adjust your dissapointment. And if you just want official then you were never had to root your mobile. There are good JB ROMs in development thread (yet bugs but in development) and those are good hands to wait till they dont give up. BTW had you ask any 1 here befor buying OB ? So why telling us about selling. Its not ebay or amazon.
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I just want to tell everyone that dont buy LG phone...u'll dissapoint....n thx to tell me that dis is not amazon or ebay
sonimayurp said:
Being tired for waiting of an official ICS release by LG and in Future I'll never ever buy LG phones and neither suggest anyone to buy. I m going to buy Galaxy SII
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Remember to create another thread when you actually buy another phone to tell us how much better it is.
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Remember to create another thread when you actually buy another phone to tell us how much better it is.
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sure..
Ahahaha.
sonimayurp said:
Being tired for waiting of an official ICS release by LG and in Future I'll never ever buy LG phones and neither suggest anyone to buy. I m going to buy Galaxy SII
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Thats good we all must know it and you must just spam General.
Bye and spam galaxy sii general.
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racik198 said:
Thats good we all must know it and you must just spam General.
Bye and spam galaxy sii general.
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Why does everybody find the SII good It is honestly not that good!! It's screen is oversaturated, to the point when your eyes can't stand colours anymore, and you would prefer to see in black n white
Well the official release will definitely come SOON, but we just don't know when... probably end on October npw. I would recommend you to wait for the official ICS and try it and decide whether you really want to change rom...
If so, I would definitely recommend you to take the Samsung Galaxy Nexus... It's just way better than SII... Since it's a Nexus phone.. It will be a potential candidate to obtain AT LEAST 3 major updates...
It was released with ICS, then got Jelly Bean, and will certainly get the next android version.
lol...stop eating his head guys
don't create a new thread mate, didn't you read what the mod said?
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WIIstpM said:
Why does everybody find the SII good It is honestly not that good!! It's screen is oversaturated, to the point when your eyes can't stand colours anymore, and you would prefer to see in black n white
Well the official release will definitely come SOON, but we just don't know when... probably end on October npw. I would recommend you to wait for the official ICS and try it and decide whether you really want to change rom...
If so, I would definitely recommend you to take the Samsung Galaxy Nexus... It's just way better than SII... Since it's a Nexus phone.. It will be a potential candidate to obtain AT LEAST 3 major updates...
It was released with ICS, then got Jelly Bean, and will certainly get the next android version.
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the s2 is pretty good but well said about updates!
WIIstpM said:
Why does everybody find the SII good It is honestly not that good!! It's screen is oversaturated, to the point when your eyes can't stand colours anymore, and you would prefer to see in black n white
Well the official release will definitely come SOON, but we just don't know when... probably end on October npw. I would recommend you to wait for the official ICS and try it and decide whether you really want to change rom...
If so, I would definitely recommend you to take the Samsung Galaxy Nexus... It's just way better than SII... Since it's a Nexus phone.. It will be a potential candidate to obtain AT LEAST 3 major updates...
It was released with ICS, then got Jelly Bean, and will certainly get the next android version.
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Thanks i'll consider it...
Buy Google nexus if you really want a smartphone that always first to receive updates to the operating system.
Samsung galaxy nexus II, LG nexus optimus G and HTC nexus 5 is coming...
those are rumours but still might be coming out
i'd suggest wait one month more, prices will fall
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those are rumours but still might be coming out
i'd suggest wait one month more, prices will fall
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Yup it's just a rumors but still hoping it will come out haha. My next smartphone is definitely a nexus.
Buy iPhone.
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Lg optimus nexus is comfirmed by LG and Google.
Source:Google it.
My main agenda is to help, not gain thanks.
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Buy Google nexus if you really want a smartphone that always first to receive updates to the operating system.
Samsung galaxy nexus II, LG nexus optimus G and HTC nexus 5 is coming...
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I google about phones you mentioned, but they are out of my range. I m confused between SGSII and Samsung Galaxy Nexus.
Another useless thread... [yawn]
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I google about phones you mentioned, but they are out of my range. I m confused between SGSII and Samsung Galaxy Nexus.
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As I said. Take Galaxy nexus loL! It's newer, have a better hardware design, really good design... one of the most beautiful phone IMO.. Only downside is that it doesn't have SD car slot I think...
If I knew the Galaxy Nexus before the Optimus Black, I would, without hesitation, take SGN
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Buy iPhone.
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The iPhone is overpriced. You can get a way better android phone for the same price.
... and you might get lost.
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sonimayurp said:
I google about phones you mentioned, but they are out of my range. I m confused between SGSII and Samsung Galaxy Nexus.
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Here's the link regarding rumor nexus device.
http://www.androidtaskforce.com/2012/10/05/lg-and-google-showing-off-new-nexus-device-this-month-says-cnet/
http://en.miui.com/thread-508-1-1.html
http://www.androidtaskforce.com/2012/10/05/google-looking-at-5-oems-for-next-nexus-lg-submitted-a-nexus-device-but-wants-a-lot-of-control/
Again this is just a rumor but still there is a big possibility that it will come out especially LG nexus optimus G.
If you want to see how amazing a nexus devices is, watch this video by Armando Ferreira
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ti08g_6Bj4&list=UUXzySgo3V9KysSfELFLMAeA&index=18&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvyX3n66VAc&list=UUXzySgo3V9KysSfELFLMAeA&index=11&feature=plcp
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_nexus_i9250-4219.php
I am about to order a new phone in next couple days and still thinking between Xperia and GS3. I know there is new generation of both coming soon, but I would upgrade anyway at the end of the year.
1. How is performance?
2. Signal quality?
3. Build quality?
4. Rom development?
Thanks for all your input!
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I am about to order a new phone in next couple days and still thinking between Xperia and GS3. I know there is new generation of both coming soon, but I would upgrade anyway at the end of the year.
1. How is performance?
2. Signal quality?
3. Build quality?
4. Rom development?
Thanks for all your input!
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There are several threads about this in the general section and the Q&A section.
However,
1) Very good, IMHO excellent
2) Brilliant
3) Brilliant
4) Getting better all the time
gregbradley said:
There are several threads about this in the general section and the Q&A section.
However,
1) Very good, IMHO excellent
2) Brilliant
3) Brilliant
4) Getting better all the time
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+1
All of the above are true but if you want to get custom roms make sure that the bootloader can be unlocked!
My only complaint about my phone is that I can't
Click the thanks button if I helped!
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1) Great.
2) Very good for phone, average for wifi.
3) Great.
4) Good, hope it gets even better.
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All of the above are true but if you want to get custom roms make sure that the bootloader can be unlocked!
My only complaint about my phone is that I can't
Click the thanks button if I helped!
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Why is that? Are there some models where it can't be?
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encho said:
Why is that? Are there some models where it can't be?
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Yes!
Sorry, I am new to this device, any way to recognize them, like serial or model ID?
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encho said:
Sorry, I am new to this device, any way to recognize them, like serial or model ID?
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Carrier-branded phones usually cannot be unlocked officially thru Sony's dev site. Get it from retail store and it's unlockable easily.
Tapatalked from my TX
1. How is performance?
Using wifi connection at home I do not find using the phone slow compared to a i5 desktop, so I would say great.
2. Signal quality?
Similar to my work BB Bold
3. Build quality?
Good, but I have not pressed the (power) button(s) lots as the phone is new, so usage is still low
4. Rom development?
I have nothing to compare it to, but the chaps here are all knowledgagable and Greg maintains a useful thread with links to many ROMs
I could get the s3 £100 over 2 years and maybe I would go for that (got this phone last week, and the s3 offer came on the w/e). But now I am happy putting that money towards the next upgrade.
Also this phone is a bit smaller, which is good.
Thanks to all, seems owners are quite happy with it which matters the most. I have seen some unfavorable reviews on the net, so that was a biggest issue for me. The only thing about this phone might be that the development seems a bit slow. I am used to switching between stock/cm/miui roms and first and last are not updated that often (we are still waiting for Sony's JB and MIUI is outdated at this stage), and generally the development thread seems not to be very active.
I switched from s3 to TX a few days ago. Sony's interface is fantastic and is 100x better than Samsung's touchwiz.
A minimal amount of bloatware and is very close to vanilla android IMO, anyone agree with me?
Development of cm in s3 with exynos are suffering many issues due to Samsung not providing sources to developers.
I don't like the jump from ics to jelly bean in s3, it seems like Samsung can't implement buttery smooth ui and just kept adding bloatware. Even galaxy nexus ui is faster than s3. Although multi window is nice.
Build quality is definitely better on Sony and TX feels like a premium while s3 got too much plastic.
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I switched from s3 to TX a few days ago. Sony's interface is fantastic and is 100x better than Samsung's touchwiz.
A minimal amount of bloatware and is very close to vanilla android IMO, anyone agree with me?
Development of cm in s3 with exynos are suffering many issues due to Samsung not providing sources to developers.
I don't like the jump from ics to jelly bean in s3, it seems like Samsung can't implement buttery smooth ui and just kept adding bloatware. Even galaxy nexus ui is faster than s3. Although multi window is nice.
Build quality is definitely better on Sony and TX feels like a premium while s3 got too much plastic.
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Thanks, that's useful info. Also I found about that bug that bricks some S3 devices, which is really ridiculous.
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Thanks, that's useful info. Also I found about that bug that bricks some S3 devices, which is really ridiculous.
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Yeah, also the exynos exploit which a simple apk can root which was discovered by xda poster. Basically, there's no support for exynos devices but US s3 is fine since it uses Qualcomm chip.
Slow update by Sony is worth it I'm sure. Not some fast update by Samsung and HTC but crippled os and can't implement jelly bean properly IMO. Ics is fine also in Xperia and satisfied with it much faster than touchwiz lol
You should properly get a T if you want more development but for sure TX will get cm10 also.
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Hi everybody. I've already checked the various threads but the answers don't satisfied me. I want the Samsung Galaxy s Advance and I've the chance to buy it for 250 euros. The device is perfect for what I have to do (the only drawback is the RAM, because I wanted it to be 1 gb). Anyway, my question is: is it good to buy it now? I fear that it will not be upgraded anymore. I've another question: should I wait for new devices coming at the MWC? Any release date? My budget is limited to 250 euros.
Thanks in... advance
Sorry for my bad English
Look Bro.... SGSA may not be that popular or might have some bugs but what it does have is a damn good processor and gpu
...... Given the price range..... Also we have a small but good developer team which have released kernel and roms which are brilliant...... Also SGSA HAS RECEIVED JB update and it runs like butter....
This is all I can say the rest is up to you as you are the one who is gonna buy it not us.... But if you buy this device you won't regret that you invested in this piece
IF I HELPED PRESS THANKS!!
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Look Bro.... SGSA may not be that popular or might have some bugs but what it does have is a damn good processor and gpu
...... Given the price range..... Also we have a small but good developer team which have released kernel and roms which are brilliant...... Also SGSA HAS RECEIVED JB update and it runs like butter....
This is all I can say the rest is up to you as you are the one who is gonna buy it not us.... But if you buy this device you won't regret that you invested in this piece
IF I HELPED PRESS THANKS!!
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thanks. I think I'll get the Advance. So I hope xda developers will continue rocking on this device!
I don't mean to discourage you or anything but if you are looking for a phone with atleast 1 GB RAM then you do have an option to get S3 Mini instead... its 250 EUR now and it has the "same" hardware as the Galaxy S Advance - only thing that differs is that this device has 1 GB of RAM.. and S Advance has 768 MB instead...
PS: The 4.1.2 update for S Advance may be the "last" official update from Samsung... but on other side the S3 Mini may even get 5.0 update..
But I'm SATISFIED with my S Advance... if you do the "proper" Tweaks and Modifications then this phone might get too fast for you to handle
Warning: If you are planning to buy a Galaxy S Advance then make sure its i9070 and NOT i9070p... The "P" version is the NFC version - here on XDA only one developer has this and that too is bricked... so you might not get any dev support if you own a i9070p!!
And do checkout this thread too... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1945806
Sami Kabir said:
I don't mean to discourage you or anything but if you are looking for a phone with atleast 1 GB RAM then you do have an option to get S3 Mini instead... its 250 EUR now and it has the "same" hardware as the Galaxy S Advance - only thing that differs is that this device has 1 GB of RAM.. and S Advance has 768 MB instead...
PS: The 4.1.2 update for S Advance may be the "last" official update from Samsung... but on other side the S3 Mini may even get 5.0 update..
But I'm SATISFIED with my S Advance... if you do the "proper" Tweaks and Modifications then this phone might get too fast for you to handle
Warning: If you are planning to buy a Galaxy S Advance then make sure its i9070 and NOT i9070p... The "P" version is the NFC version - here on XDA only one developer has this and that too is bricked... so you might not get any dev support if you own a i9070p!!
And do checkout this thread too... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1945806
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I Think we might get future updates....as our device is equivalent to S3 mini......and it is a recent release also!!
if S3 Mini can be updated(i am asuming it will go to 4.2 or larger) i dont see a reason why our model wont be?
But that is just MY perspective!
Don't buy it if you expect development.
It's a solid performer but nothing more. I came here from a ****ty, low-end htc device that had more development done in a month than SGSA since it had it's own subforum on xda.
So for the time being you can choose from:
1. JB update X or JB update Y - both provided by our hefty russian branch :>
2. two custom kernels which do have some bugs and glitches (but hey, nothing's perfect right?)
Device was released nearly a year ago. Do the math.
The only reason i would recommend you to avoid samsung smartphones is problem with keeping dialer and sms applications locked in RAM. So far i have not seen the device (from ancient devices like spica or i5500 to s3) that manage this properly without custom rom (@official samsung software dev's wtf?). So i would probably go for LG/Sony
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I Think we might get future updates....as our device is equivalent to S3 mini......and it is a recent release also!!
if S3 Mini can be updated(i am asuming it will go to 4.2 or larger) i dont see a reason why our model wont be?
But that is just MY perspective!
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Neither s3 mini or s advance will get 5.0 that much is assured. Only note 2 and s3 have the hardware to run such a hefty(I'm assuming after seeing the RAM eaten by JB) so it doesn't really matter whether s3 mini or the advance is depends on personal preference only!
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Neither s3 mini or s advance will get 5.0 that much is assured. Only note 2 and s3 have the hardware to run such a hefty(I'm assuming after seeing the RAM eaten by JB) so it doesn't really matter whether s3 mini or the advance is depends on personal preference only!
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android 5.0 may run....on our device!!! coz 756MB is quite sufficient.....
else we will also have ubuntu and firefox
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android 5.0 may run....on our device!!! coz 756MB is quite sufficient.....
else we will also have ubuntu and firefox
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One thing is "may run" and another is "Samsung will give it to us".
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@shut_down we wont know until google gives some more DETAILS!!??
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@shut_down we wont know until google gives some more DETAILS!!??
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Offcourse, but we can't say Android 5 is comming to our phone for sure.
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Offcourse, but we can't say Android 5 is comming to our phone for sure.
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I don't we will get 5.0 update.. maybe S2 may not also get it.. S2 and our phone may get 4.2 update and that would be it!
But I'm just guessing.. the rest depends on Google and Samsung
discussion about future OS's is almost irrelevant for this topic. you cannot expect from any mid range phone to support many future os's so this won't help him with his dilemma. IMO only relevant thing could be that samsung usually don't support AT ALL models older than approx. 1 year, in favor of selling newer, more expensive models. which is not the case with some other manufacturers
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discussion about future OS's is almost irrelevant for this topic. you cannot expect from any mid range phone to support many future os's so this won't help him with his dilemma. IMO only relevant thing could be that samsung usually don't support AT ALL models older than approx. 1 year, in favor of selling newer, more expensive models. which is not the case with some other manufacturers
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HTC is way worse than Samsung......
P.S. I was an X-HTC user
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It doesn't really matter what updates will samsung release, that I've learned while owning an original Galaxy S. The last fw officially relased to it was GB 2.3.6. Right now it rocks Jelly Bean 4.2 stable. (yes, of course CyanogenMod ^^)
It's quiet an old device, but still, the dev support is amazing! And do you know why it's possible? Firstly, sales. More than 10 million sold. More popular device means more devs, usually. Secondly, it's hardware is identical to Google's Nexus S which received an official Jelly Bean and that means source codes released in timely manner to work with!
As for the S Advance, the only problem is popularity. It was an awful mistake to release it with gingerbread instead of already long available ICS. This repels users, who are interested in tinkering with their phone. This means only those few people (and to whom I thank their efforts) are here and capable to do anything with development for our device. Honestly, the list of roms and kernels are short.
On the other hand the chipset is quiet popular and I'm sure other handsets with the same chipset will help somewhat to keep this device up to date for as long as possible.
Cheers!
Hi everybody!
I am a fully satisfied Galaxy Wonder I8150 user, however - since I found an offer for the Galaxy S Advance I9070 for about 200€ - I am thinking about changing my phone.
What would you suggest?
Are you happy with the I9070?
I am a bit worried that you do not have many ROMs available - while I8150 has plenty of them and good developers, just to name one, arco! - and it seems to me that the I8150 is not very widespread...
Opinions and discussions are more than welcome, tx.
The number 1 advantage in s advance is good value for money and good specs for that price. If specs are your only concern try s3mini . It may be costlier but has more ram. As regards s advance, now after Jb update development has picked up and we do have at 3 least good custom ROMs and other mods. CM10 official may come soon and there will be more ROMs based on it.
But if you are buying a phone now look for something newer as Samsung mostly won't release next android update for advance
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... And take care with the P version...
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@ Sadvance: I surely agree with the fact that I9070 seems to be good value for money.
I would go for S3 mini (although I prefer the design of I9070 actually!) but paying 100€ more for having 1GB Ram instead of 768MB is not justifiable imho.
Are there other significant differences between S3 mini and I9070 (I cannot find any other)?
@R_a_z_v_a_n: what do you mean?
Should I look for the P version since it also has NFC reader?
Or should I look for the normal (i.e. NOT P version) because it seems to be more widespread?
Tx a lot.
HI all,
So Samsung has decided that we won't get any more updates, which means no official 4.3 for us, which is a bit disappointing but can't say I was surprised.
However I was thinking, how come no one is porting the Samsung 4.3 firmware from Note2 or Note3 to our original Note? Would this even be possible and is it something that might happen in the near future?
Many thanks for your comments.
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HI all,
So Samsung has decided that we won't get any more updates, which means no official 4.3 for us, which is a bit disappointing but can't say I was surprised.
However I was thinking, how come no one is porting the Samsung 4.3 firmware from Note2 or Note3 to our original Note? Would this even be possible and is it something that might happen in the near future?
Many thanks for your comments.
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I think most galaxy device will receive kitkat, as google state that 4.4 will run smoothly on old low price phone..
I think all the eyes is looking for kitkat why you ask for 4.3?
Ya...ya...you should asking for android 5.0 to..
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I think most galaxy device will receive kitkat, as google state that 4.4 will run smoothly on old low price phone..
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That was a joke?
GNote is actually dead to them, 4.4 will be released only for GS4,GN3 and others new phones