A Friendly Reminder From The Mods Regarding Newcomers and Threads in OT - Off-topic

Hello Everybody,
We would like to remind everyone in this forum that even though this is the off topic section and we like to have fun and joke around, that the forum rules still apply here. As of late there has been a lot of "trolling" of new members, or newcomers to OT, and especially new threads posted here in the off topic section. This is something that needs to stop. Here at XDA we are an open forum and any member is more than welcome to post where they choose to (assuming of course that they aren't spamming up a dev thread with questions etc etc). As with any forum if you see a thread that needs to be closed use the report button. Also, as with any other forum unless you have something to contribute to the topic of the thread in a friendly way please do not post in that thread. As cliche as this sounds it remains true. "If you have nothing nice to say it is wise to say nothing at all."
What may seem as a harmless joke to you may come off as rude or offensive to a member that doesn't know you or understand the fact that you mean what you say as joke and nothing more. If you want to "troll" stick to joking around with your friends that way no one mis-interprets your posts as an attack on them personally. Members of XDA deserve to have peace of mind when posting in OT and at the moment they do not have that luxury. Violators of this rule will be considered spamming and your posts will be deleted without any prior notice. Repeat offenders will be dealt with according to XDA rules.
To give you some recent examples of why were are saying this please look at the threads linked below
[Q] Chair Type
The Longest Sentence
How Do You Shave Your Legs
iOS7 Discussion
Girls on Xda
The last one was by far the worst!
I know this seems like we may be picking on you but please understand this is not the case. This is the type of behavior we expect from each and every member on XDA no matter the forum. To all members who do choose to violate this rule, if we have to, the moderation team will hand down official warnings and infractions or even bans if necessary. Remember this is the last thing we want to do. We only want anyone and everyone that wants to join in on the fun of the Off Topic section to get their chance to do so without feeling like they are not welcomed in the section. Here at XDA we are all one big family so lets act like it.:angel:
So lets sum this up for everyone. These are not suggestions but these are the rules here on XDA!!!
No more "IBTL" posts.... instead please use the report button. That is what it is for
No more "GTFO NOOB" posts... if you ignore them they will leave you in peace.
This is a public forum and therefore all threads are public too. You may not decide who can post in a given thread, if you want a private members club start a social group.
No more spamming/trolling new threads! Only post if you have something to contribute to the topic. Anyone who wants a chance at having a thread in OT deserves a chance to have one of their own and its not up to you all to decide what stays and what goes :highfive:
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Thanks, the trolls in the bad threads are worse than the thread itself, imo

Ahh Alright... BTW why isn't this thread locked ?
EDIT While you guys are here, could you basically define Off Topic? I mean, we have something completely off topic and that's in no way related to XDA and there is some "off topic" that somewhat related, like tech stuff. Currently there is a bit of confusion over this that brings a lot "spam" over here.

ak700 said:
Ahh Alright... BTW why isn't this thread locked ?
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Because there are undoubtedly going to be some questions about this and a little discussion (serious discussion mind you) goes a long way.

This is all really silly.
I actually saw the iOS7 thread from your link and wow, I would've loved to just discuss the operating system without anyone saying "Apple sucks Android 5ever hahahaha if you think iOS is worth talking about you're wrong omg!"
Because while I like to be silly (and poke fun at apple) at the appropriate times, I also like to have deep and meaningful conversations about electronics and whatnot without having a fanboy come up and start a pointless argument.
and some people (no one in specific) need to cut their... stuff they're doing with the "Inb4 lock" and whatnot. It doesn't add to the conversation, it doesn't help the OP if the OP is asking a question, and it basically does nothing productive. If you think a thread should be locked/is spam, report it and move on.

estabien said:
This is all really silly.
I actually saw the iOS7 thread from your link and wow, I would've loved to just discuss the operating system without anyone saying "Apple sucks Android 5ever hahahaha if you think iOS is worth talking about you're wrong omg!"
Because while I like to be silly (and poke fun at apple) at the appropriate times, I also like to have deep and meaningful conversations about electronics and whatnot without having a fanboy come up and start a pointless argument.
and some people (no one in specific) need to cut their... stuff they're doing with the "Inb4 lock" and whatnot. It doesn't add to the conversation, it doesn't help the OP if the OP is asking a question, and it basically does nothing productive. If you think a thread should be locked/is spam, report it and move on.
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THIS. Summed up my though process whenever I see a thread "trolled'

ak700 said:
EDIT While you guys are here, could you basically define Off Topic? I mean, we have something completely off topic and that's in no way related to XDA and there is some "off topic" that somewhat related, like tech stuff. Currently there is a bit of confusion over this that brings a lot "spam" over here.
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Anything not related to the devices or development for them. This however is not the appropriate time for a "what is OT?" discussion or "My (insert device here) off topic thread relates to the device and should be moved back to that forum" discussion.
This is about making sure that the off topic forum is accessible to all without being needlessly trolled or made to feel in any way unwelcome.

Hmm okay Points noted :good::good: (No sarcasm)
That means no more Lulz?

Seraz007 said:
Hmm okay Points noted :good::good: (No sarcasm)
That means no more Lulz?
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Not true at all. No one wants to take the fun away. We just ask that you respect the rules and don't have your fun at the expense of others or their threads
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mark manning said:
Not true at all. No one wants to take the fun away. We just ask that you respect the rules and don't have your fun at the expense of others or their threads
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda premium
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umm okay then...:good:

Ironically ibtl posts were always a no no afair. Thanks for reclarifying this issue.
This is a good thread. I can see some thinking this sucks but when mods post threads like this it actually shows they care about their site. I could mention a few other forums where they don't.
Nice write up.
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Certainly excellent points. It's gotten a little out of hand lately. Admittedly the amount of new users who can't bloody read has also gotten out of hand. (Which makes me wonder, isn't it possible to simply disable the posting permissions for <10 posts users in OT (and General)? That way they can still read, just not post. Would save us all a lot of time, irritation and trouble, not to mention the mods a lot of work of both deleting the posts and keeping everyone else from trolling.)
The problem is that most people seem to be somewhat confused as to the difference between 'fun' and 'trolling'. And there's also a difference between clever/funny trolling (which even the mods do from time to time), and outright offensive trolling so obvious even my sociopathic brain finds it pathetic...
You can be clever without being a total arse. (Yes, I know, being nice isn't my speciality either.) Nobody said we can't have fun. But bullying the new kids is exactly the behavior we all hated to have directed towards us in school.
But the Girls on XDA thread wasn't that bad before it was moved to off topic. After the move there were more deleted posts than remaining posts xD

ShadowLea said:
Certainly excellent points. It's gotten a little out of hand lately. Admittedly the amount of new users who can't bloody read has also gotten out of hand. (Which makes me wonder, isn't it possible to simply disable the posting permissions for <10 posts users in OT (and General)? That way they can still read, just not post. Would save us all a lot of time, irritation and trouble, not to mention the mods a lot of work of both deleting the posts and keeping everyone else from trolling.)
The problem is that most people seem to be somewhat confused as to the difference between 'fun' and 'trolling'. And there's also a difference between clever/funny trolling (which even the mods do from time to time), and outright offensive trolling so obvious even my sociopathic brain finds it pathetic...
You can be clever without being a total arse. (Yes, I know, being nice isn't my speciality either.) Nobody said we can't have fun. But bullying the new kids is exactly the behavior we all hated to have directed towards us in school.
But the Girls on XDA thread wasn't that bad before it was moved to off topic. After the move there were more deleted posts than remaining posts xD
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With regards to the 10 post rule, I'd like to make this clear as it seems that it really isn't. There is no rule stating that you can't get your first 10 posts in the Off-topic forum. There's obviously a rule about spamming, and that applies here as well. So, someone posting "Hi" 10 times in the "Say Hi" thread is spamming, but someone posting in there to say hello and then engaging in conversation in other threads is not. I really don't know why there's such a beef about new people posting in OT, other than people misunderstanding the request made a while back to not spam.
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Now that's out in public I shall rest
And with regards to the girls' thread, it's that exact type of thread that we're trying to help here, hence it being mentioned in the first post. Sometimes trolling is funny, yeah, but sometimes it's just disrespectful, and that's what I personally dislike seeing.

**** just got real, Offtopic just got more serious. This is like moving from the Attitude era to the PG13 era :silly:

Just want to throw my tuppence in this here hat.
I agree with most of what has been said in the op and other comments. @ShadowLea comment about people not reading is true enough, as moderators how many times have you locked a thread someone has opened to post a video, or a picture etc? Only for them to open yet another thread to say 'WTF'? Ok so a lot of us plow in and spam the thread, this is done because most of the time an existing thread that has been going for a long time is only a couple of lines away. It's our way of reminding people that just because this is ot doesn't mean the search button was left at the door.
People with less than ten posts do get a raw deal in ot i admit, since I've been registered with xda the the ten posts issue has always been present as an understanding that users try to make 10 useful posts. People that make their all of their first ten posts inside of ot cannot be deemed to have made 10 useful posts. Ten posts isn't hard, even if it's in the form of a question. The answers to a simple question can be useful for someone with the same issue, using search.
A lot of the more respected and older OT regulars come here to chat with like minded people away from the constant barrage of pm's and questions from new users in their device threads, i actually have a lot of respect for quite a few people in here for maintaining as much calm as they do. Recently I've noticed that there has been a lot of posts that even by my "low" standards has gone way over what is acceptable, this really does have to stop. Users here are getting younger and younger, we tend to forget this because all we see is the avatar and words on a screen.
Imma gonna stop there as even i feel that im waffling about this again ( :thumbup take what points you want from the above, it's just my opinions nothing more.
Yours
Glenn
Never interrupt me when I'm eating a banana.
Ryan Stiles

jugg1es said:
Just want to throw my tuppence in this here hat.
I agree with most of what has been said in the op and other comments. @ShadowLea comment about people not reading is true enough, as moderators how many times have you locked a thread someone has opened to post a video, or a picture etc? Only for them to open yet another thread to say 'WTF'? Ok so a lot of us plow in and spam the thread, this is done because most of the time an existing thread that has been going for a long time is only a couple of lines away. It's our way of reminding people that just because this is ot doesn't mean the search button was left at the door.
People with less than ten posts do get a raw deal in ot i admit, since I've been registered with xda the the ten posts issue has always been present as an understanding that users try to make 10 useful posts. People that make their all of their first ten posts inside of ot cannot be deemed to have made 10 useful posts. Ten posts isn't hard, even if it's in the form of a question. The answers to a simple question can be useful for someone with the same issue, using search.
A lot of the more respected and older OT regulars come here to chat with like minded people away from the constant barrage of pm's and questions from new users in their device threads, i actually have a lot of respect for quite a few people in here for maintaining as much calm as they do. Recently I've noticed that there has been a lot of posts that even by my "low" standards has gone way over what is acceptable, this really does have to stop. Users here are getting younger and younger, we tend to forget this because all we see is the avatar and words on a screen.
Imma gonna stop there as even i feel that im waffling about this again ( :thumbup take what points you want from the above, it's just my opinions nothing more.
Yours
Glenn
Never interrupt me when I'm eating a banana.
Ryan Stiles
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Second that to the very last full stop.
Good description of what is happening atm, but what exactly would you like to happen?
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undercover said:
Second that to the very last full stop.
Good description of what is happening atm, but what exactly would you like to happen?
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2
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I haven't thought that far too be honest, i read the posts and just started waffling which generally means i have more than a passing interest in saying what I'm thinking.
Never interrupt me when I'm eating a banana.
Ryan Stiles

jugg1es said:
I haven't thought that far too be honest, i read the posts and just started waffling which generally means i have more than a passing interest in saying what I'm thinking.
Never interrupt me when I'm eating a banana.
Ryan Stiles
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Gotcha. I'll be eagerly waiting for more. :thumbup:
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Archer said:
With regards to the 10 post rule, I'd like to make this clear as it seems that it really isn't. There is no rule stating that you can't get your first 10 posts in the Off-topic forum. There's obviously a rule about spamming, and that applies here as well. So, someone posting "Hi" 10 times in the "Say Hi" thread is spamming, but someone posting in there to say hello and then engaging in conversation in other threads is not. I really don't know why there's such a beef about new people posting in OT, other than people misunderstanding the request made a while back to not spam.
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Some of my first 10 posts were probably in Off Topic, and they probably weren't all useful. But they never consisted of simply "Lol" or "I agree" or "Hi!" or "Hahaha". Or worse, as @jugg1es says, threads about 'see this picture' or 'look at this video'. Especially when the destined thread for it is on the bloody first page!.
Those are the issue. If someone makes a decent contribution, they're not doing anything wrong, and they don't get trolled. (much.).
It's not the best solution, and I doubt it's even good idea, but this is exactly why many forums have an age minimum. (I believe we have some seriously good developers that are under 15, though. They are the exceptions that prove the rule.)
It doesn't matter how many rules or threads about rules we have. Fact is that only about 2% of new users actually reads the rules, even if you wave it in their faces. Hell, even if you made it a "must scroll to the end to select yes" thing some EULA's have, they'd still just scroll and ignore it.
The only people who really know the rules are those of us who point them out to the people that break them.

I couldn't agree more with a lot of the points being raised here. Even though I haven't been a regular in this forum for a while now, the issue which this thread refers to was an issue then and probably ever since the Off-Topic forum was even created. As I haven't been around here recently, I can't really say whether this issue has gotten worse recently (although I guess it must've done to require a thread such as this to be needed) but, as we're all aware, most of the time it hasn't really been a bad thing and has simply been a bit of harmless trolling.
The point ShadowLea made above about people not reading the rules is, again, something we're all more than aware of and blindingly obvious that it's the main reason why any ideas such as this, however good they look "on paper", will only do so much. The only true solution, that I can think of, would be changes to the actual sign up process.
I haven't really got the ideas on such changes or even if they'd be made but I see it as the only way to stop such problems from manifesting like they have.
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How OFF is OFF-TOPIC?

Help me define. Simple HOW OFF is Off-Topic?
Does anyone know...?
lol... give your best shot.. IQ
LEGO comes to mind.
I never see people here helping each other build cool lego models..
So in other words, you're asking what's OFF Limits in a OFF-TOPIC section? Hmmm .... threats of any kind, damning or belittling(sp?) someone else's religious or political beliefs, making fun of people physical/emotional/psychological disabilities even if it's your friends or family member. Promoting racism, child porn, child abuse, advocating violence, and supporting rape is a definite no no and barbaric in my book. Making fun of someone's grief over a death of a friend or family is also barbaric.
Or how off limits can you be Off Topics section without being banned? As some say, the sky is the limit, but here, the limit is the sky, lol. Child rearing and relational issues are within the bounds in this section, which I haven't heard much about here. But who knows
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Help me define. Simple HOW OFF is Off-Topic?
Does anyone know...?
lol... give your best shot.. IQ
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Your previous post, sending people to survey links would definitely be off limits. Creating threads for free webhosting sites over and over again would also be off limits. Spam is something we try to avoid. Members help by alerting mods to these types of posts. Violators can be warned or banned, depending on the severity of their actions.
I'd also agree with the things robosiris said earlier, as we'd like to keep this forum a friendly place for all to enjoy.
Other than that, off-topic is pretty open. Lego Mindstorm projects would be a great topic
...so off-topic isnt really Off-Topic? or is Everything aother than xda phones
NOT SPAM JUST READ ON...( For MODERATOR )
or is anything other than xda phones, softwares and gadgets considered as SPAM. Yes i do agree maybe I erred since I was kinda "zit" where the "limit" of Off-topic was concerned, no one would expect it to be so ENTIRELY "LIMITED"...
I STRONGLY agree 1000% with "robosiris" stuff like that should NEVER be tolerated... and commend XDA moderators+ for being swift on posts and for implementing this feature in their Administration.
Ok then, is it better to QUIT Off-Topic? Since "Off" is not yet defined...
SINCE the statement below contradicts the usual statements i get... "your topic is not related to phones, etc..... always about xda phones... and so on..."
Then IS THAT "Off-Topic"? yet according to Alex (moderator)... Of-topic is Defined...as pretty much Free..
""Your previous post, sending people to survey links would definitely be off topic. Creating threads for free webhosting sites over and over again would also be off topic. Spam is something we try to avoid. Members help by alerting mods to these types of posts. Violators can be warned or banned, depending on the severity of their actions.
I'd also agree with the things robosiris said earlier, as we'd like to keep this forum a friendly place for all to enjoy.
Other than that, off-topic is pretty open. Lego Mindstorm projects would be a great topic ""
MOD...(ALEX) Help Me... Determine what i did wrong... then "zit" THIS Post..
aftershock said:
NOT SPAM JUST READ ON...( For MODERATOR )
or is anything other than xda phones, softwares and gadgets considered as SPAM. Yes i do agree maybe I erred since I was kinda "zit" where the "limit" of Off-topic was concerned, no one would expect it to be so ENTIRELY "LIMITED"...
I STRONGLY agree 1000% with "robosiris" stuff like that should NEVER be tolerated... and commend XDA moderators+ for being swift on posts and for implementing this feature in their Administration.
Ok then, is it better to QUIT Off-Topic? Since "Off" is not yet defined...
SINCE the statement below contradicts the usual statements i get... "your topic is not related to phones, etc..... always about xda phones... and so on..."
Then IS THAT "Off-Topic"? yet according to Alex (moderator)... Of-topic is Defined...as pretty much Free..
""Your previous post, sending people to survey links would definitely be off topic. Creating threads for free webhosting sites over and over again would also be off topic. Spam is something we try to avoid. Members help by alerting mods to these types of posts. Violators can be warned or banned, depending on the severity of their actions.
I'd also agree with the things robosiris said earlier, as we'd like to keep this forum a friendly place for all to enjoy.
Other than that, off-topic is pretty open. Lego Mindstorm projects would be a great topic ""
MOD...(ALEX) Help Me... Determine what i did wrong... then "zit" THIS Post..
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I've changed my post to read 'off-limits' instead of 'off-topic' in two key areas, which should hopefully make more sense.
It was late and I didn't realize I was using the same words to explain myself, which tends to lead to a very confusing response
i simple do not know and even do not care what is in and what out - off topic.
but .... am glad to have a place where i can relax and read some other stuff than all about htc devices.
this is where i go when i need to get three steps back and after a while again move forwards install applications, customize, soft reset, hard reset, browse and read off topic, install applications, customize, soft reset, hard ... ;-)
cheers

Closing of so called "cluter" threads...

This getting a bit ridiculous, thie thread titled "How to pick a new ROM and Radio?" may have been redundant but it got some very good replies, stuff that I have over looked that i could use on my Kaiser like the Google gps and the Skyfire browser software , two pieces of info that I have missed seeing on this forum, to whick I have tried all because someone asked a basic question .
There is a lot very very good info that is here, but sometimes they are often buried long before a lot of users get to see them..
So why not allow some of them to continue and NOT edited out the info that is given in them
So what that a question has been asked many times over, this is the general forum for the device.... and is look at by a lot of new users.
Or how about just creating a newbie threads where it is allowed to ask often repeat question..... I think you were abit to quick in posting you fancy threaded closed picture...
and if you look at a some of the Rom threads here, some are very long 200 to 400 replies with very redundant answers like Oh what grweat looking rom, or I can not wait to try it...with alot of pat on the back answers....compared to the thread I spoke about which had some great info it till someone removed the info...
F2504x4 said:
This getting a bit ridiculous, thie thread titled "How to pick a new ROM and Radio?" may have been redundant but it got some very good replies, stuff that I have over looked that i could use on my Kaiser like the Google gps and the Skyfire browser software , two pieces of info that I have missed seeing on this forum, to whick I have tried all because someone asked a basic question .
There is a lot very very good info that is here, but sometimes they are often buried long before a lot of users get to see them..
So why not allow some of them to continue and NOT edited out the info that is given in them
So what that a question has been asked many times over, this is the general forum for the device.... and is look at by a lot of new users.
Or how about just creating a newbie threads where it is allowed to ask often repeat question..... I think you were abit to quick in posting you fancy threaded closed picture...
and if you look at a some of the Rom threads here, some are very long 200 to 400 replies with very redundant answers like Oh what grweat looking rom, or I can not wait to try it...with alot of pat on the back answers....compared to the thread I spoke about which had some great info it till someone removed the info...
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Simple answer:
Because this is a developers forum, the rules are clear (though i doubt any of the offenders actually read them) that you should READ (which few do), SEARCH (which even fewer do) and post in an EXISTING thread (if only). Why should we change the rules of the forum just because nobody bothers to read them?
FWIW, mocking a mod will not get you anywhere...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=377
First off I was not mocking you just the picture used , it is kinda over board
IMO
Second off most sites that have stickies or read firsts or what ever they are called are ignored, very common problem and one that will never go away...sorry but that is true, i deal with the same issue on a couple of sites i admin...
As to the threads, that is what a general forum is for....Place to ask questions, that is also how a site grows as new members post and ask questions...even if its the same one over and over again.. Newbies do learn as they get more info.
I try to be as helpful to newbies as possible as I learn more and more,and share what i have learned , that is my way of giving back to a site,
and the same thing happens as the newcomer understands how and where to find the info that they are looking for, I just replied to a couple more. without putting them down btw, I just steered them to where they can find the info.... but at the same time , like I said before I learned something just by a often asked question getting some good replies , what is wrong with that ?
Why not let some of these threads run there course for a few days then lock them while leaving the info in them ? its a win win scenario, it will help cut down on these threads at the same time continuing to help the newcomers learn about there devices and this site..
The plus side to this is more money a site will make by the amount of traffic it gets from threads that are created....and also the possibility of them clicking the ads.. just a thought...
F2504x4 said:
First off I was not mocking you just the picture used , it is kinda over board
IMO
Second off most sites that have stickies or read firsts or what ever they are called are ignored, very common problem and one that will never go away...sorry but that is true, i deal with the same issue on a couple of sites i admin...
As to the threads, that is what a general forum is for....Place to ask questions, that is also how a site grows as new members post and ask questions...even if its the same one over and over again.. Newbies do learn as they get more info.
I try to be as helpful to newbies as possible as I learn more and more,and share what i have learned , that is my way of giving back to a site,
and the same thing happens as the newcomer understands how and where to find the info that they are looking for, I just replied to a couple more. without putting them down btw, I just steered them to where they can find the info.... but at the same time , like I said before I learned something just by a often asked question getting some good replies , what is wrong with that ?
Why not let some of these threads run there course for a few days then lock them while leaving the info in them ? its a win win scenario, it will help cut down on these threads at the same time continuing to help the newcomers learn about there devices and this site..
The plus side to this is more money a site will make by the amount of traffic it gets from threads that are created....and also the possibility of them clicking the ads.. just a thought...
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I will concede to you that the idea of a new member thread where they can ask anything and everything as many times as they want without fear of being flamed is somewhat appealing. I think maybe if it could be stickied at the top so that it's always easy to find would be helpful too. Maybe, just maybe that could possibly cut down on the dozens of redundant threads started every single day.
Well now, i tend to respond to all redundant threads so that it will be easier when some1 searches for it. I.E. finding 10 redundant threads that have the same answer is a lot better then having 10 redundant threads where most of them are just flaming the person for not searching.
But closing a "clutter" thread is probably for the best. Its still accessible by search, and prevents the clutter thread to expand to something stupid. (I.E. 2 pages worth of people posting pics with babies getting fed)
scotchua said:
I will concede to you that the idea of a new member thread where they can ask anything and everything as many times as they want without fear of being flamed is somewhat appealing. I think maybe if it could be stickied at the top so that it's always easy to find would be helpful too. Maybe, just maybe that could possibly cut down on the dozens of redundant threads started every single day.
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Thanks,
you should stop by pirate4x4 , they deal with new jeep owners with with same old same questions by having a flame free zone ie: "Jeep - Non Hardcore"
Flame free Jeep talk about the basics. it helps with keeping them out of the high tech areas..where they will get blasted
Now i know that we cannot have a forum for each device but a thread where there questions can be asked would be great if you and the other mods are willing to test it out.... or maybe a sub forum with-in the Kaiser general forum so that you guys can move these kinds of questions to ?(shrugs shoulders).
i will as well as others will try to help out the best we can..
ekw, good point...
I just think it is better try and help out the newguys in a nice way at first, those with less then 30 or so posts and new join dates....after which they should pick up on how the site works....granted I am still a newb just because of the amount of info on this site and it is a bit hard to try a find it right a way
What's "Cluter" ?
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What's "Cluter" ?
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I'm not sure. But If I see It I might have to Close it down.
To the OP:
I appreciate your thoughts and opinions, but the rules here were created for a reason, and they are enforced for a reason.
Believe me there was solid, almost scientific reasons behind the rules created.
The Kasier Forum has come after a long line of Forums, different techniques have been used to control the forums and our way is the way we will continue.
Thanks for your concern but, I don't see it changing anytime soon.
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I'm not sure. But If I see It I might have to Close it down.
To the OP:
I appreciate your thoughts and opinions, but the rules here were created for a reason, and they are enforced for a reason.
Believe me there was solid, almost scientific reasons behind the rules created.
The Kasier Forum has come after a long line of Forums, different techniques have been used to control the forums and our way is the way we will continue.
Thanks for your concern but, I don't see it changing anytime soon.
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Well from my stand point and others that i have read that have similar thoughts , its not working...new threads are still being created and the same old questions are being asked.... so the battle rages on......job security for the staff
so flaming is okay...but redundant questions are not hmmm
"scientific reasons" , that sounds just like the engineers that that i have worked with that have the same results,to which we will kick the plans/designs back to them and then go head make the real world changes that do work....
But engineers and scientist's pretty much think alike(very difficult to get them to think outside the box) unless you find one that has mechanic's hands, then you keep him close at hand....
(sorry I am not trying to be sarcastic in this response ) <---just stating a view point..
You only see it with mods cleaning it up. You think its out of hand now. It would be more out of hand is if we weren't here.
We work hard behind the curtain trying to make this place enjoyable and readable to everyone. Even with the threats on our person and families, even with the bad attitudes, even with people thinking their way is better. But the mods push on.
Why? Because we want this place to be informative and enjoyable to everyone.
Side Note: I say that, not because I'm searching for thanks and gratitude towards me and the other mods. Just wanting to shed a little light as to why us mods do what we do. Because, like you members, we love tweaking our phones.
And to answer your question. No Flaming is NOT tolerated, but us mods can't be everywhere. You can always Report a trouble thread to us. Just click the "
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i'm a relatively new member of these forums and i would tend to agree with the mods...
the rules ARE crystal clear...the search DOES work...and when the mods say there are scientific reasons behind the rules, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize the reasons
the flame free zone sounds like a nice idea but i fear it will just spoil the members (old and new alike) in a way that everyone can potentially end up posting and MAYBE getting answers in the flame free zone whereas most of their queries will DEFINITELY be answered MOST of the time from the wiki and by searching the existing threads
with personalized threads about already covered issues that seem to crave member-specific attention, the forum becomes less of a forum and more of a consultancy service...
being a new member myself, i don't think i have had to start any of my own threads so far...i was really really tempted to do so, especially with regards to which radio is good for me here in pakistan...but just by searching and reading a couple of threads, i quickly got a very good idea of the variables, constraints, and considerations involved in selecting a radio rom and why everyone says "try out every radio until you find a keeper"...
just my 2 cents...
ASCIIker said:
i'm a relatively new member of these forums and i would tend to agree with the mods...
the rules ARE crystal clear...the search DOES work...and when the mods say there are scientific reasons behind the rules, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize the reasons
the flame free zone sounds like a nice idea but i fear it will just spoil the members (old and new alike) in a way that everyone can potentially end up posting and MAYBE getting answers in the flame free zone whereas most of their queries will DEFINITELY be answered MOST of the time from the wiki and by searching the existing threads
with personalized threads about already covered issues that seem to crave member-specific attention, the forum becomes less of a forum and more of a consultancy service...
being a new member myself, i don't think i have had to start any of my own threads so far...i was really really tempted to do so, especially with regards to which radio is good for me here in pakistan...but just by searching and reading a couple of threads, i quickly got a very good idea of the variables, constraints, and considerations involved in selecting a radio rom and why everyone says "try out every radio until you find a keeper"...
just my 2 cents...
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Before I was a mod, I had 1,400 posts and 0 created threads. So it can be done.
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Simple answer:
Because this is a developers forum, the rules are clear (though i doubt any of the offenders actually read them) that you should READ (which few do), SEARCH (which even fewer do) and post in an EXISTING thread (if only). Why should we change the rules of the forum just because nobody bothers to read them?
FWIW, mocking a mod will not get you anywhere...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=377
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With all due respect to the mods, whom I really do admire for their knowledge, dedication to the site and especially their patience. Props to NATF, P1 and Jimmie especially, I have a problem with the anonymous closing of threads.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448207
While I applaud your closing of useless threads and this one was particularly offensive ( I am sure Leo and Dutty and sakajati spend hrs, days and months writing and developing new roms just so that they can be subjectively reviewed by noobs and the uninformed.) , I do think that it is equally troubling to have mods closing threads without an explanation or taking responsibilty. I think this undermines the faith we all have in this site ( to be unbiased and agenda free ) and the faith we have in the mods to administer this site in a way that people feel free to express opinions and exchange thoughts and ideas,unencumbered by personal biases and agendas
The previous thread and many others were closed for obvious reasons, with no explanation really needed, but it may not always be that way. So I think it is important that we know who, and get an explanation no matter how cursory , when a thread is closed.
Just my 2 cents, thanks for listening
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In all honesty, and I'm NOT trying to be "smart" here, could you share a little? If there's a really compelling reason that I'm just missing, I'd be more than happy to keep my trap shut!
I completely understand the idea of trying to keep clutter down and trying not to waste time and bandwidth on flame wars. Nothing wrong with that.
I just think that the lack of any sort of sanctioned ROM comparison information makes it very difficult for beginners to understand the forums. And, honestly, I think it results in more "How I pick ROMs?!" threads than you'd see otherwise. And more work for the mods. And more hurt feelings from newbs, who still have the same question but don't really understand the answer.
It's much easier to tell an offender "Hey, use THIS thread" than it is to tell them, "You can't ask that question," because the latter statement is only going to lead to them asking, "Wait...why?"
I'm all for deleting clutter, but I can't help but feel that some of those "clutter" threads are symptoms of a lack of information about what different ROMs are for.
And, hey, as I mentioned in another thread, I think having a flame-filled, bilious "ROM discussion" thread might be worthwhile if only so mods can point to it as a shining example of why those threads are verboten.
typo said:
In all honesty, and I'm NOT trying to be "smart" here, could you share a little? If there's a really compelling reason that I'm just missing, I'd be more than happy to keep my trap shut!
I completely understand the idea of trying to keep clutter down and trying not to waste time and bandwidth on flame wars. Nothing wrong with that.
I just think that the lack of any sort of sanctioned ROM comparison information makes it very difficult for beginners to understand the forums. And, honestly, I think it results in more "How I pick ROMs?!" threads than you'd see otherwise. And more work for the mods. And more hurt feelings from newbs, who still have the same question but don't really understand the answer.
It's much easier to tell an offender "Hey, use THIS thread" than it is to tell them, "You can't ask that question," because the latter statement is only going to lead to them asking, "Wait...why?"
I'm all for deleting clutter, but I can't help but feel that some of those "clutter" threads are symptoms of a lack of information about what different ROMs are for.
And, hey, as I mentioned in another thread, I think having a flame-filled, bilious "ROM discussion" thread might be worthwhile if only so mods can point to it as a shining example of why those threads are verboten.
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I totally understand what you are saying. And Regardless of what ever the Community does, you will have people who refuse to read "READ ME FIRST" or "READ HERE BEFORE POSTING" or "THIS IS THE THREAD WITH THE INFORMATION WE WANT" These are the people who post the "clutter" threads. And when I close a thread I call attention to my signature, if applicable, and the Kaiser Section Guidelines.
Hopefully this leads to people seeing why I closed their thread and alleviates any heard feelings.
I understand the desire to have a detailed explanation for why we close each thread, but to be completely honest, that is not feasible. Most of the threads which are closed are simply a case of people not searching and reading, and as such i suggest they search and read. Think about the amount of time you spend on here each day, then imagine if you had to spend 90% of it reading reported posts, discussing the correct course of action for each situation, closing threads, explaining your decisions to the people who caused the problem in the first place because they didn't read the guidelines in the first place.
Every moderator here is simply trying to do the best they can to keep this place cleaned up with the dozens of redundant threads posted in each forum every day, and the spam, the users fighting, etc. Plus we are trying to actually enjoy using the site some ourselves, and fix our own problems on our devices. This requires us to actually do some research, reading, and troubleshooting ourselves.
In conclusion, i recommend everyone read the link "What is XDA-Developers all about" before they post anything else. This explains why there is such a fundamental divide between so many of the new users and those who have been around her for awhile. This is a developers site, and not a tech support site. You will find many users, including myself, more than willing to help you, but that is not what the forum is for. As i said in my PM reply to Typo, I will be discussing the idea of a single thread to discuss why different people like certain roms. The major issue with that right now is that the members of this forum typically cannot discuss issues like that without it devolving into fighting. We would love to be able to allow postitive and useful discusssion about roms, and remember, MOST of the time, the problem has NOTHING to do with the moderators, and everything to do with people not reading the rules, or not respecting others.
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With all due respect to the mods, whom I really do admire for their knowledge, dedication to the site and especially their patience. Props to NATF, P1 and Jimmie especially, I have a problem with the anonymous closing of threads.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448207
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Just wanted to point out that my post you quoted was written 2 months before i became a moderator, and that i have always held that opinion, even back in January when i was a 1 post noob who moderators were telling to not post stuff in the wrong place.
I am sorry you disagree with Jimmy's decision to close the thread, but if you do, that should be handled by PM first before dragging it out into an open discussion. Also, i'm not sure why you find it "offensive" that he would close a thread he found unnecessary. We try to be as fair as possible, and are usually pretty objective. If you feel we made an error in judgement, please, as i said contact us via PM. We really are here to help.
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Just wanted to point out that my post you quoted was written 2 months before i became a moderator, and that i have always held that opinion, even back in January when i was a 1 post noob who moderators were telling to not post stuff in the wrong place.
I am sorry you disagree with Jimmy's decision to close the thread, but if you do, that should be handled by PM first before dragging it out into an open discussion. Also, i'm not sure why you find it "offensive" that he would close a thread he found unnecessary. We try to be as fair as possible, and are usually pretty objective. If you feel we made an error in judgement, please, as i said contact us via PM. We really are here to help.
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I am sorry that you did not read my post more closely. I did not disagree with Jimmy's decision to close the thread , I supported it . If you re-read my post , it was the thread that I found offensive and totally agreed it should have been closed, so there was no need to handle it in private. The problem I had was with the anonymous closing of the thread. I feel that anonymous administering of any site, undermines the integrity of the site. Jimmy usually closes the posts with a cursory " redundant " or "against forum posting rules " or " unproductive discussion ".
And for the other reasons I mentioned in my post , I thought that , it was important to be very visible in your closing of threads. Believe me the last thing I want to see is "reviewing" of peoples hard work that they so generously choose to share with the rest of us
I did not know that Jimmy closed the thread, it was just done. Much like the " anonymous administration " , I thought it was important to discuss my thoughts in the open so as not to lead anyone to believe that it was personal.
I have been very pleased with the direction that the forum has taken since you ,Dave, Jimmy, P1, and NATF were appointed mods ,very pleased.
Oh , and I'm sorry if you thought my post was based on your quote, I kind of just pulled your quote out of a hat as a means of restarting " the closing of clutter threads" thread.
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I am sorry that you did not read my post more closely. I did not disagree with Jimmy's decision to close the thread , I supported it . If you re-read my post , it was the thread that I found offensive and totally agreed it should have been closed, so there was no need to handle it in private.
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you are right, i misunderstood you. my apologies. i understand what you are getting at now.
my 2 cents.
Unfortunately not everyone is a developer (like myself) but i am here and have been (hopefully) supplying helpful advice to everyone i respond to, i have a few times responded with the simple answer of "SEARCH!!!" but also i like to but not always like to leave them 2 or 3 links to things i simply searched relating to their problem, just to prove search does work.
Luckily i havent had any urgent, burning questions to where i needed to start a new thread (i dont think) and now am trying to teach myself how to develop software for my mobile (and yours).
So i agree with both sides redundant posts suck, but an anti flame noobs post here thread would be nice. If a question/amswer is good enough move it to the wiki or the main forum. if it's not it stays in the newb forum, also redundant threads could be thrown over there without worries.
-Mike
LOL,
this 'hidden disagreement' is really entertaining!
There is one thing members tend to forget:
This site belongs to the 'makers' of XDA DEVELOPERS. Those guys came up with house rules and general guidlines to keep it the place it was from the beginning: a nice site where you can mod your device, get a different ROM or develop your own. In addition the XDA Makers even added sections where you can get FREE HELP / SUPPORT and other useful information.
All of us 'non-mod's', 'non-Chefs' and 'non-admins' - no matter if JUNIOR or SENIOR member - we are not more but guests! We agreed to the forum rules when we first signed up. This is not our own forum, we are simply members. If the existing structure can't satisfy our needs, well, there are other forums we can join next to this one or we even can set up our own little discussion world somewhere!
Please keep in mind what this place was made for! Also keep in mind that we are nothing but guests on here. As guests we shouldn't complain about the dinner we get!
Even though I can understand that some people have a need to get it 'their way'; I do appreciate the strong and clean line XDA Developers keeps by closing or removing threads! (Yes, it happened to me too that threads were closed or removed! )
Please, guys! Keep smiling! This kind of threads start annoying me more and more - they have not much to do with the KAISER but are still posted in the KAISER section! Again another thread which won't provide helpful information in case someone is searching in the KAISER BOARDS ... !

Complaint Department (useless posts,flaming, counter-flaming, and other nonsense)

In an effort to decrease what seems to be a growing number of complaints over useless, counter-productive posts (which in my humble opinion, are in and of themselves, also useless, counter-productive posts) I've started this thread.
Got a problem with a stupid, useless, thread-clogging post?
Want to flame someone endlessly for not reading the thread before posting? Or not reading the Original Post? Or asking a question that was clearly answered three posts before?
Cut and paste it, list it here and comment on it. Then if possible, PM the perceived wrongdoer and let them know. Or let them know as part of your next "useful" post by adding a short comment and a link to this thread. Take the fight or argument off-thread! That way, the complaints that you would be tempted to post in the affected thread, won't cause the very thing you're complaining about!
If anyone likes this idea, add the link to this thread in your signature...please don't PM me telling me you don't like this thread...
First Complaint
This is a waste of space.
All posts I make are a waste of space AND time.
The ironic thing is, although a majority of the posts on XDA qualify for this, watch this thread be the one that's the least commented in. Oh irony.
Oh NO!!!! It's Mr Bill!!!
G1BRICKED said:
All posts I make are a waste of space AND time.
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@ tnpapadakos
*sights*... how do I put this?....
There is no flaming allowed ANYWHERE in this site. Not even in Off Topic regarding to anything else. By opening this thread, you are in essence encouraging people to be rude to others, allowing them to "vent" against others. Users are not allowed to be disrespectful or flame at any time in this site. If a user does, then he/she is breaking forum rules and moderators will act accordingly. The little triangle with the exclamation sign on each post is so that anyone can let us know if any of this is going on...
I am going to close this thread simply because the only thing that you wanted this thread to do is causing users to do exactly that. They are flaming you and posting comments that serve no other purpose other than... well, flaming the OP.
If you would like to revisit this case, pm me and I will be more than happy to talk it over with the other mods. But for now...
thread closed.

Why are the moderators for the most part on XDA so damn awesome and good looking?

The mods here are awesome. They are pretty much good fellows and lady who read and make judgement well. This xda forum needs to find more mods with similar attitude. They warn for all the right reasons and not for constructive criticism. Sorry to say with mods like that you will run your forum in to the future. You will force other trolls like me to go elsewhere where we don't feel harassed by stupid emails from outstanding mods that protect the site from people like me . (Grammar here was so horrendously bad that I just had to do away with it. Ironically, this bit was about mods having "bad English").
I shall now take my non constructive gibberish elsewhere.
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travis82 said:
The mods here are retarded. They are pretty much morons who can't read or make judgement well. This xda forum needs to find some better mods with some brains. They warn for no reason even for constructive criticism. Sorry to say with mods like that you will run your forum in to the ground. You will force others to go elsewhere where they don't feel harassed by stupid emails from retarded mods that don't know wtf they are talking about most the time. Half of them English isn't there first language. So wtf are they doing moderating an English forum then? I'll move to another forum myself where children don't moderate.
Good bye and good luck
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I feel so offended now. I will quit my moderating duties as of midnight plus one minute tonight...Thanks you, OP...you have opened my eyes and have given so much to this commu....just kidding!
Next time PM the Mods about your many concerns and how retarded we all are and maybe, maybe we'll reply to you!1
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The mods here are retarded. They are pretty much morons who can't read or make judgement well. This xda forum needs to find some better mods with some brains. They warn for no reason even for constructive criticism. Sorry to say with mods like that you will run your forum in to the ground. You will force others to go elsewhere where they don't feel harassed by stupid emails from retarded mods that don't know wtf they are talking about most the time. Half of them English isn't there first language. So wtf are they doing moderating an English forum then? I'll move to another forum myself where children don't moderate.
Good bye and good luck
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travis82 said:
The mods here are retarded. They are pretty much morons who can't read or make judgement well. This xda forum needs to find some better mods with some brains. They warn for no reason even for constructive criticism. Sorry to say with mods like that you will run your forum in to the ground. You will force others to go elsewhere where they don't feel harassed by stupid emails from retarded mods that don't know wtf they are talking about most the time. Half of them English isn't there first language. So wtf are they doing moderating an English forum then? I'll move to another forum myself where children don't moderate.
Good bye and good luck
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Hmmmm. Let's take a look at a sampling of some of your "constructive" criticism:
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No you asked for someone to spoon feed you how to install an OS. Go read a book or google it you lazy idiot. Damn.
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travis82 said:
would you make it so we can have stock look instead of the clownie cartoonish icons for battery.
Rom is nice the look is like my 11 year old did it.
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ummm phiz is cwm.. No is no such things as stupid questions.. Just stupid people... I think you fall in to that category mate.
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I can assure you that English is my first language, and the above posts do not look like constructive criticism to me...
travis82 said:
where children don't moderate.
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Tough luck sweetheart, you're wrong there. I happen to be the youngest moderator at 19. I believe I'm classed as an adult by both UK (where I live) and US law. Adults moderate this forum, not children.
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travis82 said:
Sorry to say with mods like that you will run your forum in to the ground.
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:silly:
travis82 said:
I'll move to another forum myself where children don't moderate.
Good bye and good luck
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travis82 said:
The mods here are retarded. They are pretty much morons who can't read or make judgement well. This xda forum needs to find some better mods with some brains. They warn for no reason even for constructive criticism. Sorry to say with mods like that you will run your forum in to the ground. You will force others to go elsewhere where they don't feel harassed by stupid emails from retarded mods that don't know wtf they are talking about most the time. Half of them English isn't there first language. So wtf are they doing moderating an English forum then? I'll move to another forum myself where children don't moderate.
Good bye and good luck
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Are we going to run it "in to" the ground or "into" the ground? I'm confused now You have me re-evaluating all the choices I made in life. Perhaps I shouldn't have become a mod... Then again, if they are all retards and simple things like "in to" and "into" confuse me so, perhaps I'm where I should be after all
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I dont know if you can read or not but i used the search this thread box and got 53 hits on this thread about camera bugs why not use the tools the forums have instead of clutter up a thread with useless posts because you are to Fing lazy to search. Every time a member doesn't use the search button his penis shrinks.
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Oh yeah! I see lots of "constructive criticism" by hypocritically cluttering the thread further with a personal attack by both calling a member "fing lazy" and telling them that their penis is shrinking. Then you want to go and talk about immaturity? LOL Your profile states you're 32.. Could have fooled me with a response like that as I'm 32 myself
Sounds like you need to re-evaluate your life good sir.
How about people being able to speak in English? Apparently you can't read English:
2. Member conduct.
2.1 Language: XDA is a worldwide community. As a result, what may be OK to say in your part of the world, may not be OK elsewhere. Please consider who is reading what you write and don't use profanity, sexually explicit language, rudeness or swearing including the use of characters to replace letters in swear words. Conversely, while reading posts from other members, remember that the word you find offensive may not be offensive to the writer. Tolerance is a two-way street.
2.3 Flaming / Lack of respect: XDA is about sharing and this does not involve virtual yelling (flaming) or rudeness. Flaming or posting with a lack of respect is unacceptable. Treat new members in the manner in which you would like to have been treated when you were a new member. When dealing with any member, provide them with guidance, advice and instructions when you can, showing them respect and courtesy. Never post in a demanding, argumentative, disrespectful or self-righteous manner.
2.4 Personal attacks, racial, political and / or religious discussions: XDA is a discussion forum about certain mobile phones. Mobile phones are not racial, political, religious or personally offensive and therefore, none of these types of discussions are permitted on XDA.
It looks to me that you like to attack others for violating the search rule yet you feel it's ok to violate the rest so long as you feel it's justified.
These were rules you agreed to when joining XDA. If you need a translator to help you understand the rules that are already provided to you in the English language, I will direct you to one here: Help! I can't read!
What XDA needs are members who follow the rules and treat everyone they speak to with respect. You're doing us a favor here so allow me to show you the door: kan i pleez haz ban nao?
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travis82 said:
The mods here are retarded. They are pretty much morons who can't read or make judgement well. This xda forum needs to find some better mods with some brains. They warn for no reason even for constructive criticism. Sorry to say with mods like that you will run your forum in to the ground. You will force others to go elsewhere where they don't feel harassed by stupid emails from retarded mods that don't know wtf they are talking about most the time. Half of them English isn't there first language. So wtf are they doing moderating an English forum then? I'll move to another forum myself where children don't moderate.
Good bye and good luck
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Would you like some cheese with that whine?
The above is probably the closest thing to proper English you have posted.... Ever! How long have YOU been taking English as a second language?
And thanks for the compliment on calling this 54 year old a child!
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travis82 said:
The mods here are retarded. They are pretty much morons who can't read or make judgement well. This xda forum needs to find some better mods with some brains. They warn for no reason even for constructive criticism. Sorry to say with mods like that you will run your forum in to the ground. You will force others to go elsewhere where they don't feel harassed by stupid emails from retarded mods that don't know wtf they are talking about most the time. Half of them English isn't there first language. So wtf are they doing moderating an English forum then? I'll move to another forum myself where children don't moderate.
Good bye and good luck
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I ride a horse so he speaks the english for me.
You should get a horse also. Also, my horse is pretty good at harassing tools when they start whining about, oh, what is it you're whining about? Personally, my horse would like all whiners to go to some place other than here. That way he can eat more trolls.
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travis82 said:
The mods here are retarded. They are pretty much morons who can't read or make judgement well. This xda forum needs to find some better mods with some brains. They warn for no reason even for constructive criticism. Sorry to say with mods like that you will run your forum in to the ground. You will force others to go elsewhere where they don't feel harassed by stupid emails from retarded mods that don't know wtf they are talking about most the time. Half of them English isn't there first language. So wtf are they doing moderating an English forum then? I'll move to another forum myself where children don't moderate.
Good bye and good luck
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Seriously, though instead of making yet another one of these types of threads, please act like a civilized person and contact the moderator or moderators in question that you are supposedly having issues with. If you feel, that certain moderators are not doing their jobs to your satisfaction, contact the Moderator Committee.
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If this website is too much for you to tolerate, do what "others" are doing and find another website.

			
				
travis82 said:
The mods here are retarded. They are pretty much morons who can't read or make judgement well. This xda forum needs to find some better mods with some brains. They warn for no reason even for constructive criticism. Sorry to say with mods like that you will run your forum in to the ground. You will force others to go elsewhere where they don't feel harassed by stupid emails from retarded mods that don't know wtf they are talking about most the time. Half of them English isn't there first language. So wtf are they doing moderating an English forum then? I'll move to another forum myself where children don't moderate.
Good bye and good luck
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@travis82 - while you did not go about this in such a way as to provide constructive criticism or to receive good conversation in return, you do in fact bring up interesting points. (See there? A nicely structured sentence! I WIN TEH INTERWEBZ!!!!!! GIEF ME COOKIES NAO!!!) The most interesting is the point you make about warning for no reason (which is interesting in and of itself since the warning box is supposed to be populated WITH a reason), even with regards to constructive criticism (I took the liberty of ENGLISHIZING (that's a thing) your statement so as to make more sense).
So to that end, I ask that you contact me via PM, or the Moderator Committee, to submit your complaints and we will certainly look into them. We welcome constructive feedback (SWIDT?) from our community on how we can do better.

			
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
			



			

			
		

	
		

			
Should XDA make something against the hate towards some devs
			
			
			
				
Developers on XDA nowadays face more and more hate just cause they are not the favourite dev of someone, or cause someone thinks they did copy something. Sometimes people even make death threats against developers!
Should XDA do something about that, like for example filter obtrusive, insulting content in posts?
If you want to change something please sign the change.org petition here: https://www.change.org/p/xda-developers-com-make-something-about-the-hate-towards-devs-on-xda
BTW: I say this not just like that but I actually am a victim of this myself! See the pic in the petition!

			
				
XDA has Moderators to handle posts that disrespect others, or break any of the site rules. It takes reports to alert us though, we can't monitor every thread.
Also, this kind of drama creating thread is not going to help anything and will only work against your objective.
So please, simply report posts that break rules and Moderators will handle it.
And note, it definitely takes a thick skin to interact with others on the internet, developers especially. You can't let every negative post get you down, just ignore them. Does it matter what a stranger thinks? Not to me.
I am going to close this now. This kind of thing will end badly for everyone and serves no purpose.
Cheers,
Darth
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