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Hi all devs,
We just released a blogpost http://developer.sonyericsson.com/wp/2011/12/15/ice-cream-sandwich-alpha-rom-available-for-unlocked-xperia-phones/ announcing that we have made an ICS alpha ROM available for users with very good tech skills. This means that you should have an unlocked boot loader http://unlockbootloader.sonyericsson.com, and have the knowledge to switch between different ROMs (read our blog post for further disclaimers ; ) ). Also, please note that the released SW is only applicable for Xperia™ arc S, Xperia™ neo V and Xperia™ ray. Xperia™ arc will not work, as it has different partition layouts.
http://dl-developer.sonyericsson.com/Xperia/ICS/Alpha/Xperia_arcS_ICS_alpha_EULA.html
http://dl-developer.sonyericsson.com/Xperia/ICS/Alpha/Xperia_neoV_ICS_alpha_EULA.html
http://dl-developer.sonyericsson.com/Xperia/ICS/Alpha/Xperia_ray_ICS_alpha_EULA.html
This is the first time we have done an activity like this and I, and all others behind this really value your feedback https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/STRJKQF. The release of the ICS alpha ROM is our way of sharing where we are with the ICS upgrade project. My team at Developer World, also published an article last week outlining the different activities we have to pass before releasing an official ICS ROM http://developer.sonyericsson.com/wp/2011/12/07/ice-cream-sandwich-from-source-code-release-to-software-upgrade/. Looking at that article I would say that we are now in the Bringup phase. You will also quickly see that we have not passed certification and approval phase, since we were not allowed to have the radio module turned on. This means that you can’t make any phone calls or use Wi-Fi. However, I still thought that this will be valuable to the tech community. Youtube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoIsNYR7XJ8
What you can do is to test ICS applications early on, and you can also give us feedback on this initiative, and what you think about the ICS alpha ROM. Did it meet your expectations? What things would you wish for. We have a link to a survey in the blog post, where you can submit your feedback. But hey, I can’t promise that we can take care of all requests, as I know you will have plenty… Lastly I believe this release will benefit the custom ROM developers so they can see where we are in our process and how we have solved different things.
Share your opinions!
/Karl-Johan “Kalle” Dahlström
Sony Ericsson Developer Program
http://www.sonyericsson.com/developer
This a great step from SE. We'll be happy to test and provide feedback.
Keep up the good work
That's awesome!
Thanks for releasing the alpha builds and supporting the modding community!
Keep up the good work
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WOOOW, SE Development Team is fantastic!
Little question:
Xperia arc not yet?
WOW! This is seriously fantastic! When you first announced you were supporting FXP and made camera libs avaiable, I thought that was amazing. But letting the community try you guys have achieved is so cool! This is the most awesome thing, I have ever seen a company do, seriously!
I have seen something similair before, where devs. make an alpha-release, and already from there, want different oppinions and built from that. Keep involving with the community SE!
FreeXperia Team want to say thanks to SonyEricsson for the great Communitywork you are doing!
Best Regards
That's nice, but I have two questions.
The final ICS for Xperia will look different, fresh, right? Becuase this one looks just like Gingerbread.
I noticed on that video, that you have to long press home button to get the list of running apps. Isn't ICS supposed to get rid of the menu button, by making it to work like home long press used to in Gingerbread?
great move from SE!!!
Hmmm what will happen if i flash this to my Play? Not the best idea right?
IE-coRe said:
Hmmm what will happen if i flash this to my Play? Not the best idea right?
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I wouldn't think this would be a good idea lol.
Anyone read this its inside the "readme" Also, if you unlock the boot loader, you will not be able to download and install the final Ice Cream Sandwich software upgrade from Sony Ericsson.
For additional information on limitations and warranty, please see the Sony Ericsson Unlock boot loader service.
Spot on SE Dev team, you guys are leading the way these days when it comes to the support for the people that people ask what phone to get, as lets be honest everyone ask's there "Geek" friends what phone to get and the love that SE gives to us just goes to show you are a company that really does care what we the users want to see in the products we buy from you.
Great Work!!!
What about Vanilla 4.0?
sahibunlimited said:
Great Work!!!
What about Vanilla 4.0?
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CM9 is the answhere.
why not arc...sigh....
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Share your opinions!
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I already did mine through a comment on your blog post.
However, I will repost it here:
First of all, let me congratulate you for the effort and transparency you’re putting into this. This bridge Sony Ericsson is attempting to create in order to involve more experienced or curious consumers and developers is something that greatly makes me proud for picking your products in the first place.
Since you’ve already demonstrated to value our opinion, I hope you’ll consider mine:
Please, consider upgrading the kernel version to 3.0. The 2.6.32 you have on Gingerbread, and by looking at the demo you just posted it will also be on ICS, is severely outdated (October 2009). 2.6.32 was the official version for Froyo whereas 2.6.35 was for Gingerbread and 3.0 is for ICS. Anyone inside the kernel world knows that a great deal of optimizations separate these versions (RCU, CPU scaling, SLAB, MM, PM, …) which have a deep impact on the overall experience.
Sadly to say, Sony Ericsson competitors aren’t keeping themselves on 2.6.32 (all of them advanced to .35 on Gingerbread and probably 3.0 on ICS) and this may cause an undesirable discrepancy in experience not in favor of your products. I also know that this probably means rewriting a few libs or drivers there and there but you can’t deny it will be worth in the end.
In my opinion, the benefits of pushing the kernel version to 3.0 far outweigh the increased delay you may have on releasing ICS (1 month?). Do consider this.
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Can ARC flash this rom?
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Can ARC flash this rom?
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Can you read?!?
Great move Sony Ericsson!
Please note that you can’t use the original Xperia™ arc or Xperia™ neo, as they have different partition layouts.
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I am very disappointed!
btw great work SE!
waiting for Xperia Arc
and i hope the final version looks different, because current one looks like gingerbread
this has to be a first!!!
brilliant work SE!
kudos to u guys!
Hello
I'm reading a lot of comment about people never buying a SAMSUNG phone again on this forum.
I believe it has something to do with CM team ( who are these guys? ) and the CPU type and source code.
Could you please care to elaborate? As I am planning on upgrading to GN2 but ofc I need root access and the latest OS all the time
Thank you.
Which post are you refering to? I just seem to see post saying how awesome the Note 2eand SIII are!
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Which post are you refering to? I just seem to see post saying how awesome the Note 2eand SIII are!
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It's not just 1 post,
All around the forum , especially in the GN forum ( where I spend most of my time ) I see people complaining about Samsung devices in the future and how they will never buy another samsung again ...
I guess it all depends whether or not you want to run CM custom roms on your device.
Furthermore Samsung promised to release the Exynos sources...So we'll just wait and see
Problem ist that the source code is no available and without no new CM AOSP AOKP Roms possible. The company said in the past that they will release the code, but till today they don't.
Other companies like Sony did it better and supports the community. That's also a reason why great Dev won't work for our Note...
It's not impossible to bring new roms without sourcecode - we still have CM10 and will get CM10.1 - but the experience is not the best, and devs have to put A LOT of work to even make it work.
Samsung promised they will release their sources - yet untill today - they didn't. So it's simple as that, if they release sources - devs might finally fix some bugs and push CM10 into stable. Without sources we might never go out of nigthlies because some bugs might never get fixed.
As for SONY, yes they release all their sources, but remember that they used to be like Samsung untill their market share shrinked, so now they're most likely just trying to appeal to customers with that. Hope they won't change their mind about it when/if their sales go high again ( I'm looking at you Xperia Yuga )
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Problem ist that the source code is no available and without no new CM AOSP AOKP Roms possible. The company said in the past that they will release the code, but till today they don't.
Other companies like Sony did it better and supports the community. That's also a reason why great Dev won't work for our Note...
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Very true, but I think they don't give a ....about a few devs and users being frustrated when they sell millions of devices...Like most of the big selling companys
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It's not just 1 post,
All around the forum , especially in the GN forum ( where I spend most of my time ) I see people complaining about Samsung devices in the future and how they will never buy another samsung again ...
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I think u r talking abt this thread..especially this one..
a pall of gloom has descended on the community it seems
check out CM 10 thread
i hope its a temporary phase -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=35210934&postcount=1651
Samsung didnt want the devs to work for the android community because in the end it gives an advantage to google and its os. Samsung wants people to buy its phones because of their new features added in their TW that are not available on true android. They in the future wants their devices ti be free from the android pool. Because of the tiring update process. No source code release is just what keeps dev from moding their devices so they can market their new phones and limit those features in the old models. I dont think they will care about dev going to other vendors. Because once they got hold of a new indigenous OS. they will market its dev kits and hardware for developers and they know how to bring them back.
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CyanogenMod recently pushed out stables for CM10.2 on a select range of devices announcing that, with this, their efforts would be solely focused towards the CM11 code branches. However, they also announced that any devices which received that RC1 of CM10.2 would too continue into CM11.
My question, considering we are still unfortunate enough to be on somewhat unstable nightlies (the notification sound delay, UI issues, application crashes) is, what will be the future of CyanogenMod on the O4x? Will we even make it to stable CM10.2?
Hopefully we can! This is such a brilliant device as you all know well, and the hardware restrictions of KitKat are supposed to be lowered anyway
For clarification, this is not a complaint, the work of the CyanogenMod Team is always much appreciated. I, and so many of you, have donated and thanked them and tested their software for them. This is merely to gain an understanding of where our device is headed so as to aid everybody here in the decision of whether to stick with the device or, should worse come to worse.... look for another :-/
csfrank271 said:
CyanogenMod recently pushed out stables for CM10.2 on a select range of devices announcing that, with this, their efforts would be solely focused towards the CM11 code branches. However, they also announced that any devices which received that RC1 of CM10.2 would too continue into CM11.
My question, considering we are still unfortunate enough to be on somewhat unstable nightlies (the notification sound delay, UI issues, application crashes) is, what will be the future of CyanogenMod on the O4x? Will we even make it to stable CM10.2?
Hopefully we can! This is such a brilliant device as you all know well, and the hardware restrictions of KitKat are supposed to be lowered anyway
For clarification, this is not a complaint, the work of the CyanogenMod Team is always much appreciated. I, and so many of you, have donated and thanked them and tested their software for them. This is merely to gain an understanding of where our device is headed so as to aid everybody here in the decision of whether to stick with the device or, should worse come to worse.... look for another :-/
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probably no official CM11 for us, or 10.2 stable/rc, atleast in forseeable future. thankfully, we have some very skilled devs working on unofficial version of CM, & Vanir&Omni.
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probably no official CM11 for us, or 10.2 stable/rc, atleast in forseeable future. thankfully, we have some very skilled devs working on unofficial version of CM, & Vanir&Omni.
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Thank you, I was just wondering about the state of the official ROMs, it seems like the P880 has been forgotten about by CM
But, as you say, we are very lucky to have these fantastic devs building even better custom ROMs
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probably no official CM11 for us, or 10.2 stable/rc, atleast in forseeable future. thankfully, we have some very skilled devs working on unofficial version of CM, & Vanir&Omni.
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If everything is working right we should be able to submit it to cyanogenmod to get our nightlies back, but im not 100% sure
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If everything is working right we should be able to submit it to cyanogenmod to get our nightlies back, but im not 100% sure
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Hopefully we can have the issues fixed
Can't wait to see the community development though, the new Android RunTime looks very fascinating :3
why dont u enter cyanogenmod and see with your eyes ? anyway. of course we dont see any support. its a miracle that we had that much support too. who will support a phone which doesnt even has the support of the official company ? LG only had 4.0.3 and 4.1.2 and thats all. isnt it already a miracle that we have 4.3.1 ? and we have also so many good developers that work for 4.4 ?
I don't understand why people want 4.4 so bad when it's one of the worst upgrades from Google i have ever seen. They had to launch 4.4.1 updates right away. You want a better software I agree thats needed but 4.4 isn't a solution.
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I don't understand why people want 4.4 so bad when it's one of the worst upgrades from Google i have ever seen. They had to launch 4.4.1 updates right away. You want a better software I agree thats needed but 4.4 isn't a solution.
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Everyone wants KitKat because... Well, because it's new! Why not? I believe that pushing one's expectations beyond what is already achieved represents a strong impulse to improvement. Experimenting, trying new solutions, feeling the awesomeness of something that did not exist before is a powerful spring to the change, the change in itself is something that animates the developers and makes them work with no reward as if this was their job.
It has happened with all Android versions, and always there had been someone who felt amazed and wondered why should we need a new version.
kK can be (and probably is, but who am I to judge) one of the worst Android versions, but I am happy to see people trying to overcome all the problems related with making it work on a relatively old device, and I am happy if by testing what is being developed, and by giving my opinion I can be of some help to somebody.
Want to call it a game? Why not! Want to consider people like me as grown up kids that need something to play with? Well, yes, I am, and will always cheer a new Android version working on one of my devices with grateful heart.
Ricardo Cerqueira is no longer the maintainer of our device?
there is no one who will replace him?
It should be possible to join the CM team, if the 4.4 is running.
The tegra3 problems will hopefully not be a trap for it.
If there is a maintainer who can update CM once, there will be no real reason not to get official support.
Good news everybody!
On the CyanogenMod website, the P880 has been listed officially as one the devices to receive support further than the CM10.2 nightlies, which will be a win-win for everyone
Bye Bye CM !
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Bye Bye CM !
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Why do you say that? :-/
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On the CyanogenMod website, the P880 has been listed officially as one the devices to receive support further than the CM10.2 nightlies, which will be a win-win for everyone
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I saw the latest list the have revealed now, this is great!!
Noticed though that they said MOST of the devices that have CM10.2 builds will move into CM11 nightly during the next weeks.. "Most" hopefully means the P880 as well!
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I saw the latest list the have revealed now, this is great!!
Noticed though that they said MOST of the devices that have CM10.2 builds will move into CM11 nightly during the next weeks.. "Most" hopefully means the P880 as well!
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Yes, hopefully!
But hey, a stable CM10.2 would even be fantastic, the community devs would appreciate it surely
We never got the m1 and stable so i hardly belive it that we get cm11. And without a good 3.4 kernel source from lg we wont feeo many adventafes of 4.4. but the awesome awesome optic would be nice Maybe im going to buy a Nexus 5. Im so frustrated of my lg optimus 2x and 4x. ONE update -.-
If you didnt know yesterday the FXP team announced that it would begin lollipop nightlies for 12 Xperia devices, in which our SP isnt included. While reading the list with the 12 devices i realised that devices that are WAY less powerfull like the E3 will get support, and our device which in my expierience seems to run lollipop with ease doesnt get support.
This really frustrated me, as i dont understand why would they do that. Does anyone have an explanation ???
Btw happy holidays everyone
Different phones = different problems. Some phones are more easy to make ports. And other fact is what the XSP developer community is not too big, we don't have much developers working on our phone. More popular phones have more developers, bringing ports more quickly. We have some devs working to bring Lollipop to us, already have a almost fully working build of 5.0 for LBL, which is more harder to port. Unlocked BL only maybe is coming soon. What rest for us is only wait. If someone can't wait is easy: just learn how to develop a ROM and build it for yourself.
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Different phones = different problems. Some phones are more easy to make ports. And other fact is what the XSP developer community is not too big, we don't have much developers working on our phone. More popular phones have more developers, bringing ports more quickly. We have some devs working to bring Lollipop to us, already have a almost fully working build of 5.0 for LBL, which is more harder to port. Unlocked BL only maybe is coming soon. What rest for us is only wait. If someone can't wait is easy: just learn how to develop a ROM and build it for yourself.
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If it works for LBL, it will definitely for UBL Just saying
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If you didnt know yesterday the FXP team announced that it would begin lollipop nightlies for 12 Xperia devices, in which our SP isnt included. While reading the list with the 12 devices i realised that devices that are WAY less powerfull like the E3 will get support, and our device which in my expierience seems to run lollipop with ease doesnt get support.
This really frustrated me, as i dont understand why would they do that. Does anyone have an explanation ???
Btw happy holidays everyone
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Newer devices first.Even XZ is not listed,so there is no way SP could make up in the list.
Hi community!
There is a WIP (Work in Progress) ROM being mainly developed by @Rortiz2 and @diegocr: https://github.com/LOSMantis
Current ROM Status:
- Not Stable
Not Working:
- Sound
- OMX
- Maybe more...
Developers out there that would like to join development are welcome!...
Notice: This is a WIP ROM. It needs to be compile from the source (build steps could be adapted from the Nexus Player https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/fugu/build) if someone wants to try it out. Ready to flash builds would maybe be available when the ROM is more stable. Please do not ask for ETA, it is being developed in the spare time of the developers!
michael.santos said:
Hi community!
Anyone already seen this project on github: https://github.com/LOSMantis ?
It is a shame that this project are not being discussed here on XDA so more devs could help on this project...
Hope this post will "awake" some devs (maybe @Pretoriano80?) for this project...
This can be the project that will free our Fire TV Stick 4k from the crappy FireOS!
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'I believe @diegocr and @Rotiz2 were working on it some and couldn't get the sound to work. Not sure if actively though...
This can be the project that will free our Fire TV Stick 4k from the crappy FireOS!
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FireOS is very well maintained, even the oldest fireTVs/sticks getting still proper updates...
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FireOS is very well maintained, even the oldest fireTVs/sticks getting still proper updates...
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Yes, but full of bloatware, with some blocking mechanisms or black listed apps, no Google Play Store...
We are not allowed to change the home app easily, to use the standard Android settings without Amazon home app, not install already purchased apps on the Google Play Store and so on...
With root you can disable remove the "bloatware", although personally i dont think there is much i dont use. The fireOS TV is fairly smooth and easy to navigate. The android TV version is worse (IMO, I have a NVidea). You can disable the NIMH app, although i have yet to find any app it is blocking. The play store for androidTV is horrible. LauncherX is fairly easy to install. As with tank and sloan, i would expect issues with roms.
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Rortiz2 said:
Can you and other people (that did this aswell) stop creating threads like this?
We're working on mantis yes but this takes its time...
For now all is working except OMX and Audio so it's not worth to release anything.
We will create the ROM thread when it's enough usable.
Just wait...
Regards.
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Hi Rortiz2,
Why are you so mad about this thread? We did not ask for a working ROM or any release dates and we appreciate all your time and dedication to the project...
As I wrote in the subject, this is a WIP (Work in Progress) ROM... Have seen so many threads like this in other forums here on XDA where the ROM only boots but nothing works...
I have created this thread to allow other devs to join the project (if nobody talks about it, than nobody knows that a project already exists and can not help).
But if you would like to do this project alone, just tell me an I will delete this thread...
Best regards,
Michael
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I got really excited when I saw this thread. I cannot wait for stock Android for the Firestick 4K. I will 100% donate to the dev's who get this working!!
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It's ok, leave the thread here. If somebody wants to help there's no problem.
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Just throwing out an idea here but would getting some kind of test build out help? Perhaps getting some catlogs from the community could help find a solution? Again just throwing an idea out.
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Just throwing out an idea here but would getting some kind of test build out help? Perhaps getting some catlogs from the community could help find a solution? Again just throwing an idea out.
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+1 for a test build, I've got a bricked 4k that boots both the hacked bootloader and TWRP, but whatever image I install has no display...
So I would like to try anything else even if stuff is broken on it (just to see if I can get a display).
thx.
michael.santos said:
Hi community!
Anyone already seen this project on github: https://github.com/LOSMantis ?
It is a shame that this project are not being discussed here on XDA so more devs could help on this project...
Hope this post will "awake" some devs (maybe @Pretoriano80?) for this project...
This can be the project that will free our Fire TV Stick 4k from the crappy FireOS!
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It's at developer's discretion to discuss or release test builds here and considering that this particular rom still has some major bugs (call them deal breakers if you want), then i personally agree with the devs not releasing it yet.
Also, i didn't tested personally, but probably a custom rom like this may also break some features available on stock rom.
This being said, i'm sure that it will be released as soon as the guys behind it will consider it stable enough.
P. S. BTW, thread title is misleading and probably aldo violates XDA rules.
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It's at developer's discretion to discuss or release test builds here and considering that this particular rom still has some major bugs (call them deal breakers if you want), then i personally agree with the devs not releasing it yet.
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I totally understand and respect that. I did bring up having some kind of developer/user test build done just in case that could help further along getting said bugs fixed by getting catlogs that might help narrow down what is causing the issues. But if the devs feel that doing that would only slow things down (or even not help at all) then I respect that decision.
Also, i didn't tested personally, but probably a custom rom like this may also break some features available on stock rom.
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That's the nature of things when it comes to Lineage OS ROMs (and AOSP in general). Sometimes devs are able to get the ROMs to have nearly all the functionality of the device working... and sometimes not. But I generally prefer Lineage myself due to the overall experience being faster since LOS tends to not have all the bloat that stock ROMs sometimes have - especially Amazon devices which feel so bloated down with garbage I will never use.
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It's at developer's discretion to discuss or release test builds here and considering that this particular rom still has some major bugs (call them deal breakers if you want), then i personally agree with the devs not releasing it yet.
Also, i didn't tested personally, but probably a custom rom like this may also break some features available on stock rom.
This being said, i'm sure that it will be released as soon as the guys behind it will consider it stable enough.
P. S. BTW, thread title is misleading and probably aldo violates XDA rules.
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Hi Pretoriano80,
As I already replied to one of the devs, I never asked for a release date or ROM for flashing. The title also is marked as WIP (Work in Progress), that means that the ROM is in development and not ready for use...
I have seen that you already made a great job with the custom kernel. Thanks! Would you also like to help this project as it seems it also can use your kernel? Kernel dev with ROM devs would be the best team!
Thanks again to all devs that work hard for releasing new stuff for the Amazon devices...
How's the progress so far?
Looks like nothing much: https://github.com/LOSMantis/android_vendor_amazon_mantis
Too bad !!
dead project ?
I made a test build (with many warnings). Also I used the kernel from @Pretoriano80.
You can download it here: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=324510
Please note that I couldn't test this out yet, so be careful of what you do. (Will try it out for myself soon)
Ungeskriptet said:
I made a test build (with many warnings). Also I used the kernel from @Pretoriano80.
You can download it here: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=324510
Please note that I couldn't test this out yet, so be careful of what you do. (Will try it out for myself soon)
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it's not worth to test since it's a dead project, it would be more usefull to begin a new project developing LineageOS 16 rom , At least we will be able to use the new Android/Google TV UI.
robin994 said:
it's not worth to test since it's a dead project, it would be more usefull to begin a new project developing LineageOS 16 rom , At least we will be able to use the new Android/Google TV UI.
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LineageOS 16 won't ever be able to happen for the Mantis version because it doesn't support treble, the most it could do is LOS 14.1 since it's a legacy device.