So, I know wifi-direct is a standard to wirelessly transfer data between 2 devices without a network/router/other form of middleman and I know NFC gets 2 devices to connect and transfer the data. However, is there a way to do this WITHOUT a 3rd party app like Superbeam and WITHOUT NFC?
For instance: Going into the wifi settings, there is an option to manually connect to a device through wifi-direct. I have connected my HTC One to my Nexus 7 and a Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1. But I see nothing that allows me to transfer any data anywhere after connecting. It's not in the wifi-direct settings, it's not in any app I've looked at, nothing.
Any insight as to why this option is a part of Android if NFC or third party apps are the only way to do this? Or if I'm simply just missing something?
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gk1984 said:
So, I know wifi-direct is a standard to wirelessly transfer data between 2 devices without a network/router/other form of middleman and I know NFC gets 2 devices to connect and transfer the data. However, is there a way to do this WITHOUT a 3rd party app like Superbeam and WITHOUT NFC?
For instance: Going into the wifi settings, there is an option to manually connect to a device through wifi-direct. I have connected my HTC One to my Nexus 7 and a Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1. But I see nothing that allows me to transfer any data anywhere after connecting. It's not in the wifi-direct settings, it's not in any app I've looked at, nothing.
Any insight as to why this option is a part of Android if NFC or third party apps are the only way to do this? Or if I'm simply just missing something?
This is what I'm curious about
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i believe this would be in your settings under transfer content instead of under wifi settings. just a guess if i am mistaken some please let me know.
Thanks for the suggestion, I'll experiment with that. But that's asking for the other phone to install the HTC transfer app as well. It feels like it's designed to move your info from your old phone to new one, not exactly "here's a file for you" kind of use. I'll try it later and share what I find.
reading up that there may not be any system-level functionality for wifi-direct. Will need an app to take advantage of it. oh well...
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I've tried to beam anything (photo, video, webpage, etc) from my Nexus 7 to my Galaxy Nexus and it won't work. I went into settings and made sure that NFC was checked and Android Beam on. This was the case for the GN but the 7 didn't allow me to select it. The NFC is checked but it's 'greyed' out and won't let me select it. Same with the Android Beam.
Anyone else having this issue? Or know how to solve it?
Many thanks in advance!
lexdouble said:
I've tried to beam anything (photo, video, webpage, etc) from my Nexus 7 to my Galaxy Nexus and it won't work. I went into settings and made sure that NFC was checked and Android Beam on. This was the case for the GN but the 7 didn't allow me to select it. The NFC is checked but it's 'greyed' out and won't let me select it. Same with the Android Beam.
Anyone else having this issue? Or know how to solve it?
Many thanks in advance!
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Do you have airplane mode turned on?
I may be wrong but I believe android beam only allows for web and application address data to be shared. Pictures and whatnot are to large for the NFC chip to handle.
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Yea it passes small amounts of data although I just saw a SGSIII commercial at the movies where a guy does this. I'm not sure if it uses NFC the whole way or merely as a flag to turn on Bluetooth, pair, transfer, and disconnect... or use WiFi beam.
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Did you ever find out a solution to your problem? I noticed I now have the same problem. I just used a NFC tag a week ago and am trying to figure out what I have done to the tablet since then. Definitely not in airplane mode.
EDIT: Never mind, a power off fixed it.
Is NFC turned on? settings > more > nfc - tick
Open Google Wallet
The NFC option on mine was not available until I activated (opened) Google Wallet.
Did you try a restart? Mine was greyed out last night along with NFC. Restart fixed it
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This may not get you working, but it's definitely a little more insight as to what is happening for this type of transfer (larger payloads):
Android Beam
Android Beam is a popular NFC-based technology that lets users instantly share, just by touching two NFC-enabled phones together.
In Android 4.1, Android Beam makes it easier to share images, videos, or other payloads by leveraging Bluetooth for the data transfer. When the user triggers a transfer, Android Beam hands over from NFC to Bluetooth, making it really easy to manage the transfer of a file from one device to another.
Source: http://developer.android.com/about/versions/jelly-bean.html - about 3/4 down the page
I have bigger problem. My NFC and everything is working fine as far as software is concerned and the option is not out grayed out either. The option is checked however I am not able to beam anything to my SGS3. There is no sound or indication when I put them together from back. I know my SGS3 works fine because I have beamed someone before using it.
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SOLVED: Restart N7 to enable NFC
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Do you have airplane mode turned on?
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I had the same problem. All you have to do is shut down your Nexus 7 and turn it back on and you're all set.
Can anybody tell me how to use android beam and WiFi direct on o4x? I have tried every permutation and combination to get these working but failed only play store opens and says item not found
Don't understand what you mean.
You find the settings or those are not working? What do you exactly mean?
Maybe this process needs an app and that app is not available in your country .
Maybe .
I mean to say, when ever i am trying to receive the data from other device over nfc i.e. through android beam, i am unable to receive the data and android play store pops up searching for some app and as said earlier that app is not available for my country (may be) due to which a msg pops up which says"App not available" Can anybody help me to get rid of this?
Hi Kanad,
I have tested the NFC and Wifi direct with many phones (apart from LG). When you turn on NFC, go to your gallery open a picture and now place your phone's back(as lg has nfc at its back) to the area of any other NFC enabled phone. When you do so your phone will vibrate and a message will pop on your screen stating Touch to beam. Please note our NFC only transfers photos or some website page. It is not to be confused with Samsung android beam. Our NFC uses bluetooth while Samsung uses wifi.
Coming to wifi direct. We cannot transfer files even though we connect through wifi direct to any Samsung devices. For using wifi direct we need to have a program called wifi cast or fast file transfer.
ynkamat said:
Hi Kanad,
I have tested the NFC and Wifi direct with many phones (apart from LG). When you turn on NFC, go to your gallery open a picture and now place your phone's back(as lg has nfc at its back) to the area of any other NFC enabled phone. When you do so your phone will vibrate and a message will pop on your screen stating Touch to beam. Please note our NFC only transfers photos or some website page. It is not to be confused with Samsung android beam. Our NFC uses bluetooth while Samsung uses wifi.
Coming to wifi direct. We cannot transfer files even though we connect through wifi direct to any Samsung devices. For using wifi direct we need to have a program called wifi cast or fast file transfer.
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I'm sorry for asking this stupid question, but is it possible to send or receive large files, like mkv or some sort with wifi direct?
I've tried sending some movies over wifi direct to LG L9 but always failed. I've always thought wifi direct has got the same inner working as bluetooth, is that correct?
Sorry for these silly questions, I'm quite a noob on Android.
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hernestwisnu said:
I'm sorry for asking this stupid question, but is it possible to send or receive large files, like mkv or some sort with wifi direct?
I've tried sending some movies over wifi direct to LG L9 but always failed. I've always thought wifi direct has got the same inner working as bluetooth, is that correct?
Sorry for these silly questions, I'm quite a noob on Android.
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The largest file I ever sent via Wifi Direct using Fast File Transfer is an archive file with the size of 276 MB and the transfer was successful. I haven't tried to send anything larger. Also, the transfer was from my friend's Lenovo K860 to my O4X
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hernestwisnu said:
I'm sorry for asking this stupid question, but is it possible to send or receive large files, like mkv or some sort with wifi direct?
I've tried sending some movies over wifi direct to LG L9 but always failed. I've always thought wifi direct has got the same inner working as bluetooth, is that correct?
Sorry for these silly questions, I'm quite a noob on Android.
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Hey, yes we can share files more than1 GB. You will require the right program. For Eg. Wifi Cast only supports pictures,etc. So fastfiletransfer can help you in this case.
Was trying to show someone wifi direct the other day and as it turns out it didn't want to work.
Went to album, selected a pic, pressed menu and share, scrolled down and there was no option for wifi direct.
I've also read that you have to pair with the device first.
I even tried an app that I used to use called SuperBeam which also didn't work.
Does anyone have this working?
I was attempting to send files to a Note 3, even android beam didn't work.
I don't use this feature all the time but it'd be nice to have a feature working if it's supposed to.
Cheers.
Superbeam works fine for me. 41mbps+ for large single file transfers
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Same here. I was trying to connect via Wi-Fi to my TV Sony. I paired the devices but I never get it work and never displayed any pictures on the TV or even send them via Wi-Fi, I missing the option sending via Wi-Fi too. I don't know, I just give up.
eclyptos said:
Same here. I was trying to connect via Wi-Fi to my TV Sony. I paired the devices but I never get it work and never displayed any pictures on the TV or even send them via Wi-Fi, I missing the option sending via Wi-Fi too. I don't know, I just give up.
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for me it's mixed bag. sometimes it works like a charm, just press Throw, shows available devices, chosing one of them send the file to the output (photo, video, music). and sometimes - like after disconnecting and trying to connect again few minutes later - it doesn't work at all.
The point i'm trying to make is why on earth is it on the device if the device doesn't use it? I can't understand why a company would allow a protocol to be included and then not give the ability to use it?
On the vast majority of phone all you do is pick a file and select share, then choose wifi direct and off it goes, no need to be connected to wifi, infact you wouldn't even need a sim card to do it.
Such a stupid thing to happen and a bit awkward when someone with a sammy device is showing off a feature and even though yours has it it doesn't work lol.
I found myself saying "Ok just download this app" Bit long winded isn't it? I mean click share and click wifi direct job done, what gives ?
1. Am I right that there is no way to make an ethernet connection to it? Google comes up blank. My Galaxy T700 8.4" tablet can do it, using the Samsung adapter cable (2xUSB, ethernet, power) but on the S6 only the 2xUSB works.
2. After writing some files to a flash stick plugged into a USB OTG cable (e.g. the above one) how long is it before the files are finally closed? It is suggested to unmount the USB device (in the stock file manager I assume) but that is so "1990s" Even windows XP doesn't need to do that.
3. Is there any functionality to send/receive SMS when there is no apparent GSM connection, only WIFI? After discarding a few SMS apps (mainly because they had no retries on failed sends - a real issue in UK countryside where we have poor signal) I am now using Smitten SMS which does seem to do retries. But also it has managed to send SMSs when I didn't see any signal! I did a lot of googling and could not find anything apart from cryptic references to Google Voice. I am well aware of the issues in doing texts over the internet (the phone doesn't know its # so CLI cannot work unless you configure that somewhere - the Apple I-message features needs that; no way to route the reply IF it is sent to the GSM network which is why I-message works only between two Iphones and only if both have an internet connection).
THANK YOU in advance for any information.
Great phone, BTW. Here
http://peter-ftp.co.uk/808/S6-v-808/
is a comparison of the S6 with the Nokia 808, and of two S6 camera apps.
My phone is rooted, BTW.
Is there anybody in this forum?
Re-enabling Tethering & Portable Hotspot option somehow on Stock or CM12.1/Nexus rom
Is this possible ? The third party stuff is absolutely horrible and doesn't work.
Seems they turned this flag off this from tablets with Lollipop and M while its still works for phones (if the networks allow or rooted).
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Is this possible ? The third party stuff is absolutely horrible and doesn't work.
Seems they turned this flag off this from tablets with Lollipop and M while its still works for phones (if the networks allow or rooted).
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How are you getting the internet to be shared via hotspot/tether onto the tablet if not via the WiFi?
Xplic1T said:
Is this possible ? The third party stuff is absolutely horrible and doesn't work.
Seems they turned this flag off this from tablets with Lollipop and M while its still works for phones (if the networks allow or rooted).
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Please explain what you are trying to accomplish so others are better able to assist. Are you trying to turn your device into an AP to serve out local content? What is the purpose of the tether and would it be used in conjunction with WiFi? While I don't have a solution in mind understanding what you are trying to do may surface some remedies. If the capability has been disabled in Android 5/6 as you claim then the only workaround will likely come via Xposed.
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Please explain what you are trying to accomplish so others are better able to assist. Are you trying to turn your device into an AP to serve out local content? What is the purpose of the tether and would it be used in conjunction with WiFi? While I don't have a solution in mind understanding what you are trying to do may surface some remedies. If the capability has been disabled in Android 5/6 as you claim then the only workaround will likely come via Xposed.
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Hi Davey, yes I'm trying to serve local content through a 3rd party app called KWS server. In order to do this on my other tablets, I need to enable a hotspot so that others can connect to it. This feature is invaluable to me as I make presentations that I host from an inconspicuous tablet. Google must of nixed it off the official dev path.
I've installed the XPOSED framework on the Nexus rom and they only had one plugin (X Tether I believe the name) and it didn't work.
All the 3rd party apps out there that say they do this absolutely suck.
Maybe there's some generic unofficial CM10 (Kitkat) rom out there I can try ?
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Hi Davey, yes I'm trying to serve local content through a 3rd party app called KWS server. In order to do this on my other tablets, I need to enable a hotspot so that others can connect to it. This feature is invaluable to me as I make presentations that I host from an inconspicuous tablet. Google must of nixed it off the official dev path.
I've installed the XPOSED framework on the Nexus rom and they only had one plugin (X Tether I believe the name) and it didn't work.
All the 3rd party apps out there that say they do this absolutely suck.
Maybe there's some generic unofficial CM10 (Kitkat) rom out there I can try ?
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Yep - looks like it's a goner in Android 5.1+ in the absence of a mobile radio. Tried to force it but was only successful in disabling WiFi reception and amplifying a distant hotspot that I never connect to (standard WiFi weirdness in the presence of multiple radios). No sign of a functioning AP. The code is likely there but disabled when a mobile radio is not found. Possible it could be enabled via a build.prop tweak. Spent some time searching but didn't find any promising hits. Guessing it's not a high demand item that warrants a lot of attention.
Options (don't shoot the messenger):
- keep searching for a Lollipop solution ... good luck
- snag a cheap KitKat tablet that still supports single radio tethering. Many to choose from including rootable 3rd gen HDXs which have much better specs than 2015 Fire; supports Nexus and CM ROMs. I confirmed the portable hotspot function does work on HDX Nexus. A 2013 Nexus 7 is another fine choice.
- grab an older phone with decent memory specs (eg: Moto X or mini) that will support tethering regardless if running KitKat or Lollipop. You don't need to put it on a mobile plan; just use it as a stand-alone device/server.
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Yep - looks like it's a goner in Android 5.1+ in the absence of a mobile radio. Tried to force it but was only successful in disabling WiFi reception and amplifying a distant hotspot that I never connect to (standard WiFi weirdness in the presence of multiple radios). No sign of a functioning AP. The code is likely there but disabled when a mobile radio is not found. Possible it could be enabled via a build.prop tweak. Spent some time searching but didn't find any promising hits. Guessing it's not a high demand item that warrants a lot of attention.
Options (don't shoot the messenger):
- keep searching for a Lollipop solution ... good luck
- snag a cheap KitKat tablet that still supports single radio tethering. Many to choose from including rootable 3rd gen HDXs which have much better specs than 2015 Fire; supports Nexus and CM ROMs. I confirmed the portable hotspot function does work on HDX Nexus. A 2013 Nexus 7 is another fine choice.
- grab an older phone with decent memory specs (eg: Moto X or mini) that will support tethering regardless if running KitKat or Lollipop. You don't need to put it on a mobile plan; just use it as a stand-alone device/server.
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Thanks, yeah I figured that would be the case... It's a pretty big feature for them to just take off like that without input from people.
Whats weird is that none of the 3rd party ones work at all ... even FoxFi.