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Quick questions, and forgive me if it is completely noob. First off, will the international unlocked M7 work on US ATT? ANd by work, I mean voice, text, HSPA+, and LTE all functional? And if so, other than being unlocked, is there any specific advantages in purchasing an International one vs buying an ATT one outright on no contract?
bdv11 said:
Quick questions, and forgive me if it is completely noob. First off, will the international unlocked M7 work on US ATT? ANd by work, I mean voice, text, HSPA+, and LTE all functional? And if so, other than being unlocked, is there any specific advantages in purchasing an International one vs buying an ATT one outright on no contract?
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All you will get is an unlocked device, a much higher premium to pay, and no LTE on AT&T.
crawlgsx said:
All you will get is an unlocked device, a much higher premium to pay, and no LTE on AT&T.
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I see. From reading around here a bit, I was under the impression that if I got a carrier version, I wouldnt be able to load neat roms and such due to the locked bootloader. So, in order to have any freedom to customize and retain LTE, I'd have to wait for the dev version that they are releasing?
Forgive me, Im trying to do away with years of iOS, and figure out more of the Android game!
bdv11 said:
I see. From reading around here a bit, I was under the impression that if I got a carrier version, I wouldnt be able to load neat roms and such due to the locked bootloader. So, in order to have any freedom to customize and retain LTE, I'd have to wait for the dev version that they are releasing?
Forgive me, Im trying to do away with years of iOS, and figure out more of the Android game!
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It will not make a difference if you buy the AT&T version or the Dev version really. The only difference between the 2 is that the Dev version is unlocked (carrier and bootloader) and (shouldn't) have the AT&T Bloatware. Neither is S-OFF ready from HTC.
You will be able to load custom roms in due time on any of these phones, I wouldn't worry.
What I still don't know is what AT&T is going to charge for an off-contract price. Best Buy's off contract price is higher than the Dev Version, but I suspect at AT&T it will be less. Hopefully we can find out today.
Either way the developer edition is only going to be offered in Silver so that rules it out for me anyway .
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It will not make a difference if you buy the AT&T version or the Dev version. They are both locked in that manner, the only difference between the 2 is that the Dev version is unlocked and (shouldn't) have the AT&T Bloatware.
You will be able to load custom roms in due time on any of these phones, I wouldn't worry.
What I still don't know is what AT&T is going to charge for an off-contract price. Best Buy's off contract price is higher than the Dev Version, but I suspect at AT&T it will be less. Hopefully we can find out today.
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Great man, thanks!
get the AT&T unit you will have a much higher chance of getting a newer batch
I have a international HTC One, Live in UK, on T-Mob, but my understanding is it has LTE (4G), so i dont think thats true between the ATT and the Intl . . .
dobknobby said:
I have a international HTC One, Live in UK, on T-Mob, but my understanding is it has LTE (4G), so i dont think thats true between the ATT and the Intl . . .
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I could be wrong but I am pretty sure the International One uses European LTE bands, which AT&T does not. The AT&T HTC One and Developer Editions WILL have the AT&T LTE Bands.
From HTC One spec sheet:
LTE:
EU: 800/1800/2600 MHz
US (AT&T): 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz
US (TMO): 700/AWS MHz
US (Sprint): 1900 MHz
Asia: 1800/2600 Mhz
I am pretty sure the international One carries jut the "EU" LTE Bands, which would not work with AT&T LTE.
Sorry my bad, i thought someone said that the Intl version will not have LTE, i know they both do have, but the States, Chine, Europe all have different Bands themselves. . . i believe.
Is anyone working on getting the Tmobile HSPA+ 3G spectrum up and running on the international/ At&T / Developer Edition of the HTC One?
Out of the box the unlocked versions only support Tmobile 2g Edge speeds and the newly refarmed 4g LTE on the 1900 spectrum.
The carrier branded phones are almost $150 more than the unlocked versions and the hardware is "technically" there for all of the frequencies. What are the chances that we will have a solution, similiar to the below, found on the ATT Galaxy Note 2? I'd be willing to donate for a workaround.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2068041
At a minimum you'd need s-off to flash a different radio. Until you (we) have a working method to get s-off there is zero chance of this happening.
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Im having same issues here I have 64GB Developer Edition and I'm stuck on TMobile Edge. I though this was Quad Radio
ahernandez4110 said:
Im having same issues here I have 64GB Developer Edition and I'm stuck on TMobile Edge. I though this was Quad Radio
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This was a concern of mine as I'm off contract with ATT already and may jump ship. If you look deeper than the word "quad" and actually look at the bands supported vs what the carriers use vs network coverage, you would have found out that
A) Tmo "3G/4G" runs on AWS (700/2100) (really should be called HSPA+42)
B)Tmo have refarmed a some bands to support "3G" on 1900 (HSPA+21)
C)Tmo LTE is not everywhere
which means... if you are not in a refarmed area (which again is not everywhere) you will be either on LTE or Edge.
So.... refer to the top link for hope. Which is S-off and a flash of the radios (the chip itself should have all the bands).
ehh its late... I basically repeated what the OP said.
I was under the impression that an s-on radio flash solution had been posted already.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2245615
nilism said:
I was under the impression that an s-on radio flash solution had been posted already.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2245615
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Its true, However I was told we need the T-mobile radio to use his method which makes perfect sense. So, I just got my t-mobile htc one today and id like to learn how to get my radios off my phone to share it with you guys.
Can anyone please show me step by step on how to get the radios off my phone? Will post here ASAP then you guys can test it.
Thanks
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Its true, However I was told we need the T-mobile radio to use his method which makes perfect sense. So, I just got my t-mobile htc one today and id like to learn how to get my radios off my phone to share it with you guys.
Can anyone please show me step by step on how to get the radios off my phone? Will post here ASAP then you guys can test it.
Thanks
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Lol pretty sure step two of that guide tells you how to pull the radios for backup and / or sharing. (o;
Thank me later.
Has anyone figured this out yet using the QPST method in the Qualcomm software like we do with Samsung?
Hi all,
I'm waiting patiently for my 64gb developer phone which I should be getting next week. In the meantime I've been combing through the forums trying to get as much information as I can regarding the developer's edition HTC One. When I think I got the answer I'm looking for I see something else that makes me think another way. With this thread I'm hoping to get answers in one place to avoid confusion. Someone please educate me on this phone.
1. Will I be able to get 4G LTE, and or HSPA+?
2. Unlocked bootloader means I can flash roms but not kernels? How will I know which roms/kernels are the correct ones to flash for the dev edition?
3. Has anyone achieved s-off yet and if so which method is the best and easiest?
4. Tmo is going to be my carier. Whats this about Non Tmo devices needing the Tmobile 4GLTE APN added to the phone to connect to 4G LTE? Does this mean I don't have LTE (I guess it related to 1st question). And how do I add the tmo 4gLTE APN?
5. How does insurance work with unlocked phones and who do I get it from?
Sorry for all these questions. I'm fascinated and I want to be a developer one day so I'm trying to find my way. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
saco274 said:
Hi all,
I'm waiting patiently for my 64gb developer phone which I should be getting next week. In the meantime I've been combing through the forums trying to get as much information as I can regarding the developer's edition HTC One. When I think I got the answer I'm looking for I see something else that makes me think another way. With this thread I'm hoping to get answers in one place to avoid confusion. Someone please educate me on this phone.
1. Will I be able to get 4G LTE, and or HSPA+?
2. Unlocked bootloader means I can flash roms but not kernels? How will I know which roms/kernels are the correct ones to flash for the dev edition?
3. Has anyone achieved s-off yet and if so which method is the best and easiest?
4. Tmo is going to be my carier. Whats this about Non Tmo devices needing the Tmobile 4GLTE APN added to the phone to connect to 4G LTE? Does this mean I don't have LTE (I guess it related to 1st question). And how do I add the tmo 4gLTE APN?
5. How does insurance work with unlocked phones and who do I get it from?
Sorry for all these questions. I'm fascinated and I want to be a developer one day so I'm trying to find my way. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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1. You can get lte if your in a lte area. You will get hspa if your in a Markey with the 1900 band
2. You can flash roms kernels and radios now with s on
3. Prob no need for s off anymore
4. Put in the SIM should be auto or just Google it
5. Squaretrade.com
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I am still struggling, some people say that you will never get 3g, but yes on 4g, some other says that you will never get both of them since you are Tmobile. I can tell you, I have Tmobile wiht my HTC One Dev edition and I am getting HSDPA, and I pretty happy wiht that, but I am also worried why we are not getting 4G, so I also have started reading about that, the specs are almost the same, but it looks like the problem is the radio installed in the dev edition. So it look like if some dev are able to pull the radio out of the Tmobile HTC One version and try to adapt it or maybe directly installed in out dev edition it will work. I heard this a couple of days ago from another topic in this forum.
Good luck:good:
So 4glte runs on AWS 1700 and dev version doesn't support it unless a developer figures out how to flash it on the dev phone. Do you think that possibility is high? Thanks for the info.
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Wow... when you say neither that's pretty scary. I certainly hope that's not the case. I live in NJ in a 1900 rich area. I really do hope we can get LTE and hspa+. I told my wife we are getting 4g with these new phones but I guess I read wrong. We're coming from Sprint so even if we get hspa+ it's a major improvement.
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So 4glte runs on AWS 1700 and dev version doesn't support it unless a developer figures out how to flash it on the dev phone. Do you think that possibility is high? Thanks for the info.
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So I heard that the problem with dev version is that it has the compatibility built in hardware, but the radio which comes with the dev version doesn't support it, the problem here is that I don't know if flashing the radio from Tmobile HTC one will brick our phone.
If some developer could come to the thread and give us some answer, I don't have enough knowledge about how radios works.
flipy34 said:
So I heard that the problem with dev version is that it has the compatibility built in hardware, but the radio which comes with the dev version doesn't support it, the problem here is that I don't know if flashing the radio from Tmobile HTC one will brick our phone.
If some developer could come to the thread and give us some answer, I don't have enough knowledge about how radios works.
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You can flash it without bricking, but based on a thread in here that it doesn't work. There might be addition files other than the radio or something.
based on this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2223236 we have the same devices with T-Mobile and AT&T
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2248586 is where some people have tried and it booted, but they don't get HSPA+ on non-refarmed areas.
Tidbits said:
You can flash it without bricking, but based on a thread in here that it doesn't work. There might be addition files other than the radio or something.
based on this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2223236 we have the same devices with T-Mobile and AT&T
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2248586 is where some people have tried and it booted, but they don't get HSPA+ on non-refarmed areas.
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I suspect that we are going to need S-Off in order to get this working, assuming that there is not in fact some hardware difference between the dev and TMO versions. I've read the threads, but I don't know where they get their information. I have not seen anything from HTC on which hardware is in the various phones.
stevedebi said:
I suspect that we are going to need S-Off in order to get this working, assuming that there is not in fact some hardware difference between the dev and TMO versions. I've read the threads, but I don't know where they get their information. I have not seen anything from HTC on which hardware is in the various phones.
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I have not either, but based on current information to go by that's all we have. I think the only way we could tell for sure is a complete tear down of each model, but so far that has not been accomplished. If there are any variations in the hardware we'd see them and could say "It isn't going to work". If there is no difference then it has to be software/firmware thing.
First post, noob post, searched the forum found things that are similar to my question but not a definite answer.
I just got my hands on an HTC ONE 64GB Developer Edition from the US and the 4G LTE frequency on it is 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz
And where I currently live the 4G LTE connectivity is 800/1800/2600 MHz.
I did some reading and found out that my device is considered as HTC ONE M7UL
And the UL falls within the 801s category and in turn that supports my 4G LTE category.
Added to that it has the same modem of MDM9125.
Taking that into consideration, is it possible to do whatever to make my phone's frequency compatible with my service provider. As for my understanding the frequencies in the device have been blocked for the US market, can I do something to make it work?
I have never flashed, rooted or did anything to an Android phone because I am completely lost and this is my first Android device coming from an iPhone.
So, your help will be much appreciated into guiding me with the correct information to help me out.
The previous information was from this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2223236
Thank you to OP.
I haven't seen any posts that have tried flashing radios to change the bands supported. I'm still sceptical that it could work.
Plus, I think you read the table wrong, and I know of at least one error in that table.
BenPope said:
I haven't seen any posts that have tried flashing radios to change the bands supported. I'm still sceptical that it could work.
Plus, I think you read the table wrong, and I know of at least one error in that table.
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Thank you for your reply...Well, I'm not certain of the error you are talking about but at least it is worth a shot to flash it!!
Will save a lot of users the hassle of waiting for another version of the phone!
StrikerAMG said:
First post, noob post, searched the forum found things that are similar to my question but not a definite answer.
I just got my hands on an HTC ONE 64GB Developer Edition from the US and the 4G LTE frequency on it is 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz
And where I currently live the 4G LTE connectivity is 800/1800/2600 MHz.
I did some reading and found out that my device is considered as HTC ONE M7UL
And the UL falls within the 801s category and in turn that supports my 4G LTE category.
Added to that it has the same modem of MDM9125.
Taking that into consideration, is it possible to do whatever to make my phone's frequency compatible with my service provider. As for my understanding the frequencies in the device have been blocked for the US market, can I do something to make it work?
I have never flashed, rooted or did anything to an Android phone because I am completely lost and this is my first Android device coming from an iPhone.
So, your help will be much appreciated into guiding me with the correct information to help me out.
The previous information was from this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2223236
Thank you to OP.
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From what I have read, the dev has a different supporting chip for the bands than the international version. I don't think flashing anything will help.
stevedebi said:
From what I have read, the dev has a different supporting chip for the bands than the international version. I don't think flashing anything will help.
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Oh well, I'm not much of a developer. I guess I will sell this one and get another one!
Thank you for your help guys!
StrikerAMG said:
Oh well, I'm not much of a developer. I guess I will sell this one and get another one!
Thank you for your help guys!
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If only I don't have an HTC One I'm willing to get that. I too have those LTE frequencies but I'm willing to sacrifice LTE for an additional storage. But too late already have a 32gb EU version which has matching 4g frequencies for your network but meh! Only 32gb storage.
Riyal said:
If only I don't have an HTC One I'm willing to get that. I too have those LTE frequencies but I'm willing to sacrifice LTE for an additional storage. But too late already have a 32gb EU version which has matching 4g frequencies for your network but meh! Only 32gb storage.
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I just put an order for a Black HTC One 64GB with matching LTE frequencies. It covers 1800/2600MHz which is where I live; Bahrain is under the 1800 range.
I can never downgrade from a 64GB haha.. My ONE X+ was FULL.. 32GB would drive me crazy haha!!
Now, I think I'll hang around this form to do some flashing business, sounds like fun haha!!!
Anyway, our LTE network isn't that great because they just started up a few months back and the reception is rather poor but it spikes up to 60mbps!
StrikerAMG said:
Oh well, I'm not much of a developer. I guess I will sell this one and get another one!
Thank you for your help guys!
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That would be safe, but you may want to wait a couple of weeks to see if a solution develops to flash radios.
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stevedebi said:
That would be safe, but you may want to wait a couple of weeks to see if a solution develops to flash radios.
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I'm pretty sure it is possible because it's a UL device and shares all the same features that the US/Canada/Asia/Middle East/Australia/Europe have got... So, that shouldn't be an issue.. It's a tiny little thing inside the system that needs to be smacked with a nice flash.
Hopefully, someone comes up with this ASAP and makes life much more easier to buy a device from anywhere in the world and not get screwed like me!!:good:
StrikerAMG said:
I'm pretty sure it is possible because it's a UL device and shares all the same features that the US/Canada/Asia/Middle East/Australia/Europe have got... So, that shouldn't be an issue.. It's a tiny little thing inside the system that needs to be smacked with a nice flash.
Hopefully, someone comes up with this ASAP and makes life much more easier to buy a device from anywhere in the world and not get screwed like me!!:good:
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There was a post that showed pictures of a couple of different variants of the One. They had a different support chip that worked with the generic radio chip. So there is a possibility that hardware may keep the variants from cross flashing. We just don't know. It is also possible that it is simply software flashing somewhere in the various partitions.
If we get a US T-Mobile RRU and it gets to be flashed over a different model, then we will know.
stevedebi said:
There was a post that showed pictures of a couple of different variants of the One. They had a different support chip that worked with the generic radio chip. So there is a possibility that hardware may keep the variants from cross flashing. We just don't know. It is also possible that it is simply software flashing somewhere in the various partitions.
If we get a US T-Mobile RRU and it gets to be flashed over a different model, then we will know.
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Awesome. I'm also interested in this. I got the US Developer version but live in Asia (but travel to the US often). Would be nice to use LTE in both places with the same phone. I absolutely love this phone though. Much nicer than my S3...
drfonta said:
Awesome. I'm also interested in this. I got the US Developer version but live in Asia (but travel to the US often). Would be nice to use LTE in both places with the same phone. I absolutely love this phone though. Much nicer than my S3...
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I went with the TMO model rather than Dev, but it would be great to be able to flash for whatever region of the world that is desired. Hopefully it will happen!
[Q] Do you have this problem as well then ?
StrikerAMG said:
First post, noob post, searched the forum found things that are similar to my question but not a definite answer.
I just got my hands on an HTC ONE 64GB Developer Edition from the US and the 4G LTE frequency on it is 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz
And where I currently live the 4G LTE connectivity is 800/1800/2600 MHz.
I did some reading and found out that my device is considered as HTC ONE M7UL
And the UL falls within the 801s category and in turn that supports my 4G LTE category.
Added to that it has the same modem of MDM9125.
Taking that into consideration, is it possible to do whatever to make my phone's frequency compatible with my service provider. As for my understanding the frequencies in the device have been blocked for the US market, can I do something to make it work?
I have never flashed, rooted or did anything to an Android phone because I am completely lost and this is my first Android device coming from an iPhone.
So, your help will be much appreciated into guiding me with the correct information to help me out.
The previous information was from this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2223236
Thank you to OP.
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Greetings,
I wonder... if you own a Developers Edition outside the US, and basically have the same frequency bands as we have over here, would you perchance also be having the issue described in this thread ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44218727
Or is it working just fine for you ?
Of course, these questions are useless if you have gotten rid of it already
Kind regards,
Ghost.
I was wondering if we can flash the T-mobile radio on a Rogers LTE enabled HTC ONE to make it workable for Mobilicity or Wind as they are AWS frequency carriers like T-mobile.
Will this work.
Im going to buy one, but it is really hard to find a T-mobile HTC one here.
ali.abid said:
I was wondering if we can flash the T-mobile radio on a Rogers LTE enabled HTC ONE to make it workable for Mobilicity or Wind as they are AWS frequency carriers like T-mobile.
Will this work.
Im going to buy one, but it is really hard to find a T-mobile HTC one here.
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Theoretically it's possible, but it hasn't happened till now. I'm eagerly waiting for this too! Guys here at XDA are trying hard to make it work (Basically they're trying to get an Internatioanal/AT&T version work with T-Mobile AWS). I'm optimistic, but not holding breath though.
yaaa
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2315880&page=25I'm waiting as well..I hope they can pull it off.
Haven't seen much progress lately although