I have a couple of questions, which hopefully someone or some peeps on here can provide some answers.
This whole S-Off thing, just to establish once and for all does your phone need to have the following done to it just for this one thing?:
Bootloader Unlocked
Rooted
Clockwork Recovery Installed
SuperUser Installed
CID Changed
If so this seems like a hell of a lot of effort, just for this one thing to be done.
The other thing I have noticed, is that even though there are some good nOObs guides on this forum, it maybe an idea at some point in the future for some YouTube videos.
Thanks.
ratedr75 said:
I have a couple of questions, which hopefully someone or some peeps on here can provide some answers.
This whole S-Off thing, just to establish once and for all does your phone need to have the following done to it just for this one thing?:
Bootloader Unlocked
Rooted
Clockwork Recovery Installed
SuperUser Installed
CID Changed
If so this seems like a hell of a lot of effort, just for this one thing to be done.
The other thing I have noticed, is that even though there are some good nOObs guides on this forum, it maybe an idea at some point in the future for some YouTube videos.
Thanks.
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You don't need any of those to s-off. You don't need a video, although there are probably some available - just read the guide carefully: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314582
Also, you need to ask yourself if you actually need s-off in the first place..
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Are only few commands.
In 15 min, you have an HTC One s-offed with the recovery and another cid
Hey everyone, i am new to this XDA developers site, but have many years of experience with android devices, my latest one though, well is the htc one, i would like to know, is there any risk to using the ''Firewater'' S-OFF Command, i am just wondering this because i would like to unlock the full capability of this wonderful device, and i only have it a week or two, so i would not like to damage the device by only having it 2 weeks, i love it, but would like to unlock the full potential of it, and i also love sense and stock android, so would be seriously interested.
Bottom Line, Is there any risk of using the ''Firewater'' S-OFF Tool?
Thanks very much,
Ir1shwall3.
Ir1shWall3 said:
Hey everyone, i am new to this XDA developers site, but have many years of experience with android devices, my latest one though, well is the htc one, i would like to know, is there any risk to using the ''Firewater'' S-OFF Command, i am just wondering this because i would like to unlock the full capability of this wonderful device, and i only have it a week or two, so i would not like to damage the device by only having it 2 weeks, i love it, but would like to unlock the full potential of it, and i also love sense and stock android, so would be seriously interested.
Bottom Line, Is there any risk of using the ''Firewater'' S-OFF Tool?
Thanks very much,
Ir1shwall3.
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nope, no risk, either it will work or it wont, if it fails then there is a new one called Sunshine s-off which apparently works on the M7 but you have to pay for it, try firewater first.
I'm still not persuaded, I'm afraid it will harm it and damage my device, maybe I'll do it in the future, but thanks very much for your reply, I gave you a thanks on your answer?
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Ir1shWall3 said:
I'm still not persuaded, I'm afraid it will harm it and damage my device, maybe I'll do it in the future, but thanks very much for your reply, I gave you a thanks on your answer?
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like I said, it wont hurt it at all, it will either work or it wont, read the s-off thread if you don't believe me, ive ran it 50 times to try and get s-off and ended up doing it by java card because firewater failed. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2632351
that was before sunshine came about, if I was still s-on, I would hesitate to pay for and run sunshine right now.
Ir1shWall3 said:
Hey everyone, i am new to this XDA developers site, but have many years of experience with android devices, my latest one though, well is the htc one, i would like to know, is there any risk to using the ''Firewater'' S-OFF Command, i am just wondering this because i would like to unlock the full capability of this wonderful device, and i only have it a week or two, so i would not like to damage the device by only having it 2 weeks, i love it, but would like to unlock the full potential of it, and i also love sense and stock android, so would be seriously interested.
Bottom Line, Is there any risk of using the ''Firewater'' S-OFF Tool?
Thanks very much,
Ir1shwall3.
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having S-Off etc is the best ever i have done on my htc couldnt imagine now to have s-on again its the ultimate lol.
firewater works however it did take quite some trys back-then before it succeeded, i did alot of reading before i decided
wanting having s-off, pros/cons but conclusion now and after the reading before s-off was a no-brainer (for me)
i remember having the same thoughts to about the bricking but after reading through many topics here and other sites
i wasent that scared of it mostly nervous if it worked or not xD as the guy above says, either it works or not. for me it took many tries to as said, but ones having s-off
you wont look back i believe i guess its a preference since we all have our personal favorite if wanting s-on or off.
i would "advice" reading more through about using firewater getting inputs, i had same thoughts as you with using it at first as long with rooting etc
and i never knew or tried those things actually before i joined this awesome forum and started to use it regular. i see you are quite into the android
from your text to thats good advantage and should help as well with choosing to use or not
im aware of my low post count xD but i dont post/reply just to get posts up, only if im able to give input there may help in some way
either way, wishing you goodluck if you decided to go for it!
hah as Seanie280672 says to it might take alot of tries, its just keep going eventually it should succeed
Thanksks for the information, so it will not brick or will there be very little chance of bricking?
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Ir1shWall3 said:
Thanksks for the information, so it will not brick or will there be very little chance of bricking?
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just remember s-off actually means security off and opens up the nand to full write, its no longer protected.
therefore if you try to flash something that's not for your particular device, it will no longer fail with an error, it will flash and brick your device, s-off itself doesn't brick, the user bricks by flashing the wrong things, so make sure you know what you are doing before you go s-off, if you don't really need it, or don't know what you are doing then don't bother, there's so many users on here that don't actually know how to even identify their correct RUU for instance, and that's simple stuff, but downloading the wrong one and flashing parts of it that don't belong to your phone = a brick, but again, that's the user, not s-off.
on the other hand however, s-off can help you out a lot, take a look at the below thread, he flashed the wrong software whilst s-on and has knackered his phone up, if he was s-off then it would be easily fixable with a simple downgrade of HBOOT, but because he's s-on he now has a brick: http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one/help/help-active-cmdline-overflow-1025-bytes-t2841484
S-off is complete control of your phone. Which is the dangerous part. The process to s-off is simple and will not brick you. Just be sure to remember your model ID (like mine is M7_wlv) because all ruu files will state what model number it is and for what firmware.
The reason to want s-off? Search your specific device's ruu files and see if there is one for your version or high that is officially signed by HTC. If there is none, you will want s-off to downgrade or flash the unsigned ruu. As S-on, you cannot downgrade firmware or flash unsigned ruus
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Guys I have an international HTC one with latest ota update and h -boot(1.57.0). If I decide to leave it s-on will I be able to change os from sense to cm. I'm worried that my phone might get a kernel problem since I always had to flash the boot img to get another Rom working...just want to know if I'll be able to flash all Rome below or above my current firmware?
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Guys I have an international HTC one with latest ota update and h -boot(1.57.0). If I decide to leave it s-on will I be able to change os from sense to cm. I'm worried that my phone might get a kernel problem since I always had to flash the boot img to get another Rom working...just want to know if I'll be able to flash all Rome below or above my current firmware?
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you can flash any custom rom as long as its for your phone, even if your s-on, you just have to be HTC Dev unlocked, just make sure its for your phone and read the OP and instructions, the guy who bricked his recently flashed CM11 designed for a completely different phone and the kernel messed one of his partitions up, he didn't read the details and instructions, it couldn't be fixed because he wasn't s-off, the fix only works if your on HBOOT 1.44 and you cant downgrade that without s-off.
yasir4abbas said:
Guys I have an international HTC one with latest ota update and h -boot(1.57.0). If I decide to leave it s-on will I be able to change os from sense to cm. I'm worried that my phone might get a kernel problem since I always had to flash the boot img to get another Rom working...just want to know if I'll be able to flash all Rome below or above my current firmware?
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Yeah, as long as the software is for your device it will be perfect, but you'll need to know the actual model number of your device, mine is m7_ul, but yours might be just m7, so be weary of what yours is, the best way of finding this out is going into the bootloader and looking at the first characters on the first line, i'm good at all this stuff, its that im just weary of making my device an expensive piece of metal and glass, if you need help, you can always send me a message
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Yeah, as long as the software is for your device it will be perfect, but you'll need to know the actual model number of your device, mine is m7_ul, but yours might be just m7, so be weary of what yours is, the best way of finding this out is going into the bootloader and looking at the first characters on the first line, i'm good at all this stuff, its that im just weary of making my device an expensive piece of metal and glass, if you need help, you can always send me a message
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that's not completely true, a custom rom built for M7_UL will work just fine on the M7_U, they are the same device, just one has LTE and the other doesn't, just means those parts of the rom wont be installed.
the only rom's you cant use are HTC ONE M7 custom rom';s built for Spirint and Verizon devices.
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that's not completely true, a custom rom built for M7_UL will work just fine on the M7_U, they are the same device, just one has LTE and the other doesn't, just means those parts of the rom wont be installed.
the only rom's you cant use are HTC ONE M7 custom rom';s built for Spirint and Verizon devices.
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Ah right! I guess the ul has 4G? You learn something new everyday!
Initial Disclaimer
I am tech savvy, but I am an Android newbie. So yes, I mess things up. Sort of a natural part of life I guess. I have read as much information as I can and decifered as much of that as I can.
I am in no way asking a question out of pure laziness, I simply cannot find a solution to my problem.
Phone Specs
HTC One (M7)
CDMA-Sprint as the carrier
OS-
HBOOT-1.56.0000
Radio-1.00.20.1100
The Story
Okay so I had Sprint a while back, hated it and recently decided to switch my HTC One to Expo Mobile. Problem is I had Viper OS and it would not update so all I had was Talk/Text. So I figured I'd get stock android back on the device. this is when things started going awry. The phone <was> unlocked. S-On. I found some guides to install the factory RUU on the device and was told to lock it. Well now I have no OS and a locked device. No RUU I try is working and I have tried several Sprint RUUs. I am getting Error 155, so I imagine my version of HBOOT is incompatible? Anyway I haven't been able to find a way to root it without an OS installed.
Currently showing Tampered, Relocked and Security Warning. I can mess with it in Fastboot but ADB won't see the device at all. Again, I am a phone newbie so any help would be much appreciated. Am I totally boned or do I have options.?
Anyway, I wouldn't bother you guys if it was something I could possible understand enough to fix it. Seems like messing with it in the first place was a bad idea, although a learning experience.
Sanemon said:
Initial Disclaimer
I am tech savvy, but I am an Android newbie. So yes, I mess things up. Sort of a natural part of life I guess. I have read as much information as I can and decifered as much of that as I can.
I am in no way asking a question out of pure laziness, I simply cannot find a solution to my problem.
Phone Specs
HTC One (M7)
CDMA-Sprint as the carrier
OS-
HBOOT-1.56.0000
Radio-1.00.20.1100
The Story
Okay so I had Sprint a while back, hated it and recently decided to switch my HTC One to Expo Mobile. Problem is I had Viper OS and it would not update so all I had was Talk/Text. So I figured I'd get stock android back on the device. this is when things started going awry. The phone <was> unlocked. S-On. I found some guides to install the factory RUU on the device and was told to lock it. Well now I have no OS and a locked device. No RUU I try is working and I have tried several Sprint RUUs. I am getting Error 155, so I imagine my version of HBOOT is incompatible? Anyway I haven't been able to find a way to root it without an OS installed.
Currently showing Tampered, Relocked and Security Warning. I can mess with it in Fastboot but ADB won't see the device at all. Again, I am a phone newbie so any help would be much appreciated. Am I totally boned or do I have options.?
Anyway, I wouldn't bother you guys if it was something I could possible understand enough to fix it. Seems like messing with it in the first place was a bad idea, although a learning experience.
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Maybe I Spoke Too Soon
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2658910 seemed to resolve everything
Now I am stuck at the activation screen for Sprint
Guys, I'm at my wits end
I decided to convert my M7 to the Google Play Edition, and got as far as unlocking the boot loader, installing TWRP, and rooting.
Unfortunately, that's where the fun ended, because the next step is S-Off, and I have the 1.57 version which prevents me from doing that.
I know I can use sunshine, but it's too much to spend on this old phone.
It seems that I can still flash a GPE Rom without S-Off, but I've been reading about this for two days, and it's a steep learning curve and I am overloaded with jargon.
I'm terrified that if I follow the wrong (or an outdated) guide, I'll brick my phone.
I have finally admitted to myself that it is time to ask the experts for help.
I am reasonably adept at following guides, so I'm not asking to have my hand held throughout the whole process, but it would be a real help if someone could briefly outline the process or point me to the correct tutorial for my specific situation.
I'd like to install the latest stock GPE Rom, and once again, it must be a version that I can install S-ON.
Thanks
DoctorBeat said:
Guys, I'm at my wits end
I decided to convert my M7 to the Google Play Edition, and got as far as unlocking the boot loader, installing TWRP, and rooting.
Unfortunately, that's where the fun ended, because the next step is S-Off, and I have the 1.57 version which prevents me from doing that.
I know I can use sunshine, but it's too much to spend on this old phone.
It seems that I can still flash a GPE Rom without S-Off, but I've been reading about this for two days, and it's a steep learning curve and I am overloaded with jargon.
I'm terrified that if I follow the wrong (or an outdated) guide, I'll brick my phone.
I have finally admitted to myself that it is time to ask the experts for help.
I am reasonably adept at following guides, so I'm not asking to have my hand held throughout the whole process, but it would be a real help if someone could briefly outline the process or point me to the correct tutorial for my specific situation.
I'd like to install the latest stock GPE Rom, and once again, it must be a version that I can install S-ON.
Thanks
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The GPE from @santod040 will work. Make sure your on the newest firmware and just flash like any rom
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Ok thanks.
What if I'm not on the newest firmware (I don't think I am)?
Permission to monitor the thread. I too like OP, stuck with S-On hboot 1.57. Will save up $25 just in case...
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It's a difficult choice whether to spend the $25 on sunshine.
For a new phone, I would do it in a heartbeat, but for an older phone like the M7, $25 is about 25% of what the phone is worth.
I read a little about sunshine, and I understand why the devs charge for it. I just wish there was a sliding scale in cost depending on the model/age of the phone. They would probably make more money that way, because the cost/benefit decreases with the age of the phone.
If it was cheaper for older devices, they'd make a killing with ebay sellers trying to add value to their inventory.
I'd happily pay $5 or $10, but at $25, I might as well save the money towards a newer phone .