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Hi,
I am thinking about rooting my HTC Raider (Bell) X710a. I am, however, unable to find a simple enough method.
I came across this tool for the HTC Vivid (ATT) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1498003 And was wondering if I could use the tool on my HTC Raider.
If Not, Is there a super simple way to root my phone? I am really new to smartphones and am also fairly new to technology in general
Any Help would be greatly appreciated and thanked!
That's the method I used. I have the raider on rogers. I'm pretty sure it works for yours to. You have to unlock the bootloader first tho.
By the way that method is very simple. It doesn't get any easier in my opinion. Watch his video and follow the steps.
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well when i did it it really didnt root it but unlock bootloader and flash the wildchild recovery when i go into hboot it says S-On so im guessing i didnt root it at all with the tool but i was able to flash a custom recoveyr
Kurrytacos said:
well when i did it it really didnt root it but unlock bootloader and flash the wildchild recovery when i go into hboot it says S-On so im guessing i didnt root it at all with the tool but i was able to flash a custom recoveyr
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It won't say s-off even if you root the phone. You have to take certain steps to get s-off which is being worked on now. You should still be able to root your phone through wild child recovery. The option is there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1416836&page=31
Go here, a video shows you how to root using the recovery.
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Mr Patchy Patch said:
That's the method I used. I have the raider on rogers. I'm pretty sure it works for yours to. You have to unlock the bootloader first tho.
By the way that method is very simple. It doesn't get any easier in my opinion. Watch his video and follow the steps.
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First of all, Thanks.
How to unlock bootloader? Only option on HTC Dev is For Vivid or other supported phones... Please help....!
I'm pretty sure you just click "Other Device" at the bottom.
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Mihir1997 said:
First of all, Thanks.
How to unlock bootloader? Only option on HTC Dev is For Vivid or other supported phones... Please help....!
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Choose the vivid. It's the same phone. Do not click other device
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to Mr Patchy Patch...
sir perhaps you'd be able to help me out since i got the phone from rogers as well. so i did try to follow this tool and watch the video, but to no avail, still im not able to root my htc raider
now the video doesnt seem like a step by step tutorial for me so i just did exactly wht he was sayin. now due to prev attemt before using this tool, i was only successful with unlocking my bootloader; so i skiped the part where i have to unlock it.
i was able to flash the CWM 5.5.0.4 and used the backup/restore to make sure if anything happen i'd be bale to restore my phone. after that i went straight to permroot, and all i got on the promt command was some adb stuff out of date. i assumed maybe i had to flash kernel first to make it work, but thats the part where i got stock on the htc white screen logo. im not sure what i missed; maybe you could help me out and give me a step by step procedure...
i could really use some help
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JohnL_83 said:
to Mr Patchy Patch...
sir perhaps you'd be able to help me out since i got the phone from rogers as well. so i did try to follow this tool and watch the video, but to no avail, still im not able to root my htc raider
now the video doesnt seem like a step by step tutorial for me so i just did exactly wht he was sayin. now due to prev attemt before using this tool, i was only successful with unlocking my bootloader; so i skiped the part where i have to unlock it.
i was able to flash the CWM 5.5.0.4 and used the backup/restore to make sure if anything happen i'd be bale to restore my phone. after that i went straight to permroot, and all i got on the promt command was some adb stuff out of date. i assumed maybe i had to flash kernel first to make it work, but thats the part where i got stock on the htc white screen logo. im not sure what i missed; maybe you could help me out and give me a step by step procedure...
i could really use some help
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Hey pm me if you have not successfully unlocked and rooted
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Hi - so I recently installed AR HD 11.5, but I'm wondering now that I've done that is there any compelling reason to re-lock the bootloader? What about un-rooting... any reason to do that after I've done what I needed to whilst being rooted?
Finally, a couple of noobish questions... 1) what's the difference between unlocking the bootloader & S-ON/S-OFF? I guess I was thinking they were one and the same thing, but some of the reading I've done imply they are in fact different things. If someone could please provide a brief explanation I would appreciate it. 2) why are some people concerned about being able to flash the latest OTA update if they have a custom ROM installed? I mean, won't any custom ROM pretty quickly catch up or even surpass the latest available OTA update? For example, that's one of the reasons I chose to go with AR HD because it's already using 4.2.2 instead of 4.1.2 that came with my phone.
Thanks in advance
Drvylyne said:
Hi - so I recently installed AR HD 11.5, but I'm wondering now that I've done that is there any compelling reason to re-lock the bootloader? What about un-rooting... any reason to do that after I've done what I needed to whilst being rooted?
Finally, a couple of noobish questions... 1) what's the difference between unlocking the bootloader & S-ON/S-OFF? I guess I was thinking they were one and the same thing, but some of the reading I've done imply they are in fact different things. If someone could please provide a brief explanation I would appreciate it. 2) why are some people concerned about being able to flash the latest OTA update if they have a custom ROM installed? I mean, won't any custom ROM pretty quickly catch up or even surpass the latest available OTA update? For example, that's one of the reasons I chose to go with AR HD because it's already using 4.2.2 instead of 4.1.2 that came with my phone.
Thanks in advance
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1. sOFF permits various additional commands like fastboot flash etc.
In short you get even more freedom
Search on google :- ''why do we need to sOFF'' there is a link on ARHD blog that explains this in detail
2. The answer to your 2nd question is very simple.
To get back to full stock- as if you havent done anything to it(no root sOFF unlock etc.) So as to gain warrenty
Hit thanks if i helped you
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prunzzz said:
1. sOFF permits various additional commands like fastboot flash etc.
In short you get even more freedom
Search on google :- ''why do we need to sOFF'' there is a link on ARHD blog that explains this in detail
2. The answer to your 2nd question is very simple.
To get back to full stock- as if you havent done anything to it(no root sOFF unlock etc.) So as to gain warrenty
Hit thanks if i helped you
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I did some more reading on S-Off as you suggested and it doesn't sound necessary or really worthwhile to me. As long as I can put a custom ROM on, as I've already done, then I don't see the need for S-Off as it sounds like it's just inviting trouble if you don't know what you're doing (which I admittedly don't).
Also, I don't see why anyone would ever want to go back to full stock. I read that even if you unlock and put a custom ROM on your phone that it is still covered under warranty and that it's up to the manufacturer and/or carrier to prove that the act of doing one of those things is what actually caused the phone to malfunction thus requiring warranty repair.
Drvylyne said:
I did some more reading on S-Off as you suggested and it doesn't sound necessary or really worthwhile to me. As long as I can put a custom ROM on, as I've already done, then I don't see the need for S-Off as it sounds like it's just inviting trouble if you don't know what you're doing (which I admittedly don't).
Also, I don't see why anyone would ever want to go back to full stock. I read that even if you unlock and put a custom ROM on your phone that it is still covered under warranty and that it's up to the manufacturer and/or carrier to prove that the act of doing one of those things is what actually caused the phone to malfunction thus requiring warranty repair.
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90% of people have no need for s off...since HTC let us install kernels via recovery ...now barely any people need s off... I think in Europe it doesn't matter if you unlocked and etc..you're still covered... Here in the states ...they can be a holes
I used S-Off to convert my AT&T One software to Developer edition software, then returned it to S-On. Now running totally stock developer version software, eliminates AT&T bloat and hoping I get updates a bit sooner than I would have with AT&T version.
With S-OFF you can flash kernels from the phone. S-ON you would have to do it maunally via fastboot.
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Drvylyne said:
I did some more reading on S-Off as you suggested and it doesn't sound necessary or really worthwhile to me. As long as I can put a custom ROM on, as I've already done, then I don't see the need for S-Off as it sounds like it's just inviting trouble if you don't know what you're doing (which I admittedly don't).
Also, I don't see why anyone would ever want to go back to full stock. I read that even if you unlock and put a custom ROM on your phone that it is still covered under warranty and that it's up to the manufacturer and/or carrier to prove that the act of doing one of those things is what actually caused the phone to malfunction thus requiring warranty repair.
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So you got the answer of your 1st question
Now the answer for 2nd one is very simple, though what you said about warrenty is right,
But still many times its always better to have a full stock for warrenty or replacement (by "better" i mean you dont have to prove anything to the service center)
Hit THANKS if i helped you
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squabbi said:
With S-OFF you can flash kernels from the phone. S-ON you would have to do it maunally via fastboot.
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Wrong I believe with updated HTC dev for the one...HTC unlocked that for us
Basically don't S off if you don't know what it does. It bypasses security checks and allows access to all phone partitions that if applyed wrong could brick your phone. Just flashing roms doesn't require s off
Example of mistake
Fastboot flash hboot recovery.img
This would brick your phone if you had s off, s on would deny write access!!
IF YOUR recive HELP FROM SOMEONE BE GRATEFUL AND HIT THANKS!!!
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a box of kittens said:
Wrong I believe with updated HTC dev for the one...HTC unlocked that for us
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Oh sorry. I was basing that off the One X. I S-OFF'd my One because I thought that without S-OFF I couldn't flash a kernel.
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Hey everyone, i am new to this XDA developers site, but have many years of experience with android devices, my latest one though, well is the htc one, i would like to know, is there any risk to using the ''Firewater'' S-OFF Command, i am just wondering this because i would like to unlock the full capability of this wonderful device, and i only have it a week or two, so i would not like to damage the device by only having it 2 weeks, i love it, but would like to unlock the full potential of it, and i also love sense and stock android, so would be seriously interested.
Bottom Line, Is there any risk of using the ''Firewater'' S-OFF Tool?
Thanks very much,
Ir1shwall3.
Ir1shWall3 said:
Hey everyone, i am new to this XDA developers site, but have many years of experience with android devices, my latest one though, well is the htc one, i would like to know, is there any risk to using the ''Firewater'' S-OFF Command, i am just wondering this because i would like to unlock the full capability of this wonderful device, and i only have it a week or two, so i would not like to damage the device by only having it 2 weeks, i love it, but would like to unlock the full potential of it, and i also love sense and stock android, so would be seriously interested.
Bottom Line, Is there any risk of using the ''Firewater'' S-OFF Tool?
Thanks very much,
Ir1shwall3.
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nope, no risk, either it will work or it wont, if it fails then there is a new one called Sunshine s-off which apparently works on the M7 but you have to pay for it, try firewater first.
I'm still not persuaded, I'm afraid it will harm it and damage my device, maybe I'll do it in the future, but thanks very much for your reply, I gave you a thanks on your answer?
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Ir1shWall3 said:
I'm still not persuaded, I'm afraid it will harm it and damage my device, maybe I'll do it in the future, but thanks very much for your reply, I gave you a thanks on your answer?
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like I said, it wont hurt it at all, it will either work or it wont, read the s-off thread if you don't believe me, ive ran it 50 times to try and get s-off and ended up doing it by java card because firewater failed. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2632351
that was before sunshine came about, if I was still s-on, I would hesitate to pay for and run sunshine right now.
Ir1shWall3 said:
Hey everyone, i am new to this XDA developers site, but have many years of experience with android devices, my latest one though, well is the htc one, i would like to know, is there any risk to using the ''Firewater'' S-OFF Command, i am just wondering this because i would like to unlock the full capability of this wonderful device, and i only have it a week or two, so i would not like to damage the device by only having it 2 weeks, i love it, but would like to unlock the full potential of it, and i also love sense and stock android, so would be seriously interested.
Bottom Line, Is there any risk of using the ''Firewater'' S-OFF Tool?
Thanks very much,
Ir1shwall3.
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having S-Off etc is the best ever i have done on my htc couldnt imagine now to have s-on again its the ultimate lol.
firewater works however it did take quite some trys back-then before it succeeded, i did alot of reading before i decided
wanting having s-off, pros/cons but conclusion now and after the reading before s-off was a no-brainer (for me)
i remember having the same thoughts to about the bricking but after reading through many topics here and other sites
i wasent that scared of it mostly nervous if it worked or not xD as the guy above says, either it works or not. for me it took many tries to as said, but ones having s-off
you wont look back i believe i guess its a preference since we all have our personal favorite if wanting s-on or off.
i would "advice" reading more through about using firewater getting inputs, i had same thoughts as you with using it at first as long with rooting etc
and i never knew or tried those things actually before i joined this awesome forum and started to use it regular. i see you are quite into the android
from your text to thats good advantage and should help as well with choosing to use or not
im aware of my low post count xD but i dont post/reply just to get posts up, only if im able to give input there may help in some way
either way, wishing you goodluck if you decided to go for it!
hah as Seanie280672 says to it might take alot of tries, its just keep going eventually it should succeed
Thanksks for the information, so it will not brick or will there be very little chance of bricking?
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Ir1shWall3 said:
Thanksks for the information, so it will not brick or will there be very little chance of bricking?
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just remember s-off actually means security off and opens up the nand to full write, its no longer protected.
therefore if you try to flash something that's not for your particular device, it will no longer fail with an error, it will flash and brick your device, s-off itself doesn't brick, the user bricks by flashing the wrong things, so make sure you know what you are doing before you go s-off, if you don't really need it, or don't know what you are doing then don't bother, there's so many users on here that don't actually know how to even identify their correct RUU for instance, and that's simple stuff, but downloading the wrong one and flashing parts of it that don't belong to your phone = a brick, but again, that's the user, not s-off.
on the other hand however, s-off can help you out a lot, take a look at the below thread, he flashed the wrong software whilst s-on and has knackered his phone up, if he was s-off then it would be easily fixable with a simple downgrade of HBOOT, but because he's s-on he now has a brick: http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one/help/help-active-cmdline-overflow-1025-bytes-t2841484
S-off is complete control of your phone. Which is the dangerous part. The process to s-off is simple and will not brick you. Just be sure to remember your model ID (like mine is M7_wlv) because all ruu files will state what model number it is and for what firmware.
The reason to want s-off? Search your specific device's ruu files and see if there is one for your version or high that is officially signed by HTC. If there is none, you will want s-off to downgrade or flash the unsigned ruu. As S-on, you cannot downgrade firmware or flash unsigned ruus
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Guys I have an international HTC one with latest ota update and h -boot(1.57.0). If I decide to leave it s-on will I be able to change os from sense to cm. I'm worried that my phone might get a kernel problem since I always had to flash the boot img to get another Rom working...just want to know if I'll be able to flash all Rome below or above my current firmware?
yasir4abbas said:
Guys I have an international HTC one with latest ota update and h -boot(1.57.0). If I decide to leave it s-on will I be able to change os from sense to cm. I'm worried that my phone might get a kernel problem since I always had to flash the boot img to get another Rom working...just want to know if I'll be able to flash all Rome below or above my current firmware?
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you can flash any custom rom as long as its for your phone, even if your s-on, you just have to be HTC Dev unlocked, just make sure its for your phone and read the OP and instructions, the guy who bricked his recently flashed CM11 designed for a completely different phone and the kernel messed one of his partitions up, he didn't read the details and instructions, it couldn't be fixed because he wasn't s-off, the fix only works if your on HBOOT 1.44 and you cant downgrade that without s-off.
yasir4abbas said:
Guys I have an international HTC one with latest ota update and h -boot(1.57.0). If I decide to leave it s-on will I be able to change os from sense to cm. I'm worried that my phone might get a kernel problem since I always had to flash the boot img to get another Rom working...just want to know if I'll be able to flash all Rome below or above my current firmware?
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Yeah, as long as the software is for your device it will be perfect, but you'll need to know the actual model number of your device, mine is m7_ul, but yours might be just m7, so be weary of what yours is, the best way of finding this out is going into the bootloader and looking at the first characters on the first line, i'm good at all this stuff, its that im just weary of making my device an expensive piece of metal and glass, if you need help, you can always send me a message
Ir1shWall3 said:
Yeah, as long as the software is for your device it will be perfect, but you'll need to know the actual model number of your device, mine is m7_ul, but yours might be just m7, so be weary of what yours is, the best way of finding this out is going into the bootloader and looking at the first characters on the first line, i'm good at all this stuff, its that im just weary of making my device an expensive piece of metal and glass, if you need help, you can always send me a message
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that's not completely true, a custom rom built for M7_UL will work just fine on the M7_U, they are the same device, just one has LTE and the other doesn't, just means those parts of the rom wont be installed.
the only rom's you cant use are HTC ONE M7 custom rom';s built for Spirint and Verizon devices.
Seanie280672 said:
that's not completely true, a custom rom built for M7_UL will work just fine on the M7_U, they are the same device, just one has LTE and the other doesn't, just means those parts of the rom wont be installed.
the only rom's you cant use are HTC ONE M7 custom rom';s built for Spirint and Verizon devices.
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Ah right! I guess the ul has 4G? You learn something new everyday!
Alright, so a friend came to me with an M8. It appears to be fully updated and is running 4.4.4 android. I was able to unlock the bootloader, and I have TWRP installed. However, every time I flash Superuser.zip, it says it works but does nothing. So, since I see lots of roms, I guess its possible to have root, but how to I obtain it? Been working on this for an hour and a half and cannot find a logical way that works.
First off to help @BD619 this thread needs to be posted in the Q&A section which is set there to prevent this post. Secondly, s-on or s-off? Did you try installing a rom with Root preinstalled? Did you try root checker from play store to verify root was installed?
Sorry!
Just mis posted. My bad.
S-On. Cannot seem to get S-Off either. Mainly just trying to sim unlock it and what I have found says that requires s-off which requires root. Lost. Not at all like my old S3 or EVO 4G. LOL! Those rooted no issue.
scothern99 said:
Sorry!
Just mis posted. My bad.
S-On. Cannot seem to get S-Off either. Mainly just trying to sim unlock it and what I have found says that requires s-off which requires root. Lost. Not at all like my old S3 or EVO 4G. LOL! Those rooted no issue.
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Sunshine s off is the best bet to s-off. Download their app, and from what it sounds, you are pretty close to stock anyways! You will most definately need to do more research on the sim unlock, thats a subject i never mess with. Good luck!!!
Well I am doing this for a friend and I am not spending any money. If anyone knows of at least a root, that gets me further.
Hello,
I've recently (yesterday) moved from Sonyland to HTCtopia, and I have no clue about what should I do first. I spent more than a hour just to find some guides. Am I correct that all the procedures, (not counting s-off) are exactly the same as on Sony? I mean, fastboot, Kernel, rom, gapps, good to go?
And secondly - is unlocking the bootloader from HTC Dev the same as s-offimg using programs? Or are there any differences?
I'm sorry if that question was asked before. I tried to find a similar topic around here
kuba22277 said:
Hello,
I've recently (yesterday) moved from Sonyland to HTCtopia, and I have no clue about what should I do first. I spent more than a hour just to find some guides. Am I correct that all the procedures, (not counting s-off) are exactly the same as on Sony? I mean, fastboot, Kernel, rom, gapps, good to go?
And secondly - is unlocking the bootloader from HTC Dev the same as s-offimg using programs? Or are there any differences?
I'm sorry if that question was asked before. I tried to find a similar topic around here
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unlocking the bootloader just allows you to flash custom recovery and roms, S-off is a whole other thing
Read the FAQ at the top of this forum and their are rooting tutorials in the main Bar of the forums