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I have selected to never keep WiFi on during sleep yet now the tablet continues to run the WiFi as you can see in the pictures. This has forced me to use airplane mode when I am on the go because otherwise the tablet just keeps WiFi on and burns the battery extremely quick. This has been a problem since I updated to 4.2.1. I am not rooted completely stock. A solution would be great because this sucks right now. I have tried clearing the cache in recovery but that didn't solve the problem.
I'm running the latest Paranoidandroid ROM and thought that was the problem. I can't yet post to that developer forum so I was just waiting for the next beta.
I guess it's a problem with 4.2.1 then.
-PMS
jetguy35 said:
I have selected to never keep WiFi on during sleep yet now the tablet continues to run the WiFi as you can see in the pictures. This has forced me to use airplane mode when I am on the go because otherwise the tablet just keeps WiFi on and burns the battery extremely quick. This has been a problem since I updated to 4.2.1. I am not rooted completely stock. A solution would be great because this sucks right now. I have tried clearing the cache in recovery but that didn't solve the problem.
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If you don't find a solution you may want to try DataEasyPro from the market. It kills both 3g and wifi as soon as the screen is off and then runs a user defined schedule to turn on 3g or wifi every now and the for a few seconds to keep you upto date with your social world. Works great. There is even a widget so you can turn off the schedule when you are downloading or updating from the play store.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cb56.dataeasypro
PsychoMcSatan said:
I'm running the latest Paranoidandroid ROM and thought that was the problem. I can't yet post to that developer forum so I was just waiting for the next beta.
I guess it's a problem with 4.2.1 then.
-PMS
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I think it is a 4.2.1 problem. Its hard to say how wide spread it is though because I have only seen a handful of posts about this issue though. To me, this issue is unacceptable. I should not have to enable/disable airplane mode to conserve battery. Especially when the previous version of android prior to the 4.2.1 update handled WiFi sleep settings without a problem. Hopefully a fix will be here soon. My tablet used to have superb battery life without me constantly monitoring it. Now I feel like I have to keep double checking that I remember to use airplane mode so that I don't go to use the tablet and find a nearly depleted battery.
Dmwitz said:
If you don't find a solution you may want to try DataEasyPro from the market. It kills both 3g and wifi as soon as the screen is off and then runs a user defined schedule to turn on 3g or wifi every now and the for a few seconds to keep you upto date with your social world. Works great. There is even a widget so you can turn off the schedule when you are downloading or updating from the play store.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cb56.dataeasypro
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This app shows as not compatible for me when I used the link.
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This app shows as not compatible for me when I used the link.
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I recommend automate it, I have a couple of rules set to turn WiFi of with the screen (with a 5min delay), then turn Wi-Fi back on when the screen turns on. There's plenty of other settings and rules to play with as well.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=AutomateIt.mainPackage
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In had the same issue. I found Google maps to be the culprit.
It defaulted back to location reporting.
Check Google now sync, maps and currents.
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It's not google maps itself, it's the android location service. It's always collecting data even if your phone or tabscreen isn't on. This is pretty anoying since google only let you choose between agreeing to run the service in the background or not using it at all. Stupid! How about collecting data only when the device is in use?
Same here. There is a bug report on Google about it.
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Ah this is interesting; as last night my battery was on 53% and I am sure I charged it fully previously...... Am on stock too but have rooted.
Might just switch the tablet off all the time for the time being.
I'm on stock rooted 4.2.1 and mine is fine. Strange.
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I'm on stock rooted 4.2.1 and mine is fine. Strange.
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WiFi turns off here also, which means its working as intended, what is strange is is it not working for some people, I'm also on stock rooted 4.2.1.
what is the OP using? Are there any apps installed/running on the OPs device that can keep the WiFi alive?
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what is the OP using? Are there any apps installed/running on the OPs device that can keep the WiFi alive?
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I highly recommend using an app called Better Battery Stats. You can find the free version here on XDA. It'll tell you if there is an app causing a wakelock. I used it to troubleshoot my Rezound and I'm getting a solid 4-5 hours of screen on time with the extended battery on that because it helped me lock down the apps that were killing my battery.
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I'm stock rooted and mines don't turn off neither.
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Hmmm. Just checked PA beta 7 and it's doing it too. Wifi on always.
A custom kernel would probably fix that.
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I highly recommend using an app called Better Battery Stats. You can find the free version here on XDA. It'll tell you if there is an app causing a wakelock. I used it to troubleshoot my Rezound and I'm getting a solid 4-5 hours of screen on time with the extended battery on that because it helped me lock down the apps that were killing my battery.
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Although my wifi is turning off I give thanks for pointing me in the direction of this app.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
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I was having the wifi on issue as well. Just bought my N7, stock 4.2.1 and not rooted. I followed the tip in point four of this post, which details a simple set up using Tasker, where the unit turns the wifi on and off after the screen turns on or off respectively. The reason for the 10 second delay as is detailed in the link, is to allow for the turning on of your N7 to check the time or other reasons, and then quickly turn it off without the wifi on task being activated.
the screenshot below shows my wifi being stuck on while in sleep mode, even with it set to be never on during sleep in the settings, and the change in behavior once the 2 Tasker profiles we set up.
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Those of you having issues, have you tried the "only when plugged in" setting? Not sure if it would really matter but that's what I use and mine turns on and off just fine.
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...have you tried the "only when plugged in" setting?
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Testing that now. Turned off Tasker, and set wifi to the "only when plugged in" setting. It's only been about 30 minutes, but so far it looks like it's behaving the same as before, as in keeping wifi on while in sleep. I'll Let it sleep for a few hours and see what the chart shows.
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EDIT: So I let my N7 sit for about an hour after switching the above mentioned settings, and you can see in the screenshot below that the wifi is staying on while the unit is not awake. I've set my Tasker profiles to control the wifi once again.
I know it may be fixed by a factory reset, but frankly I'm more than happy with the way Tasker handles the issue.
Cheers
so 6 months later, I am still getting this problem. However it seems only to be with the last update. The tasker method seems to be working well though.
As a previous owner of Samsung's Captivate, and Infuse I have had plenty of experience of how bad GPS can get.
Also having owned the Note 1 and Note 2 I was able to realize just how AWESOME GPS/GLONASS can be! My S2 was somewhere in between.
With EACH of the previous 5 AT&T devices I always left WI-FI assistance OFF for better accuracy with at times down to single digits of feet using a purchased app called GPS TEST PLUS.
Enter my two day old Note 3. It sees more than twenty satellites like my earlier Notes, but doesn't use nearly as many. GPS on Note 3 also seems to go to sleep in less than a couple minutes whereas all 5 earlier Galaxies didn't.
Google Maps starts to hone in and gets within several yards and then jumps a mile or so away before coming close again.
I have uninstalled/reinstalled gps app. Cleared/renewed agps data.
Full factory reset also without any improvement.
Accurate GPS is critical to me for marine navigation using Navionics app a couple of weeks each year on rental boats in FL Keys. Last spring we broke down and I sent owner an edited screen shot for him to come tow us.
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bluetoothless said:
As a previous owner of Samsung's Captivate, and Infuse I have had plenty of experience of how bad GPS can get.
Also having owned the Note 1 and Note 2 I was able to realize just how AWESOME GPS/GLONASS can be! My S2 was somewhere in between.
With EACH of the previous 5 AT&T devices I always left WI-FI assistance OFF for better accuracy with at times down to single digits of feet using a purchased app called GPS TEST PLUS.
Enter my two day old Note 3. It sees more than twenty satellites like my earlier Notes, but doesn't use nearly as many. GPS on Note 3 also seems to go to sleep in less than a couple minutes whereas all 5 earlier Galaxies didn't.
Google Maps starts to hone in and gets within several yards and then jumps a mile or so away before coming close again.
I have uninstalled/reinstalled gps app. Cleared/renewed agps data.
Full factory reset also without any improvement.
Accurate GPS is critical to me for marine navigation using Navionics app a couple of weeks each year on rental boats in FL Keys. Last spring we broke down and I sent owner an edited screen shot for him to come tow us.
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Yes, I have noticed the same thing. Not sure what do about. I have also noticed that my signal quality is really lower than it used to be on Galaxy Note 2, as well.
Garrett
Considering return within 14 days. Not acceptable for me especially if custom ROMs won't be available to improve upon.
Have not compared GN 1,2,& 3 FCC diagrams to see if GPS antenna was moved.
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I also have the same issue. I explained this to an att store that the gps is half as good as it was on my s4 or note 2. Lock on in maps kept going in and out and when i drove, my arrow would be driving over houses. All they said was they can't do anything because they can see anything wrong. While maps is open it locks on but accuracy keeps fading in and out. Again i said well it's more noticeable when driving. He said that i should take a photo of it happening... and that Gps accuracy is normal within 100 feet. I looked at him in disgust and repeated "normal within 100 feet?". I basically lost my sh*t immediately after that grabbed my phone out of his hand and walked out. I have no idea what to do.
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Same issue with my Note 3. Very inaccurate GPS. I have sent mine for repairs and if they can't solve it I will not keep it.
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YEAP .mine does the same thing. Hear we go again with a galaxy and a gps ! Note 2 was flawless and this issue makes me miss that phone
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This seems like a widespread issue and exchanging for another seems pointless. Right?
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I exchanged my pre ordered unit. It is stronger/better, but still not up to note 1 and 2 standards.
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jajoj said:
Same issue with my Note 3. Very inaccurate GPS. I have sent mine for repairs and if they can't solve it I will not keep it.
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did you get yours back? i'm thinking of sending mine in to samsung for repair. I don't want to send it in if their repair dept doesn't do anything.
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This seems like a widespread issue and exchanging for another seems pointless. Right?
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That's exactly what I would like to know, because I have a similar issue. For me, using google maps works great until it suddenly says "GPS Signal Lost" and stops working. If I turn off GPS and turn it back on, it gets a fix again pretty quickly, but this shouldn't happen so often. It happens at least once every time I use maps, and often it will happen multiple times.
I have the "GPS Essentials" app so I ran it alongside google maps and checked it when the signal got lost. The satellites basically went from a count of about 17 down to 0 and then started adding themselves back.
I was going to exchange my phone for an exact replacement tomorrow. But if this is a software issue or an issue effecting the hardware on all phones, then it doesn't make sense to exchange it. I'd really like to pinpoint the issue exactly. Has anyone managed to get rid of this issue completely?
Someone should try exctracting a old version of maps from a note 2 or note 1 rom, uncheck auto update in the play store and see if the older version of maps is any better or if it will even work. I'll give it a try.
I just exchanged my phone today for a new one because of the GPS issues I was having. I used google maps navigation twice since and didn't hear "GPS signal lost" once. Seems like my new one doesn't have the GPS problem, but it may be too soon to tell. It could just be that a significant portion of the Note 3's out there have buggy GPS chips and my new one has a good one.
Another thought I had was maybe it has something to do with software we all have installed. Did everyone who had this problem root their phones? My old phone was rooted with Root De La Vega. I also froze AT&T navigation. I'm hoping the problem doesn't return when I root the new phone and install all my apps, but we shall see.
Having mobile data "on" helped me improve the GPS signal on my Note 3
Thanks for posting your experiences.
My phone has been on repairs twice with no improvement. I will go back to the store tomorrow and give them one more chance to solve the issues before returning it permanently.
I love the phone in every possible way except for the poor gps. It looses the fix constantly even in places where the sky is clear and reception should be perfect.
Below is an example of note 3 vs S4 running the "GPS Status & Toolbox" app. Worth noting is that the Note 3 had been searching for a fix for 20 minutes while the S4 was booted up just seconds prior to the photo:
i43.tinypic.com/2a7781g.jpg (copy paste in browser)
Both phones having the same settings enabled (wifi, gps) and swapping their positions did nothing to improve the situation. 1 minute after the photo was taken the S4 was down to 3m accuracy. Note 3 never goes below 10.
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xfive420 said:
That's exactly what I would like to know, because I have a similar issue. For me, using google maps works great until it suddenly says "GPS Signal Lost" and stops working. If I turn off GPS and turn it back on, it gets a fix again pretty quickly, but this shouldn't happen so often. It happens at least once every time I use maps, and often it will happen multiple times.
I have the "GPS Essentials" app so I ran it alongside google maps and checked it when the signal got lost. The satellites basically went from a count of about 17 down to 0 and then started adding themselves back.
I was going to exchange my phone for an exact replacement tomorrow. But if this is a software issue or an issue effecting the hardware on all phones, then it doesn't make sense to exchange it. I'd really like to pinpoint the issue exactly. Has anyone managed to get rid of this issue completely?
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I had the same issue, except I would lose the GPS signal every time I plugged the phone in. I would have a good signal then plug it in and it would drop the GPS. Even the GPS icon would disappear. I took it to the ATT store and they exchanged it. I don't have that issue anymore, although my compass app seems way and useless.
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I had the same issue, except I would lose the GPS signal every time I plugged the phone in. I would have a good signal then plug it in and it would drop the GPS. Even the GPS icon would disappear. I took it to the ATT store and they exchanged it. I don't have that issue anymore, although my compass app seems way and useless.
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So that's more evidence that the hardware may be to blame... unless you had a profile manager or something that launched conflicting software when the phone was plugged in. Seems like poor QA on the GPS chips to me.
About your compass issue, I think you have to rotate the phone at least twice around each axis to get that to calibrate. Although that may be just with certain apps.
So I installed maps apk from a note 1 rom so I'll give it a try and report back if it is any better. Its a long shot but worth a try.
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I just exchanged my phone today for a new one because of the GPS issues I was having. I used google maps navigation twice since and didn't hear "GPS signal lost" once. Seems like my new one doesn't have the GPS problem, but it may be too soon to tell. It could just be that a significant portion of the Note 3's out there have buggy GPS chips and my new one has a good one.
Another thought I had was maybe it has something to do with software we all have installed. Did everyone who had this problem root their phones? My old phone was rooted with Root De La Vega. I also froze AT&T navigation. I'm hoping the problem doesn't return when I root the new phone and install all my apps, but we shall see.
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Just an update...
I rooted my phone again and installed all my apps, and my GPS still works perfectly. So basically my software stack is the exact same as it was when I had issues, but now the hardware is all new. This tells me the software is not to blame, and the GPS issue is most likely caused by a crappy GPS chip with poor quality control.
A word of advice: If you have GPS issues in your Note 3 and you're still within the 2 week window AT&T gives you for returning the phone, exchange it for a new one. It seems to have fixed my problem.
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Just an update...
I rooted my phone again and installed all my apps, and my GPS still works perfectly. So basically my software stack is the exact same as it was when I had issues, but now the hardware is all new. This tells me the software is not to blame, and the GPS issue is most likely caused by a crappy GPS chip with poor quality control.
A word of advice: If you have GPS issues in your Note 3 and you're still within the 2 week window AT&T gives you for returning the phone, exchange it for a new one. It seems to have fixed my problem.
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I was a pre-order (received it on the 4th) so I'm well past the 2 week window. I didn't really use the GPS until after I rooted with the initial Root De La Vega (MI1 FW). Then I noticed just terrible GPS performance (jumping around, poor refresh, losing lock, etc.) I re-rooted using the MI9 FW, and my GPS performance improved dramatically. My compass is still terrible. But I can navigate with Gmaps without always jumping to different streets. Just my experience.
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I was a pre-order (received it on the 4th) so I'm well past the 2 week window. I didn't really use the GPS until after I rooted with the initial Root De La Vega (MI1 FW). Then I noticed just terrible GPS performance (jumping around, poor refresh, losing lock, etc.) I re-rooted using the MI9 FW, and my GPS performance improved dramatically. My compass is still terrible. But I can navigate with Gmaps without always jumping to different streets. Just my experience.
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For what it's worth, I rooted with MI9 on both phones. The first one had the GPS issues and the 2nd works perfectly.
I had 2 VZW Moto Xs and they rocked. About 10 days ago I switched to TMO Moto Xs and the GPS loses lock on both of them. Much like the first set, they get lock very quickly, but both the TMO units acted strangely during nav and when I installed GPS Status I see that the GPS gets lock, the coordinates are displayed, then about 10 sec later it searches for lock again, the coordinates aren't returned, and then it relocks.
This causes a real usability issue when it comes to navigation. If it was one of these I'd think I had a dud, but the VZW units worked fine and the TMO units both have this bug.
Has anyone seen similar issues?
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I use gps daily and i've only come across an issue with it 2x when i went to New York City. basically, it was putting my location all over the map, as if it couldnt find me. Im guessing the high rise buildings had something to do with it.
as far as gps losing lock, I have notice that as well. I never toggle it off and yet I have to turn it maybe once/twice a month
The lock problem I have is pretty continuous, and restarting doesn't seem to help. Wondering I'd there was a bad run somehow.
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I also encountered this issue.
I reset the phone and it went back normal; however, it occasionally still acts weird. I'm on tmobile as well.
Hope someone can figure this out
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For those of you seeing this issue, when it pops up, go into settings > location and see if you see LocationServices listed twice... One with a size of 120k, and the other 136k.
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For those of you seeing this issue, when it pops up, go into settings > location and see if you see LocationServices listed twice... One with a size of 120k, and the other 136k.
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As a matter of fact I do see this. Any idea what might be going on?
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Not yet... but it seems out of place.
My history with GPS "not quite working" was about it being extremely hit and miss about detecting me driving. When this would happen, I'd notice problems with Maps as well.
After a factory reset, it all worked fine. But as soon as I reinstalled Yelp, the issue returned. I'm not certain that yelp is the culprit as in hindsight, I really didn't confirm proper operation after the reset for a long enough period of time given the intermittent nature of the problem.
Next step is to try and determine if two of these same processes is normal, and if not, which one doesn't belong, and where it's coming from. There is a thread in the Moto forums I started. One person there who sees only one occurrence of the process stated his is 120k in size. One of my posts also has a list of all my third party apps that use location services. It would be helpful to know which apps are in common with folks having this issue. The thread is at:
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/8a2bf78f04?page=1
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I had 2 VZW Moto Xs and they rocked. About 10 days ago I switched to TMO Moto Xs and the GPS loses lock on both of them. Much like the first set, they get lock very quickly, but both the TMO units acted strangely during nav and when I installed GPS Status I see that the GPS gets lock, the coordinates are displayed, then about 10 sec later it searches for lock again, the coordinates aren't returned, and then it relocks.
This causes a real usability issue when it comes to navigation. If it was one of these I'd think I had a dud, but the VZW units worked fine and the TMO units both have this bug.
Has anyone seen similar issues?
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So you are saying this can be software issue? I have a T-Mobile Moto X and I use the phone mostly for Navigation and this is driving me crazy. I am thinking that my phone is defective and been on the phone for 30+ min trying to get support.
I have the same issue
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Not yet... but it seems out of place.
My history with GPS "not quite working" was about it being extremely hit and miss about detecting me driving. When this would happen, I'd notice problems with Maps as well.
After a factory reset, it all worked fine. But as soon as I reinstalled Yelp, the issue returned. I'm not certain that yelp is the culprit as in hindsight, I really didn't confirm proper operation after the reset for a long enough period of time given the intermittent nature of the problem.
Next step is to try and determine if two of these same processes is normal, and if not, which one doesn't belong, and where it's coming from. There is a thread in the Moto forums I started. One person there who sees only one occurrence of the process stated his is 120k in size. One of my posts also has a list of all my third party apps that use location services. It would be helpful to know which apps are in common with folks having this issue. The thread is at:
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/8a2bf78f04?page=1
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I went ahead and posted my situation to https://forums.motorola.com/posts/8a2bf78f04?commentId=755612#755612. There are no apps in common with all three devices (yours, mine, my wife's). The quest continues.
I must add that I also had this problem on my previous phones, Note 2 and Galaxy Mega 6.3. The problem started around the past summer.
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I confirm that I force stop the 120 k location service file, and the problem is gone. Need to do that again after a reset though.
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I confirm that I force stop the 120 k location service file, and the problem is gone. Need to do that again after a reset though.
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When you say 'reset', do you mean reset or just rebooting your phone?
BTW, I have no LocationServices on my Nexus 4, so these seem to be Moto's binaries, which makes sense.
Would appreciate you keeping us posted if this continues to address the issue and causes no additional problems.
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When you say 'reset', do you mean reset or just rebooting your phone?
BTW, I have no LocationServices on my Nexus 4, so these seem to be Moto's binaries, which makes sense.
Would appreciate you keeping us posted if this continues to address the issue and causes no additional problems.
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I mean rebooting the phone. I use Waze everyday for commuting. I will report back if this fix doesn't work.
In terms of side effects, I have not seen any yet.
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I see both, and if I stop one, I get no better GPS lock.
I've been getting g terrible GPS lock recently and also posted a thread.
Driving me nuts.
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I went ahead and posted my situation to ... There are no apps in common with all three devices (yours, mine, my wife's). The quest continues.
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I have the same problem. XT1053 on T-Mobile constantly loses GPS signal while driving. Happens in wide open areas with no buildings. I have tried wiping the device and not installing any additional apps and have the same results. I can be sitting at a traffic light have GPS signal, lose it for a few seconds then get it back without having moved.
Here is a poorly shot video of this happening. I will try and get something more clear tomorrow.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5MeEVS1DW0
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I returned my phone for this issue yesterday. I had navigation issues along with the drive assist problem. While driving maps world just stop. If I was at a turn and turned left the map would stay stuck at the turn long after I turned. It eventually would catch up. Loosing and gaining lock would perfectly explain this.
Update: I got a replacement phone. The new phone has the same problems. May be a bit worse.
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Been chasing this one for a while and still think this isn't hardware related (lots of Nexus 5 users seeing this on KK as well).
My latest theory, which I have yet to disprove, is that the GPS data downloaded from some cell towers (this is the A in AGPS) is either wrong, or is somehow getting corrupted.
When this happens to me, turning on airplane mode immediately restores a quick and persistent lock. And using GPS Status to reset/erase the AGPS data returns normal operation... for a while.
It's like the initial fix info is fighting with the actual GPS readings. As soon as you turn off the cell towers, or clear the data they are providing, all is well.
I am in T-Mobile fringe area and see it fairly often. So far it has always cleared up by trying the above.
This is am interesting theory. I will check it out a bit. Most interesting is the idea that the agps data structure may be slightly different for kitkat v ICS, and that it may also be different for TMO. The main idea supporting this (though purely anecdotal) is that it does happen on both my tmo Xs but neither of my VZW Xs.
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Hi, I hate to just jump into a new forum with a "cry for help", but I have been trying to get to the bottom of this issue and someone suggested that I post about it here. I am wondering if anyone has seen the following issues or has any insight into what might be the cause and/or a solution?
I apologize in advance for being long winded, but I am hoping the more infor I provide the more likely someone will be able to help me.
Since I got my (original) Moto X in December the driving mode worked most of the time. It wasn't until somewhere between or around the contextual services update and the subsequent Assist update that I noticed the problem, it could have been there before, but i became very aware of it once I noticed that my assist was not "learning" my cars bluetooth as described in the update. Since then I have noticed that assist recognizes when I am driving 1/3-1/2 the time at best. I have gone through motorola tech support and they tried clearing all related data, reinstalling apps and even a factory reset, nothing eliminated the problem for more than a day or so. They replaced my phone despite me insisting it's not a hardware issue. New phone has the same symptoms. Here are the symptoms and what I have tried.
-When it works it takes 1-5 minutes usually, it used to kick in within seconds of being in motion.
-Works >80% of the time if i go somewhere first thing in the AM after it's been charging or after a power cycle.
-Works ~50-75% of the time if I begin to drive again after it works once so long as it's after a fairly short stop.
-Fails to recognize driving 75-90% of the time if I have been in one place for a long period of time (ie after leaving work or running an errand after being home most of the day)
-Toggling "talk to me" under assist driving options while driving sometimes gets it to kick in.
-Opening google maps will kick it in sometimes as well.
-When it's not working I've had my wife watch it in the car and it will show the location services icon in the top as though it is checking, but not kick on.
-I am not using any task killers, I have tasker installed, but I have deactivated it.
I have been trying all kinds of different scenarios to isolate what the problem is so if there is anymore info i can provide to help make it clearer I probably have it so please ask.
Thanks for any help you can provide.
-Kev
You're describing my phone exactly except I can get Drive Assist to turn on every time if I use the app called GPS Status before I start driving. I think it has something to do with the GPS.
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I have a thread about what is likely related to this on both xda and moto support forums. I will link in the morning, but I just **** this [poor quality] video this evening, it seems to demonstrate the issue.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5MeEVS1DW0
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Is this a known bug with all moto x phones or just a few. Is it futile to return the phone?
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Exchanging seems futile, perhaps 4.4.2 will help but that's just blind hope which is worthless
Here is a link to the other XDA thread. I still need to update and link the Moto Support thread too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2593098
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Seem to be having an issue that I can't take care of that I've tried everything that I know that I believed could be causing the drops. The issue I'm having is any time I turn the screen off while driving my GPS will lose its connection after about 5 minutes. I was also losing data so I figured it was an application causing that issue with that problem I got resolved by removing the battery saving application called battery guru. That was actually shutting my data connection off with my screen off so I got rid of that completely but I still seem to have the problem with my GPS drops. My data stays up just fine but it seems like clockwork every 5 minutes the screens off I'm driving and I get that voice GPS connection lost. All I have to do is click the back button in Google Maps and reload my route and BAM its right back up and going. Now I can leave the screen on and I will not lose the GPS signal whatsoever until I turn the screen off. Have went through all the settings that I know of and of course the only battery saving application that I had installed and I can't seem to find the issue. I also use the search tool and couldn't find anyone else with a problem like mine. Does anyone have any suggestions or have seen this on their device? I'm beginning to think this may be a hardware issue I'm not sure. But if it was a hardware issue you would think I would be losing the connection all the time not with just the screen off which leads me back to a software issue. I'm going to keep freezing apps with titanium to see if I can find another culprit. I just don't have anything else installed that should have anything to do with that. Thanks in advance for any help for insight you may have.
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Seem to be having an issue that I can't take care of that I've tried everything that I know that I believed could be causing the drops. The issue I'm having is any time I turn the screen off while driving my GPS will lose its connection after about 5 minutes. I was also losing data so I figured it was an application causing that issue with that problem I got resolved by removing the battery saving application called battery guru. That was actually shutting my data connection off with my screen off so I got rid of that completely but I still seem to have the problem with my GPS drops. My data stays up just fine but it seems like clockwork every 5 minutes the screens off I'm driving and I get that voice GPS connection lost. All I have to do is click the back button in Google Maps and reload my route and BAM its right back up and going. Now I can leave the screen on and I will not lose the GPS signal whatsoever until I turn the screen off. Have went through all the settings that I know of and of course the only battery saving application that I had installed and I can't seem to find the issue. I also use the search tool and couldn't find anyone else with a problem like mine. Does anyone have any suggestions or have seen this on their device? I'm beginning to think this may be a hardware issue I'm not sure. But if it was a hardware issue you would think I would be losing the connection all the time not with just the screen off which leads me back to a software issue. I'm going to keep freezing apps with titanium to see if I can find another culprit. I just don't have anything else installed that should have anything to do with that. Thanks in advance for any help for insight you may have.
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Is called a nexus. Google stock has always had that issue. Unfortunately nexus users spend most of the time locked in a basement and never happen to use gps, therefore they will say their gps works just fine.
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Really? Interesting. Don't remember that on my galaxy nexus but don't know that I ever used the gps honestly. Anyone else confirm this?
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Is called a nexus. Google stock has always had that issue. Unfortunately nexus users spend most of the time locked in a basement and never happen to use gps, therefore they will say their gps works just fine.
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FYI my gps DOES work fine... But I forgot you know my experiences better than me. My bad. Stupid response.
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My GPS on my Nexus 6 is and always has been amazing. (Thanks for reminding me to compare that when I get the 6P). I use my GPS daily to keep Waze up when I drive to watch for cops, traffic, etc. Even when I know where I'm going I use it and Google play streaming over Bluetooth and my GPS keeps connection even in Manhattan.
I would recommending getting an app called GPS status, it has a few settings to keep GPS active etc, which should solve your problem. However I have no clue what could cause something like that...
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