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Hi everyone,
I just got my X1 recently. I read alot on forums about the problem of paint peeling off from X1, esp on the edges.
Does anyone have good ways to prevent paint peeling or at least cover the whole X1 body and delay the peeling for at least 1 year?
Does BodyGuardz, InvisibleShield, SGP, Clear-Coat, or even GMask cover the entire X1 body, especially the shiny edges?
Appreciate any comments on the above, thanks
GMask covers everything, the rest ~90%.
thanks rickysio, any idea how much it cost to get X1 done with GMask?
I read in another forum that the GMask in Singapore Bishan Junction 8 had an incident of scratching a customer's phone >_< and initially refusing to admit liability until the customer made a big fuss out of it, does anyone has a good experience with GMasking their phones esp SE X1 ?
(Most) Small shops in Singapore mostly refuse to admit liability. Cause most owners are asshats.
Heard that BodyGuardz covers ~95% however.
I heard that GMask SG charges $39.90. My Xperia is still going about free willy, however. ;D
Does GMask covers the screen too? I just got for my X1 Martin Fields screen protector, would be a dilemma if i need to remove the screen protector in order to get it GMask >_<
If i add on GMask on top of Martin Field, not sure if it will be too think for the touch screen to work, though that would be 'double protection'
You can ask them not to cover the screen. GMask... Hmm, I have conflicting reports from users and the GMask website. One says it only covers the body (consumers) and the other says everything (GMask)
Thanks for the info rickysio
I use for my X1i the InvisibleShield. I think it took me about 2 or 3 hours to put it. The apperance changed a lot, is more shinny now (not in a good way). The InvisibleShield come with screen protection also, but the problemm is that the peel is a bit to big (about 0.5 mm in both ways) and this is the reason why on 2 edges is not perfectly sticked.
I also have 2 peels that i didn't have a clue where to put them
InvisibleShield is terribly grippy. Had one on my iPod Touch - had it changed a RACEShield, which is a similar product, but was formerly automobile only - it felt way better to the touch.
Both however, had gaps.
Has anyone tried using soft silicon cover together with screen protectors? Any downside to this set of protection?
Aside from added bulk and lint loving silicon being a bad match with pockets, the only drawback would be that some particles could get trapped between the silicon and the case and scratch the hell out of your phone - happened to my 5700.
Whatever you do don't get an invisible shield. what a piece of garbage from a garbage company
Then, the avergae suggestion would be to leave the X1 as is and take care of it? I've a got a screen protector, and was wondering about the GMask, InviShield and such products... From Brohlin's and rickysio's experiences, I guess I just made my mind
Actually I was probably going to GMask my Xperia soonish, but then I found out that I chipped the chrome somehow prior, so I can't be bothered any more.
I just applied a screen protector and stored it in a Oakley pouch. :S
My X1 is naked. Lol. I really don't care about the wear and tear of day to day use. I love my X1 and its "battle scars!"
Invisible shield isnt a bad company but there prolly are companies that off the same quality for less money. I have it on mine and no problem i also recommend it to my friends.
I dropped my phone the other day and it decides to leave ALL the impact to the upper left corner so now its cracked and shipped :-/
The most important spot to protect is the corner, which i dont thing film styled skins do
allenx1 said:
Invisible shield isnt a bad company but there prolly are companies that off the same quality for less money. I have it on mine and no problem i also recommend it to my friends.
I dropped my phone the other day and it decides to leave ALL the impact to the upper left corner so now its cracked and shipped :-/
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Sorry to hear that mate..
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The most important spot to protect is the corner, which i dont thing film styled skins do
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I'll have to agree on that.. however, the other bug rubber skins are so ungodly hideous... Anyhow. I think mine's gonna stay naked for now... I just wouldn't like for the back plate to get scratched.. it just looks so nice
haha i meant "chipped" btw not "shipped"
I really dont want a rubber skin either, they should make a paperthing strong alloy casing lol
i tried skinomi.
you can get it for $15 using the 25% discount coupon(google it)
its really good. It's same as invisible shield but this one fits PERFECT.
The only thing is that it makes your phone shiny, its not that bad. The back battery cover has that metallish look, but after putting the skinomi, it's unnoticeable and it just looks like a shiny fone.
and have some patience after applying it. give it about 2 days for all the bubbles to disappear. THEY DiSAPPEAR FOR SURE.
I like skinomi. Also, make sure you use a clean dust free environment.
Also, it's really hard to remove it from the screen, once it sticks. so if u plan to remove it some day, make sure u do it very carefully, as u can easily damage the screen while removing it.
Although the feel of a rubbercoating is good in your hand, it'll usually mean the rubber starts to wear of after a few months of usage.
I've had multiple phones with rubberized backs (all HTC) and all but one started to lose it's coating after like a year of usage. It would as always start in the corners and then spread across the whole bottom/top of the phone. Only my current one (Desire Z) is still without wear. Although i'm not sure if thats actually a rubber coating but it feels antislip and rubbery.
What are your thoughts about the rubber coating on the Xperia T?
Mine will be protected by a thin gel case so won't wear at all!
Indeed, for a measly 2.99 on eBay delivered, crazy not to get a case, particularly if you are likely to drop it as inevitably I will.
Even if you don't want a case you can just get a clear body skin if you're worried about it
Hi guys,
I noticed a small problem in my xperia z. As you know, the edges fiberglass chassis protrude slightly with respect to the panels of front and back glass. in my case I noticed that where there is the door to the sim, the board seems a little less prominent, as if the rear glass was a little more prominent. your are so well? is a problem caused by overheating of the processor? is something almost imperceptible so even taking pictures you could not see
anyone can say if you have the same situation? is it normal?
it does seem a little convex here now that you've mentioned it . Only a little
Yes Only a little...but now i think the Glass rests the surfaces in that point :/
Anyother?
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Hi guys,
I noticed a small problem in my xperia z. As you know, the edges fiberglass chassis protrude slightly with respect to the panels of front and back glass. in my case I noticed that where there is the door to the sim, the board seems a little less prominent, as if the rear glass was a little more prominent. your are so well? is a problem caused by overheating of the processor? is something almost imperceptible so even taking pictures you could not see
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The glass is flexible, maybe it's that . Anyway, what problem does that cause to you?
Sent from my LG-P990 using xda premium
i think that now the glass touch the surface where i put the phone.
Android i suppose that the Phone Could have an internal problem. Possible?
Just had a really good look at mine and it looks perfectly flat so wouldn't say a curve in the back was normal.
Phil
It's very very Little...like 0.1 mm. Can this compromise water proof?
I see what you mean now, if I run my finger nail across the back towards the opposite side (with USB and microSD) my nail catches on the rubber edge protruding slightly, however, on the side with the SIM slot, the glass protrudes slightly further than the rubber edge, and so my nail slips off the edge of the phone.
The problem you'll see, because of this, is that when your phone lies flat on the desk, it should be resting on the rubber edge and not touching the glass, but on the SIM side, the glass touches the desk.
It might scratch the glass/screen protector but it shouldn't be a problem otherwise.
yes it's the same thing for me!!!...so i think that the only problem is the scratch of screen protector.
I restored the original form with a vise and a phone...but when i play a game and the phone became hot the problem return...so i think that is a stock
behavior of xperia z. the convex is imperceptible but the rear glass touch the surface and i can see some scratches on the sony stock film.I would not want that water came from this small curvature!
I purchased an InvisibleSHIELD a few weeks ago, however the corners have started to peel up so I shall request a replacement from Zagg soon. However, the rubber coating on my Xperia T appears to be rubbing off, after only light & careful use, so I decided to purchase a case and the best one that I could get in the UK seemed to be the Case Mate Barely There (on Case Mate's website & Amazon). Hopefully it comes tomorrow and can protect the areas that are starting to rub off (shown in the attached photo), does anyone else have this case and can they offer any feedback on it? I will post my opinions of it later and will try to answer any questions (I'm also willing to answer questions on the full body InvisibleSHIELD if anyone has any!).
I have this case in white. It's great, makes my phone look like a storm trooper, has decent protection, raised beveled edges on the front to protect the screen when placed face-down. Good purchase.
I didn't know that this matte surface could be peeled off...
It obviously does. What is the surface underneath? It seems like some glossy plastic. This is really bad.
On past SE phones, it was much more durable, and it wasn't just some tiny coating.
My father is still using my old SE K800 phone, and matte surface is still intact.
Also, my first Android phone, X10 Mini Pro, never had similar issues in more than 2 years of usage.
If nothing, now I'm sure I will never take off protective case from my Xperia T.
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I didn't know that this matte surface could be peeled off...
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i think this issue isnt common, some have that problem, but its not the major part.
i have my XT since it came out, and i never used a case. and all fine here with the back. so its bad for everyone who has that problem, but its not every phone
Hello Everyone,
Been using the S21U for 2 weeks now and I have recently noticed micro scratches on the lens element!
The phone is in transparent TPU case since day 1 and I have hardly went outdoors. I traded off my S20+ and the camera bump didn't had a single line from 10 months of usage.
Has anyone encountered this? Maybe others can have a closer look now at their devices.
Any insights, suggestions on what needs to be done or can be prevented will be welcome!
Really sorry to hear that. Just out of precaution, I have placed a whitestone dome glass protector on mine, just because I dont want to experience anything like that with a EUR1300 phone. Not that much expensive and you get two protectors in the box.
shetty08 said:
Hello Everyone,
Been using the S21U for 2 weeks now and I have recently noticed micro scratches on the lens element!
The phone is in transparent TPU case since day 1 and I have hardly went outdoors. I traded off my S20+ and the camera bump didn't had a single line from 10 months of usage.
Has anyone encountered this? Maybe others can have a closer look now at their devices.
Any insights, suggestions on what needs to be done or can be prevented will be welcome!
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how was it scratched? only from keys?
Be very wary of scratching this phone. I recently figured out that the S21 Ultra supposedly does not have the same Victus glass design as the Note 20 Ultra... It has a slightly modified form of Victus that's much, much thinner (as it's covered by another, easily scratch-able glass material...and so the cameras might be like this too)... So instead of being resistant to most micro-scratches, they are actually easier to get and become permanent immediately on this phone (learned this by scratching my display with denim jeans - no metal/button contact) =(.
I'm just assuming that they're doing this to increase their glass repair jobs... Granted, Apple has been doing this with their iPhones for an extremely long time now... But hey, Samsung has started acting kinda like they're the Apple-like company of Android, lol.
im sorry, but you what?
you scratched glass with jeans?
I'm a stainless steel fabricator do I'm in the worst possible job for scratching phones so have the screen and camera protected, ESR TPU for the front and LK glass for the camera, don't even notice they are on at all and only coast 20 yo-yos for both
The lenses don't scratch easily, but depending on what you do during your day you might end up with stuff in your pockets that will do it. There are a lot of glass protectors for the cameras out there for the S21U, for example in the US you can get a 2-pack from Spigen for $12, and a bunch more that are even cheaper.
If you get one, get one of the blacked out ones, You will get artifacts in your photos from the flash/AF light as they get channeled across the glass of the protector if you don't; learned that one from using clear cases over the years.
Are you sure the lenses are scratched or the camera bump? Because the camera bump is not made of glass! It's metal and the darker colors of phones will be a horrible one, especially phantom black!!
That's not the lense. It's a factory protector.
May have been marred during assembly.
Don't sweat as it can be replaced if needed. A very slight may no effect the images at all but because the otherall area is so small it might. Protectors are a waste of money; it -is- the lense protector!
Any added optic elements will degrade the image.
It's possible to polish out micro scratches with a clean, dry finger tip by rubbing back and forth on glass or antireflective coatings. Takes at least 30 minutes or more... if it really bugs you. Yes dry callus is abrasive and hard enough to polish glass.
Likewise even the smallest amount of grit, sand etc rubbed against it by your finger can marred it.
Don't use that opening in the case as a pickup point.
It can also be marred by improper cleaning. Only use a clean dry microfiber cloth. Wet it a little if need be. Ordinary cotton cloth will eventually cause scratches owing to unseen debris it picked up. Seen many a pair of glasses made of glass scratched like this. Grit stinks into the microfiber material away from the surface being cleaned helping to protect it.
My 10+ lense protector is plastic. I live in the desert. I occasionally clean it but only with a microfiber cloth the same way I treat high dollar optics. No damage after a year and a half.
Just use a good case with a raised cam guard.
blackhawk said:
That's not the lense. It's a factory protector.
May have been marred during assembly.
Don't sweat as it can be replaced if needed. A very slight may no effect the images at all but because the otherall area is so small it might. Protectors are a waste of money; it -is- the lense protector!
Any added optic elements will degrade the image.
It's possible to polish out micro scratches with a clean, dry finger tip by rubbing back and forth on glass or antireflective coatings. Takes at least 30 minutes or more... if it really bugs you. Yes dry callus is abrasive and hard enough to polish glass.
Likewise even the smallest amount of grit, sand etc rubbed against it by your finger can marred it.
Don't use that opening in the case as a pickup point.
It can also be marred by improper cleaning. Only use a clean dry microfiber cloth. Wet it a little if need be. Ordinary cotton cloth will eventually cause scratches owing to unseen debris it picked up. Seen many a pair of glasses made of glass scratched like this. Grit stinks into the microfiber material away from the surface being cleaned helping to protect it.
My 10+ lense protector is plastic. I live in the desert. I occasionally clean it but only with a microfiber cloth the same way I treat high dollar optics. No damage after a year and a half.
Just use a good case with a raised cam guard.
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Hey thanks man for the reassuring reply!
As I said in the post, Its barely been 2 weeks and I didn't even travelled much, put it in jeans with keys, coins etc. It was lying dormant with little use.
On close inspection in direct sunlight / outdoors. I saw lines which are underneath the lens glass and not on the surface.
I just don't want the image quality to suffer and plus the service center sucks (experience in dealing with S20+)
Not sure if they will acknowledge it or tag it as a user handling damage.
What are my options?
nightoooo said:
Are you sure the lenses are scratched or the camera bump? Because the camera bump is not made of glass! It's metal and the darker colors of phones will be a horrible one, especially phantom black!!
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The lens area only, the bump I know is metal and it is intact.
shetty08 said:
Hey thanks man for the reassuring reply!
As I said in the post, Its barely been 2 weeks and I didn't even travelled much, put it in jeans with keys, coins etc. It was lying dormant with little use.
On close inspection in direct sunlight / outdoors. I saw lines which are underneath the lens glass and not on the surface.
I just don't want the image quality to suffer and plus the service center sucks (experience in dealing with S20+)
Not sure if they will acknowledge it or tag it as a user handling damage.
What are my options?
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If it's on the internal side there's no way you did. Make sure you specify that if returning it.
If it's on the inside without direct inspection it's hard to tell if it's on or into the glass.
It may simple be a smear albeit a hard to remove smear.
Either way shoddy assembly. Having put together thousands of display assemblies I was always careful that the internal surfaces were spotless.
They are selling camera protectors on aliexpress. However, they are not exactly sticking to the actual lens as they are slightly deeper. That basically would create s small gap between the camera lens and the protector. I would assume it MIGHT slightly degrade quality in some cases. Not sure but it may be worth trying out.
I solved all these problems I bought
Galaxy S21 Ultra Case with Camera Cover,S21 Ultra Slim
https://www.amazon.com/Polycarbonate-Protective-Shockproof-Upgraded-Samsung/dp/B08RRTLX71
shetty08 said:
Hello Everyone,
Been using the S21U for 2 weeks now and I have recently noticed micro scratches on the lens element!
The phone is in transparent TPU case since day 1 and I have hardly went outdoors. I traded off my S20+ and the camera bump didn't had a single line from 10 months of usage.
Has anyone encountered this? Maybe others can have a closer look now at their devices.
Any insights, suggestions on what needs to be done or can be prevented will be welcome!
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I solved all these problems I bought
Galaxy S21 Ultra Case with Camera Cover,S21 Ultra Slim
oraned said:
I solved all these problems I bought
Galaxy S21 Ultra Case with Camera Cover,S21 Ultra Slim
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I had one of these on my note20u ugliest case ever! But yeah it did its job of protecting.
blackhawk said:
If it's on the internal side there's no way you did. Make sure you specify that if returning it.
If it's on the inside without direct inspection it's hard to tell if it's on or into the glass.
It may simple be a smear albeit a hard to remove smear.
Either way shoddy assembly. Having put together thousands of display assemblies I was always careful that the internal surfaces were spotless.
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hey man,
this smear or minute lines on the inside or whatever is really bugging me!
My experience with samsung support (In my region and India) hasn't been good in the past. They all act as fools who recommend factory reset via their tool for every issue.
My question is will samsung own this or pass on the blame to me as improper handling or usage marks.
I just don't want the already botched up image processing to suffer further.
shetty08 said:
hey man,
this smear or minute lines on the inside or whatever is really bugging me!
My experience with samsung support (In my region and India) hasn't been good in the past. They all act as fools who recommend factory reset via their tool for every issue.
My question is will samsung own this or pass on the blame to me as improper handling or usage marks.
I just don't want the already botched up image processing to suffer further.
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Samsung phone support sucks, real bad.
You can send it in as it's clearly their fault but that will take a lot of time.
Remove back cover and clean or replace if need be. Make sure you have the OEM adhesive strips needed to reassemble it. The replacement lense protector is held on by an adhesive strip*.
It may be easier to get the whole OEM rear panel assembly.
If you do it yourself use heat carefully/evenly and take as long as it takes to carefully pry it open without breaking it. A small amount of isopropyl alcohol can be injected to help break the adhesive seal.
*it maybe replaceable without taking off the rear cover but that maybe hard or impossible to do without marring the cover.
adamlee2012 said:
Keys/coins couldn't scratch the glass anyway. Physically impossible as the glass is harder.
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Sand will easily scratch it. The OP stated that the marks are on the inside, an assembly blunder.
satanatos said:
Really sorry to hear that. Just out of precaution, I have placed a whitestone dome glass protector on mine, just because I dont want to experience anything like that with a EUR1300 phone. Not that much expensive and you get two protectors in the box.
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I just got the Whitestone lens protector myself it's pretty awesome stays on REAL well and adds a bit more sexiness to the already sexy camera bump