I know that the intuitive thing would be that the dev addition would get more support, but is it possible that the AT&T or Sprint or T-Mobile will get more because more people will have it. And I know not cases, and they are the exact same body. I mean ROM support.
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I think that the insides are exactly the same so they (dev and regular unlocked) should be able to run the same stuff. The only thing different is that the dev edition is supposed to have 64gbs and an unlocked bootloader. Big whooooooooop... that's so easy to do with HTCDev anyways...
My question is: is there honestly going to be a big difference btwn carrier based devices and the international? Shouldn't they be able to run the same exact ROMs and stuff?!?
Well with my current phone (att optimus g) you can't run the sprint ROMs on att, but then again the att version is slightly differently shaped. The reason why I can't run sprint ROMs is because of different partitions. I hope this doesn't occur with the one, because then the dev version may have less support that a regular one.
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Another plus is no att bloat and the dev edition will receive updates quicker
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Another plus is no att bloat and the dev edition will receive updates quicker
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Would it really be quicker? i mean once HTC releases an update for the dev phone wont it be the next base for our devs to use to create roms? We wouldn't be using it in its stock form anyway. Bloat isn't an issue once rooted. Are the specs any different from the International and ATT version? I'm hoping its identical.
Hopefully we can get supercid so we can install dev ruus if needed. I think there is gonna be a lot more dev interest in this one (pun intended) That means more brains for s-off. Hopefully the recent qualcom s-off for the ATT One X will help out.
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Would it really be quicker? i mean once HTC releases an update for the dev phone wont it be the next base for our devs to use to create roms? We wouldn't be using it in its stock form anyway. Bloat isn't an issue once rooted. Are the specs any different from the International and ATT version? I'm hoping its identical.
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Well my point was in stock form it would be quicker for those who own it, me included since I ordered one this morning
And the radios are different in the international versions
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Hey, I live in Canada and I am with wind. I am really tempted to purchase the HTC one developer edition through a friend of mine. I know that it does not support the HSPA+ 1700Mhz network used by wind and TMO. However, the decive itself does. Would I be able to flash the TMO radio on it once they release the device, and just buy the developer edition beforehand? Just want to make sure that this would work.
People are saying that might be possible, but no one knows for sure until it has been done (not yet).
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Hey, I live in Canada and I am with wind. I am really tempted to purchase the HTC one developer edition through a friend of mine. I know that it does not support the HSPA+ 1700Mhz network used by wind and TMO. However, the decive itself does. Would I be able to flash the TMO radio on it once they release the device, and just buy the developer edition beforehand? Just want to make sure that this would work.
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We're going to need S-Off for that and who knows when that will happen. And even then, no one really knows if it will work
Well, the developer edition will have s-off, or at least that's what I have heard. Getting the radio might be tricky, but knowing the devs on here someone will work it out. I was just wondering whether it would be physically feasible to get the missing frequency.
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Well, the developer edition will have s-off, or at least that's what I have heard. Getting the radio might be tricky, but knowing the devs on here someone will work it out. I was just wondering whether it would be physically feasible to get the missing frequency.
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The dev. edition has unlocked bootloader... NOT s-off.
EDIT: No s-off confirmed by HTCdev twitter: https://twitter.com/htcdev/status/320021639762944001
OK, I guess I was wrong there. Still, after rooting my HTC hero in 2009, my sisters desire in 10, my lg p999 in 11, friends Samsung galaxy s2 in 12, I should be able to get my HTC one a new radio in a month or so, once everyone gets their hands on this awesome device.
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Some of the later HTC devices, like my Amaze, only got S-Off by using a wire trick, which requires physical access to the inside of the phone (in the case of the Amaze, easily done by taking the back cover off). I wonder if S-Off will be possible on the One without physically disassembling it.
http://unlimited.io/juopunutbear.htm .... Step 3, wire trick, which is needed for the phones listed.
Has this been done before on other HTC devices? I've preordered the 64 gb developer edition but am having second thoughts.
The reason I ask is that I bought the International version of the Galaxy note 1 with the expectation that one of our very talented developers could hack the radio to make the Tmobile band active... and it turned out to be way more complicated than anyone gave it credit for. Still not done for that note 1.
I'd like to feel a little more comfortable that this can be done with the One.
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it is interesting, should be an easy fix but here in canada the only provider that is worth paying for is WIND. For $40 you get unlimited, calls, texting and data. Everywhere else it is $60 for a gig or less. So, naturally I want to stick with my provider, the only bummer is that they use the HSPA+ networks, same as T-Mobile.
The unlocked phone also cost $250 more here for some weird reason.
I don't think it will be possible, I'm sure I read that the alternative frequencies burnt off the driver chip. It might have been in the Anandtech review.
Just contacted HTC, got this as an answer ot the S-off of the Developer edition.
"Thanks for contacting HTC Technical Support Center.
Dear Balint, I am glad to know that you are a member of the HTC family and I will be more than happy to assist you.
Regarding the first question, your HTC One has the S-off."
so it is off, and have been confirmed.
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Just contacted HTC, got this as an answer ot the S-off of the Developer edition.
"Thanks for contacting HTC Technical Support Center.
Dear Balint, I am glad to know that you are a member of the HTC family and I will be more than happy to assist you.
Regarding the first question, your HTC One has the S-off."
so it is off, and have been confirmed.
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Seems like you should believe this when an S-Off phone is in your hands.
I have 64GB Developer Edition and it says Unlock with S-ON this is Popoo Im so mad at HTC it also says SIMLOCK I dont get it.
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Well, the developer edition will have s-off, or at least that's what I have heard. Getting the radio might be tricky, but knowing the devs on here someone will work it out. I was just wondering whether it would be physically feasible to get the missing frequency.
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I have 64GB Developer Edition and it says Unlock with S-ON this is Popoo Im so mad at HTC it also says SIMLOCK I dont get it.
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I don't think HTC ever said the dev edition was going to be S-Off, just bootloader unlocked and SIM unlocked.
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Ok, Thanks But why it says on Bootloader SIMLOCK?
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I don't think HTC ever said the dev edition was going to be S-Off, just bootloader unlocked and SIM unlocked.
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Ok, Thanks But why it says on Bootloader SIMLOCK?
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With an s-on radio hack now available is it possible for this to be tested?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2245615
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With an s-on radio hack now available is it possible for this to be tested?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2245615
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I would like to know as well.
I flashed the T-Mobile radio last week and don't get HSPA on 1700MHZ. I continue to get LTE and I still get HSPA on the refarmed towers. How do I know? I have an older T-Mobile branded phone that I can compare against. At home I get nothing better than EDGE on my Developer Edition One but I get HSPA on my other phone (T-Mobile branded). If I travel down the road a little ways I get LTE and HSPA on the One.
BTW, there are a TON of threads in this and the other One forums that are discussing the T-Mobile radio on the Developer Edition One and it seems the consensus is that you need to change your CID and, to do that, you need S-OFF. MobileTechVideos.com has supposedly gotten S-OFF with a JTAG rig and, a little more tecently, without using a wire. Check their Facebook page for that info -- http://www.facebook.com/pages/MobileTechVideos/182579981788132
We have S-OFF!
Time to kickstart this discussion back up now that S-OFF is in our hands. Thanks to Revolutionary.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314582
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Time to kickstart this discussion back up now that S-OFF is in our hands. Thanks to Revolutionary.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314582
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:good: to this! If anyone needs a guinea pig to test with, I have a newly s-off'ed Dev Edition in a non refarmed rural area. Just have no idea when it comes to software hacks as I'm mainly a hardware hacker/hobbyist. I miss the 3G I had with my One S, but I'm loving the 64 gigs on the One!
Hey guys - I currently own the One on AT&T and am loving it so far.
Are there any advantages to owning the AT&T version vs the USA unlocked version from HTC?
I'm thinking of returning the AT&T one and getting the unlocked version mainly so I can get HTC updates directly from HTC rather than waiting for AT&T to roll them out.
Both have LTE bands for AT&T, so that's not an issue.
Any reason why I should keep the AT&T one instead of the unlocked?
Thanks in advance.
The AT&T version has a fantastic logo on the back of the phone.
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Also with the AT&T version you might have to wait an extra day to get a flashable ROM of the latest OTA
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Hey guys - I currently own the One on AT&T and am loving it so far.
Are there any advantages to owning the AT&T version vs the USA unlocked version from HTC?
I'm thinking of returning the AT&T one and getting the unlocked version mainly so I can get HTC updates directly from HTC rather than waiting for AT&T to roll them out.
Both have LTE bands for AT&T, so that's not an issue.
Any reason why I should keep the AT&T one instead of the unlocked?
Thanks in advance.
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Since you can unlock the bootloader via htcdev and then load whatever rom you want it's probably not worth the hassle and restocking fee. Although I have the dev version it remains to be seen how htc will update this device or at what frequency. An update is already out for the international phones that has yet to make it to the dev. edition. I'm keeping mine stock for now, but may go the customer route at some point. Either version is a great phone.
If you would rather stay stock and still get the latest updates, get the unlocked or developer edition. If you don't mind unlocking your bootloader and flashing an RUU or custom ROM each time an update is released by HTC, stick with the AT&T version.
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Since you can unlock the bootloader via htcdev and then load whatever rom you want it's probably not worth the hassle and restocking fee. Although I have the dev version it remains to be seen how htc will update this device or at what frequency. An update is already out for the international phones that has yet to make it to the dev. edition. I'm keeping mine stock for now, but may go the customer route at some point. Either version is a great phone.
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At least the unlocked and dev editions are already running a version of the 1.29 firmware though. The AT&T variant is still on 1.26, two major versions behind (1.26 -> 1.28 -> 1.29).
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At least the unlocked and dev editions are already running a version of the 1.29 firmware though. The AT&T variant is still on 1.26, two major versions behind (1.26 -> 1.28 -> 1.29).
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I've flashed 1.29 so could you please elaborate on what's considered "major" about 1.29 vs 1.26?
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Camera is better. There are bluetooth fixes. Speakers can no longer go as loud (not all changes are necessarily positive depending on your point of view).
Search XDA. These changes have already been well discussed.
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I've flashed 1.29 so could you please elaborate on what's considered "major" about 1.29 vs 1.26?
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Strictly talking about the build number, 1.26 vs. 1.29 is major, whereas 1.29.xxx.3 vs. 1.29.xxx.13 is minor. Right now the AT&T version isn't far behind, but wait until something like 1.50 or whatever Android 4.2 corresponds with comes out and the AT&T version is left running 1.26 unless you unlock and ROM.
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Since you can unlock the bootloader via htcdev and then load whatwill rom you want it's probably not worth the hassle and restocking fee. Although I have the dev version it remains to be seen how htc will update this device or at what frequency. An update is already out for the international phones that has yet to make it to the dev. edition. I'm keeping mine stock for now, but may go the customer route at some point. Either version is a great phone.
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Thanks guys.
Are they updating the USA 32gb unlocked at the same frequency as the 64gb dev version? or will they update the 32gb the same time they update intl phones.
Also, if I flash new roms as they come out through the hacker channels, will I need to reinstall everything from scratch for each Rom upgrade?
Thanks again.
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flooty333 said:
Thanks guys.
Are they updating the USA 32gb unlocked at the same frequency as the 64gb dev version? or will they update the 32gb the same time they update intl phones.
Also, if I flash new roms as they come out through the hacker channels, will I need to reinstall everything from scratch for each Rom upgrade?
Thanks again.
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Also consider this, the developer edition comes with NO ATT BLOATWARE.
I have the 64 mb developer edition, just installed Visual Voice mail, LTE speeds are incredible,
and the IMEI was able to be used for the ATT network. This is as close to perfect
as you can get! Incredible piece of hardware.
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flooty333 said:
Hey guys - I currently own the One on AT&T and am loving it so far.
Are there any advantages to owning the AT&T version vs the USA unlocked version from HTC?
I'm thinking of returning the AT&T one and getting the unlocked version mainly so I can get HTC updates directly from HTC rather than waiting for AT&T to roll them out.
Both have LTE bands for AT&T, so that's not an issue.
Any reason why I should keep the AT&T one instead of the unlocked?
Thanks in advance.
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Unless you're looking to get the phone subsidized, I see no reason to buy the AT&T model over the unlocked or developer one.
Only reason I can think of is dealing with AT&T for warranty issues is easier and faster than HTC.
I got the HTC unlocked 32GB version direct from HTC (arrived early...it was backordered and I paid for 2-day but HTC upgraded it to 1-day delivery. They shipped Saturday and I got it Monday).
What I noticed (coming from previous AT&T Note 2, S3 and Infuse) on AT&T...
1) no AT&T bloatware (as others have mentioned)...I was shocked how few apps were actually "running"...just a handful. I liked it.
2) tethering (no rooting required) for my occasional use of my iPad mini while on the road.
3) LTE is extremely fast compared to my Samsung's but not sure if that is a unlock versus AT&T issue?? Previously I just assumed LTE coverage was poor in my home. But with the HTC One it screams. Really surprised.
that's it.
So far I have avoided rooting since I want to become familiar with stock Sense, etc...then decide how much I want to play. I do expect to root eventually but stick to the popular stock-like roms (personally can't stand the CM's, etc.)
I see a few posts talking about changing Model Id numbers and or converting to a Google edition. Can this be done on the Sprint variant? I'm very disappointed that there are no roms for my phone. I am contemplating returning the phone and getting an S4.
There are roms for you phone in the sprint HTC one section
And to answer you question, no.
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Wow do I feel like an idiot. I didn't even realize there was a specific forum for the sprint version. Thanks bud.
Trading my gs4 for a Verizon HTC one today. Based on what I am reading it looks like the Roms from the general HTC one Dev section work on the vzw phone as well. Is this really the case? Every phone I have had before this was a big no no to use other phone version Roms so I wanted someone with htc one experience to clarify for me. Thanks!
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Trading my gs4 for a Verizon HTC one today. Based on what I am reading it looks like the Roms from the general HTC one Dev section work on the vzw phone as well. Is this really the case? Every phone I have had before this was a big no no to use other phone version Roms so I wanted someone with htc one experience to clarify for me. Thanks!
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Actually, Verizon is not a GSM variant of the HTC One, so most ROMs in here won't work. I think you should check: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-htc-one
If you do end up flashing a ROM from here make sure it says VERIZON compatible; most ROMs already state "except for Sprint", but that also means Verizon AFAIK.