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So I am considering buying the Nook Color for use with an Android ROM ideally honeycomb and Instead of having to sort through tons of threads I think a single one would be nice for those also thinking about jumping in.
Most of these will be in reference to android phones and relating the experience since that's all I have to go off.
I have a SGS Captivate
Battery life compared to phone?
Usability? Speed, what is working what isn't? Does it feel like a step back when coming from a high end smart phone?
Video? Sound? etc
I know these questions have been answered somewhere, but having a single thread dedicated to answering questions for users looking to jump in with the Nook Color hacking would be nice, IMHO.
Thanks for all the help.
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Anyone who has done this how is it related to your android phone if you have one. I'm really interested in this but if it will feel like a step back from the phones i don't know if it's worth it?
I have a Droid X and the nook running CM7.
Right now the nook is very comparable to the X. With the beta rom it is still a little chopy but web browsing is so much better on the bigger and higher resolution screen. I don't boot up my computer as much for casual web browsing as much as I use to. It is nice being able to browse anywhere in my house(I'm writing this while cooking dinner) , or while watching TV.
Apps are still hit or miss on CM7 right now (Pandora doesn't work) and I'm not much of a gamer so I'll leave that to others.
Thanks so much I'm pretty excited to try this out. Hopefully it is as good as I think it can be. I know it won't be a xoom. But it should be sweet.
I have an HTC Incredible which should be similarly performing to the Captivate.
The DINC has the worst battery life of any Android phone I've seen so that's not maybe the best comparison, but I use my nook several hours a day and manage several days between charges. I think battery life is impressive.
Out of the box, the speed is noticeably slower, but not that bad. Running an OC'd 1100mhz kernel I get a much higher quadrant score (around 1150) than my stock DINC. The NC's improvement is significant.
I haven't installed a different ROM since I'm waiting for a daily driver stable honeycomb. That beings said, I have absolutely zeros problems using my NC daily as a tablet. I find it much easier than the smaller screen on my phone. Nor have I encountered anything I wanted to do that didn't work almost perfectly.
Video is a bit more pixelated than I'd like but I haven't spent a lot of time looking into it. Sound is pretty good, and the built in speaker is better than expected. I have heard of issues with the headphone jack.
All in all it's a great investment of $250. You could get a more fully featured tablet for the price of three NC's. I don't think the additional features are worth the cost difference, especially when you add in the amazing work done by the xda Devs.
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So I am considering buying the Nook Color for use with an Android ROM ideally honeycomb...
Most of these will be in reference to android phones and relating the experience since that's all I have to go off.
I have a SGS Captivate.
Battery life compared to phone? Usability? Speed, what is working what isn't? Does it feel like a step back when coming from a high end smart phone? Video? Sound? etc
Thanks for all the help.
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I don't boot up my computer as much for casual web browsing as much as I use to.
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I used to spend a couple of hours every evening sitting at my desktop PC browsing the net and reading forums. In the couple of weeks since getting and rooting the NC, I think I've fired up my PC four times. Now I do my nightly surfing from the couch next to my wife while she watches TV and she feels much less neglected. ;-)
Ars Technica wrote a nice feature article today that should answer all your questions.
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/guides/2011/02/howto-root-a-nook-color-to-transform-it-into-an-android-tablet.ars
Thanks for the responses this is helpful
I'm planing on using this as an ebook reader some just because the screen size would be nicer than my phone, but also like you said web, stuff like that. Keep the personal experiences coming they are very helpful for us who are hesitant to join in.
The nook is not perfect but its impossible to beat for the price. As other have said I fire up my computer far less than before. I have an evo and I would say that the NC feels as snappy and maybe even snappier. The thing I can tell you is that I was a for sure for the Xoom but the NC and all of its hacks help me to make the decision that I can wait. 100% happy with the Nook and I think most anyone else would be also.
jlt220 said:
So I am considering buying the Nook Color for use with an Android ROM ideally honeycomb and Instead of having to sort through tons of threads I think a single one would be nice for those also thinking about jumping in.
Most of these will be in reference to android phones and relating the experience since that's all I have to go off.
I have a SGS Captivate
Battery life compared to phone?
Usability? Speed, what is working what isn't? Does it feel like a step back when coming from a high end smart phone?
Video? Sound? etc
I know these questions have been answered somewhere, but having a single thread dedicated to answering questions for users looking to jump in with the Nook Color hacking would be nice, IMHO.
Thanks for all the help.
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I also have a captivate since release day (and got the pleasure of gettint a new one in December due to random shutdowns) and I can say the battery life on the nook is way better than any sgs rom even the stock eclair. I also don't browse on my phone anywhere near as much as I used to. The nook color doesn't have the most features, the fastest cpu, or even the best screen but for the price it blows everything else away hands down. Honestly its one of the few "toys" I've gotten in a while that I haven't had an ounce of buyers remorse with
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I love my honeycomb. Its really fast and it has only minor issues. Mine is 100% reliable and i use it everyday and i only use my laptop for downloading roms and/or flashing sd cards. I have a rooted rom'd and oc'd droid 1 at 1300mhz and while i love my droid, i hardly use it anymore.
I really recommend it and emmc honeycomb is awesome. The lack of gps is the biggest thing for me, but o well... my rooted droid has one so its fine for me.
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hello all, I've never had anything android and want something reliable and easy to use. I've about to go with a NC. I know I will have to root it and from the youtube video's i've seen its definatly doable for me. I have a friend who has the NC rooted but it still looks like a Nook but allows apps to be added. Is there a way to get change whatever it is and make it look more like a typical android device?
I think this is called a launcher but I'm not at all sure.
You could go two ways to get a more normal android experience:
1. Yea, go into the market or sideload a new launcher, which will change your browsing experience to something you're more accustomed to.
2. Flash an entirely new ROM to your nook, such as Nookie Froyo or Cyanogenmod 7.
The first will be easiest but the second will get you a lot more features such as flash...and some additional headaches.
I am still a rookie to all of this. I have only had mine for a day. To answer your question yes you can. Head over to newegg and pick up a class 6 micro sd card 8gb. You can then flash a bootable rom to the card pop it in the nook and be good to go. It looks like froyo 2.6.8 iirc is the most stable. There are writeups all over to do this. start with the thread idiots guide, so you got a nook color; or something along those lines. g/l
I use ADW Launcher (paid version) on all my droid devices.
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hello all, I've never had anything android and want something reliable and easy to use. I've about to go with a NC. I know I will have to root it and from the youtube video's i've seen its definatly doable for me. I have a friend who has the NC rooted but it still looks like a Nook but allows apps to be added. Is there a way to get change whatever it is and make it look more like a typical android device?
I think this is called a launcher but I'm not at all sure.
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I am absolutely not trying to start a flame war - a nook color may be precisely right for you. I have a nook color, an iphone, macbook air, and dell laptop - and like diversity. I bought a nook color as I'm playing around with android app development.
The nook color can be repurposed off the original barnes and noble software to run a variety of versions of android - all of which are at some level of maturity which should improve over time. I picked a version of froyo which is pretty stable - but which required some fiddling to get the market started (clearing various cache's, stopping processes, rebooting) and running a program to fool the market (market enabler) to show *all* the apps. I don't mind doing this - its like a sudoku. I've got gmail and google maps, and flash as well. And if you are more adventurous you can load the cyanogen mod or a honeycomb preview - you'll likely hit a few more bugs but will get to play with some very exciting toys.
But if I was buying a tablet for my wife - who is a phd engineer and is *good* with computers - I'll get an ipad 2 (partly for the front facing camera). For my mom I would absolutely get the ipad. Absolutely no fiddling albeit with restrictions on what you can do. You should really play with both to get a feel for what you want. Ipad is beautiful, very easy to use and intuitive, and apple stuff really is *fun* to use in my opinion.
A modified nook color running froyo will only be a *little* harder to use/configure than a new android phone which lots of people are comfortable with. If you are comfortable with working through the xda forums and can follow most of the discussions here, you will likely not be bothered by the fiddling that may be required. And if you have a higher curiousity/frustration threshold - then you can play with even more exciting ROMS with their issues around video play back or flash. There are absolutely *lots* of ways to change the look of your nook color.
A nook color is a very good deal - you can find ipad 1's (original) at pretty good prices today as well. If the ipad 2 was the same price as a nook color and I was focused on end use I'd buy the ipad 2 - but its $300 more.
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Hello all. I am very interested in the Nook Color or the Samsung Galaxy Tab (Wifi). I just don't know which one to purchase. I do read a lot of books so I like the NC, but for a hundred extra dollars should I just get the Sammy Tab which has a faster processor? Basically, I was wondering if you guys would still be using the NC if you had the cash right now or would you have gone the other route? Thanks in advance and cheers.
tfotos said:
Hello all. I am very interested in the Nook Color or the Samsung Galaxy Tab (Wifi). I just don't know which one to purchase. I do read a lot of books so I like the NC, but for a hundred extra dollars should I just get the Sammy Tab which has a faster processor? Basically, I was wondering if you guys would still be using the NC if you had the cash right now or would you have gone the other route? Thanks in advance and cheers.
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Well, you're talking $250 vs $350 basically. The Galaxy Tab will have nice features like camera, etc. You don't have to put a custom ROM on it, it is supposed to even get Honeycomb (offical) some time in the future I guess. However, if you are willing to spend $350 on a tablet, I would suggest you pony up another $50 and get the Asus Transformer.
That being said though, cost wise you can't beat the Nook for features and custom ROM support.
I hear ya. The one thing that keeps drawing me to the Nook Color (aside from its price) is the fact that I love using my e-ink Nook for reading. I like the fact that the primary purpose of the NC is for books. How is the operating system on the NC? I heard that it got froyo. Is there access to the android market or do you have to root/flash to use it like a tab? Are movies OK to watch on it? I have seen the Asus Transformer, but I think that it is kind of ugly. I know the hardware is a beast, but the bezel around it is kind of huge isn't it? Aesthetically I like how the NC and the Sammy Tab look, and I like the 7 inch size. I am thinking portability. Who knows though, I could always change my mind and get a 10 inch tablet.
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I hear ya. The one thing that keeps drawing me to the Nook Color (aside from its price) is the fact that I love using my e-ink Nook for reading. I like the fact that the primary purpose of the NC is for books. How is the operating system on the NC? I heard that it got froyo. Is there access to the android market or do you have to root/flash to use it like a tab? Are movies OK to watch on it? I have seen the Asus Transformer, but I think that it is kind of ugly. I know the hardware is a beast, but the bezel around it is kind of huge isn't it? Aesthetically I like how the NC and the Sammy Tab look, and I like the 7 inch size. I am thinking portability. Who knows though, I could always change my mind and get a 10 inch tablet.
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Well, if you stick with the stock Nook software you only get access to the B&N appstore thing. I've heard it is pretty limited and the apps are more expensive than their Android Market and Amazon Appstore counterparts. I couldn't tell you much about it though. Within 5 minutes of my Nook charging up I installed the CM7 Gingerbread build on it and it works great! So I never played around with the 1.2 NC version of Android.
Also, the screen on the NC is LCD, not eInk, and while the resolution is nice, it still will cause more eye strain than eInk or paper. So you might not enjoy reading on it as much as you think! I find it comfortable though.
I still think you should stay away from the Galaxy Tab right now. It is sure to have some sales as soon as they release their new tablets (an 8.9" and a 10") which are faster, strong, meatier.
As for movies, I also don't know how the NC stock OS works with media. I'm using an app called MoboPlayer which seems to play just about every video format I have without an issue. Prior to that with the base CM7 (and I'm assuming stock NC) I could only play 1-2 formats...don't even remember which ones anymore. I hate converting video, so I found another solution right away.
I hope that helps, and honestly, for $200 (used) - $250 (new), you won't get better than the NC at this point in time.
There are 2 Nook Colors in my house.... One is rooted with original B&N 1.1 software, which gives you a stock E-reader with access to the Android Market. I find this setup to be a bit quirky for my liking (it's my wife's Nook). I've not tried playing video on this particular Nook, but the market & apps work fine. My Nook is rooted and running Cyanogen CM7.0.0 Gingerbread from internal memory and is overclocked to 1.2 GHz (from the standard Nook 800 MHz processor). It is very stable and video playback is excellent, however the Nook App from the Market is not as user friendly as the B & N version (not a big deal to me it still works for the amount of reading I do). I find the 7" size is perfect and I take my Nook EVERYWHERE with me. I get about 2 days between plug-ins with moderate use and it tethers perfectly with my phone. I don't believe I'd be so willing to carry it with me all of the time if it was any bigger though. I don't think I'd trade my Nook for anything shy of an Xoom which I believe is about $600 right now.
The wifi Galaxy Tab has the same GPU as the Nook Color, and the same CPU. Once you overclock the Nook Color CPU it can be equal or better.
It comes down to paying extra if you want built in cameras and a GPS.
Thanks to all for the great info. If I wanted to..could I run CM 7 from the sd card like they do for Honeycomb, thus keeping my NC stock for when I do want to use it for reading? I read a lot and love the original stock interface for my reading and shopping. I am headed out the door now and I am coming back with either the Sammy Tab or the Nook. I'm leaning heavily towards the Nook though.
tfotos said:
Thanks to all for the great info. If I wanted to..could I run CM 7 from the sd card like they do for Honeycomb, thus keeping my NC stock for when I do want to use it for reading? I read a lot and love the original stock interface for my reading and shopping. I am headed out the door now and I am coming back with either the Sammy Tab or the Nook. I'm leaning heavily towards the Nook though.
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Yes you can. However if you have no use for Nook Kids or Nook magazines, you can just install the nook android app and read books from it. Or you can use a bunch of other pdf, epub, doc readers.
The only benefit to stock is those two features. So up to you.
tfotos said:
Thanks to all for the great info. If I wanted to..could I run CM 7 from the sd card like they do for Honeycomb, thus keeping my NC stock for when I do want to use it for reading? I read a lot and love the original stock interface for my reading and shopping. I am headed out the door now and I am coming back with either the Sammy Tab or the Nook. I'm leaning heavily towards the Nook though.
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Yes. You can run CM7 from the sd card and even run a rooted BN version on the internal memory for the best of both worlds.
I agree with previous posts...
in addition, I could say that the only things I really miss on my Nook (more then gps and camera) are the aptik feedback (vibrations, specially on the keyboard) and a microphone for voice recognition... instead I think that both things are on Galaxy tab (but I'm not sure)...
more then galaxy, you can have on Nook Color a great devs community here at xda! other then save 100$ ...
tfotos said:
Thanks to all for the great info. If I wanted to..could I run CM 7 from the sd card like they do for Honeycomb, thus keeping my NC stock for when I do want to use it for reading? I read a lot and love the original stock interface for my reading and shopping. I am headed out the door now and I am coming back with either the Sammy Tab or the Nook. I'm leaning heavily towards the Nook though.
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Better yet, you can split the internal drive partition, and allow for dual booting partitions on internal. That way, you can run stock on one partition, and CM7 on the other and not have to worry about carrying around a bootable sd card all the time. You can boot from CM7 into stock and vice/vs in literally 45 seconds, pnce you take the 30 minutes to get it all set up.
Check me here: http://www.mobileunderground.info/showthread.php?t=51217&p=84794
Well, I thank all of you for your input. I literally spent an hour just messing with both the SGT and the NC. The SGT was a little faster and more responsive but I think that was due to the differences in the UI's themselves. There is only a 200 mhz difference in the processors. I did like the fact that the SGT had front and rear facing cameras, as well as the android market already rocking. BUT..I picked up the Nook Color for two big reasons. The first being that I am an avid book reader, and love the fact that you can boot from SD so I can still have the stock Nook reading experience as well as Gingerbread. The second reason is the modding community here on XDA; you guys pretty much talked me into it. So thanks for all the responses. I am a new Nook Color owner.
Am a happy user of a dual-booting Nook Color running CM 7.0.2 off sd-card, with little need for a camera.
However, being someone who appreciates how much lighter the Nook is compared to the iPad, I'd like to point out that the Nook is ~30% heavier than the Galaxy Tab.
The SGT was a lot thicker. I did not notice a huge difference in weight though.
I am surfing the forums from my NC right now and loving it. Can't wait to load up Gingerbread! Unfortunately I have to work in about an hour, so I will be reading all I can on flashing a new rom onto this. Thanks again guys and gals.
furius said:
I agree with previous posts...
in addition, I could say that the only things I really miss on my Nook (more then gps and camera) are the aptik feedback (vibrations, specially on the keyboard) and a microphone for voice recognition... instead I think that both things are on Galaxy tab (but I'm not sure)...
more then galaxy, you can have on Nook Color a great devs community here at xda! other then save 100$ ...
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Yeah...if the NC had a microphone it would be doubly awesome. That is a limiting thing that made me think twice, but for the price vs features, I still couldn't find better. I'm only OCed to the CM7 default 925Mhz and I haven't had any video playback issues. Watched a few episodes of the Big Bang Theory just yesterday.
Since the Nook's froyo update can you still over clock it? Also, how is battery life after you flash gingerbread or honeycomb?
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Since the Nook's froyo update can you still over clock it? Also, how is battery life after you flash gingerbread or honeycomb?
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I haven't run Honeycomb, but running CM7 from EMMC overclocked to 1.3 GHz, my battery life is about 2 days between charges with moderate use....facebook, email, streaming videos and reading the news. My wife's Nook with rooted stock firmware is definately easier on the power consumption, but not nearly as capable of a machine.
Running CM7 with 1.3 GHz kernel, I think the only missing thing is the camera for me...
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Running CM7 with 1.3 GHz kernel, I think the only missing thing is the camera for me...
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Just curious and truly not trying to be a smartass or anything, but why would you use a camera on a tablet? I mean cell phones are near dedicated digital camera quality and easier to use. I guess I just don't get the desire for a tablet with a camera unless its front facing for video calling...but honestly, if you called me on the phone and I was home you probably wouldn't want the camera turned on anyway...trust me on that one.
I would agree about the camera thing on a tablet. It seems like it would be awkward snapping photos with it. It may be cool for skyping maybe. Usually if I'm going to use the webcam I'm at home so the kids can talk to everyone too.
I'm very happy with the manualnooter setup for the new update. I like the stock feel and apps while having the ability to overclock, use the market, etc. After all, I do use it for reading. But is there nothing more to develop with this setup until B&N releases a new update? Maybe the ability to merge specific CM7 features with it to gain performance if nothing else?
Honestly, I'm not seeing any reason these days to switch back to CM7. The only thing currently on my wishlist is better flash browsing performance. But that's more of a hardware issue than anything from what I've read.
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I'm very happy with the manualnooter setup for the new update. I like the stock feel and apps while having the ability to overclock, use the market, etc. After all, I do use it for reading. But is there nothing more to develop with this setup until B&N releases a new update? Maybe the ability to merge specific CM7 features with it to gain performance if nothing else?
Honestly, I'm not seeing any reason these days to switch back to CM7. The only thing currently on my wishlist is better flash browsing performance. But that's more of a hardware issue than anything from what I've read.
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Thankfully, all of the current developer resources are being spent on more fruitful ventures like CM7. Sorry, but sticking with the old OS is silly, unless you specifically need the nook app features. CM7 has more hardware features enabled, a new OS, and a good classic Android experience (none of B&N's blah framework).
I think the best that stock users can hope for is some newer kernels every now and then, but ill be honest; i really hope he keeps up with CM7 first and foremost. Again, it is the better OS, and more deserving of the development time.
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Thankfully, all of the current developer resources are being spent on more fruitful ventures like CM7. Sorry, but sticking with the old OS is silly, unless you specifically need the nook app features. CM7 has more hardware features enabled, a new OS, and a good classic Android experience (none of B&N's blah framework).
I think the best that stock users can hope for is some newer kernels every now and then, but ill be honest; i really hope he keeps up with CM7 first and foremost. Again, it is the better OS, and more deserving of the development time.
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Bluetooth thats not very useful/practical. Decreased battery life. No stock B&N reader app (the market one doesn't have near the stock's polish).
I'm not sure why this makes the ROOTED stock OS "silly." This is, of curse, coming from a non-developer/programmer. Standing plainly from a consumer perspective, I don't see the "blah" framework nor do i care since the performance seems to be nearly the same. I'm not getting into a Quadrant score argument here either .
That being said, honeycomb would be deserving of my attention....with the B&N reader. haha.
*I realize this might read as being negative, but I promise you it's not. I'm just carrying a conversation of the pros/cons. I obviously appreciate the development, whichever way it goes, because it benefits everybody.*
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Bluetooth thats not very useful/practical. Decreased battery life. No stock B&N reader app (the market one doesn't have near the stock's polish).
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Sorry, but that is crazy. The bluetooth is incredibly useful. It allows me to use the Nook as a standalone nav device (and let me tell you, nav on a 7" rocks), or use my bluetooth speaker set. The battery life is fine for what it is. even overclocked, i have never run out of battery in a heavy days use. Charge at night, and i am good to go. I understand the reader, which is why i gave it as the one exception.
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I'm not sure why this makes the ROOTED stock OS "silly." This is, of curse, coming from a non-developer/programmer. Standing plainly from a consumer perspective, I don't see the "blah" framework nor do i care since the performance seems to be nearly the same. I'm not getting into a Quadrant score argument here either .
That being said, honeycomb would be deserving of my attention....with the B&N reader. haha.
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I am talking as a consumer as well. I hated the changes B&N made to the Android look and feel. I understand it was done with the goal of making it an eReader, but given an alternative, i had no desire to keep it. Even benchmarks aside, Ginerbread has always felt faster (and has better app and memory management).
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*I realize this might read as being negative, but I promise you it's not. I'm just carrying a conversation of the pros/cons. I obviously appreciate the development, whichever way it goes, because it benefits everybody.*
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I have no problems with discussion.
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I understand the reader, which is why i gave it as the one exception.
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Yeah, but the reader is a pretty big exception depending on what you use the Nook Color for. While I can't see myself going back to stock OS from CM7, I have to say that the B&N reader in the market blows in comparison to what comes stock on the NC. Most critically, opening a book with highlighting can take 1 1/2 to 2 minutes on the App, wheras it's instant on the stock reader.
My Nook Color journey will be complete and I'll finally be able to use this thing the way I truly want when (1) Movies play as well on my NC as they did on BN OS 1.1, and (2) the Nook App for Android opens books as quickly as the stock reader does.
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Yeah, but the reader is a pretty big exception depending on what you use the Nook Color for. While I can't see myself going back to stock OS from CM7, I have to say that the B&N reader in the market blows in comparison to what comes stock on the NC. Most critically, opening a book with highlighting can take 1 1/2 to 2 minutes on the App, wheras it's instant on the stock reader.
My Nook Color journey will be complete and I'll finally be able to use this thing the way I truly want when (1) Movies play as well on my NC as they did on BN OS 1.1, and (2) the Nook App for Android opens books as quickly as the stock reader does.
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The reader is the only reason I can justify having a tablet. The Transformer is REALLY tempting but I can't really find a specific use aside from the "because I can," attitude.
Hate to say it, but I tend to agree with Madcat on this one. CM7 is a constantly growing project with lots of development support. Stock is... Well stock... You may never see another update for it and I don't feel it comes with anywhere near as much customization.
If you're truly happy with an "eReader" than updates are silly past Manualnooter. It's overclocked and you can read just fine. If you want a "tablet" that's why there's CM7.
That said, had I just wanted an eReader, I would have just bought a Nook or Kindle, battery life is far better for those, and you can easily read your books. Like Madcat said, it's very easy to use the Nook Color heavily (overclocked to 1.3ghz on .29 kernel/Debateable on .32 till PBD is fixed) for a whole day and charge at night. I don't think you're going to see much better even on Stock...
Bluetooth... Silly? LOL, the only thing missing from the Nook color is video out, and I would have a highly portable video game system for vacations, family get togethers, etc.. As Madcat also mentioned, bluetooth gps is pretty awesome on this screen, makes me regret recently buying a TomTom.
But you're also forgetting USB host support that will soon be baked in, allowing the nook to use external usb keybords, mouses, webcams(possibly?), video game controllers and hard drives!
Something goes wrong with CM7 you have a lot of dev support and other user support. Something breaks in Stock and you have the manual spoken to you in verbatim, with an Indian Accent and an American name.
My Nook Color journey will be complete and I'll finally be able to use this thing the way I truly want when (1) Movies play as well on my NC as they did on BN OS 1.1, and (2) the Nook App for Android opens books as quickly as the stock reader does.
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Not sure why it hasn't ended for video... Overclock it and use Moboplayer and you can easily watch videos. That or learn to encode videos with handbrake to the specs of the nook color for hardware acceleration.
As far as the Nook App goes... I don't really read books outside of pdfs, so correct me if I'm wrong... But couldn't you use other programs like Kindle? or Moon Reader or Aikido?
I'm a little confused about the Bluetooth usability comments. Has the extremely short range issue been resolved and I missed it?
Personally I did want a device that was mostly an eReader with added capability. A rooted/over-clocked Nook Color running Smart Taskbar, Button Savior and a few other goodies fits that bill. Sure the user interface is not Android but that wasn't my intent from the start.
If the Bluetooth range can be/has been resolved, that would be icing on the cake if it gets ported to the rooted NC.If Bluetooth range while using WiFi is still sub par, I wouldn't describe it as very useful even if I were running CM7.
Even though we're on XDA, not all of us are interested in constantly tinkering with our toys all the time. If that is your thing, I say more power to you but there is no call to ridicule others who are looking for something different. Hopefully we can rise above such rudeness and treat each other with common courtesy.
-Joe
PuterGeek said:
Hopefully we can rise above such rudeness and treat each other with common courtesy.
-Joe
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Who's being rude? Seems pretty civil so far.
I just nooted last night with the lastest MN and Dalingrin's 2.6.32 OC kernel and let me tell you I am as happy as I can be. I did consider CM7 or Phiremod which I think are great but then I realized I am using this baby more for ereading than anything else.
I do like the BN reader launcher and I want to enjoy it a little bit more, the OC brings new life to it (is laggy as hell out of the box). I have now installed around 50 apps including ADW EX, customized it to my taste and to be frank regarding UI I have it to the level CM7 or Phiremod is. I can't imagine it faster than it is (it actually beats my Cognition 4 Samsung Galaxy S in feel and in Quadrant 1800 vs 2300 for the nook).
So I might change later but my needs are fulfilled for now, same situation with my Galaxy S, until CM7 is stable over there I'm sticking with stable froyo Cog goodness.
Hi,
I am currently in a market for a budget tablet that can allow me to do internet browsing and also play normal Android games like Angry Birds.
My impression is that Nook is only a book reader and may not sustain the casual gaming (it's for my mum). But how would a custom ROM like CM7 improve that? Do I get a true Gingerbread experience (i.e. just like all other phones who run CM7, but without phone capability only) when I flash CM7 or it's still stuck with a book reader mode? Any overclocking kernel for Nook?
I know about those hardware differences (bluetooth, camera etc.) but that's not too big an issue for me. Like I say, browsing and gaming is what I am looking for.
The other thing I am interested with the Nook is that there are better development than the Wifi Tab 7. Has there been stable Honeycomb release?
Sorry for all these questions, probably asked a lot before, but I tried the sticky and do not get something I want, seems like my questions are too basic to be kept in the forum?
as far as i know its complete gingerbread with cm7 and i think you can only overclock to 1.3 which is still really good if your the benchmark type of person i get close to 3k with my nook..better than my evo 3d.
Yeah, a little more digging in Google tells me everything about the CM7 and overclocking. Should have done that before posting it here.
Anyway, any idea about Honeycomb development?
there are honeycomb roms but i didnt like any of them they were laggy for me so im sticking with cm7 and launcher pro overclocked to 1ghz for some battery and everything is smooth so im happy.
Thanks for the information. Is there good support for external mic and webcam? I mean a stable kernel that will still allow me overclocking to 1GHz.
I'm sure you considered this, but because you wrote that it's for your mom: if she is not comfortable with tinkering with the nook the tab might in fact be the better choice.
I understand that you would do the rooting, but if your mom is not into this stuff she might be happier with a tablet that is a stock experience.
I once rooted my dad's mobile and regreted it for a long time (now he is happy again with a plain feature phone)
One additional thing: there are way more accessories available for the tab than for the nook (at least that's the case for Europe)
I'm talking docking stations, cute covers, etc. Might be not the case for the US, though.
That's really not against the nook per se: I really love my nooks (color and touch, both rooted) and for me it's perfect. But I am also a very geeky mom who does all the rooting/voiding warranties in the family
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Podcasterin,
Thanks for your comment.
I'll root it for her because CM7 will prove to be a much better tablet experience than the stock one I believe. I am looking for an inexpensive tablet, not an ebook reader.
Accessories might not matter too much. I am able to get screen protector and pouch (Tab's though) for all my need.
What's preventing me from getting the Tab WiFi is the lack of XDA support where most development is for the original 3G brother. And it does seem like it will be stuck on FroYo forever.
I am from Malaysia, getting the Nook Color is a bit difficult and a local promotion of the WiFi Tab makes them about the same price. But with overclocking enabled for Color and the same GPU both have, it feels like the ability to run Gingerbread (and even Honeycomb) can outrun the camera, mic and bluetooth capability on Tab.
It's a definite Color if I have confirmation for a stable kernel that supports USB webcam.
Im not exactly sure if a webcam would work it would have to be micro usb and im just not sure if it would work with android?
maybe a plan mic would work.
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Podcasterin,
Thanks for your comment.
I'll root it for her because CM7 will prove to be a much better tablet experience than the stock one I believe. I am looking for an inexpensive tablet, not an ebook reader.
Accessories might not matter too much. I am able to get screen protector and pouch (Tab's though) for all my need.
What's preventing me from getting the Tab WiFi is the lack of XDA support where most development is for the original 3G brother. And it does seem like it will be stuck on FroYo forever.
I am from Malaysia, getting the Nook Color is a bit difficult and a local promotion of the WiFi Tab makes them about the same price. But with overclocking enabled for Color and the same GPU both have, it feels like the ability to run Gingerbread (and even Honeycomb) can outrun the camera, mic and bluetooth capability on Tab.
It's a definite Color if I have confirmation for a stable kernel that supports USB webcam.
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Take a look here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1105497
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Why would you bother with a NC if there are plenty of 7 galaxy tabs on ebay +- 50$ more then NC?
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Why would you bother with a NC if there are plenty of 7 galaxy tabs on ebay +- 50$ more then NC?
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It seems to me that the WiFi only Tab 7" is not well supported, either by Samsung or XDA. There is no custom ROM as far as I find out in the Tab forum.
Meanwhile, Nook Color has a stable Gingerbread CM7, and there are also developments on Honeycomb.
I meant not "Wifi Only" ones, but carrier supplied. Bought a T-Mobile one on EBay for 295$. Rooted, installed latest Overcome, that's it. Can't compare to NC...
If I were to buy an android tablet today, I would definitely go with the Acer Iconia Tab. It's only a bit more expensive, but seems a lot more future-proof. The Nook Color's advantage was all the development, but now the hardware is starting to look dated, as it will be to a much greater extent when ICS devices are available.
With that being said, there has been a lot of development for the Nook Color. Two Honeycomb Ports, a full CM7 rom, a MIUI port, Bluetooth working, Ubuntu, and USB host support. And more. The Nook Color is one of XDA's "sweetheart" devices, in that development has pushed the device way further than anyone thought it would ever go. Very few tablets and smartphones have continued development after 6 months. Thank all our amazing devs for all their work.
I hope I haven't muddled your choice. The Nook Color is an amazingly versatile device, with excellent battery life, stable software, and almost constant improvement, which will help your mum. It is a wonderful (budget) tablet, and will likely outlive all the other honeycomb tablets in software development.
Yeah there is a new Acer Iconia A100 7", but I saw that the battery is rather low capacity and so the Nook Color is probably going to run longer. (link) But that Tegra 2 in Iconia would dust the Nook Color and Android 3 is nice too.
My biggest problem with Nook Color is the OS. Which is a major issue lol. The slow unaccelerated web browser is pretty nasty and that's mainly what I use a tablet for. Opera Mobile is nice but has a ton of issues of its own. Otherwise with the Nook you also have to worry about apps breaking, such as the recent Google apps updates that are all flakey and causing people to come up with nasty hacks. And other apps breaking like N64oid which only currently works with CM7.0.3 or older for some reason.
A modded Nook is not well supported by people outside of Cyanogenmod because of its niche status. It's a fun hobbyist project though and that's what I was after.
swaaye said:
Yeah there is a new Acer Iconia A100 7", but I saw that the battery is rather low capacity and so the Nook Color is probably going to run longer. (link) But that Tegra 2 in Iconia would dust the Nook Color and Android 3 is nice too.
My biggest problem with Nook Color is the OS. Which is a major issue lol. The slow unaccelerated web browser is pretty nasty and that's mainly what I use a tablet for. Opera Mobile is nice but has a ton of issues of its own. Otherwise with the Nook you also have to worry about apps breaking, such as the recent Google apps updates that are all flakey and causing people to come up with nasty hacks. And other apps breaking like N64oid which only currently works with CM7.0.3 or older for some reason.
A modded Nook is not well supported by people outside of Cyanogenmod because of its niche status. It's a fun hobbyist project though and that's what I was after.
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The 7" acer battery life will kill that tab before it gets off the ground. As for slow browsers, what do you run? My nook runs very fast either with the stock browser or opera mobile. If you check the forums, the nook is not the only device having market trouble at this time. I currently have 79 apps on my nook and updated 13 this afternoon. Yes we had to find a workaround to get the market to behave but as I said, there are other tabs having the same issue both with google and the amazon market.
As for poor support, cyanogen, xda, android central, and androidtablets.net all have thriving forums for the nook color.
Don't get me wrong, the Galaxy tab is a good product but I'll put my nook color up against almost any 7" tab on the market and leave most of them in the dust.
Current setup: CM7.1 nightly 160
Cpu set for 300,600,1000,1100,1200 mHz on demand profile
Bluetooth logitech keyboard
USB host mode set up with powered hub, 250GB passport external drive, flash drive and card reader support, logitech usb mouse.
Current quadrant score is 2995 with 14 apps running.
Any tablet or reader you purchase should fill a specific need and there are several choices out there. I currently have 4 tablets for different uses but the one I come back to as my goto tab is the nook.
I'll get off my soapbox now
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wareagleben said:
If I were to buy an android tablet today, I would definitely go with the Acer Iconia Tab. It's only a bit more expensive, but seems a lot more future-proof. The Nook Color's advantage was all the development, but now the hardware is starting to look dated, as it will be to a much greater extent when ICS devices are available.
With that being said, there has been a lot of development for the Nook Color. Two Honeycomb Ports, a full CM7 rom, a MIUI port, Bluetooth working, Ubuntu, and USB host support. And more. The Nook Color is one of XDA's "sweetheart" devices, in that development has pushed the device way further than anyone thought it would ever go. Very few tablets and smartphones have continued development after 6 months. Thank all our amazing devs for all their work.
I hope I haven't muddled your choice. The Nook Color is an amazingly versatile device, with excellent battery life, stable software, and almost constant improvement, which will help your mum. It is a wonderful (budget) tablet, and will likely outlive all the other honeycomb tablets in software development.
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Lol I don't care how good the specs are, it has ΒΌ of the battery of the nook. Definently not worth it. The 2 things required for any good tablet is battery life and grwat screen. If you don't have that you have anything and the nook has both.
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