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Questions about DroidX development.

Alright, I currently have an Incredible. I have yet to root it, because I'm thinking about using my 30 day satisfaction guarantee to switch for the DroidX. Now, from my understanding, root is essentially inevitable on all phones. However, the Incredible has custom ROMs available already, whereas from reading a thread elsewhere, it's looking like it will be nigh impossible to get custom ROMs for the DroidX? Is this true? Does that mean the Incredible is unsigned?
I was considering switching to the DroidX because of the bigger screen, better video and sound quality, among other reasons. Should I still consider this, or am I better off sticking with my Incredible?

The Inc. bootloader apparently will work with non-signed ROMs. Motorola has started to make their bootloaders check for a valid digital signature on any ROM it starts to load. If there is not a valid digital signature on the ROM, it won't load it. Therefore you cannot load a custom ROM with that type of bootloader. It hasn't been determined if the bootloader on the X will only work with digitally signed ROMs, but that is the expectation.
Whether or not you care depends on what you expect to do with the phone. Many people don't care to load custom ROMs. If the manufacturer keeps up with development, then the need for custom ROMs drops even further. There will always be those people that want to play around and tweak ROMs, but the general poplulation won't bother with ROMs.
It just depends on what you want to do.....

This is purely a guess... but I would venture to say the X will be rooted at some point. I'm basing this off the assumption nothing new is being implemented here. I can't imagine this phone is suddenly using some new technology that cannot be cracked.
But who knows. Only time will tell.

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It just depends on what you want to do.....
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As I understand it, the Milestone is the only phone Motorola has locked down the ability to load unsigned roms. Is it also the only Android phone released by Motorola since the Droid? How can we know if this is something they simply decided to do after they released the Droid or if it was a one-off? I've read they said they will require signed roms on all future phones, but who knows. I thought the Droid was vanilla android, is the milestone not. If it runs without a manufacturer custom UI, what's the point of locking it down?
I dropped my iPhone in the lake a month ago, but was planning on replacing it in July with an Android phone anyway. I was waiting for the Evo, and now the Droid X but I don't think I can wait any longer without a phone. Reading all the reviews of the Droid X I've just ignored all critisism of the UI assuming I'd be able to throw vanilla Froyo on there within a few days when the community released something. This is really discouraging and sorry to say even with the Motorola UI I think it's still my best option. As a side rant, I know it's been said before, but I don't see how this is any different than buying a computer and not being allowed to put whatever OS I want on it as long as I can find drivers. It seems like the sort of thing the FTC would go after Dell or HP for doing, so why should smart-phones be any different, especially unsubsidized? In short, to answer your question, I'd like to not have the annoyance of feeling like MY hardware is being arbitrarily limited by the manufacturer, even if their custom android "does" everything I need it to.
What if you wanted to do development on your phone and not just virtual consoles on your computer. In a year or two is your only option going to be a designated development phone like the Nexus One? I can see why it has little effect on Motorola, people who care make up a very small percentage, but shouldn't Google care enough to step in and prevent Motorola from doing this?

Ok, I'm fairly new to all this, which leads me to my confusion on this issue. If we are worried about the bootloader, as with the milestone - no roms then what is this about?
[ROM][V0.3][28.06.2010] Senseui Mod for Milestone - xda-developers
Is he using a different version of milestone?

All im looking to do is get rid of the bloat apps that the X comes with. Even if we cant have custom roms, can this still be done? Im coming from an Omnia and i know the only way to get rid of the useless stuff was to flash. Does this work the same way with Android?
Yes Yes i have never had a Android phone before. Very excited about making the switch once the X is released

sjones765 said:
Ok, I'm fairly new to all this, which leads me to my confusion on this issue. If we are worried about the bootloader, as with the milestone - no roms then what is this about?
[ROM][V0.3][28.06.2010] Senseui Mod for Milestone - xda-developers
Is he using a different version of milestone?
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From what I understand, there's a[n experimental?] method to bypass the bootloader entirely on the milestone, and slip in a custom ROM that way. I think it's called kextern.
Mudvayne622 said:
All im looking to do is get rid of the bloat apps that the X comes with. Even if we cant have custom roms, can this still be done? Im coming from an Omnia and i know the only way to get rid of the useless stuff was to flash. Does this work the same way with Android?
Yes Yes i have never had a Android phone before. Very excited about making the switch once the X is released
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Once it's rooted, yes, you could easily do that. However if you don't like the psuedo-blur UI, there would be no way to get rid of that if the bootloader is encrypted.

Jyosua said:
However if you don't like the psuedo-blur UI, there would be no way to get rid of that if the bootloader is encrypted.
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Installing something like LauncherPro will go a long way towards removing the blur-like elements on the droidx. Getting rid of the motorola widgets and using a 3rd party launcher brings you fairly close to a stock android experience.

about DroidX development
The developer will need to CUSTOM make it for the EVO.

Is there really any need to flash a custom Rom on the One?

Firstly, please don't get me wrong here. Im not trolling in the slightest and I really appreciate all the work the devs do here.
With the HTC One having such high specs is there really any need to flash custom Roms? In my opinion all of them seem the same and don't look or feel any different to the stock rom on the One. The only benefit I can see is for Root access.
Im sure there is a lot of "under the hood" tweaks that are done but are these really noticeable or beneficial to the end user? Other peoples thoughts would be interesting.

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Firstly, please don't get me wrong here. Im not trolling in the slightest and I really appreciate all the work the devs do here.
With the HTC One having such high specs is there really any need to flash custom Roms? In my opinion all of them seem the same and don't look or feel any different to the stock rom on the One. The only benefit I can see is for Root access.
Im sure there is a lot of "under the hood" tweaks that are done but are these really noticeable or beneficial to the end user? Other peoples thoughts would be interesting.
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Actually yes, I wish to get CM working fully on HTC One.
It gives us an alternate experience than what HTC wanted us to.
Best of all, you don't have to wait so long for HTC to update their phones.
Especially when they abandon the One, we rely on CM.
But I'm really hoping for the success of the One, nobody could resist the look and feel of the One.

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Actually yes, I wish to get CM working fully on HTC One.
It gives us an alternate experience than what HTC wanted us to.
Best of all, you don't have to wait so long for HTC to update their phones.
Especially when they abandon the One, we rely on CM.
But I'm really hoping for the success of the One, nobody could resist the look and feel of the One.
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I totally agree the updates and the benefit of getting rid on Sense if you dont like it is a real benefit. But is there a need for multiple Sense custom roms?

dr9722 said:
I totally agree the updates and the benefit of getting rid on Sense if you dont like it is a real benefit. But is there a need for multiple Sense custom roms?
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That's subjective I guess. But for something like example HTC DROID DNA or Butterfly, Sense 5 gets ported before HTC did. So I guess it's also a huge benefit.

Earlier updates is the main reason why I will be rooting, these phone networks take ages to update it's unavailable!!
Also there are some very nice skinned roms out there

I won't be unlocking my bootloader for a while. Not until I am at least sure that my device is working 100% and that will take a couple of weeks. I was eager to root it etc but I was reading about HTC's warranty and it seems as though it is a very long winded process. Maybe you wish to do the same?

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I won't be unlocking my bootloader for a while. Not until I am at least sure that my device is working 100% and that will take a couple of weeks. I was eager to root it etc but I was reading about HTC's warranty and it seems as though it is a very long winded process. Maybe you wish to do the same?
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yep ill be in no hurry either.
when i finally get a device im happy with yea i will root and flash custom rom, but not CM - Sense 5 is great and IMO is much better than stock JB - there are a few minor things I would like added, but I have no doubt they will be added to custom sense 5 roms in due course.

to me, there is no point in being a flashaholic. flash the latest stable base, and then keep up with custom kernels for battery.
thats me, idk bout u guys

Personally something that will push me over the unlock bootloader line is when either when A) IF the HTC logo can become mapped as a button, or B) A full relock becomes available lol

For me, absolutely. I consider some features (such as long press vol key to skip tracks) essential. There are also always some visual things I like to change no matter how well it is made

I just need root to enable volume key wake, and ill want to remap the keys. Everything else looks flawless
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do you need root etc. to install flash on ONE ?

ChazyChaz said:
do you need root etc. to install flash on ONE ?
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No. To my knowledge, the built in browser has flash support.

What about Wi-Fi hotspot support?
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While there's obviously no NEED, a lot of people will prefer to flash ROMs for a variety of different reasons.
I'd say the main reasons are;
*The ability to have a pure AOSP look which is preferred by a lot of people (especially those who come from a Nexus device). Also, a lot of people don't like the look/feel of Sense and will therefore want to change the UI to something which is more preferable to them.
I, for example, have never tried Sense before and could quite possibly hate it once I finally test it. On the flip side of that, I may love it but at least custom ROMs will give me the ability to completely change the UI whilst giving me a ton more customizations and optimizations than a custom launcher would do.
*As mentioned at the end of the first reason, customization is a huge part of what a lot of people do with their devices. For example, when I had my SGS2 I used to love the ability to flash a simple ROM and have a ton of customization at my fingertips, so I could edit the look of my phone to my hearts content.
*Some people are simply flashaholics and have ORD (Obsessive ROM-flashing/updating Disorder). I'll normally flash every ROM in sight if the device is new and there aren't many ROMs available yet. This way it gives me a good early decision as to what type of ROM I'd prefer on said device. However, once the device starts getting more development and more ROMs start appearing in quick succession, I'll then make my mind up about which ROM to choose and generally won't change ROM for the vast majority of the devices lifetime.
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I unlocked, rooted and flashed now because in a few months time the phone will be setup perfectly; all the right apps, all the right data, all in the right place (and HTC might of discovered a way to do a Sensation on us (S-Off))
With the phone rooted I can be relatively confident of getting it back to my currently backed up state after any major updates (and, when I finally install some games, get their progress restored as well)
Sent from my Tricked out HTC One via xda-developers application

Sense means HTC. I don't see any reason to buy HTC if I'm not gonna use sense.

Because HTC makes great hardware. I buy HTC exclusively, but I rip sense off it ASAP and put AOKP or CM or something without sense. Nexus devices are generally not top of the line hardware, they're supposed to be a benchmark for development (i.e. midrange). That said, N4 has more impressive specs than usual, but I can't imagine buying an LG phone. I have never realized LG even made smartphones, only flip phones until the N4 was released.
Still, HTC makes best hardware, I just generally don't like sense. That said, sense 5 does look interesting.
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Having options is nice!
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Sense means HTC. I don't see any reason to buy HTC if I'm not gonna use sense.
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To a certain extent, yes, I agree with you on that statement. However, sometimes you just need a change and it is nice to have the option of running AOSP roms as well. I would much rather go back and forth between Sense/AOSP than TouchWiz/AOSP after having my GS3.

No. Roms are for old devices. Lol
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rooting the ONE is it worth it...or should i

any one regret rooting the one ? i had a htc sensation rooted but alll the roms seem to have some thing that did not work...the one seems to be fine the way it is so before i root it i wanted some option ..... do the the htc one also have roms with broken parts of it ?
should i just wait on the updates ?

Really depends on how you use your device and how you feel about the stock setup. I didn't like having all the bloatware that AT&T packed on and really wanted to play around more under the hood, but obviously that is not for everyone and comes with all of the standard risks.
I'm running the latest ViperOne ROM and really love the options that can be set and tweaked. So many ROM options available for the device the choices are almost endless.

You haven't tried Trickdroid 9.0. Amazing rom that's not missing anything! insane battery life also

does the update also add alot of features ?

I've rooted every android phone I've had and flashed numerous roms on each one but this is the first device that I've left completely stock. I don't even have an unlocked bootloader. The phone is just fine the way it is, I will not be rooting or unlocking the bootloader on this phone anytime soon. Myself and many other users used to root our phones and flash custom roms because android phones used to be incredibly laggy and we always wanted better performance. Overclocking our processors was the norm but now android has matured so much and devices are ridiculously powerful now there is just no need to change them. Even if we were to still overclock our devices you wouldn't see a change in performance.
It's completely up to you though.

Personally, I think rooting is worth it just for the ad blocking it allows; i.e. editing the hosts file. Running a custom rom, being able to backup with titanium and nandroids, and changing radios is just gravy. And if you've ever had a device go south without a custom recovery already on it it's incredibly difficult to fix.
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lampel said:
Personally, I think rooting is worth it just for the ad blocking it allows; i.e. editing the hosts file. Running a custom rom, being able to backup with titanium and nandroids, and changing radios is just gravy. And if you've ever had a device go south without a custom recovery already on it it's incredibly difficult to fix.
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Devices don't tend to break on stock, that is a case for warranty

Matt said:
Devices don't tend to break on stock, that is a case for warranty
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The wife bought a refurb Acer tablet - no warranty (I think it was thirty days.) Was ridiculous to restore. I learned my lesson, well! And I'd rather be able to fix it myself than be without while I wait for someone else to. To each their own...
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yeah if this was a slow phone or laggy maybe i would,but a have read a few tread with custom roms and some are having trouble with them,think i'll wait on update....although the 4.2.2 update seems to not be coming to t-mobile,all i got so far was a small update.

I have only had the One for a few weeks, but I rooted it and flashed CM10.1 before I even put my SIM in it. Definitely worth it. No reason to deal with carrier restrictions.

t mobile told me there is no 4.2.2 update for the htc one......HTC said the same thing,so now im wondering how come people are saying there receiving this update..
who's lying

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t mobile told me there is no 4.2.2 update for the htc one......HTC said the same thing,so now im wondering how come people are saying there receiving this update..
who's lying
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There will be no 4.2.2 update from tmobile, my guess is they are gonna skip that and go straight to 4.3 plus they said it on the internet on the news that htc said it themselves and that there would be no customer benefit for an update like 4.2.2 so they said they were gonna skip it and bring up 4.3.
The update started along the lines of outside international countries that aren't big market carriers and then it rolled on slowly...so no one's lying you just have to do some research on the internet but that 4.2.2 update never got to the US thats why it was never rolled out to large carriers to their customers..
Hopefully this gave you some insight on things that are currently happening.
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There will be no 4.2.2 update from tmobile, my guess is they are gonna skip that and go straight to 4.3 plus they said it on the internet on the news that htc said it themselves and that there would be no customer benefit for an update like 4.2.2 so they said they were gonna skip it and bring up 4.3.
The update started along the lines of outside international countries that aren't big market carriers and then it rolled on slowly...so no one's lying you just have to do some research on the internet but that 4.2.2 update never got to the US thats why it was never rolled out to large carriers to their customers..
Hopefully this gave you some insight on things that are currently happening.
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there was alot of people saying they received the 4.2.2 update to there htc one

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there was alot of people saying they received the 4.2.2 update to there htc one
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It had to have been those in the UK or in some parts of the world because it started from one small part of the world, I mean those that are not on carriers, and it did end up in parts of the UK but it never got to the US and if people who are in the US saying they got the update they changed their CID to a region that had the update rolling out so really no one on this side of the US has that software except verizon because they shipped those one models with the current software, and the GPE ones got an update first because well those aren't sold by carrier they are sold by htc themselves on their website. So yes people have said that they receive it but unless there is proof I wouldn't go off of their word, they more than likely did something to their phone to get that software, they might have a custom rom on their phone or done something to get it officially but here in the us there is no word of 4.2.2 ever coming to their customers....of course except verizon....
Well hopefully this helps...if you have any other questions or concerns please do let us know as we want to help you out
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guess i may have to root it to get the extra features,just hate all the other problems that comes with custom roms,there always updating to fix this or that.

bucknaked said:
guess i may have to root it to get the extra features,just hate all the other problems that comes with custom roms,there always updating to fix this or that.
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Not always. Running a stock 4.2.2 Rom or something without major modifications will be smooth for a long time. I ran Mike's stock build rooted for almost a month with no issues at all.
It all depends on what you want from it. If you want all the themes and icon changes and modify this and that, you will have issues. But if you JUST want the newest version out there then I would say go ahead and run a stock build, get it odexed (not deodexed) and you will have buttery smoothness
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is revone still not working for updated htc ones ?
or have they got that fixed ?

zammboss said:
You haven't tried Trickdroid 9.0. Amazing rom that's not missing anything! insane battery life also
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Hi, I am looking for ROM with better battery life than Stock.
My average battery drain about 1% for about 4-5 minutes while using Internet via WIFI for browsing using JB's 4.2.2 default browser, chatting via WhatsApp, reading emails and using Blink Feed.
How about using this ROM?
Thanks.

My main reason FOR rooting, was to theme the phone red. I have the HTC one Red edition. And just love red. I also hate blink feed. Ive flashed Venom rom, and desensed it. Battery life is amazing, I cant find anything that don't work, well nothing I need to use anyway. Plus they have there own red theme, and with the help of a few icon designes from Seriously Crazy. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2091654 This is what ive come up with.
So worth rotting for me, if only for the theming, and gtting rid of blink feed.
Steve

[Q] Noob question: What are some benefits of using a custom rom instead of a stock?

I recently rooted and I'm still using the stock rom since I bought my phone in the last week, so I'd like some opinions on why should/shouldn't I move to a custom rom like InsertCoin or Viper.
Thanks!

lovecrush said:
I recently rooted and I'm still using the stock rom since I bought my phone in the last week, so I'd like some opinions on why should/shouldn't I move to a custom rom like InsertCoin or Viper.
Thanks!
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Cons
No more warranty
No more support from carrier/HTC
Non-final software can be buggy
Pros
Support from online communites (aka XDA)
Access to updates way quicker
Features are added
Complete customization
That little feeling of ****ing around for 12 hours because you want everything to be perfect
There are different kinds of ROM as well, some are based on the pure Google Experience, others improve the HTC-made Sense. Personally I like the look of Sense and wanted my phone to pretty much stay the same, so I went with Android Revolution. Another popular project is ViperROM but I am not familiar with that one.

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No more warranty
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Rooting doesn't void your warranty unless the manufacturer can prove that whatever problems you have were caused as a direct result of you rooting. I.e if you have a defective camera from the beginning and root your phone, the manufacturer is still obliged to recognize your warranty because the problem was nothing to do with you rooting. Similarly, if you flash a volume booster and blow your speaks out, your warranty will be void because you caused the problem.

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Rooting doesn't void your warranty unless the manufacturer can prove that whatever problems you have were caused as a direct result of you rooting. I.e if you have a defective camera from the beginning and root your phone, the manufacturer is still obliged to recognize your warranty because the problem was nothing to do with you rooting. Similarly, if you flash a volume booster and blow your speaks out, your warranty will be void because you caused the problem.
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I've been working for a North American carrier for three years and although what you say is true, I've seen a couple of OEMs (athough it's never happened with HTC) refuse repairs because of "Customer modifications altering the use of the product" or some **** like that

Best bit for me..
- No Bloatware
- Better Battery

attanasi0 said:
Cons
No more warranty
No more support from carrier/HTC
Non-final software can be buggy
Pros
Support from online communites (aka XDA)
Access to updates way quicker
Features are added
Complete customization
That little feeling of ****ing around for 12 hours because you want everything to be perfect
There are different kinds of ROM as well, some are based on the pure Google Experience, others improve the HTC-made Sense. Personally I like the look of Sense and wanted my phone to pretty much stay the same, so I went with Android Revolution. Another popular project is ViperROM but I am not familiar with that one.
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Nice! That was pretty much what I was looking for. Many thanks.
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Wanting to root, but don't want history to repeat.

Long time Android user here. I'm debating on whether or not I'd like to pull the trigger and root/flash a custom ROM to my brand new Nexus 6 (seriously, still has that new-phone smell). My girlfriend and I both got these beauties the same day and love them to pieces.
However...
Coming from a rooted/customized S3 and M7 I'm already missing the customization features that rooting devices allowed. Although I wouldn't have any issues doing so, I'm a bit concerned with potential bugs that could occur while using custom ROMs.
For instance, when I bought my M7, before I rooted it, the call quality was phenomenal. Then after rooting/flashing a custom OS, the quality seemed to drop substantially. No matter which ROM/kernel sets I used, there were always data and/or performance issues including, but not limited to, Pandora app skipping even when data (LTE) was at max reception.
I'm not asking which custom ROM is better as that would be a "to each their own" situation. I've, personally, been a fan of Liquid Smooth and ran it as a daily driver for my S3 (and ViperOne for my M7), but from what I've seen in the development pages there are quite a few ROMs I'd like to try out.
I wanted to see what people who've already rooted and flashed custom ROMs thought of their Nexus 6 post-awesomizing. Did the call quality change? Other than listed ROM bugs, were there any frequent issues that continued through various ROMs and kernel combinations?
Thanks, in advance, to anyone and everyone who replies!
Cheers,
Blue

bb2si said:
Long time Android user here. I'm debating on whether or not I'd like to pull the trigger and root/flash a custom ROM to my brand new Nexus 6 (seriously, still has that new-phone smell). My girlfriend and I both got these beauties the same day and love them to pieces.
However...
Coming from a rooted/customized S3 and M7 I'm already missing the customization features that rooting devices allowed. Although I wouldn't have any issues doing so, I'm a bit concerned with potential bugs that could occur while using custom ROMs.
For instance, when I bought my M7, before I rooted it, the call quality was phenomenal. Then after rooting/flashing a custom OS, the quality seemed to drop substantially. No matter which ROM/kernel sets I used, there were always data and/or performance issues including, but not limited to, Pandora app skipping even when data (LTE) was at max reception.
I'm not asking which custom ROM is better as that would be a "to each their own" situation. I've, personally, been a fan of Liquid Smooth and ran it as a daily driver for my S3 (and ViperOne for my M7), but from what I've seen in the development pages there are quite a few ROMs I'd like to try out.
I wanted to see what people who've already rooted and flashed custom ROMs thought of their Nexus 6 post-awesomizing. Did the call quality change? Other than listed ROM bugs, were there any frequent issues that continued through various ROMs and kernel combinations?
Thanks, in advance, to anyone and everyone who replies!
Cheers,
Blue
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The problem with HTC and Samsung devices, is that they are not truly open source. For a "dev" to get an AOSP ROM built for those devices can be quite an ordeal and can require many hacks to be made and many bugs will be found trying to get the AOSP source code to fit that device... The Nexus does not have this problem as AOSP is designed for it. Even a monkey could compile a bug free AOSP rom for the nexus, so don't worry about that sort of thing.

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The problem with HTC and Samsung devices, is that they are not truly open source. For a "dev" to get an AOSP ROM built for those devices can be quite an ordeal and can require many hacks to be made and many bugs will be found trying to get the AOSP source code to fit that device... The Nexus does not have this problem as AOSP is designed for it. Even a monkey could compile a bug free AOSP rom for the nexus, so don't worry about that sort of thing.
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That's quite a relief to read. So there hasn't been any known issues with the call quality suffering? That is my biggest concern as with my HTC (post root/flash) the call quality was horrendous! It sounded like the person on the other line was constantly mumbling. The quality on the Nexus 6, as of now, is so crisp and clear it sounds as if they're sitting right next to me.
I'll definitely be looking forward to trying out the various ROMs available.

bb2si said:
That's quite a relief to read. So there hasn't been any known issues with the call quality suffering? That is my biggest concern as with my HTC (post root/flash) the call quality was horrendous! It sounded like the person on the other line was constantly mumbling. The quality on the Nexus 6, as of now, is so crisp and clear it sounds as if they're sitting right next to me.
I'll definitely be looking forward to trying out the various ROMs available.
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Yep, with a nexus those sort of issues should be a thing of the past. HTC are particularly bad as on teh M7, they themselves couldn't even get GPE to run properly (Speaker quality took a tumble).
Also, you may not know but Xposed framework just came out with an Alpha. In a short while, it wil get more stable and modules will get updated for Lollipop, meaning you will probably be able to add much of that customisation without changing from the stock rom.

rootSU said:
Yep, with a nexus those sort of issues should be a thing of the past. HTC are particularly bad as on teh M7, they themselves couldn't even get GPE to run properly (Speaker quality took a tumble).
Also, you may not know but Xposed framework just came out with an Alpha. In a short while, it wil get more stable and modules will get updated for Lollipop, meaning you will probably be able to add much of that customisation without changing from the stock rom.
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I've heard of the manufacturer UI's getting in the way of performance with devices. I'm glad I went with the pure Google goodness this time! I'll keep an eye on Xposed, but I think you've helped my decision in rooting today.
Now to impatiently wait for work to be over and rush home to my laptop!

bb2si said:
I've heard of the manufacturer UI's getting in the way of performance with devices. I'm glad I went with the pure Google goodness this time! I'll keep an eye on Xposed, but I think you've helped my decision in rooting today.
Now to impatiently wait for work to be over and rush home to my laptop!
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Good luck.
It is also my personal recommendation that you don't use a toolkit and you use fastboot natively..

rootSU said:
Good luck.
It is also my personal recommendation that you don't use a toolkit and you use fastboot natively..
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Always do! Already have links saved to my email for how-to's and how-not to's.
Thanks for your input!

bb2si said:
Long time Android user here. I'm debating on whether or not I'd like to pull the trigger and root/flash a custom ROM to my brand new Nexus 6 (seriously, still has that new-phone smell). My girlfriend and I both got these beauties the same day and love them to pieces.
However...
Coming from a rooted/customized S3 and M7 I'm already missing the customization features that rooting devices allowed. Although I wouldn't have any issues doing so, I'm a bit concerned with potential bugs that could occur while using custom ROMs.
For instance, when I bought my M7, before I rooted it, the call quality was phenomenal. Then after rooting/flashing a custom OS, the quality seemed to drop substantially. No matter which ROM/kernel sets I used, there were always data and/or performance issues including, but not limited to, Pandora app skipping even when data (LTE) was at max reception.
I'm not asking which custom ROM is better as that would be a "to each their own" situation. I've, personally, been a fan of Liquid Smooth and ran it as a daily driver for my S3 (and ViperOne for my M7), but from what I've seen in the development pages there are quite a few ROMs I'd like to try out.
I wanted to see what people who've already rooted and flashed custom ROMs thought of their Nexus 6 post-awesomizing. Did the call quality change? Other than listed ROM bugs, were there any frequent issues that continued through various ROMs and kernel combinations?
Thanks, in advance, to anyone and everyone who replies!
Cheers,
Blue
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It's Nexus man The best dev support is available for Nexus devices All ROMs has bugs and you'll have to bear with it. But the ROMs for Nexus devices meet stable version sooner than others. Taking Parandroid Android as an example. Visit their website and you'll be able to find that the main team focus on the Nexus line and they've legacy team to support other devices. I was also an user of S3 (Exynos variant) and PA used to be a great custom ROM for me

SAW_JOK3R said:
It's Nexus man The best dev support is available for Nexus devices All ROMs has bugs and you'll have to bear with it. But the ROMs for Nexus devices meet stable version sooner than others. Taking Parandroid Android as an example. Visit their website and you'll be able to find that the main team focus on the Nexus line and they've legacy team to support other devices. I was also an user of S3 (Exynos variant) and PA used to be a great custom ROM for me
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Yes I suppose a caveat to what I have already said, there will still be bugs on roms due to devs making customisations and you will see their bugs potentially. When I say bug free, I'm just talking about a clean AOSP rom affecting the fundamentals of the device.

rootSU said:
Yes I suppose a caveat to what I have already said, there will still be bugs on roms due to devs making customisations and you will see their bugs potentially. When I say bug free, I'm just talking about a clean AOSP rom affecting the fundamentals of the device.
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Yeah. The awesome dev support is the only thing which made me to ditch Note 4 And I'm evidencing that custom ROMs has less Major bugs than stock ROM LOL :silly:

bb2si said:
That's quite a relief to read. So there hasn't been any known issues with the call quality suffering? That is my biggest concern as with my HTC (post root/flash) the call quality was horrendous! It sounded like the person on the other line was constantly mumbling. The quality on the Nexus 6, as of now, is so crisp and clear it sounds as if they're sitting right next to me.
I'll definitely be looking forward to trying out the various ROMs available.
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I'm currently running Euphoria OS on my N6. It is based on CM12, and offers a lot of customization options without actually having to enable root. I've been running it for almost a month now, and I have yet to feel a need to go into Developer Options and flip the switch for root access.
From a call quality standpoint, we are all running the same radio versions, so it will come down to your area. I work in an area where T-Mobile is spotty (my building specifically, LTE is stupid fast outside of it) and so I'm eagerly awaiting the update which adds WiFi Calling to AOSP. As it stands now, my phone does activate HD Voice and show an indicator icon in the dialer when I'm on with another T-Mobile user.

Maybe I can use this to convince my girlfriend to let me root hers, as well. She's never had an unlocked device before and she's very cautious about it, but I'm sure I could convince her.
Thanks again, all!

Quick question, does any one have a good recommendation on a guide to root my n6 I don't want to use a tool kit because I'm hearing its better to do root through fastboot if that's correct. I've been rooting phone for some time now but I've only dealt with fastboot once before with an HTC device. All my other devices where s2 to s5. And I usually used chainfires tool kits. So could someone please set me in right direction as far as guides go? Thanks

beachbum40 said:
Quick question, does any one have a good recommendation on a guide to root my n6 I don't want to use a tool kit because I'm hearing its better to do root through fastboot if that's correct. I've been rooting phone for some time now but I've only dealt with fastboot once before with an HTC device. All my other devices where s2 to s5. And I usually used chainfires tool kits. So could someone please set me in right direction as far as guides go? Thanks
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If you already have TWRP installed, just flash SuperSU. It used to require an insecure boot image due to Lollipop's security features removing root on each boot, but now the new SuperSU injects root each time.

beachbum40 said:
Quick question, does any one have a good recommendation on a guide to root my n6 I don't want to use a tool kit because I'm hearing its better to do root through fastboot if that's correct. I've been rooting phone for some time now but I've only dealt with fastboot once before with an HTC device. All my other devices where s2 to s5. And I usually used chainfires tool kits. So could someone please set me in right direction as far as guides go? Thanks
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Its pretty simple.
Use fastboot to unlock bootloader (wipes device]
use fastboot to flash TWRP recovery
Put SuperSU zip on sdcard and flash that via TWRP recovery.
There are guides in general. The main thing is understanding using fastboot. I have a thread on that.
Go to general > all in one thread > question 28

Thank you for quick response guys? Rooting today can't take it anymore.

NotATreoFan said:
I'm currently running Euphoria OS on my N6. It is based on CM12, and offers a lot of customization options without actually having to enable root. I've been running it for almost a month now, and I have yet to feel a need to go into Developer Options and flip the switch for root access.
From a call quality standpoint, we are all running the same radio versions, so it will come down to your area. I work in an area where T-Mobile is spotty (my building specifically, LTE is stupid fast outside of it) and so I'm eagerly awaiting the update which adds WiFi Calling to AOSP. As it stands now, my phone does activate HD Voice and show an indicator icon in the dialer when I'm on with another T-Mobile user.
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Why do you need a specific custom ROM for many customization when there is Xposed available now?
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beachbum40 said:
Quick question, does any one have a good recommendation on a guide to root my n6 I don't want to use a tool kit because I'm hearing its better to do root through fastboot if that's correct. I've been rooting phone for some time now but I've only dealt with fastboot once before with an HTC device. All my other devices where s2 to s5. And I usually used chainfires tool kits. So could someone please set me in right direction as far as guides go? Thanks
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This thread can help you further

bb2si said:
Maybe I can use this to convince my girlfriend to let me root hers, as well. She's never had an unlocked device before and she's very cautious about it, but I'm sure I could convince her.
Thanks again, all!
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Tell her no sex if you can't root her phone!

SAW_JOK3R said:
Why do you need a specific custom ROM for many customization when there is Xposed available now?
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Well xposed is Alpha - not ready for public consumption.
Also, xposed module features are never as good as ones compiled directly into the ROMs. They're just not as efficient. Xposed doesn't replace the need for custom ROMs.

rootSU said:
Well xposed is Alpha - not ready for public consumption.
Also, xposed module features are never as good as ones compiled directly into the ROMs. They're just not as efficient. Xposed doesn't replace the need for custom ROMs.
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Well, Xposed is working flawlessly on nexus 5 and 6 without causing any issue That's why suggested Yeah, that doesn't replace the need of custom ROM but that actually add more feature of user's choice