Alright, I currently have an Incredible. I have yet to root it, because I'm thinking about using my 30 day satisfaction guarantee to switch for the DroidX. Now, from my understanding, root is essentially inevitable on all phones. However, the Incredible has custom ROMs available already, whereas from reading a thread elsewhere, it's looking like it will be nigh impossible to get custom ROMs for the DroidX? Is this true? Does that mean the Incredible is unsigned?
I was considering switching to the DroidX because of the bigger screen, better video and sound quality, among other reasons. Should I still consider this, or am I better off sticking with my Incredible?
The Inc. bootloader apparently will work with non-signed ROMs. Motorola has started to make their bootloaders check for a valid digital signature on any ROM it starts to load. If there is not a valid digital signature on the ROM, it won't load it. Therefore you cannot load a custom ROM with that type of bootloader. It hasn't been determined if the bootloader on the X will only work with digitally signed ROMs, but that is the expectation.
Whether or not you care depends on what you expect to do with the phone. Many people don't care to load custom ROMs. If the manufacturer keeps up with development, then the need for custom ROMs drops even further. There will always be those people that want to play around and tweak ROMs, but the general poplulation won't bother with ROMs.
It just depends on what you want to do.....
This is purely a guess... but I would venture to say the X will be rooted at some point. I'm basing this off the assumption nothing new is being implemented here. I can't imagine this phone is suddenly using some new technology that cannot be cracked.
But who knows. Only time will tell.
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It just depends on what you want to do.....
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As I understand it, the Milestone is the only phone Motorola has locked down the ability to load unsigned roms. Is it also the only Android phone released by Motorola since the Droid? How can we know if this is something they simply decided to do after they released the Droid or if it was a one-off? I've read they said they will require signed roms on all future phones, but who knows. I thought the Droid was vanilla android, is the milestone not. If it runs without a manufacturer custom UI, what's the point of locking it down?
I dropped my iPhone in the lake a month ago, but was planning on replacing it in July with an Android phone anyway. I was waiting for the Evo, and now the Droid X but I don't think I can wait any longer without a phone. Reading all the reviews of the Droid X I've just ignored all critisism of the UI assuming I'd be able to throw vanilla Froyo on there within a few days when the community released something. This is really discouraging and sorry to say even with the Motorola UI I think it's still my best option. As a side rant, I know it's been said before, but I don't see how this is any different than buying a computer and not being allowed to put whatever OS I want on it as long as I can find drivers. It seems like the sort of thing the FTC would go after Dell or HP for doing, so why should smart-phones be any different, especially unsubsidized? In short, to answer your question, I'd like to not have the annoyance of feeling like MY hardware is being arbitrarily limited by the manufacturer, even if their custom android "does" everything I need it to.
What if you wanted to do development on your phone and not just virtual consoles on your computer. In a year or two is your only option going to be a designated development phone like the Nexus One? I can see why it has little effect on Motorola, people who care make up a very small percentage, but shouldn't Google care enough to step in and prevent Motorola from doing this?
Ok, I'm fairly new to all this, which leads me to my confusion on this issue. If we are worried about the bootloader, as with the milestone - no roms then what is this about?
[ROM][V0.3][28.06.2010] Senseui Mod for Milestone - xda-developers
Is he using a different version of milestone?
All im looking to do is get rid of the bloat apps that the X comes with. Even if we cant have custom roms, can this still be done? Im coming from an Omnia and i know the only way to get rid of the useless stuff was to flash. Does this work the same way with Android?
Yes Yes i have never had a Android phone before. Very excited about making the switch once the X is released
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Ok, I'm fairly new to all this, which leads me to my confusion on this issue. If we are worried about the bootloader, as with the milestone - no roms then what is this about?
[ROM][V0.3][28.06.2010] Senseui Mod for Milestone - xda-developers
Is he using a different version of milestone?
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From what I understand, there's a[n experimental?] method to bypass the bootloader entirely on the milestone, and slip in a custom ROM that way. I think it's called kextern.
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All im looking to do is get rid of the bloat apps that the X comes with. Even if we cant have custom roms, can this still be done? Im coming from an Omnia and i know the only way to get rid of the useless stuff was to flash. Does this work the same way with Android?
Yes Yes i have never had a Android phone before. Very excited about making the switch once the X is released
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Once it's rooted, yes, you could easily do that. However if you don't like the psuedo-blur UI, there would be no way to get rid of that if the bootloader is encrypted.
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However if you don't like the psuedo-blur UI, there would be no way to get rid of that if the bootloader is encrypted.
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Installing something like LauncherPro will go a long way towards removing the blur-like elements on the droidx. Getting rid of the motorola widgets and using a 3rd party launcher brings you fairly close to a stock android experience.
about DroidX development
The developer will need to CUSTOM make it for the EVO.
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Motorola got it so right with the Droid and then royally screwed it up with the Milestone by locking down it's bootloader, what are the odds with the new Droid X?
On a slight off topic speculation, same question for the Droid 2?
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Motorola got it so right with the Droid and then royally screwed it up with the Milestone by locking down it's bootloader, what are the odds with the new Droid X?
On a slight off topic speculation, same question for the Droid 2?
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Taking into account the number of previous models listed above, I'd say it's a 50/50 shot
cross my fingers, hope to die, stick a needle in my eye... lol
i can almost bet that the bootloader is locked. motorola said a few months back all their future phones will have locked bootloaders. just hope it can be hacked like the milestone, but desnt take as long.
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i can almost bet that the bootloader is locked. motorola said a few months back all their future phones will have locked bootloaders. just hope it can be hacked like the milestone, but desnt take as long.
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This is the only thing that would make me return the Droid X. As far as I know, the Milestone bootloader still hasn't been cracked, and months on from its release, it's not looking that likely. I'm using the first 30 days to see if I can put custom roms on there or not -- if I can't, I'll go return it and wait for a better phone.
just read and no the milestone bootloader hasnt been unlocked. just hope they dont lock down this bootloader if they do i will keep my droid around for hacking perposes
If I cant put custom roms on this phone, I will not be getting it.
we may have to wait and see if their going to lock it down. i pray not, i want to keep custom roms but would rather overclock and keep the stock usablility or just theme my phone
From what I've heard, the bootloader is signed. Does anybody know if there's been any progress on the Milestone with the kexec method?
Are retail devices have Locked BootLoaders.
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Are retail devices have Locked BootLoaders.
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That's a bit of a bummer, but I mean the phone is just plainly better than an Evo. Even if it can't flash roms, having root inside the OS is still ok. I mean that way we can do wifi tethering and stuff like that.
What really impresses me from this phone is the GPU. The Evo's sucks.
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That's a bit of a bummer, but I mean the phone is just plainly better than an Evo. Even if it can't flash roms, having root inside the OS is still ok. I mean that way we can do wifi tethering and stuff like that.
What really impresses me from this phone is the GPU. The Evo's sucks.
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Yeah, the GPU in this is really helping to sell me on it. TBH I don't mind not having custom ROMs (Android custom ROM's aren't nearly as necessary as WinMo custom ROMs IMO), but I really want to be able to overclock, since hopefully this will be able to get up to 1.2-1.3GHz, at least.
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Yeah, the GPU in this is really helping to sell me on it. TBH I don't mind not having custom ROMs (Android custom ROM's aren't nearly as necessary as WinMo custom ROMs IMO), but I really want to be able to overclock, since hopefully this will be able to get up to 1.2-1.3GHz, at least.
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I am sure it can do those frequencies provided someone hacks the bootloader. But I have a feeling even if the snapdragon is at 1.2ghz it probably is equal to the Droid x's 1ghz OMAP proc.
It's just a better phone, it just has a bit odd stylistically, thank goodness the front looks smexy.
I wish Froyo would come out to it earlier, but it's not a must. (I want Flash )
With all the competition I can't see myself picking this up with a locked boot loader. Development efforts will seriously be non existent. Foolish on motorola's part. They gain nothing by locking it and ultimately lose sales.
Can someone clarify: an earlier poster said that the bootloader had been accessed, but the rest of the posts are going along the lines that the bootloader is NOT unlocked...
does anyone have any clarity for this one
timing?
Using the Droid as an example anyone remember how long it took "them" to figure out whether the bootloader was locked? Trying to figure out if this will be determined before I trying to pick one up on the 15th.
Wow this has been eye opening. I have been a long time winmo user and love flashing ROM's. I'm about to switch to verizon and was already sold on the X but after reading about the locked boot loader I think I'll stick with HTC devices, or at least the original moto droid. This will be a deal breaker sorry moto
There is a person at androidforums who has a Droid X. He is doing a Q&A right now. He has been asked twice (once by me) if the bootloader is locked or not. He is unsure how to check this (as am I). Figured someone here may be able to help him out. Since I cannot post links the thread is "Droid X in my hands on monday". Hopefully something good will come out of this.
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Wow this has been eye opening. I have been a long time winmo user and love flashing ROM's. I'm about to switch to verizon and was already sold on the X but after reading about the locked boot loader I think I'll stick with HTC devices, or at least the original moto droid. This will be a deal breaker sorry moto
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All Winmo / HTC phones are locked at the beginning and you get a great unlocker usually from Olipro. It usually takes a month or so for this to happen. Not sure why you would think an Android device would be different or why this would be a deal breaker for you. I am sure there will be someone who knows enough about the bootloader who will figure out how to unlock it.
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All Winmo / HTC phones are locked at the beginning and you get a great unlocker usually from Olipro. It usually takes a month or so for this to happen. Not sure why you would think an Android device would be different or why this would be a deal breaker for you. I am sure there will be someone who knows enough about the bootloader who will figure out how to unlock it.
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I would feel more at ease if the precedence set by the milestone didn't exist...
If I understand correctly every phone can be rooted (eventually) and only have the bootloader unlocked if it is not signed (there may be a work around, but not yet done/discovered).
So If the DX is signed and is rooted, what can't we do that having the bootloader unlocked would let us? I know loading an entire custom rom is one example. I am trying to see what the handicap "really" means to us in terms of what we can/can't change.
Personally if it will be rooted and that allows side-loading, custom themes, etc and loading a clean rom is the only thing we have to live without then that is something I can probably deal with and get the phone.
Any help explaining the distinction specifically would be great.
I posted this in another forum. I though it might help explain things.
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Let me try to make some basic comparisons using Windows OS as an example....
Rooting is simply getting access to the device's system as a "Super User" or SU. Think of it like an Administrator vs regular user on Windows. There are a lot of rudimentary things in Windows that you can only do as an Admin. Getting root access on a phone does allow you to add, modify, and delete things that a regular user cannot do. This will probably allow you to modify the theme to some extent, over clock the processor, add "unauthorized" programs, etc, etc, etc.
Having unrestricted access to the bootloader allows a user to load completely new ROMs. It would be like a Windows XP user installing a new OS like a super customized verson of XP, or upgrading to Windows7, or moving to Linux, or any other OS, etc, etc, etc.
The (suspected) problem with the Droid X bootloader is that it will only accept digitally signed ROMs from Motorola. So if Moto releases Froyo (which they have already annouced), then you can upgrade to that without problems (like going from XP to Windows7). What you cannot do is use the bootloader to install any other ROM that hasn't been officially released from Moto for the Droid X.
Is it something to worry about? I guess that depends on what you planned to do with your phone. If you are a "stock" phone kind of person, then you have nothing to worry about. Even if you wanted the ability to root and play around with some changes, you probably have nothing to worry about. But if you are a hard core "tweaker" that loves to push the envelop, or if you are worried about Moto dropping support for the Droid X (it will happen one day) and you want the ability to use customized ROMs, then this probably isn't the phone for you.
Hopefully this helps explain a little better the situation we face with the Droid X (at least as we know it today).
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The other thing is that I wanted to clarify what the "digitally signed" bootloader means. Sometimes I've said things that are not really that clear....
A bootloader can be designed so that it checks and only allow properly digitally signed ROMs from being loaded. Some bootloaders do not have this "digitally signed" requirement and will load up any ROM. It is expected that the bootloader on the Droid X is one that will only work with digitally signed ROMs with Motorola's digital signature on them.
This means that only official Droid X ROMs released by Motorola itself will work on the device.
I hope that helps.
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I posted this in another forum. I though it might help explain things.
The other thing is that I wanted to clarify what the "digitally signed" bootloader means. Sometimes I've said things that are not really that clear....
A bootloader can be designed so that it checks and only allow properly digitally signed ROMs from being loaded. Some bootloaders do not have this "digitally signed" requirement and will load up any ROM. It is expected that the bootloader on the Droid X is one that will only work with digitally signed ROMs with Motorola's digital signature on them.
This means that only official Droid X ROMs released by Motorola itself will work on the device.
I hope that helps.
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It helps a lot, much simpler than I thought. As long as I can tweak the phone I'll be happy, essentially that's what I flashed WinMo devices for, latest OS and custom apps. I'll hope we'll get Android 3 / Gingerbread for this device at some point after it is released end of year and assume that'll be the last major update. While it would be nice to load custom roms that are free of bloat and add in common apps, I can get by with just rooting it sounds like.
Thanks.
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It helps a lot, much simpler than I thought. As long as I can tweak the phone I'll be happy, essentially that's what I flashed WinMo devices for, latest OS and custom apps. I'll hope we'll get Android 3 / Gingerbread for this device at some point after it is released end of year and assume that'll be the last major update. While it would be nice to load custom roms that are free of bloat and add in common apps, I can get by with just rooting it sounds like.
Thanks.
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I pray each and every night for a Root to the Droid X!!!
Please this needs to be rooted so I can hulk smash my eris and go buy one!
will a rooted-only droid x allow the user to change things such as the notification bar color? how about fonts or text colors? i much prefer the HTC black bar over the stock android white one. thanks in advance!
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will a rooted-only droid x allow the user to change things such as the notification bar color? how about fonts or text colors? i much prefer the HTC black bar over the stock android white one. thanks in advance!
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yes, I am 99.9% sure that you can using adb to push a different notification bar with custom colors and icons.
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yes, I am 99.9% sure that you can using adb to push a different notification bar with custom colors and icons.
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So then MetaMorph should work then, right?
Yes metamorphosis should work as long as nand. Is unlocked. But that's still not enough for me I need my custom roms etc changing the look does nothing for performance
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Yes metamorphosis should work as long as nand. Is unlocked. But that's still not enough for me I need my custom roms etc changing the look does nothing for performance
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No, I agree. I have been spoiled on the Eris and would never go back to a "regular" phone again. This just saved me spending $300 Thur, lol. I will just wait until its unlocked and rooted. And if it isnt, tons of other phones to chose from.
Good luck to the devs working on this.
Can't we use what they are using for the milestone and just work around the bootloader ?
Because they have custom roms and recovery
Is there any possible way to port that BlurHome.apk in the Droid X dump to the Motorola Droid, I couldn't find it in the forums.
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Is there any possible way to port that BlurHome.apk in the Droid X dump to the Motorola Droid, I couldn't find it in the forums.
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There is a way by most likely porting the whole build over. But I'm waiting for the droid2 to come out which is supposed to have ninjablur running on froyo. It should be a very easy port since it's basically an upgraded droid from what I've heard.
Ok, great. thanks for the reply.
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There is a way by most likely porting the whole build over. But I'm waiting for the droid2 to come out which is supposed to have ninjablur running on froyo. It should be a very easy port since it's basically an upgraded droid from what I've heard.
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so, now that the droid 2 is out, r u working on a rom?
if I may interject, that may be hard due to the locked bootloader, but stranger things have happened, though I do wonder what you find desirable in blur. Not meant to be rude, it's just that launcher pro payed has awsome homescreen widgets for social networks, and to my knowlede one of the main reasons people root is to rid their phones of forced upon software like blur. Though if it's really uninvasive, I guess I could see how that could be usefull. (oh, btw hardware changes all the time, just because its the droid 2, don't automatically think its an easy port to throw onto the D1) Did you know the Htc Incredible was originally supposed to have 8 gigs of rom, and, I believe like 2 gigs of ram, too. Though you see how that played out, slap the droid label on anything and you can sell about half the actual device to people at the same price, but I digress. Basically, if you really, really want this ported, make some developer friends online, ask nicely on the forums, or, you know, become a rom chef.
To convince someone that FLASHING the ROM on their GalaxyS or Desire is better than STOCK ROM, most people in general will not do this kind of thing lack of knowledge on the subject plus the thought of breaking it
So in order to make someone feel the need to upgrade from FROYO to GINGERBREAD with S-OFF bootloader etc.......how could you simplify it in a way they will understand
I don't convince them. Its their phone and their prerogative. I do link them up to XDA though, and go through basic benefits like smoother operation, better optics, overclocking, some great root only apps etc. But, in the end, I leave it up to them if they want to flash a Custom ROM or not.
Besides, another reason is because I wouldn't want to play tech support every time when each of them run into potential problems flashing ROMs, or experience ROM bugs. Another thing is that most people I know with Android phones get intimated and give up reading the first few intro threads for their device, no matter how simple.
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To convince someone that FLASHING the ROM on their GalaxyS or Desire is better than STOCK ROM, most people in general will not do this kind of thing lack of knowledge on the subject plus the thought of breaking it
So in order to make someone feel the need to upgrade from FROYO to GINGERBREAD with S-OFF bootloader etc.......how could you simplify it in a way they will understand
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Some of them simply don't want the hassle.
Gingerbread has security fixes and added features. They like music? What about all those equalizer apps only available to 2.3? I'd also mention the option (for low internal memory devices) that rooting allows (in CM at least) apps to be moved to the SDCard that stock does not. I'm sorry if that wasn't what you were looking for, but those are some reasons I gave Sparky (and He's clueless about this stuff)
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Gingerbread has security fixes and added features. They like music? What about all those equalizer apps only available to 2.3? I'd also mention the option (for low internal memory devices) that rooting allows (in CM at least) apps to be moved to the SDCard that stock does not. I'm sorry if that wasn't what you were looking for, but those are some reasons I gave Sparky (and He's clueless about this stuff)
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A lot of cool reasons, but most of them just wants a phone that works...
I've been there, and I have managed to get a few (just a few) to move over to Android. Another girl I know is planning to move up to Android as a legitimate smartphone instead of BB. And almost everyone in my church will be switching over to Android (including my pastor). So... I guess tech-evangelism works?
if his your son then sure he will listen to you , but to convince people to do that its quit harder reason because they are afraid maybe or something
usually to convince someone to buy something you have to show him\her what this thing can do , so probably you need to show him some vanilla love or just let him\her suffering of Froyo
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i don't convince them. Its their phone and their prerogative. I do link them up to xda though, and go through basic benefits like smoother operation, better optics, overclocking, some great root only apps etc. But, in the end, i leave it up to them if they want to flash a custom rom or not.
Besides, another reason is because i wouldn't want to play tech support every time when each of them run into potential problems flashing roms, or experience rom bugs. another thing is that most people i know with android phones get intimated and give up reading the first few intro threads for their device, no matter how simple.
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i def got tired of being tech support so now i just say check out xda you wont regret it
Firstly, please don't get me wrong here. Im not trolling in the slightest and I really appreciate all the work the devs do here.
With the HTC One having such high specs is there really any need to flash custom Roms? In my opinion all of them seem the same and don't look or feel any different to the stock rom on the One. The only benefit I can see is for Root access.
Im sure there is a lot of "under the hood" tweaks that are done but are these really noticeable or beneficial to the end user? Other peoples thoughts would be interesting.
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Firstly, please don't get me wrong here. Im not trolling in the slightest and I really appreciate all the work the devs do here.
With the HTC One having such high specs is there really any need to flash custom Roms? In my opinion all of them seem the same and don't look or feel any different to the stock rom on the One. The only benefit I can see is for Root access.
Im sure there is a lot of "under the hood" tweaks that are done but are these really noticeable or beneficial to the end user? Other peoples thoughts would be interesting.
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Actually yes, I wish to get CM working fully on HTC One.
It gives us an alternate experience than what HTC wanted us to.
Best of all, you don't have to wait so long for HTC to update their phones.
Especially when they abandon the One, we rely on CM.
But I'm really hoping for the success of the One, nobody could resist the look and feel of the One.
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Actually yes, I wish to get CM working fully on HTC One.
It gives us an alternate experience than what HTC wanted us to.
Best of all, you don't have to wait so long for HTC to update their phones.
Especially when they abandon the One, we rely on CM.
But I'm really hoping for the success of the One, nobody could resist the look and feel of the One.
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I totally agree the updates and the benefit of getting rid on Sense if you dont like it is a real benefit. But is there a need for multiple Sense custom roms?
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I totally agree the updates and the benefit of getting rid on Sense if you dont like it is a real benefit. But is there a need for multiple Sense custom roms?
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That's subjective I guess. But for something like example HTC DROID DNA or Butterfly, Sense 5 gets ported before HTC did. So I guess it's also a huge benefit.
Earlier updates is the main reason why I will be rooting, these phone networks take ages to update it's unavailable!!
Also there are some very nice skinned roms out there
I won't be unlocking my bootloader for a while. Not until I am at least sure that my device is working 100% and that will take a couple of weeks. I was eager to root it etc but I was reading about HTC's warranty and it seems as though it is a very long winded process. Maybe you wish to do the same?
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I won't be unlocking my bootloader for a while. Not until I am at least sure that my device is working 100% and that will take a couple of weeks. I was eager to root it etc but I was reading about HTC's warranty and it seems as though it is a very long winded process. Maybe you wish to do the same?
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yep ill be in no hurry either.
when i finally get a device im happy with yea i will root and flash custom rom, but not CM - Sense 5 is great and IMO is much better than stock JB - there are a few minor things I would like added, but I have no doubt they will be added to custom sense 5 roms in due course.
to me, there is no point in being a flashaholic. flash the latest stable base, and then keep up with custom kernels for battery.
thats me, idk bout u guys
Personally something that will push me over the unlock bootloader line is when either when A) IF the HTC logo can become mapped as a button, or B) A full relock becomes available lol
For me, absolutely. I consider some features (such as long press vol key to skip tracks) essential. There are also always some visual things I like to change no matter how well it is made
I just need root to enable volume key wake, and ill want to remap the keys. Everything else looks flawless
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do you need root etc. to install flash on ONE ?
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do you need root etc. to install flash on ONE ?
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What about Wi-Fi hotspot support?
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While there's obviously no NEED, a lot of people will prefer to flash ROMs for a variety of different reasons.
I'd say the main reasons are;
*The ability to have a pure AOSP look which is preferred by a lot of people (especially those who come from a Nexus device). Also, a lot of people don't like the look/feel of Sense and will therefore want to change the UI to something which is more preferable to them.
I, for example, have never tried Sense before and could quite possibly hate it once I finally test it. On the flip side of that, I may love it but at least custom ROMs will give me the ability to completely change the UI whilst giving me a ton more customizations and optimizations than a custom launcher would do.
*As mentioned at the end of the first reason, customization is a huge part of what a lot of people do with their devices. For example, when I had my SGS2 I used to love the ability to flash a simple ROM and have a ton of customization at my fingertips, so I could edit the look of my phone to my hearts content.
*Some people are simply flashaholics and have ORD (Obsessive ROM-flashing/updating Disorder). I'll normally flash every ROM in sight if the device is new and there aren't many ROMs available yet. This way it gives me a good early decision as to what type of ROM I'd prefer on said device. However, once the device starts getting more development and more ROMs start appearing in quick succession, I'll then make my mind up about which ROM to choose and generally won't change ROM for the vast majority of the devices lifetime.
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I unlocked, rooted and flashed now because in a few months time the phone will be setup perfectly; all the right apps, all the right data, all in the right place (and HTC might of discovered a way to do a Sensation on us (S-Off))
With the phone rooted I can be relatively confident of getting it back to my currently backed up state after any major updates (and, when I finally install some games, get their progress restored as well)
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Sense means HTC. I don't see any reason to buy HTC if I'm not gonna use sense.
Because HTC makes great hardware. I buy HTC exclusively, but I rip sense off it ASAP and put AOKP or CM or something without sense. Nexus devices are generally not top of the line hardware, they're supposed to be a benchmark for development (i.e. midrange). That said, N4 has more impressive specs than usual, but I can't imagine buying an LG phone. I have never realized LG even made smartphones, only flip phones until the N4 was released.
Still, HTC makes best hardware, I just generally don't like sense. That said, sense 5 does look interesting.
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Having options is nice!
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Sense means HTC. I don't see any reason to buy HTC if I'm not gonna use sense.
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To a certain extent, yes, I agree with you on that statement. However, sometimes you just need a change and it is nice to have the option of running AOSP roms as well. I would much rather go back and forth between Sense/AOSP than TouchWiz/AOSP after having my GS3.
No. Roms are for old devices. Lol
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