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I would like to know one thing.... What devs are moving on to the evo? I can't, mostly due to the fact that I'm a broke-ass son of a *****, and I'm afraid we won't have any good devs left. So.. If you're a dev, are you moving on to the EVO?
So far ive seen more than 6 devs leaving the hero. I guess i should start learning to make roms and themes pretty soon. Funny thing is as ive stated before, the EVO is not the android savior phone and it will have issues at launch. Hell they don't even know if they can root the the thing yet, look at all the trouble our devs are having even cracking the 2.1 release.
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So far ive seen more than 6 devs leaving the hero. I guess i should start learning to make roms and themes pretty soon. Funny thing is as ive stated before, the EVO is not the android savior phone and it will have issues at launch. Hell they don't even know if they can root the the thing yet, look at all the trouble our devs are having even cracking the 2.1 release.
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Good point. By the way, post one more time as a reply to this.... it'll be your 100th post!
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Good point. By the way, post one more time as a reply to this.... it'll be your 100th post!
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I even saw a few EVO's pop up on craigslist for over $700. Talk about trying to rip people off.
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I even saw a few EVO's pop up on craigslist for over $700. Talk about trying to rip people off.
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Wow.. Also, gratz on senior membership
Everyone is caught up on Froyo. I think Regaw, Treve, and me are the only ones collaborating on rooting 2.1
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evo !!!
hero is a great phone but its time to move on
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Everyone is caught up on Froyo. I think Regaw, Treve, and me are the only ones collaborating on rooting 2.1
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Id rather have rooted 2.1 then you guys can concentrate on froyo, not too much can be done anyways without the source code right?
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evo !!!
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And how long did you own the hero before you decided that?
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So far ive seen more than 6 devs leaving the hero. I guess i should start learning to make roms and themes pretty soon. Funny thing is as ive stated before, the EVO is not the android savior phone and it will have issues at launch. Hell they don't even know if they can root the the thing yet, look at all the trouble our devs are having even cracking the 2.1 release.
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There's a reason why people are considering it a "savior" type phone... for Sprint especially. Sprint doesn't have any "powerful" or full spec'ed phones like the Nexus one (T-Mobile, GSM carriers), or the Droid (Version). The Moment and Hero are the only two Android phones Sprint has, but they're not fully comparable to the Nexus one or Droid. Adding the Evo to its line up finally gets Sprint in the "Big boy club", now we'll officially have one of the most powerful/full featured/sought after phones in market.
This phone is a savior, not only for Sprint; but for Android all together. Look at all the hype it's getting and for good reason. ****, I don't care what Android phone gets the hype, as long as it takes it away from the ****ting/proprietary Apple products.
P.s. I bet you the Evo is rooted before it's official release; Modaco has rooted a couple of phones already this way. I wouldn't be surprised, especially with a phone like the Evo.
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lol thats crazy, heres to hoping you guys find root.
Good luck
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To be expected?
There's a reason why people are considering it a "savior" type phone... for Sprint/B] especially. Sprint doesn't have any "powerful" or full spec'ed phones like the Nexus one (T-Mobile, GSM carriers), or the Droid (Version). The Moment and Hero are the only two Android phones Sprint has, but there not fully comparable to the Nexus one or Droid. Adding the Evo to its line up finally gets Sprint in the "Big boy club", now we'll officially have one of the most powerful/full featured/sought after phones in market.
This phone is a savior, not only for Sprint; but for Android all together. Look at all the hype it's getting and for good reason. ****, I don't care what Android phone gets the hype, as long as it takes it away from the ****ting/proprietary Apple products.
P.s. I bet you the Evo is rooted before it's official release; Modaco has rooted a couple of phones already this way. I wouldn't be surprised, especially with a phone like the Evo.
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I know it will be rooted in time but it won't be right away and i can just see the endless threads about it.
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And how long did you own the hero before you decided that?
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like EVERY phone i get i know a update is AROUND the corner just like PC parts buy 1 part with in a few weeks/months its dates /shrug .
sad fact the hero -moment will be pushed to the side like most other phones
fact is deal with it and move on or hold on to a dated phone
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like EVERY phone i get i know a update is AROUND the corner just like PC parts buy 1 part with in a few weeks/months its dates /shrug .
sad fact the hero -moment will be pushed to the side like most other phones
fact is deal with it and move on or hold on to a dated phone
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The hero is outdated before it's time IMO but yes i know it's the way things work. It all comes down to who has the extra money to blow.
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Hell they don't even know if they can root the the thing yet, look at all the trouble our devs are having even cracking the 2.1 release.
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The EVO will be rooted, and it will be rooted before June is over. Stop posting it can't be rooted, that's false.
2.1 release isn't being handled like the original Hero release was or how the EVO release will be handled. We already have root status and 2.1 roms, so quite naturally the work on rooting the officially 2.1 is going slow. If somehow we were all magically updated to official 2.1, there would be a lot more progress on the root status of official 2.1 instead of trying to tinker with the 2.2 froyo port.
As for it not being a savior phone? It's the pure specs of the phone that are attracting most of us. 1ghz cpu, 1gb rom, 512mb RAM, not too mention many of it's features... so I fail to see how this is not a better Android/SenseUI capable phone?
Just wanted to point something out... if you click on the numbers in the poll it will tell you who voted and for yes or no.
Same here...there was a guy who listed the evo for $700(he got it from Google l/o)....at Craigslist....big time ripoff.....
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Same here...there was a guy who listed the evo for $700(he got it from Google l/o)....at Craigslist....big time ripoff.....
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Sad part is... Somebody go buy it!! And I'm going to be so jealous because that is an EASY $700 bucks..
I can see him being on a carrier other than Sprint... so he can't use the Evo as a phone.
I was going to pay full price to get the Evo since my upgrade isn't til October but I changed my mind and just going to wait. Good chance another phone will be out around that time that's just as good as the Evo if not better.
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There's a reason why people are considering it a "savior" type phone... for Sprint especially. Sprint doesn't have any "powerful" or full spec'ed phones like the Nexus one (T-Mobile, GSM carriers), or the Droid (Version). The Moment and Hero are the only two Android phones Sprint has, but they're not fully comparable to the Nexus one or Droid. Adding the Evo to its line up finally gets Sprint in the "Big boy club", now we'll officially have one of the most powerful/full featured/sought after phones in market.
This phone is a savior, not only for Sprint; but for Android all together. Look at all the hype it's getting and for good reason. ****, I don't care what Android phone gets the hype, as long as it takes it away from the ****ting/proprietary Apple products.
P.s. I bet you the Evo is rooted before it's official release; Modaco has rooted a couple of phones already this way. I wouldn't be surprised, especially with a phone like the Evo.
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I think if sprint were smart (which appears to not be the case most of the time) then they would have launched the Nexus One AND the EVO. But I guess only having one will force them to give half way decent support to someone instead of crap support to everyone.
Motorola got it so right with the Droid and then royally screwed it up with the Milestone by locking down it's bootloader, what are the odds with the new Droid X?
On a slight off topic speculation, same question for the Droid 2?
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Motorola got it so right with the Droid and then royally screwed it up with the Milestone by locking down it's bootloader, what are the odds with the new Droid X?
On a slight off topic speculation, same question for the Droid 2?
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Taking into account the number of previous models listed above, I'd say it's a 50/50 shot
cross my fingers, hope to die, stick a needle in my eye... lol
i can almost bet that the bootloader is locked. motorola said a few months back all their future phones will have locked bootloaders. just hope it can be hacked like the milestone, but desnt take as long.
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i can almost bet that the bootloader is locked. motorola said a few months back all their future phones will have locked bootloaders. just hope it can be hacked like the milestone, but desnt take as long.
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This is the only thing that would make me return the Droid X. As far as I know, the Milestone bootloader still hasn't been cracked, and months on from its release, it's not looking that likely. I'm using the first 30 days to see if I can put custom roms on there or not -- if I can't, I'll go return it and wait for a better phone.
just read and no the milestone bootloader hasnt been unlocked. just hope they dont lock down this bootloader if they do i will keep my droid around for hacking perposes
If I cant put custom roms on this phone, I will not be getting it.
we may have to wait and see if their going to lock it down. i pray not, i want to keep custom roms but would rather overclock and keep the stock usablility or just theme my phone
From what I've heard, the bootloader is signed. Does anybody know if there's been any progress on the Milestone with the kexec method?
Are retail devices have Locked BootLoaders.
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Are retail devices have Locked BootLoaders.
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That's a bit of a bummer, but I mean the phone is just plainly better than an Evo. Even if it can't flash roms, having root inside the OS is still ok. I mean that way we can do wifi tethering and stuff like that.
What really impresses me from this phone is the GPU. The Evo's sucks.
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That's a bit of a bummer, but I mean the phone is just plainly better than an Evo. Even if it can't flash roms, having root inside the OS is still ok. I mean that way we can do wifi tethering and stuff like that.
What really impresses me from this phone is the GPU. The Evo's sucks.
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Yeah, the GPU in this is really helping to sell me on it. TBH I don't mind not having custom ROMs (Android custom ROM's aren't nearly as necessary as WinMo custom ROMs IMO), but I really want to be able to overclock, since hopefully this will be able to get up to 1.2-1.3GHz, at least.
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Yeah, the GPU in this is really helping to sell me on it. TBH I don't mind not having custom ROMs (Android custom ROM's aren't nearly as necessary as WinMo custom ROMs IMO), but I really want to be able to overclock, since hopefully this will be able to get up to 1.2-1.3GHz, at least.
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I am sure it can do those frequencies provided someone hacks the bootloader. But I have a feeling even if the snapdragon is at 1.2ghz it probably is equal to the Droid x's 1ghz OMAP proc.
It's just a better phone, it just has a bit odd stylistically, thank goodness the front looks smexy.
I wish Froyo would come out to it earlier, but it's not a must. (I want Flash )
With all the competition I can't see myself picking this up with a locked boot loader. Development efforts will seriously be non existent. Foolish on motorola's part. They gain nothing by locking it and ultimately lose sales.
Can someone clarify: an earlier poster said that the bootloader had been accessed, but the rest of the posts are going along the lines that the bootloader is NOT unlocked...
does anyone have any clarity for this one
timing?
Using the Droid as an example anyone remember how long it took "them" to figure out whether the bootloader was locked? Trying to figure out if this will be determined before I trying to pick one up on the 15th.
Wow this has been eye opening. I have been a long time winmo user and love flashing ROM's. I'm about to switch to verizon and was already sold on the X but after reading about the locked boot loader I think I'll stick with HTC devices, or at least the original moto droid. This will be a deal breaker sorry moto
There is a person at androidforums who has a Droid X. He is doing a Q&A right now. He has been asked twice (once by me) if the bootloader is locked or not. He is unsure how to check this (as am I). Figured someone here may be able to help him out. Since I cannot post links the thread is "Droid X in my hands on monday". Hopefully something good will come out of this.
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Wow this has been eye opening. I have been a long time winmo user and love flashing ROM's. I'm about to switch to verizon and was already sold on the X but after reading about the locked boot loader I think I'll stick with HTC devices, or at least the original moto droid. This will be a deal breaker sorry moto
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All Winmo / HTC phones are locked at the beginning and you get a great unlocker usually from Olipro. It usually takes a month or so for this to happen. Not sure why you would think an Android device would be different or why this would be a deal breaker for you. I am sure there will be someone who knows enough about the bootloader who will figure out how to unlock it.
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All Winmo / HTC phones are locked at the beginning and you get a great unlocker usually from Olipro. It usually takes a month or so for this to happen. Not sure why you would think an Android device would be different or why this would be a deal breaker for you. I am sure there will be someone who knows enough about the bootloader who will figure out how to unlock it.
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I would feel more at ease if the precedence set by the milestone didn't exist...
Alright, I currently have an Incredible. I have yet to root it, because I'm thinking about using my 30 day satisfaction guarantee to switch for the DroidX. Now, from my understanding, root is essentially inevitable on all phones. However, the Incredible has custom ROMs available already, whereas from reading a thread elsewhere, it's looking like it will be nigh impossible to get custom ROMs for the DroidX? Is this true? Does that mean the Incredible is unsigned?
I was considering switching to the DroidX because of the bigger screen, better video and sound quality, among other reasons. Should I still consider this, or am I better off sticking with my Incredible?
The Inc. bootloader apparently will work with non-signed ROMs. Motorola has started to make their bootloaders check for a valid digital signature on any ROM it starts to load. If there is not a valid digital signature on the ROM, it won't load it. Therefore you cannot load a custom ROM with that type of bootloader. It hasn't been determined if the bootloader on the X will only work with digitally signed ROMs, but that is the expectation.
Whether or not you care depends on what you expect to do with the phone. Many people don't care to load custom ROMs. If the manufacturer keeps up with development, then the need for custom ROMs drops even further. There will always be those people that want to play around and tweak ROMs, but the general poplulation won't bother with ROMs.
It just depends on what you want to do.....
This is purely a guess... but I would venture to say the X will be rooted at some point. I'm basing this off the assumption nothing new is being implemented here. I can't imagine this phone is suddenly using some new technology that cannot be cracked.
But who knows. Only time will tell.
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It just depends on what you want to do.....
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As I understand it, the Milestone is the only phone Motorola has locked down the ability to load unsigned roms. Is it also the only Android phone released by Motorola since the Droid? How can we know if this is something they simply decided to do after they released the Droid or if it was a one-off? I've read they said they will require signed roms on all future phones, but who knows. I thought the Droid was vanilla android, is the milestone not. If it runs without a manufacturer custom UI, what's the point of locking it down?
I dropped my iPhone in the lake a month ago, but was planning on replacing it in July with an Android phone anyway. I was waiting for the Evo, and now the Droid X but I don't think I can wait any longer without a phone. Reading all the reviews of the Droid X I've just ignored all critisism of the UI assuming I'd be able to throw vanilla Froyo on there within a few days when the community released something. This is really discouraging and sorry to say even with the Motorola UI I think it's still my best option. As a side rant, I know it's been said before, but I don't see how this is any different than buying a computer and not being allowed to put whatever OS I want on it as long as I can find drivers. It seems like the sort of thing the FTC would go after Dell or HP for doing, so why should smart-phones be any different, especially unsubsidized? In short, to answer your question, I'd like to not have the annoyance of feeling like MY hardware is being arbitrarily limited by the manufacturer, even if their custom android "does" everything I need it to.
What if you wanted to do development on your phone and not just virtual consoles on your computer. In a year or two is your only option going to be a designated development phone like the Nexus One? I can see why it has little effect on Motorola, people who care make up a very small percentage, but shouldn't Google care enough to step in and prevent Motorola from doing this?
Ok, I'm fairly new to all this, which leads me to my confusion on this issue. If we are worried about the bootloader, as with the milestone - no roms then what is this about?
[ROM][V0.3][28.06.2010] Senseui Mod for Milestone - xda-developers
Is he using a different version of milestone?
All im looking to do is get rid of the bloat apps that the X comes with. Even if we cant have custom roms, can this still be done? Im coming from an Omnia and i know the only way to get rid of the useless stuff was to flash. Does this work the same way with Android?
Yes Yes i have never had a Android phone before. Very excited about making the switch once the X is released
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Ok, I'm fairly new to all this, which leads me to my confusion on this issue. If we are worried about the bootloader, as with the milestone - no roms then what is this about?
[ROM][V0.3][28.06.2010] Senseui Mod for Milestone - xda-developers
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From what I understand, there's a[n experimental?] method to bypass the bootloader entirely on the milestone, and slip in a custom ROM that way. I think it's called kextern.
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All im looking to do is get rid of the bloat apps that the X comes with. Even if we cant have custom roms, can this still be done? Im coming from an Omnia and i know the only way to get rid of the useless stuff was to flash. Does this work the same way with Android?
Yes Yes i have never had a Android phone before. Very excited about making the switch once the X is released
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Once it's rooted, yes, you could easily do that. However if you don't like the psuedo-blur UI, there would be no way to get rid of that if the bootloader is encrypted.
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However if you don't like the psuedo-blur UI, there would be no way to get rid of that if the bootloader is encrypted.
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Installing something like LauncherPro will go a long way towards removing the blur-like elements on the droidx. Getting rid of the motorola widgets and using a 3rd party launcher brings you fairly close to a stock android experience.
about DroidX development
The developer will need to CUSTOM make it for the EVO.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1519448&page=21:D
once we get it ported to the D3 helloooo camcorder and adobe flash!
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this loads a seperate kernel once the stock locked one loads so we can run a custom kernel for our roms.
GAHH!!!!!!
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fap?
This looks awesome, I can't wait to get chrome loaded up on my XT860 running AOKP.
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fap?
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yes, this is worthy of a fap, once its ported my body is ready
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yes, this is worthy of a fap, once its ported my body is ready
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If this works for us, im kicking Bar Refaeli out of my house. This would be better than anything she could provide.
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yes, this is worthy of a fap, once its ported my body is ready
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your body...LMAO!!!!!
Well, we won't necessarily have it in a few days. It will take a lot of work to port it to our devices because of hardware differences, and we would need someone very good at coding these types of things.
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Well, we won't necessarily have it in a few days. It will take a lot of work to port it to our devices because of hardware differences, and we would need someone very good at coding these types of things.
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it wont be as hard as it seems, we have the same internals as the razr minus the 1gb ram. i dont know if the kexec is the same (it should be for the omap 4430) but the only coding that would be different is getting the kexec to take the modded kernel. once its released for the razr within the week im sure hash is gonna have some fun with this.
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it wont be as hard as it seems, we have the same internals as the razr minus the 1gb ram. i dont know if the kexec is the same (it should be for the omap 4430) but the only coding that would be different is getting the kexec to take the modded kernel. once its released for the razr within the week im sure hash is gonna have some fun with this.
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There was some discussion of this over at the Razr forum in that thread. The differences between the GSM and CDMA versions of the Razr are alone enough to cause major pains in porting it between the two devices, and it was originally developed for the GSM version.
i would think that since its a nice sized topic in our razr forums its gonna work for CDMA too. the dev of the work around won a developer contest and recieved a CDMA razr along with kejar.
Yay gsm!
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Pardon my ignorance on the topic, but this allows us to use another kernel on top of the stock one, but not replace it right? Is the only downside a longer boot time? Also will this be relatively easy to port due to similar hardware or will that another challenge in itself.
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Pardon my ignorance on the topic, but this allows us to use another kernel on top of the stock one, but not replace it right? Is the only downside a longer boot time? Also will this be relatively easy to port due to similar hardware or will that another challenge in itself.
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so far the longer boot time is the only downside but its not a bad thing considering we reboot only to flash roms or refresh the phone a couple times a week and since it will let us have a fully working rom. this lets the phone boot with the gingerbread kernel behind the bootloader, then after the M splash screen it will boot into the ICS or modified GB kernel that is loaded.
we would have to have hashcode or anyone that has any kind of knowledge of how this really works tell us the time frame. as it stands we dont know anything other than it works on GSM razrs, and the dev has a CDMA razr he is porting it to and its days from release. we need to see the details on how to approach porting this to the D3/D4/bionic. it may not be that hard since its designed to do only 1 thing and hardware is mostly the same.
OP you are being way too optimistic in this thread. Chances of this being ported for D3 is very low as aboves has stated. It won't be anywhere as easy as changing the string "RAZR" to "Droid 3" in the kernels
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OP you are being way too optimistic in this thread. Chances of this being ported for D3 is very low as aboves has stated. It won't be anywhere as easy as changing the string "RAZR" to "Droid 3" in the kernels
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like i said we have a few guys in here that have experience with coding. if it could be done with the cdma razr it can be done for the rest of them.
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like i said we have a few guys in here that have experience with coding. if it could be done with the cdma razr it can be done for the rest of them.
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It's taking quite a long time to be ported from the GSM Razr to the CDMA one, though. There aren't many hardware differences between those two devices, but for those differences it's taking a large amount of time. Now imagine how long it will take, and how complicated it will be to port, with all of the hardware differences between the Droid 3 and the Razr (and not to mention the different models of the D3; I assume a kexec module for the XT862 would not work on the XT860 or XT883 without changes). You are being a bit too optimistic here, especially with your thread title. It's less a bootloader bypass and more a "we're just gonna load our own kernel after the bootloader loaded the default one, but we still can't change anything about the boot process."
I hate to be the bearer of bad news and the one to shoot down everyone's hopes and dreams, but at the same time I don't want people to get too worked up over this and then get incredibly disappointed when it doesn't come or takes ungodly forever for it to come to use.
Well, you went to the other extreme and assumed it's impossible to port and that even if it could be done it would suck or something like that.
I'd like to take a more neutral stance on this and
a) be exited that this approach is being taken on locked devices.
b) be exited that a relatively similar device to the D3 is getting this kind of attention. because it could make things easier for D3 devs to port it to this device.
c) wait patiently, with no ETA expectations and offer to help with whatever I can to the devs.
I think it's much better than waiting for someone to crack moto's keys.
It's at least a chance.
Hope devs can ( and want to ) do something with this : )
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It's taking quite a long time to be ported from the GSM Razr to the CDMA one, though. There aren't many hardware differences between those two devices, but for those differences it's taking a large amount of time. Now imagine how long it will take, and how complicated it will be to port, with all of the hardware differences between the Droid 3 and the Razr (and not to mention the different models of the D3; I assume a kexec module for the XT862 would not work on the XT860 or XT883 without changes). You are being a bit too optimistic here, especially with your thread title. It's less a bootloader bypass and more a "we're just gonna load our own kernel after the bootloader loaded the default one, but we still can't change anything about the boot process."
I hate to be the bearer of bad news and the one to shoot down everyone's hopes and dreams, but at the same time I don't want people to get too worked up over this and then get incredibly disappointed when it doesn't come or takes ungodly forever for it to come to use.
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Hello. I will be receiving a Droid 3 as a warranty replacement tomorrow. It comes with ICS (Ice Cream Sandwich) pre-installed. I have been searching, and cannot find a way to root the Droid 3.
I am hoping I missed it. If someone can point me to the tutorial for rooting the Droid 3 with ICS, I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks in advance.
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Hello. I will be receiving a Droid 3 as a warranty replacement tomorrow. It comes with ICS (Ice Cream Sandwich) pre-installed. I have been searching, and cannot find a way to root the Droid 3.
I am hoping I missed it. If someone can point me to the tutorial for rooting the Droid 3 with ICS, I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks in advance.
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Where did you hear it will come with ICS...? Because it won't.
I was told this by the Verizon rep. It is a warranty replacement. he specifically said it has ICS on it. No, I am not mistaken. Maybe he was?
Even if it doesn't, I have been unable to find a tutorial for rooting the Droid 3.
I can assure you that it will not be arriving with ICS, I'm sure he must have been mistaken. It will most likely be running Gingerbread 2.3.4 with the 5.6.890 system software.
Anywho... here is the tutorial you are looking for http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1240130
If you do get one with ics on it then I will be calling Verizon and having them replace my phone for one like that
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If you do get one with ics on it then I will be calling Verizon and having them replace my phone for one like that
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If you get a phone w/ics system dump before anything else please, if you need a hand lots of people here will help (or on irc) but since moto still has the d3 listed as "evaluating" for ics and haven't even started working on a build I would say the rep is more than likely mistaken. Hopefully not but if moto had an ics build for the d3 I imagine we would have heard about a soak or something. As for your question I would probably try the root for d4 and if that didn't work check out what they're using on the nexus etc
If you do get ICS please tweet Hash. We really could benefit from it.
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We would still have a locked bootloader and the same kernel issues though. I'd put money on the rep being wrong, but I'd like to be proven wrong.
so what version of android did you end up getting on the d3?
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You folks were right. He was wrong. It has 2.3.4.
It runs pretty fast, compares well to the DX2. I wanted CM ROM on it, but none are completely working. Camera has issues GSM FCs and so forth. I just wish my DX2 would work. Haven't used a physical keyboard in a while either.
What do you folks think of your Droid 3s?
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What do you folks think of your Droid 3s?
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I bought my D3 FOR the keyboard. I came from an enV touch and the thought of a touchscreen keyboard that wasn't 100% perfect made me shiver. Looking back, I would definitely have gone with a SGS II. I didn't know anything about the D3's bootloader being locked and the full touch screen is definitely worth the unlocked bootloader. That being said, I still love the keyboard. It's better than any I have ever used.
I don't hate my Droid 3. It runs my ICS roms rather smoothly and the only thing that I wished worked is Google Chrome. I use the camera but I found that I have not wanted to use the video recorder since switching; even if it DID work.
If you want a CM ROM that is pretty stable, I'd recommend 7.2 found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1308924
It's a bit more stable than CM9, though it still has some bugs. Stable enough for a daily driver in my opinion.
My d3 is alright but if I was sent one now with any option of sending back either for a different phone or terminate a contract(within 30 days or whatever and setup a new one) I would jump @ the chance, just because its a little old, 1g ram would be nice but imo it's like dual core phones, 1 core is wasted 90% of the time, upgradable to ics would be very nice too, custom kernel would be nicest though(htc,lg etc etc). I guess what I'm saying is its decent but I wouldn't buy one now.
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I'd say droid 3 is all about the keyboard. Without the keyboard, there would be many better phones. Phones with 1GB ram, unlocked bootloader and a better screen.
However, I'd rather have a keyboard than have those ^ things without a keyboard .
It seems to run faster, and more smooth than my Droid X2. It's ugly though, and it will take some getting used to a physical keyboard again. I have it rooted, radiocom hacked. I want to tweak the camera, but the thread is confusing me a bit as to which zip to use, or which edits to make to build.pro and the XML file. I would prefer to edit rather than install a zip as I don't really want a bootstrap on the phone.
App Brain is making me frustrated though, since Fast Web Installer will not log in.
So far, I am loving this.
Another heartbreak. If D3 doesn't gets ICS by July, I'll let it go.
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