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Can be friends with a magnet?

Was wondering if the Nexus will be damaged if next to a magnetic money clip?

I haven't tried it... But I vaguely remember learning in school that
Magnets +Electronics = Bad

inferus said:
I haven't tried it... But I vaguely remember learning in school that
Magnets +Electronics = Bad
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Yeah, but with blackberries that uses a magnet to turn on/off its display when put into a case, wonder if the magnet in the clip is strong enough to do any damage.

Good example. Even palm uses magnetic induction for touchstone. Maybe those phones are built with magnets in mind. Not really sure if Nexus is built that way.

LONG TERM I'd wonder about the compass.. temporary close proximity with a reasonably powerful magnet I'd think is okay, but constant close proximity I'd be afraid would polarize it incorrectly.
But just to make sure, where is this money clip, and where is the phone? Surely not in the same pocket? If so, that's the number one problem in your question here.. I wouldn't put the N1 in a pocket unless it was EMPTY, even at that you're more likely to get lint in bad places. Get a belt case, horizontal or vertical.

Nexus 7 has a smart cover sensor.

Just saw this on Engadget
Seems like it has a smart cover sensor. Looks like we might get a ipad style cover in the future
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wx30f6XV-Bk

Note that Apple has a patent on the smart cover.
You might have to add your own magnet and hope Apple does not find out.

rmm200 said:
Note that Apple has a patent on the smart cover.
You might have to add your own magnet and hope Apple does not find out.
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Ok we will call it "Cover7" or "Intelli-Cover"
Eat that apple

rmm200 said:
Note that Apple has a patent on the smart cover.
You might have to add your own magnet and hope Apple does not find out.
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Is there anything they haven't patented? Maybe Air? Life Itself?

CooLoserTech said:
Ok we will call it "Cover7" or "Intelli-Cover"
Eat that apple
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That's not how patents work.

Kas206 said:
Just saw this on Engadget
Seems like it has a smart cover sensor. Looks like we might get a ipad style cover in the future
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wx30f6XV-Bk
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Already being discussed in the Accessories section. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28616314&postcount=6

its on the wrong side, the covers hinge is on that side if its the same cover as on the play store

rmm200 said:
Note that Apple has a patent on the smart cover.
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My thoughts exactly, will mod the factory cover with a magnet.

It is near the pogo pins, so may have some dock associated function.

Kas206 said:
Is there anything they haven't patented? Maybe Air? Life Itself?
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Macbook Air. iLife.

What's next? iandroid the new fresh apple idea...then they can sue google for making android devices
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Apple doesn't hold this patent, because Blackberry's could do it before Apple started using it.

rmm200 said:
Note that Apple has a patent on the smart cover.
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You cannot patent "Magnet unlocks screen". That is far too board. It would need to be a specific exact way of doing so.
If they are allowed that, then I am allowed to patent phone chargers.

TrevSo said:
Macbook Air. iLife.
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That made me laugh.

Locklear308 said:
You cannot patent "Magnet unlocks screen". That is far too board. It would need to be a specific exact way of doing so.
If they are allowed that, then I am allowed to patent phone chargers.
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I don't know. In my opinion that is a good hardware idea and should be patented,with more specifics rather than just stating a magnet.
But if what the person above says is true about blackberry doing it first then no they shouldn't be able to patent it.
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beanfarmer said:
its on the wrong side, the covers hinge is on that side if its the same cover as on the play store
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Not if they put the magnet on the side near the hing. This could also get around apples patent issue. Once the covers open the the magnet would still be far enough away not to effect it. It would still work the same.

This guy is probably just frying his LCD screen controller or something like that, that happens to be in
The bottom left corner of the tablet. Rofl
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rmm200 said:
Note that Apple has a patent on the smart cover.
You might have to add your own magnet and hope Apple does not find out.
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They dont actually, not in the manner in which you suggest at least. As far as patents go, and especially Apple patents their patent in regards to the smart cover is not at all broad and doesn't attempt to cover the entire smart cover like you say as if to suggest anything that covers the screen with a material and comes in various infringes on it, and if you throw in a magnet than you are really pushing it. Not at all, first and most obvious the tech. has been around, blackberry used it before apple in their cases to sleep the phone and display instantly upon sliding it into their cases and laptops long before that used magnets when closing to sleep/hibernate and just powersave the screen. Apples patent in RE: Smart covers is only for magnets to the degree they are used in the smart cover to attatch the cover to the device quickly and easily and have it automatically align and snap in and also allowing the the cover to be easily removed with ha certain amount of force but stay attatched and secured. Anyway point being there is no way even Apple would attempt to say they have this patented. I feel like theyve got enough crazy stuff patented to not need to throw ones in that they actually dont have. here is the details of their actual smart cover patent. http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/20/apple-snags-a-patent-for-the-smart-covers-magnetic-know-how/

The N7 is said to have a Hall effect sensor, so it should support 'smart covers'.

Kas206 said:
Is there anything they haven't patented? Maybe Air? Life Itself?
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good one.

Ask me about my DODOcase

Well, got my DODOcase in the mail today. It won't shield your Nexus 7 from large amounts of physical abuse, but I got it so I can put my tablet down without having to worry about scratching it up. There is indeed a magnet embedded in it to turn the tablet on when you open it, off when you close it.
I would post a picture, but I am not allowed by the forum software.

Maybe an attachment will work?

There's another thread for Dodo case http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1795089

TahrirSquare said:
There's another thread for Dodo case http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1795089
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That seemed like it devolved into a patent argument. I will answer questions there too though.

Question: if you flip the cover all the way back, does the magnet turn off the screen? Thanks.

How does it fell when holding it? As in, with the cover folded back does the thick side feel strange? Do you trust the adhesive? How thin is it when closed? How well does the stand work on a normal desk surface?
Thanks!

Clarkster said:
How does it fell when holding it? As in, with the cover folded back does the thick side feel strange? Do you trust the adhesive? How thin is it when closed? How well does the stand work on a normal desk surface?
Thanks!
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+1
I prefer to hold the N7 in portrait format when I'm out and about.

EPhibian said:
Maybe an attachment will work?
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New test leper is a great song

Clarkster said:
How does it fell when holding it? As in, with the cover folded back does the thick side feel strange?
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Just like a book; Kinda scary the first time, it really feels like cracking open a hard-cover book.
Do you trust the adhesive?
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Without question. There is no way the tablet will come out without some serious force (not so much it does damage if you do want to remove it fthough).
How thin is it when closed?
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3/4 of an inch, not quite two tablets on top of each other I think.
How well does the stand work on a normal desk surface?
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I am assuming you mean setting it on its side in land-scape mode? That is the one thing that is a little weird. From what I see on the site, you basically but the elastic band underneath the opposite end. It keeps it up-right, but there is not much room for adjustment. I don't use tablets in that way very often though.

danlo said:
Question: if you flip the cover all the way back, does the magnet turn off the screen? Thanks.
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Nope, only when you close it the right way.

danlo said:
I prefer to hold the N7 in portrait format when I'm out and about.
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I should clarify that that actually works well for me.

I just got one of these DODOcases and I'm really impressed with it. The adhesive is surprisingly strong, once you have the Nexus 7 in place it does not budge a millimeter. I'm very partial to the low profile that this case offers. The 'smart cover' functionality works just as expected. It's not going to give you an Otterbox level of protection, but it should be enough do the job in preventing damage if you were to accidentially drop it in a normal day-to-day situation.
It's not quite as comfortable to hold with the case as it is without, particularly in landscape mode. That's to be expected since I feel that one of the real strengths of the Nexus 7 was how comfortable it is to hold, and with any case you're likely to give up a little bit of that. It feels like you're holding a small hardback book, and that's not an unpleasant feeling. The adhesive is so strong that I might be more hesitant to remove the Nexus from the case as often as I might with a different case, but that might be a good thing. The only other drawback to the case is that the stand functionality that the case offers is pretty limited, and as a result it doesn't support very good viewing angles for landscape mode viewing on a desk or table top. If they marketed a stand to go along with the case they could probably do some business.
The aesthetic touches do have a nice emotional resonance for me, it really does add a classic 'reading a book" feeling to using the Nexus.
All in all I'd give it a 9/10

Do you guys have an extra coupon code you can message me? Thanks

cyi1 said:
Do you guys have an extra coupon code you can message me? Thanks
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Here ya go http://curebit.com/x/QKua1 . I think that will expire in a couple days, FYI.

I don't use facebook lol oh well. going with treegloo

I picked up a Dodo hardcase for my N7 yesterday straight at the HQ. It's pretty awesome all around.
Adhesive is strong and as was said previously, the device doesn't move a mm. That said, the power and volume buttons are awkwardly positioned because they are slightly set back from the edge of the tablet so you need to sort of wedge your finger under (not far) to push them. The landscape stand works pretty well using the elastic band and clips but the angle is not adjustable. Folded back the device feels good in the hand and the magnet doesn't affect the device improperly when in the fully open position behind the tablet.
The look and feel of the case are very high quality and I love that it's made start to finish here in SF. I got a little tour of the factory, which is probably smaller than you imagine given the brand presence and there were some cases being assembled while I was in there. Everyone that I spoke with was super nice and you know this is a company that believes in their product and would stand behind it. It seems that they've come up with a great, innovative repurposing of bookbinding machinery.

Does the adhesive leave any residue on the back?
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redmonke255 said:
Does the adhesive leave any residue on the back?
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You prompted me to attempt to remove it for the first time. The answer is no residue whatsoever. However, that adhesive is really really strong. I unclipped the back panel from the screen on accident while pulling it up. No harm done it just pressed back together.

How does this work for gaming in landscape? Ex. Deadtrigger
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taC nayN said:
How does this work for gaming in landscape? Ex. Deadtrigger
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I'm not familiar with that game but I looked at it on the Play store. Not sure how well it would work? Can't see it being a problem though.

[Q] Nexus6 Wallet

Hello,
When I buy a Wallet Case for my Nexus6, do I have to consider buying a wallet with an opening on the Wireless Charging point (The M Symbol) ? Like this one.
Will the Wireless Charging work if there is no opening ?
This one doesn't have that opening.
Please suggest.
Thanks.

The center of the coil is about 1/3 of the way up from the bottom, so in a way it is exactly opposite the dimple.
I use a Ringke SLIM which is solid on the back and have no issues with Qi charging, other than the need to skew the phone bit high on the charger to center up the coils.

If it'll charge through a Ballistic Tough Jacket Maxx (and it does...), then you have nothing to worry about.
Hurry up and HIDE the ugly M logo.

Hello,
I need a Nexus6 Wallet with cut-offs for camera, power & volume buttons, 2 speakers, charger & audio ports, Moto Logo (not necessary). Do you know any Wallets that meets these requirements ? For most wallets, the cut-off for power & volume buttons won't be there. There will be buttons instead.
What about the Magnet Flap like this ?
Will it be dangerous for the data ?
Thanks.

aniyan.rajan6 said:
Hello,
I need a Nexus6 Wallet with cut-offs for camera, power & volume buttons, 2 speakers, charger & audio ports, Moto Logo (not necessary). Do you know any Wallets that meets these requirements ? For most wallets, the cut-off for power & volume buttons won't be there. There will be buttons instead.
What about the Magnet Flap like this ?
Will it be dangerous for the data ?
Thanks.
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It shouldn't be able to harm your data in any way. The storage isn't magnetic these days. It might harm any credit cards you put in it though if you put them in the wrong way. Spigen even includes a note about that telling you which way the magnetic strip should go.
Looks like a good wallet case to be honest. The first one I've seen with a magnetic closure as well as cutouts for both speakers. Kind of want one myself now.

Obscure Reference said:
It shouldn't be able to harm your data in any way. The storage isn't magnetic these days. It might harm any credit cards you put in it though if you put them in the wrong way. Spigen even includes a note about that telling you which way the magnetic strip should go.
Looks like a good wallet case to be honest. The first one I've seen with a magnetic closure as well as cutouts for both speakers. Kind of want one myself now.
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Good to hear that it helped you. I'm also looking for a similar one, but with cutout for the Power and Volume buttons in additional. I'm not going to store my cards in the phone wallet anyway.

Hello,
I have a question regarding this kind of Wallet. I am very doubtful, whether the Power & Volume Buttons on the case will damage the actual Power & Volume Buttons on the phone. I feel that it would be safer if I could press those buttons on the phone with my finger, as the buttons on the Wallet Case may be in a wrong position. What is your opinion about this ? Anyone having such problems ?
Thanks.

aniyan.rajan6 said:
Hello,
I have a question regarding this kind of Wallet. I am very doubtful, whether the Power & Volume Buttons on the case will damage the actual Power & Volume Buttons on the phone. I feel that it would be safer if I could press those buttons on the phone with my finger, as the buttons on the Wallet Case may be in a wrong position. What is your opinion about this ? Anyone having such problems ?
Thanks.
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Please look through the accessories forum, here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/accessories

aniyan.rajan6 said:
Hello,
I have a question regarding this kind of Wallet. I am very doubtful, whether the Power & Volume Buttons on the case will damage the actual Power & Volume Buttons on the phone. I feel that it would be safer if I could press those buttons on the phone with my finger, as the buttons on the Wallet Case may be in a wrong position. What is your opinion about this ? Anyone having such problems ?
Thanks.
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I've been using this case for 2 months now, and I'm not entirely happy with it.
The protection is excellent, also the buttons are perfectly aligned so no risk there. It's just easy to press the wrong one.
The main problem is that this case is really, REALLY bulky and heavy (keep in mind that I'm not new to phablets, I've been using them exclusively for 3 years now), because of the flat back. Also, the leather is wearing out quite a lot at the corners.

veesix said:
I've been using this case for 2 months now, and I'm not entirely happy with it.
The protection is excellent, also the buttons are perfectly aligned so no risk there. It's just easy to press the wrong one.
The main problem is that this case is really, REALLY bulky and heavy (keep in mind that I'm not new to phablets, I've been using them exclusively for 3 years now), because of the flat back. Also, the leather is wearing out quite a lot at the corners.
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Thanks bari for the info. So which one do you suggest ?

aniyan.rajan6 said:
Thanks bari for the info. So which one do you suggest ?
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I'm not sure, actually, haven't searched yet for a replacement. I'd suggest to look for a wallet case that follows the curved back of the phone.

veesix said:
I'm not sure, actually, haven't searched yet for a replacement. I'd suggest look for a wallet case that follows the curved back of the phone.
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You are right. But I think that can be only found in a Back Cover Protector (Bumper). I think all the wallets that I have seen are flat at the back side.

aniyan.rajan6 said:
You are right. But I think that can be only found in a Back Cover Protector (Bumper). I think all the wallets that I have seen are flat at the back side.
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That stilgut book case you posted looks fine and follows the shape of the phone. Sure, it's quite expensive.

veesix said:
That stilgut book case you posted looks fine and follows the shape of the phone. Sure, it's quite expensive.
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Yes , I remember it is curvy at the back side. But too much expensive in my place (India). It is around 3 times the price of that Spigen Wallet S. It might be good quality, but I can buy a phone for that price Also another disadvantage with Stilgut is that it doesn't cover (protection) the top and bottom at all. No magnetic closure etc.

aniyan.rajan6 said:
Yes , I remember it is curvy at the back side. But too much expensive in my place (India). It is around 3 times the price of that Spigen Wallet S. It might be good quality, but I can buy a phone for that price Also another disadvantage with Stilgut is that it doesn't cover (protection) the top and bottom at all. No magnetic closure etc.
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Well, as I said, the protection is excellent with the Spiegen. Some pictures, so you can judge by yourself:

veesix said:
Well, as I said, the protection is excellent with the Spiegen. Some pictures, so you can judge by yourself:
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Yes I can see the leather worn out at the corners. It also seems bulky. Have you tried Qi Wireless charging with this wallet ?
Thanks.

aniyan.rajan6 said:
Yes I can see the leather worn out at the corners. It also seems bulky. Have you tried Qi Wireless charging with this wallet ?
Thanks.
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You're welcome
I don't have a wireless charger, so no, I haven't tried.

veesix,
This one has a curvy back, with cutouts for all ports. But the top and bottom side of the phone are still open. Actually, there is no perfect wallet or case

aniyan.rajan6 said:
veesix,
This one has a curvy back, with cutouts for all ports. But the top and bottom side of the phone are still open. Actually, there is no perfect wallet or case
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No, there's no such thing as a perfect case
I wouldn't mind if the top and bottom of the phone are less protected. Most important thing is the screen, and I don't want to use a screen protector.

Your thoughts on magnetic holsters

Im looking for a holster, i found some but most have a magnetic closure. Im not sure if its ok for our phones so i just wantes your thoughts or experience with it. I use samsung pay every day and i dont want any sensor to be off because of the magnets.
Maybe im a little paranoid over it because it probably takes an extremely powerful magnet to cause any harm but im not willing to test it out lol

None of the magnetic items for the phones will cause any harm to your phone.
You may notice that the stylus doesn't work where the magnet is, but it will work just fine when you move the magnet.

As a Samsung Experience Consultant, I do not recommend anything magnetic, I think they mess with the device internals.

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As a Samsung Experience Consultant, I do not recommend anything magnetic, I think they mess with the device internals.
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You do know many manufacturers use magnets in their devices and accessories, including Samsung and Apple, right? Every Apple smart case / cover utilizes magnets and (as much as I love Android) I can honestly think of no more reliable tablet than the iPad.

kmarx said:
As a Samsung Experience Consultant, I do not recommend anything magnetic, I think they mess with the device internals.
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You think or you know?
You should only be putting out info if you know. If you don't know, and it is clear you don't, then you should not speak on a subject.
Magnets will in no way harm the phone unless you are using super powerful magnets, what you use to hold the phone to a dock and things like that won't bother it in the least bit.

I do not recommend any of the Samsung Flip Cases to customers because I have seen them cause problems with devices before. I do not recommend magnetic closures because I have seen them cause problems with devices.
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You think or you know?
You should only be putting out info if you know. If you don't know, and it is clear you don't, then you should not speak on a subject.
Magnets will in no way harm the phone unless you are using super powerful magnets, what you use to hold the phone to a dock and things like that won't bother it in the least bit.
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kmarx said:
I do not recommend any of the Samsung Flip Cases to customers because I have seen them cause problems with devices before. I do not recommend magnetic closures because I have seen them cause problems with devices.
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What sort of issues have you seen?
It seems strange that Samsung would release a product that would interfere with one of its flagship products and sell it as an accessory.

Mayonesa said:
Im looking for a holster, i found some but most have a magnetic closure. Im not sure if its ok for our phones so i just wantes your thoughts or experience with it. I use samsung pay every day and i dont want any sensor to be off because of the magnets.
Maybe im a little paranoid over it because it probably takes an extremely powerful magnet to cause any harm but im not willing to test it out lol
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I'm not sure if this is specifically what you're asking about, but I've been using a Scosche MagicMount (http://amzn.com/B00I608BJ8) for my car dash and love it! I lay the larger metal plate (it comes with two sizes) at the bottom of my case, oriented where the longer sides are parallel to the bottom of the phone (let me know if you need a picture). I don't stick the plate to my phone, but rather set it inside my case. It turns out to be the perfect length and height for the Note 5. Wireless charging and Samsung Pay still work great. I used that picture of the Note 5 where someone made the back of transparent to make sure the wireless charging coil inside the phone does not over lap with the metal plate that comes with the mount.

I bought a nice leatherette case for my Note 5 only to find that the S-Pen does not work on the right hand side where the magnet is. I took it off immediately and went back to my Body Glove case.

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You think or you know?
You should only be putting out info if you know. If you don't know, and it is clear you don't, then you should not speak on a subject.
Magnets will in no way harm the phone unless you are using super powerful magnets, what you use to hold the phone to a dock and things like that won't bother it in the least bit.
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I purchased a wallet case on eBay. I noticed there were areas on the screen that wouldn't work. When I flipped the removable phone case there were 6 magnets...three on each side to hold the phone in the wallet. These magnets are small, but the impact was terrible! I I'm attaching pictures of me using the s pen to find the areas on the screen and the back of the phone case.

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I purchased a wallet case on eBay. I noticed there were areas on the screen that wouldn't work. When I flipped the removable phone case there were 6 magnets...three on each side to hold the phone in the wallet. These magnets are small, but the impact was terrible! I I'm attaching pictures of me using the s pen to find the areas on the screen and the back of the phone case.
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-Sigh-
Like I said. "Magnets will in no way harm the phone"
This isn't harming your phone, it does do as you have seen which is a TEMPORARY issue and has already been discussed, it will cause no permanent harm to the phone.

I don't know about magnetic holsters but magnetic car mounts most definitely YES. I've used many holsters over the years, for all kinds of types of phones. I haven't really thought about it till I saw this post. My buddy has a good magnetic car mount for his s7 edge, but I don't really know anyone at the moment that's using a magnetic holster. Just my opinion though, the last time I used a holster was way back in January and it was actually pretty good. It was a best buy branded platinum, with kickstand holdster and case like a 3 in kind of deal but not magnetic. It fit could on my belt clips for my jeans and suit pants. Good luck

bought the Bracketron brand at best buy, the magnetic part is on the mount, it is a metal plate stick to your phone so no interference from the magnet, not owning a note 5 tho.

I put in some small tin paper cutouts INSIDE my note 5. I took the back cover off, peeled the sticker with the color/logo and spraypainted it a nice black then just glued the tin paper inside of that. Then I took a flat wireless charger and added neodymium magnets to it, modded it to be as small/thin as possible then covered it up with some black thin leather I bought from Michaels. I mounted it up to my car's console and now I just plop the phone onto it and it sticks tight and fast charges, no wires or case. Worked perfectly, but in hot weather the leather would become a bit slippery so it would slip off, but I fixed that with a couple of very small circular double sided gel tape on the bottom just to provide a bit of friction. I've ridden like this for the past 5 or 6 months and it doesn't slip or fall off at all, heavy bumps, hot weather, nothing dislodges it.
The only thing that doesn't work is the spen, and that's only directly over the magnets, but I wouldn't write on it anyway while it was mounted. Otherwise I've had zero difficulties with it. I'll post up pics if anyone is interested, but it's a bit frankenstein looking.