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[POLL] Android Sub-Forum? (Please Sticky)

All of these new Android-based threads can get confusing to keep track of and/or even 'lost' among all the WinMo ROM development threads. I think an Android Sub-forum would be nice.. what about you?
Android Threads:
[ROM/BOUNTY] Rhodium Android Port [$1125/$2435] - Early builds in post #3 [12/24]
Poll: Android Port to HTC Touch Pro 2
[ANDROID2.0.1] Rhodium versions
[Resources]Haret Ported Android 1.6 Donut Version for Rhodium(Milestones)

I just feel if we don't do this there will be many off topic threads started asking what android is or questions about the android port. A new Sub-forum would keep this area clear of that.... Plus you'd have a one stop location to keep up with just android, if you've eventually dropped window mobile and stuck with androidd (hoping that android becomes that stable).

Agreed
Agreed. Please create an Android subforum.

No theres only one thread worth reading (out of about 5), the bounty thread.
If you cant keep up with it in the rom development forum, what is the chance of you finding it in a sub forum clogged with other android forums.
I think you'd be ebtter of with the main thread stickied rather then a new sub forum.

There are now some sections specially for Android
Anyway better to ask Mods on this special thread so they are aware of your request:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276306&page=72

l3it3r said:
All of these new Android-based threads can get confusing to keep track of and/or even 'lost' among all the WinMo ROM development threads. I think an Android Sub-forum would be nice.. what about you?
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All 2 of them? It should be under apps just like games, emulators and addons..

I haven't found it particularly hard to keep track of, but think it would be better if a Rhodium Android sub forum was created alongside Rhodium Rom Development.
I think the Rhodium ROM Development sub forum should really be for custom Windows Mobile ROMS, not questions about Android builds, issues and related.
A separate sub forum for Android on Rhodium would allow many threads relating to various issues of Rhodium Android development to be easily found rather than all Rhodium Android stuff being found somewhere in a big messy thread within the ROM Dev sub forum.
The poll currently shows the majority agreeing this is the way forward, we'll see what the mods think.

I will agree that right now it's not that big of a deal, but when this stuff starts working, there will be a bigger issue with keeping everything straight.

Yes please, will make everything more "neater" .

I vote Yes

I totally agree .........

(for now) i personally don't care for WM ROM modding, so for me to find a few android threads in a sea of WM is more difficult than it could be.
and I'm sure WM-only folks won't mind seeing 'offtopic' threads gone.
it'll be easier to start threads for different topics and not get buried in an avalanche of WM threads.
it cost admins nothing to create Android specific forums for us..

Ok!
Really good idea, I agree.

Which Galaxy Tab

Hi guys,
I plan on getting the original Galaxy Tab but before I do so, I wanted to know if it makes a difference in terms of rootability/ROMs,etc...
I will only use it with wi-fi so it doesn't matter to me which carrier it is with but that said I do not want to get the wi-fi only version because I hear it is not as powerful as the ones sold by the carriers.
I personally prefer the Sprint one but that's just because it has the white back but I seriously want to make the right decision for the right reasons. I actually bought the asus transformer but I just love that feel of the galaxy tab in your hand, the way you can type,etc and for some reason I do not like honeycomb. I guess I am old school and just like the phone version of Android on my tab.
I'd really appreciate some inputs.
Thanks

You really should read the forum rules. this is the dev section. Questions go in the questions and answers section.
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siacotos said:
You really should read the forum rules. this is the dev section. Questions go in the questions and answers section.
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Thanks, I am aware of the forum rules. I've been around long enough and I know this is the DEV section but my question is kinda related to the developability of this device so that's why I thought this might be a more appropriate section.
If necessary, I'd appreciate if the admins can move it to the q&a section.

Thread should be moved, but I sent you a PM for things to consider when you purchase your Tab. My personal preference is GSM. Hit the thanks button if I helped a brother out.
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Dodolom said:
Thanks, I am aware of the forum rules. I've been around long enough and I know this is the DEV section but my question is kinda related to the developability of this device so that's why I thought this might be a more appropriate section.
If necessary, I'd appreciate if the admins can move it to the q&a section.
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Well you are obviously not aware of the rules otherwise you would know that no questions of ANY kind should be posted here, development based or not.
This section is for posting or work and reference ONLY!
Questions go in Q&A
Developments go in Developments
Simple as that
conantroutman said:
Basically, unless your thread is to actually release something or discuss something of a very technical and n00b unfriendly nature, it doesnt belong here!
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Fair enough, let's move it to Q&A then

You could have read and posted in my thread from several days ago with the exact same title.
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GSM
np for rootability. so go for the gsm variant. (more functionality) thats all.
The performance between both are the same.
Almost(region) all hardware is the same (CPU/RAM/NAND is)
AND YES IDD WORN PLACE FOR YOU QUESTION !!!!!

Droid Bionic Source

I know this was posted in the General section, seeing as it pertains to development I Figured that if anyone not familiar with their way around, interested in development, would like to get their needs in one forum without having to switch to another.
http://sourceforge.net/motorola/droidbionic/home/
Released this morning after SGSII was.

It was originally posted here in development but got moved to general...this really does belong in general. Thanks for sharing though.
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dubsx said:
It was originally posted here in development but got moved to general...this really does belong in general. Thanks for sharing though.
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I strongly disagree. Genereal should be for the people who dont know the standard operation of their phone (ie. first time droid owners). This developer section should be for software modifications to the system.
Of course my credibility is probably limited in that the forum moderator doesn't seem to agree either. I started a thread on making the bionic able to use the available recording software by modding it, and it was moved to the themes and apps section, lol.
At any rate, thanks lemonoid. this is very useful developer information. could you post the original thread so we may thank them as well?

Already a thread discussing this same thing
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1307929
PS: This belongs to the General Section, without a doubt.
THREAD CLOSED

[Q] [Poll] Why have 2 development forums, it's just annoying! *Poll Added, Vote!*

I was just wondering why the Razr i has 2 separate developmet forums, as in RAZR i Original Android Development and RAZR i Android Development?
I just find this really confusing and am always clicking the wrong link. I can't help but think this may be slightly hindering development. The Pillama ROM is one of a few threads that have been duplicated which means information is hard to find with it being in two places.
Anyway, not sure where to post it but maybe replying to this thread or clicking thanks in the bottom left will mean that both forums can be combined, if anyone else agrees?

Re: [Q] Why have 2 separate development forums, it's just annoying!
Agreed
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agreed,i think its USELESS!

Re: [Q] Why have 2 separate development forums, it's just annoying!
Agreed, agreed
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Re: [Q] Why have 2 separate development forums, it's just annoying!
One is mods and the other is original work? Or at least I assumed that was the intention. Reality seems to be not enough traffic to warrant both anyway.
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Re: [Q] Why have 2 separate development forums, it's just annoying!
Couldn't agree more

Glad we are on the same wavelength, does anyone have any idea who to ask to change it?
I have sent an email to the webmaster with a link to this thread, I'l let you know what happens.

I've sent this to the webmaster, see what happens.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2214946
Hello, on the above link I have asked members if they like having two forums with a very similar topic (RAZR i Android Development and RAZR i Original Android Development). The answer has been that people agree that it is confusing and possibly slowing down progress of development for this phone.
I am always clicking the wrong link and am unsure of the purpose of the two forums and am wondering if it is in fact a mistake? Current work and development is even beginning to be duplicated (Pillama). It would be great if the two forums could be combined and I write this email in the hope this could be done.
I look forward to hearing from you,
regards, Cuben.

Re: [Q] Why have 2 separate development forums, it's just annoying!
Its confusing i agree.
In the original android its stock android from OEM, just thats why root and unlocking bootloader its there, no changes as how it work.
In android development its for mods and such things (roms, kernels, etc)
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It's very confusing and counter-productive.

Agreed.

Hello, here is the reply from the webmaster:
Hi,
this is not a mistake. Most devices have both of these subforums.
Please read this article for more information: http://www.xda-developers.com/android/introducing-original-development-forums-for-more-devices/
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People seemed to support it originally. I'll ask if it can be removed on our forum - don't hold your breath tho!

Here's my reply to "webmaster"
Hi, thank for the reply. the thread here has a unanimous agreement of general confusion from the multiple forums from junior members, senior members and developers. I / we were wondering if the two forums could be combined?
I have started a poll on the thread, if the community could make this choice this would be great.
Regards, Cuben.

Guys, this is a site-wide forum structure. All fourms have this. We generally won't change our forum structure just to suit one small device.
To save me explaining it fully, allow me to quote from that article:
Original Development is for:
Official releases of highly original and upstream custom ROMs (built from the ground up with significant original development within them
Official releases/development of such original ROMs, perhaps posted by the maintainer or their nominated person.
A significant “first” in development for a device. Significant is subjective, but it is likely something which took considerable time/effort, and is generally accepted by developers to be significant and non-trivial.
Kernels which are built with beneficial changes that are not simply pulled from other kernels already available. Some element of original work is expected.
Tools and utilities with a clear purpose, and which are well-made, and useful to users. They should have an element of originality, either in purpose or through significant improvement in the means of operation.
Significant port of a ROM from one device to another, giving enhanced features or functionality to users of the target device. The port should be beneficial (a port from two virtually identical devices isn’t original development, it’s winzipping, and nobody really benefits from this, as it’s not development)
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The following are most likely not “Original Development”, and should be posted in the “Android Development” subforum:
Your own “unofficial” stock build of your favourite original, source-built (or otherwise) ROM, particularly where an official or maintainer-endorsed thread exists already.
Minor derivatives of other ROMs with little or no changes, or ROMs consisting of “placebo” features as a main constituent or claim.
Renames or rebadges of others’ work – these don’t belong on XDA at all! Refer to rule 12 for more information.
Reposts of existing ROMs with small changes (i.e. kitchen work, such as adding a couple of apps). If you could realistically distribute your changes as an “addon pack” above and beyond a ROM, you should do so. In addition, your “ROM” would not be original development as it would be substantially identical to the original ROM.
A thread created with unrealistic goals that are clearly unachievable by those starting the thread. This is not intended to discourage high aspirations, rather to prevent threads porting Windows Phone 8 to the HTC Wallaby. This is pretty much common sense.
A ROM where a main or significant claim/feature is graphical changes to the user interface (ie. Themed ROM)[
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First and foremost, this structure is here for our developers. Developers are what make XDA Developers possible and this was done as a compromise to allow their work to be better classified.
At the end of the day, it's not too difficult to look in two separate forums, depending on what you are looking for.

the_scotsman said:
Guys, this is a site-wide forum structure. All fourms have this. We generally won't change our forum structure just to suit one small device.
To save me explaining it fully, allow me to quote from that article:
Original Development is for:
The following are most likely not “Original Development”, and should be posted in the “Android Development” subforum:
First and foremost, this structure is here for our developers. Developers are what make XDA Developers possible and this was done as a compromise to allow their work to be better classified.
At the end of the day, it's not too difficult to look in two separate forums, depending on what you are looking for.
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Motorola Defy Forum dont have this structure..

diogo.sena said:
Motorola Defy Forum dont have this structure..
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Neither does HTC Sensation

Phones older than july doesn't have this structure on their forums...
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We can ask to move all threads from one forum to another, and stop using the first..

diogo.sena said:
We can ask to move all threads from one forum to another, and stop using the first..
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Yea, that's what I'm hoping for. I think we'd need quite a few more on the poll. Once it levels out I'll contact the webmaster with our democratic vote!

My reply to the poll is as follows:
Hello, I wondered if it would be worth asking you to look at the forum below when you get chance.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2214946&page=2
There are now 24 people unanimously voting to combine the two forums.
let me know the outcome, I personally think the forum has spoken. Let me know if you require any more to change the forums into one. If the forums are to remain separate then that would be a shame as I see no reason or desire for the separation. I think the general view (certainly for our small development) is that the two separate forums cause confusion and impede development.
Regard, John
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Hopefully we'll have the forums combined. I'm not sure what else would be needed if this unanimous vote isn't enough.

New to SP, looking for possible roms?

Hi all! I just purchased this phone (being shipped in the mail, will have it within a week or two), and I've already been perusing these forums for how to root/unlock bootloader/etc.
As I was looking into these forums, one thing I could not find is the LED strip. Since I do not have the phone physically in front of me yet, I am unsure of how the phone names that feature, so I am not sure what to look for.
Are there any roms that utilize the LED strip at the bottom? Or will I have to stick with stock?
Also, sorry for the double post, I put this in both Android Dev, and Original Android Dev, because I am not sure which this would fall under, mods, feel free to move/delete if it's in the wrong section.

It should be in Q&A...
Use stock 4.3 if you want all the led features, or anything based on it eg: eXistenZ
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thehritzinator said:
Also, sorry for the double post, I put this in both Android Dev, and Original Android Dev, because I am not sure which this would fall under, mods, feel free to move/delete if it's in the wrong section.
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So let me enlighten you as to how things are done here...
First of all, if you create a thread to ask a question, you create it in Q&A
Secondly, you don't duplicate threads just because you're not sure where to create them!
I notice in your other duplicate thread, that you wanted to argue with other members when they advised you that your thread was in the wrong place...
thehritzinator said:
In other forums on XDA, generally q&a about specific dev options goes in these two subsections. I've seen it, and participated in it, in forums such as Nexus 7, LG Optimus L9, and the Galaxy S2 and S3.
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Wrong. The rule is site wide...
If you're in an existing ROM thread in a Development forum, you can ask a question there (if the OP allows) but you do NOT create a new thread in the Development forums to ask a question.
I hope you're clear on this now for the future.