I posted this as a comment on a thread, but then noticed it was in the wrong KFHD section.. Appologies.. Can anyone help with this, the question would most likely be the same.... What GPS Receivers work with the KFHD, whos had success and who's tried and found a certain one didnt work ?
Ive got a BT338 GPS Receiver and trying to get it going on two rooted KFHD 7" both have KFHD xSettings installed, I must have spent about 6 hours reading different threads and trying things.
One on FW 7.4.3 and one on FW 7.4.1- tried them both with de.mobilej and Bluetooth GPS Provider.
The KFHD 7" on FW 7.4.3, this one connects to the Bluetooth device, however no satellites can be seen to have been detected, also Google maps and navigation both report "Searching for GPS" even though Blutooth GPS reports as active!
The KFHD 7" on FW 7.4.1 this one cannot connect to bluetooth device ??
If I launch GPSHunt, on either of them - this does not see any satellites either
All the usual stuff is turned on -
Location based services ON
Allow Mock Locations ON
Tried a few different permutations nothing seems to work for me, the frustrating part is that everything on the FW 7.4.3 seems to work okay standalone but wont just come together I cant understand why it will connect to the bluetooth receiver but not detect satellites, even though the receiver is reporting that satellites are detected (slow blinking green light).
Any help or advice appreciated
Thanks in advance
As the kindle hasn't an internal GPS, you need an app that acts as an intermediary between the two devices, an app that integrates the GPS inside the system, a "GPS Provider". All the providers that I know need to be set "Allow Mock Locations" in DEV settings to work.
From AmazonOS 7.3.1 there is a protection that hangs the program who access "Mock Locations".
But there are a few exceptions to overcome that limitation:
Fist, "Bluetooth GPS Provider"(Michael Chourdakis) is immune to that protection and injects coordinates to the system(works but jumps to a distant point and returns every now and then), is very basic and is hard to connect.A special case is "Bluetooth GPS"(from GG MobLab aka Goo goo) only installable in kinology( another protection that refuses the installation of GPS related apps), that connects perfectly to any dongle but hangs immediately when "Use Mock Location" is set inside the app...
Second, there are map based apps that own their "GPS provider". This allow them to connect to a paired GPS and work, but they don't inject coordinates to the system. I know two, Trekbuddy and Oruxmaps.
All this is theoretic, as you must test with your hardware the clues I give . There are also some utilities that transform an android phone into a GPS dongle, but my experience has been disappointing.
Thanks for the advice gflorezarroyo, I'll give Trekbuddy and Oruxmaps a try :good:
Great news gflorezarroyo, Oruxmaps works you just have go into the settings on the program and enable Bluetooth GPS, then in following screen check the box "Enable GPS from bluetooth device" then turn the GPS sensor to "ON" Thanks again :good:
This works with both the TomTom wireless GPS MkII and the BT338 GPS Receiver
I'm on 7.4.3 and use Bluetooth gps provider. I have a HOLUX M-1200 bluetooth gps. iGO works, navigon works, gmaps work.
Before the 7.4.3 update, nothing worked. After you open Bluetooth gps provider just try a few times to connect to the paired GPS device. It will fail a few times, but you will eventually get it to connect.
Thanks for the info phonexpert_alex, I also got Locus Map Free (Asamm Software, s. r. o.) to work very well on both Kindles.. Using the TomTom MII bluetooth reciever and a downloaded (for offline use) vector map of GB.. Its fully working and down to street level with the maps, postcode search etc etc, a really nice piece of mapping software, I will use it for a couple of weeks checking for stability and then buy the pro version (£5.99), It will help support the developers even if I dont use any of the added functionality, thanks again :good:
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help i have a xda 11i which has Tom tom fitted onto it but it will not find the gps signal. It is a new bluetooth device but how can i test to find out what the problem is ??
I am not too knowledgable in computers so keep explination simple please
Make sure that you have paired the Bluetooth device with the XDAIIi. That is in connections. Make sure you also have bluetooth enabled too.
Then search on the internet for a program called gpsinfo.exe This will test your device is able to receive GPS signals and allow you to test out the com port that the device is using to receive (normally 5 or 6)
Then you can close down GPSInfo.
Once you have got a sucessful pairing - then launch Tom Tom, go to preferences and find GPS module in there. Select Other Bluetooth device and the com port that you received on.
You should see the blue and yellow circle start rotating once it starts to talk to the device and in time you will see the blue bars on the bottom left start to increase as it finds satellites and locks on.
You will now be able to disable bluetooth (once you are out of TomTom) as Tom Tom enables it and disables it as it runs.
I would also look at v5.21 for Tom Tom as it seems to be the most stable. My earlier ones would just stop working and crash to desktop
Those are excellent instructions.
When pairing your Bluetooth GPS receiver with your phone, make SURE that you follow the instructions for pairing to the letter, otherwise you may find that it just won't work. If you had instructions which came with the device, get them out and go through each step carefully (the instructions for my Qstarz GPS receiver were complex to say the least, but once it's sorted out it works great).
Guys / Gals
I have just picked up a WIRED GPS reciever and want to get it to talk to my XDA11i.
I also have tom tom that I want to use .
Tom tom expects to see the GPS unit on Com 1 ?
How do I set up the XDA to recieve GPS on com 1 (Tried all sorts of things but no joy , didnt believe I was an amateur but seesm I am . I haVE TURNED off " recieve all beams " but still no joy .
Any help greatfully appreciated.
Astro
I do use Pugs rom but have read that it is still possible to link to a wired device ? if not I will have to splash out on a Tom Tom Bluetooth Gps ? or will others do ?
Firstly, I am assuming you have got some way for the wired GPS to connect to your PDA (via car cradle or similar cable).
Ensure GPS unit is switched on & running, and connected to the PDA.
Start TomTom, which will ofc bleat "No GPS device!"
Tap screen, Change Preferences, tap next twice to take you to prefs screen 3, tap Show GPS status, then tap Configure
Tap the left/right arrows until Other NMEA GPS receiver is showing, then tap Select
Accept the default BAUD rate of 4800 for now, and tap Done
Now, you will be presented with a list of the available ports that TomTom can 'see'
You will probably have several COM ports available. (mine showed up with COM2, 4, 5, 6, and 9 available for example, but ymmv)
Checking that your GPS unit is still on, select the first suitable COM port in the list, whatever it is. This will take you to the GPS status screen.
IF you are lucky enough to have selected the correct port for your wired GPS unit first time, you will now see the yellow/black wheel at the top right rotating, which indicates it is receiving data from the GPS unit. (a non-rotating wheel means TomTom can't 'see' any GPS data coming in)
If the wheel is NOT rotating, don't panic, but once again tap the Configure button and repeat the steps, this time slecting the next COM port in it's list.
Repeat this process, moving down through the available list of COM ports until you hit the one where the wheel is rotating: this indicates that TomTom has successfully 'found' the GPS unit and is receiving data from it.
Assuming you DO get a rotating wheel, click done on the GPS Status screen and you will go back to TomTom's main screen, hopefully now with the correct location showing!
Hope this is of some help.
Joe Pinball
P.S. if you have had no joy with this, or dont have/cant find a cable to connect the GPS unit to the PDA/cradle, you may well find a Bluetooth GPS unit is a better way to go (try and get one with the SIRFSTar III chipset, as it's way better performance in marginal conditions): I navigate and leave my BT GPS (GlobalSat BT338) in the car glovebox and STILL get a good signal! - Joe
Wired GPS connection to XDA11i
Joe
Thanks for the info I will try that one out tonight .
To try out the system I have picked up an early Rikaline wired unit which connects directly to the XDA11i socket as well as the car lighter socket to rum them both.
My question was did i need to do any thing to the XDA to tell it to accept the plugged in device ? as you would if you set up a bluetooth system ?
Does the XDA11i automatically SEE the device you have plugged in ?
Duncan
The XDAIIi's socket contains both a USB interface (for the cradle) audio (for in-car sounds/wired handsfree) and a serial port, so as far as I know, once the GPS unit is plugged in (and assuming it outputs the NMEA standard for GPS data, which they all seem to do) all you would need to do would be to configure TomTom with the unit plugged in & working.
Once set up correctly, and you have a decent positional fix, quit TomTom in the normal way, leave it a minute or 2 and then re-start TomTom to check it saved the settings correctly.
If the settings were stored correctly, TomTom should start (can take a while with version 5.XXX, now down to a couple of seconds with V6.XXX) and then a short while later TomTom will announce on-screen "No GPS Device!"
(note: I have a bluteooth GPS and find although TomTom is capable of switching on BT for me, it will never 'see' the GPS this way: I have to switch BT on first, THEN run TT for it to see the GPS. It is entirely possible, that with a wired serial connection, TomTom may well see the GPS data immediately and NOT flash up the "no GPS device!" message, in which case it's win-win for you!)
Be patient at this point and it should soon 'see' the GPS data coming in and get a position up on the map.
Hope this helps
Joe Pinball, now with a fixed screen! yay!
Still not working !! Doooh
Joe
After a frustrating day with the wired device I gave in and picked up a Bluenext BN-806F bluetooth gps unit .
But I am still having problems. I am not sure that the uinit is not faulty as even when paired the status shows NO data going either way . PS when I go to Blue tooth manager and then active connections there is only an outgoing connection set ???
Any chance yo can run through the set up for blue tooth gps and tom tom for me ( I have a copy of tt5.21).
Do I need to set any thing ref the Com ports / beam / baud rate ?
How do I set the time that the XDA11i holds an active connection before it times out ( if no data recieved ) as the XDA breaks the connection after a while of no activity ?
Best regards
Astro1
I connect my alpine to the gps receiver, but after few minutes, the conenction drops. I have not figured any problems with my bt hansfree.
Can anyone help??
turn off bluetooth
dropped connection
I have a similar problem . Alpine and BN806F , It pairs , wont talk then drops out ? I wonder if there is a time out after no activity ?
As my post says I am having a problem getting tom tom to see my gps reciever , do you have the some problem ? what am I doing wrong ?
Astro1
I downloaded a bt patch but the problem remains. I wonder whether it's a software or hardware problem..
Yes, I can't make my navigation program to see the gps receiver and after a while it gets disconnected...
To the OP - you said you cant get your navigation software 'see' the GPS - this is the root of the problem.
If your BT GPS unit doesnt see any requests to send data to the PDA, it will auto-switch off after a set period of time.
Once you can successfully configure your nav software to receive the GPS data, your bluetooth GPS unit will remain powered on.
You should have a software CD that came with the GPS unit (if not there are a number of freely downloadable GPS utilites for PDAs, some of which can scan for the unit to find it)- there's usually some very low-quality GPS checking utility that displays what satellites the unit can see, signal strength and so on: try using these programs to see if you can connect to your GPS, and if the unit than keeps the BT link open.
Maybe finding out which COM port the GPS unit appears on, will allow you to configure your nav software correctly to see the GPS.
Joe Pinball
I managed to connect it succesfully some times. Usually, it connects via bluetooth but it drops until I load navigator ( my navigation program). When I close the program, the bluetooth is off. I tried to search windows for power save settings but I didn't find something that would help.
GPS problems
Joe
Thanks for your advice I am still haviong big problems .
I have managed to get Tom tom to recognise a wired reciever ( but only once , and then when the cigarete lighter plug moved the unit powered down all was lost.
Do you know of any utilities that will show what is connected to what port as I believe this is the real problem . Aparently tom tom has a bad history of hijacking ports ?
It would be good to see what was actually going on .
Astro1
Gtab w/vegan 5 Holux GPS slim 236 external GPS... sounds promising!
pairs but not connected... Googling shows this to be a common issue with no apparent solution. One post stated that android can only pair with headphones..really???
appbrain finds several programs for connecting Bluetooth GPS.click the market to install one... not found in market. Strange that my droidx finds it fine and installs it. Do the market fix again just to be sure..no deal. I don't understand the paired but not connected thing and I REALLY don't understand how appbrzin finds things that then can't be downloaded and installed. Thoughts???
To run Bluetooth GPS you need BlueGPS program.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/bluegps4droid/files/
Same thing I have on my tab "paired but not connected", which does not prevent GPS receiver to work with the tab.
Make sure you check "Allow mock locations" in settings.
As of the market... There is a fix somewhere to get the full access and see GPS apps..
Since I installed new ROM yesterday, I didn't get a chance to read what has to be done.... But, I'll try to find it.
Update
More research finally revealed something. BlueGPS4droid at sourceforge not the market. So, the external gps was "paired but not connected" until there was an application (bluegps) to "connect" to. Once that was installed I turned on the bluetooth and it immediately saw the hollux remote gps receiver. Tested it with Maps and it worked beautifully. So theories:
1. If there isn't an app waiting to use the bluetooth device it will pair but not connect until something asks for it.
2. The market won't show you apps that "can't run" on your device. (this needs more testing but I imagine phone apps won't be available to the gtab either).
Hope this helps someone.
OK, here is the problem.....
I got CoPilot GPS installed on my Gtab. Also BlueGPS app to connect to TomTom MkII. When I try to use copilot, it says: NO GPS FOUND.
A little history: When I bought GPS receiver I was running gADAM 1.1.0, installed BlueGPS and paired the device. It worked fine with Google navigation....
Yesterday finally installed CoPilot Live 8, turned on bluetooth, paired with the receiver, found my device in BlueGPS and turned it on. CoPilot recognized GPS right away and started working (oh, mock location is checked).
It was just one time deal.
Now, no matter what I do I cannot make it work again...
Running TnTL 4.2.5
Any help appreciated.
Update:
Thought crossed my mind that GPS receiver not working.....
D/loaded "GPS for Google Earth" paired with my laptop and got position right away. So, one question is answered: It's not the receiver.
Is your bluetooth on? Check in settings
You need to start Blue GPS each time you use it.
Just a quick update......
Traced all steps I took after installing the CoPilot and successfully connecting GPS.
I d/loaded and installed a widget to turn on/off Bluetooth.
That program probably conflicted with some resources and prevented Bluetooth GPS to work with CoPilot.
After un-installing the widget nothing changed, had to reformat everything and re-install the ROM.
Took me about 30 min, but now I'm enjoying my G-tab as GPS!!!