Hi guys,
I noticed something rather strange today. My One looses its wifi signal when I hold it (upper side) with my right hand. I've made a video to demonstrate how quickly it looses the signal and regains it (when I remove my hand).
The thing is, it doesn't always loose the signal all the way. I guess it depends on the signal strength of the room I am in. If I'm next to the router the signal doesn't drop at all, but as I move away to the next room, you can see what happens.
Here's the link to the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbprCTr4JQg&feature=youtube_gdata_player
And I was starting to believe that my One is perfect.
Just watched your video and tried it myself and yes it does loose the WiFi signal.
Suppose it's the WiFi antenna that obstructs the signal.. guess that's the way it is
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raghav2511 said:
And I was starting to believe that my One is perfect.
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the antennae are part of the back, so there is always a deathgrip, don't hold it like that it seems very unnatural anyways
scotcruz said:
Just watched your video and tried it myself and yes it does loose the WiFi signal.
Suppose it's the WiFi antenna that obstructs the signal.. guess that's the way it is
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I've just tried this and had no loss of signal.
I guess all phones are like this though, the antennas are in the back somewhere and depending on the phone and where you hold it your hand is going to block the signals to some extent.
godutch said:
the antennae are part of the back, so there is always a deathgrip, don't hold it like that it seems very unnatural anyways
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I know directly gripping the antenna will affect the signal strength. But I'm gripping the sides not the back; there's not much contact with the plastic strip at the back.
And sometime when holding the phone in landscape you tend to cover those areas with your hand.. Till now, this hasn't been a 'problem' for me.
Ya it's definitely there, but it's pretty good. I had to cup both hands around it to get the signal strength really low. With one hand, I could only make it lose one bar.
I guess don't cup your hand around the antenna if you are in a place with less than ideal WiFi signal.
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Well, are you going to hold your phone like that everyday?
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Well, are you going to hold your phone like that everyday?
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No, but that wasn't the point of this post. It's more of a FYI than bashin' HTC over its death grip issue.
ataft said:
Ya it's definitely there, but it's pretty good. I had to cup both hands around it to get the signal strength really low. With one hand, I could only make it lose one bar.
I guess don't cup your hand around the antenna if you are in a place with less than ideal WiFi signal.
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Ya, but the strange this was how quickly the signal dropped for me. It's not a deal breaker anyway, it's a good thing the wifi antenna isn't at the bottom!
I've just tried it and can't seem to get my signal to drop like that. It doesn't lose anything.
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Cicinho said:
I've just tried it and can't seem to get my signal to drop like that. It doesn't lose anything.
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what about with a case? In using a basic tpu case. Androidify. It fits very tight around the phone and notice the sensitivity to WiFi and signal. I didn't notice this until I took off the case. My phone was flying. Once I put it back there was some lag time for stuff to load
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Something for people to try:
See if you can keep the phone from sliding holding onto only the glass. So put your thumb on one side and your fingers on the other and pinch then hold the phone up vertical. Squeeze as hard as you want (but dont break the LCD), I bet nobody can keep the phone from slowly sliding down no matter how hard they try. I recommend holding it near the Nexus logo so you can see it move since it will be sliding very very slowly. Try both hands.
Ive noticed that this thing simply sticks to NOTHING, this Gorilla Glass 2 surface is very slippery and I wish they would have gone for something more grippy on the back since my phone has slid off things that are virtually flat a few times already. It seems like any amount of gravity will cause this thing to slide.
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Something for people to try:
See if you can keep the phone from sliding holding onto only the glass. So put your thumb on one side and your fingers on the other and pinch then hold the phone up vertical. Squeeze as hard as you want (but dont break the LCD), I bet nobody can keep the phone from slowly sliding down no matter how hard they try. I recommend holding it near the Nexus logo so you can see it move since it will be sliding very very slowly. Try both hands.
Ive noticed that this thing simply sticks to NOTHING, this Gorilla Glass 2 surface is very slippery and I wish they would have gone for something more grippy on the back since my phone has slid off things that are virtually flat a few times already.
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Yeah, the iPhone 4 and 4S had this problem too. If you went naked they would slide off anything and everything, even things you thought were flat. Hopefully invisible shield comes out with a back protector. I hate Invisible shields on the front because they're slightly tacky, but for the back it would be great at protecting and preventing the phone from sliding.
Isn't the glass suppose to be slippery? You want your finger to glide across it easily while using the phone. Not sure what the issue is, who grips their phone this way? If you do, stop it.
Not having any issue gripping the phone this way. On the other hand I have noticed the phone being susceptible to "death grip".
Yeah I've found on numerous occasions where I would set my phone down on what I THOUGHT was a flat surface, walk away and come back only to find my phone on the floor. This thing I'd crazy slippery. I'm picking up a bumper from someone off Craigslist tonight for a good deal and am hoping it will help at least a little.
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I can just say it again .. Bumper FTW!
But actually, these issues are crazy ... slippery phone .. what the heck.
Ravynmagi said:
Isn't the glass suppose to be slippery? You want your finger to glide across it easily while using the phone. Not sure what the issue is, who grips their phone this way? If you do, stop it.
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threeclaws said:
Not having any issue gripping the phone this way. On the other hand I have noticed the phone being susceptible to "death grip".
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"You're just holding it the wrong way!"
What's the death grip on the N4?
From iFixit's tear down they show contact points of the antennas in the upper third of the back plate. But they never took the back apart to see where the leads go. Is the death grip the top half of the phone? If so that's good, because with the size of the N4 people will most likely grip it along the bottom half and along the bottom edge.
I called it an issue, but I actually like it slippery in the back.
I totally love the feel of the phone. I just thought it was crazy how it would just slide off of seemingly flat surfaces. I had my closed laptop sitting on the dining room table, phone on top of the laptop. Walked away for a few minutes and came back to find the phone on the floor. Instantly blamed my wife. Lol.
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I did your test and my phone didn't move a cm...
I like it slippery in the back also
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Use a soap for oily skin.
trent25 said:
"You're just holding it the wrong way!"
What's the death grip on the N4?
From iFixit's tear down they show contact points of the antennas in the upper third of the back plate. But they never took the back apart to see where the leads go. Is the death grip the top half of the phone? If so that's good, because with the size of the N4 people will most likely grip it along the bottom half and along the bottom edge.
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I when I hold the phone 2 handed (eg when surfing the web) the bars drop dramatically and in places with weak signal just holding the phone (bottom half one handed like for a phone call) I'll completely lose signal. Actually I'd say in general, compared to my HD2 and Sensation the signal strength is poor on this phone.
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I when I hold the phone 2 handed (eg when surfing the web) the bars drop dramatically and in places with weak signal just holding the phone (bottom half one handed like for a phone call) I'll completely lose signal. Actually I'd say in general, compared to my HD2 and Sensation the signal strength is poor on this phone.
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x2. I am waiting it out to do more testing and see what happens with updates but I have also noticed the dramatic signal loss depending on how you hold the phone. At my house I consistantly get 2-3 bars on my Lumia 920 (and did on my S3, Note, etc). With the N4 I get 3 occasionally, but most of the tiem if I am holding the phone its at 1 bar, and if I hold it in certain ways loses signal all together.
My phone dropped too. Stupid slipper back
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sieudaochich said:
My phone dropped too. Stupid slipper back
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any damages?
idividebyzero said:
Try both hands.
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So we don't build muscle imbalance in our fingers?
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Nexus 4 said:
any damages?
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No visible damage at all, dropped twice. Once from chair height ~3 feet to wooden floor and once from ~1 foot.
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evostevo1 said:
I like it slippery in the back also
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I bet you do you randy sonofagun!
kinky!
mELIANTE said:
Use a soap for oily skin.
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i lawled. out of thanks, but yeah, thanks for the laff.
gtg465x said:
Yeah, the iPhone 4 and 4S had this problem too. If you went naked they would slide off anything and everything, even things you thought were flat. Hopefully invisible shield comes out with a back protector. I hate Invisible shields on the front because they're slightly tacky, but for the back it would be great at protecting and preventing the phone from sliding.
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It's already out
It's probably too early to answer this question, so maybe this thread will be a placeholder. But does anyone have any experience using the One where reception is weak? Are the tiny plastic windows enough for the antenna to work? how is signal strength in general?
Thanks!
People who have been to HTC events have tested this. I will try when I go to the event in newcastle on thursday. They said they couldnt get it to drop a bar.
Puzzlegal said:
It's probably too early to answer this question, so maybe this thread will be a placeholder. But does anyone have any experience using the One where reception is weak? Are the tiny plastic windows enough for the antenna to work? how is signal strength in general?
Thanks!
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It does not use the tiny plastic antennas, it uses the top and bottom pieces of metal.
the radio/atenna quality is excellent, tried it with calls/gps/wifi. locks fast with wifi and gps and calls and loud and clear
Hi
My phone reach around 115 F to 120 F during playing graphics heavy game....
Do Any one having problems with excessive heat during game play on HTC one ...
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samecin said:
Hi
My phone reach around 115 F to 120 F during playing graphics heavy game....
Do Any one having problems with excessive heat during game play on HTC one ...
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When was the last time you restarted the phone?
Let the phone cool down, then restart and then play the game again to see if heats up again..
Please let us know
Hi.
Are there other problems like death grip. Just try it on your phone.
One or One X+?
He using one x.
And yes, heating is normal under heavy load from big 3D game (even your laptop, and pc get hotter then normal during games)
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yes its normal for the X+
but you are in the wrong forum my friend
mods can we close this?
sandeep.mjs said:
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Are there other problems like death grip. Just try it on your phone.
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Yes I can confirm there is a Death grip for Wifi, when you hold the phone tightly on top side it lose wifi signal upto to 30%
you can download free app "Network signal info" turn it on and turn on wifi and tightly hold the phone from top side so you can cover from sim try to volume button sude tightly, but generally very less people hold it like that way
starting to loose my mind, here
all freaking phones have death grip if you cover them
hamdir said:
starting to loose my mind, here
all freaking phones have death grip if you cover them
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Yup. I don't see what the big deal. Just don't squeeze your phone the same as you do when you choke the chicken and everything will good.
This thread needs to be locked, and this subforum needs serious cleaning and moderation. Too many immature and childish threads, posts and topics.
hamdir said:
all freaking phones have death grip if you cover them
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:good:
I found a heat issue with it but found a quick solution.
Don't let it charge under a pillow. It near burned my hand in the morning
hamdir said:
all freaking phones have death grip if you cover them
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Not to push you over the edge ( ) but 30%'s a pretty big drop. What it means depends on other things besides the device that's actually being tested like the specific router, channel interference, distance, and signal strength/continuity. So the report of one 30% drop, which could end up being above or below average, does not a crisis make. There are even Wi-Fi complaints on the forums of devices that are known for their stellar Wi-Fi performance. But "death gripping" a N2 drops the signal about 10%. HTC's choice of aluminum and the One's antenna placement and configuration were bold choices. Don't kill the messengers if it turns out that there are consequences. And with so few in the wild it's way too early to jump to any conclusions. Forgive the crappy video quality, it's from a tablet.
Hey I ask question because I am planning to buy HTC One ...
And yes I am using HTC One X+ right now and I am having lot of problem with heat ... And I am a gaming person ... &
I notice with Samsung run little cool than HTC during game palying ...
So I want to know whats a deal with HTC One...
OK one more time for those who has a HTC One ...
Can you please tell me do your phone back got hot during game play...
If yes can you please tell me temperature after playing game for just 15 min to 20 min....
Thank you
onlinejobwork said:
Yes I can confirm there is a Death grip for Wifi, when you hold the phone tightly on top side it lose wifi signal upto to 30%
you can download free app "Network signal info" turn it on and turn on wifi and tightly hold the phone from top side so you can cover from sim try to volume button sude tightly, but generally very less people hold it like that way
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hamdir said:
starting to loose my mind, here
all freaking phones have death grip if you cover them
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When phone is held horizontally then to watch video, would that be considered as death grip?
this is what i want to know. if i hold phone horizontally to watch video over youtube then would sugnal drop?
onlinejobwork said:
Yes I can confirm there is a Death grip for Wifi, when you hold the phone tightly on top side it lose wifi signal upto to 30%
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30% is not what could be close to death, is it?
I've yet to come across a phone that is not susceptible to RF attenuation when being handled.
The mobile network antennas are always at the bottom of the phone, and are always attenuated to an extent by your own hands when holding the phone. Same goes for the wifi/bt and gps antennas at the top of the phone.
Just how it is, and how it'll always be until such a point we humans stop blocking signals around the frequency ranges currently in use!
Hi, this is something I generally like to ask with new phones. Does your Nexus 5 have any death grip issues? I personally tried gripping it every way I could and there was no signal loss whatsoever
With my HTC One if I would put the bottom left into my palm it would drop signal, and I know the iPhone 4 would lose signal if you put the bottom left into your palm as well.
Just want to know what y'all have experienced!
No NeXus 5 is better than every other phone
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No grip issue here other than needing a case to feel comfortable with it.
I'm thoroughly impressed with the N5 reception on tmo, death grip and all!
NX5
According to some of my buds over at S4GRU, the Nexus 5 is a champ in terms of Radio Frequency performance on Sprint, so I'd assume it's a monster on all of the other carriers.
EDIT: I believe that the Nexus 5's RF success comes from it's envelop tracking, which enables it to use more power to grab signals at a lower power consumption.
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I'm thoroughly impressed with the N5 reception on tmo, death grip and all!
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My thoughts exactly! I was even trying to make it lose signal but it wouldn't!
No such issues noted on 700mhz, 1700mhz or WiFi bands. Better WiFi than just about any phone I've owned, too..
So two people voted no but didn't care to explain their problem?
wasnt aware of all this. hmm. maybe ill buy some hulk hands and grip it til it snaps in two then check my signal.
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Hi, this is something I generally like to ask with new phones. Does your Nexus 5 have any death grip issues? I personally tried gripping it every way I could and there was no signal loss whatsoever
With my HTC One if I would put the bottom left into my palm it would drop signal, and I know the iPhone 4 would lose signal if you put the bottom left into your palm as well.
Just want to know what y'all have experienced!
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Your HTC One has an aluminum build, the iPhone you referenced has a metal band around the sides. This doesn't play nice with RF so special antennas and designs are used to make it work. They usually place them around the outside rather than the traditional place inside the enclosure (this is what those little black lines along the outside of the iPhone 4-4S are), but you run into issues like the "death grip" for example. It's still cool technology though.
The Nexus 5 is all plastic, so there is no metal build to interfere with signal like on the aforementioned handsets.
No issues.
does anybody have the s6 edge Luphie case? and willing to do a review on it
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I have the Luphie aluminum bumper with glass back. It looks and feels amazing but there is some signal loss. Sometimes in my house it will drop to 3g when I normally get about 2 bars of 4g.
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does anybody have the s6 edge Luphie case? and willing to do a review on it
would like to know how it is
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So its not s significant loss of signsl just a little
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Yeah it's just a small loss. GPS works fine so far
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Yeah it's just a small loss. GPS works fine so far
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thanks just ordered the black and silver one
Uhh you talking about just the bumper? or the one with the bumper + the glass back?
can we see a link to the case?
Its the bumper with glass back
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=251938919020&alt=web
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look at this link
fotis12 said:
look at this link
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Ya i got mine off aliexpress
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does anybody have the s6 edge Luphie case? and willing to do a review on it
would like to know how it is
and if it does anything to signal or gps or anything
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I bought the White/Gold version and got it today. I have about 10 cases and I would say this is the best looking one. My signal does seem to decrease but my LTE speeds are the same with or without it. GPS also connects in seconds and the heart sensor works even with the glass. The only thing I see wrong with it is that there's no cut out for the IR sensor so if you use the phone as your remote it won't work with the case on. I took some pics but not the best quality as I only had my tablet at my disposal.
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I bought the White/Gold version and got it today. I have about 10 cases and I would say this is the best looking one. My signal does seem to decrease but my LTE speeds are the same with or without it. GPS also connects in seconds and the heart sensor works even with the glass. The only thing I see wrong with it is that there's no cut out for the IR sensor so if you use the phone as your remote it won't work with the case on. I took some pics but not the best quality as I only had my tablet at my disposal.
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thanks for the info cant wait,will post review on my youtube when i get it
i got the silver and black
sucks no ir blaster cutout
I take back what i said about minimal signal loss. I took it to work today with the case on and could not get 4G signal at all. I normally get 2-3 bars of 4G but it would never switch over from 3G. I wished there wasn't such a loss in cell signal cause this case is beautiful but I'm going to have to return it.
Anybody know where I can find a good plastic bumper? There are a plethora of aluminum bumpers but I can't even find a cheap plastic one.
Lol yea anything that has a metal bumper degrades the signal. I also bought this case. With it on, I would no longer get LTE indoors, it would drop to 4g. Also, it decreases my signal by 2-3 bars, no matter where I am.
Furthermore, It has bad tolerances. I had to put pieces of paper to fill up some of the gaps and along the buttons, otherwise it would rattle. It does look decent, except for the badly written text on the back. It's unnecessary and ruins the minimalistic look.
I would skip this.
Oliv3 said:
Lol yea anything that has a metal bumper degrades the signal. I also bought this case. With it on, I would no longer get LTE indoors, it would drop to 4g. Also, it decreases my signal by 2-3 bars, no matter where I am.
Furthermore, It has bad tolerances. I had to put pieces of paper to fill up some of the gaps and along the buttons, otherwise it would rattle. It does look decent, except for the badly written text on the back. It's unnecessary and ruins the minimalistic look.
I would skip this.
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Ditto is a pretty nice looking case but it definitely causes a big drop in signal. I took it to work and I was barely getting edge at a place where I always have LTE.
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Ditto is a pretty nice looking case but it definitely causes a big drop in signal. I took it to work and I was barely getting edge at a place where I always have LTE.
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doesnt seem to be messing with my signal at home
finds gps right away, has little slits/holes where the antennas are
My case arrived yesterday, has little holes as well, no messing with signal . only IR are not working and maybe little drop at wifi signal, nothing significant, looks really nice, i am very happy with it.
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My case arrived yesterday, has little holes as well, no messing with signal . only IR are not working and maybe little drop at wifi signal, nothing significant, looks really nice, i am very happy with it.
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i havent took mine out he house yet because i do construction and during the week i use a more rugged case but on weekends like now ill take it out and test it
and hey does the back of your case lock? sometimes mine doesnt i have to like force it a certain way
Luphie bumper case mostly are aluminum frame,impressive on their design and workmanship, if you're more attend to metallic and there is no more words on them if you don't care the signal loss,for luphie are focus on frame and which will reduce signal strength more or less as we know,I tried 2pcs one for S4 and one for S6 Edge,both of the same situation so comes a conclusion like this for reference.
More details you may check their online store:
http://goo.gl/sL8Abi
Its pretty good, looks cool but I bought a black one and U can tell the difference between the black glass on the back and the black sapphire on the res of the phone.
I'm thinking about a mate black skin to make the phone match the case.
Also the gold bumper is not bright gold, more like mate gold, but it really suits the phone. Plus it comes in a very nice box ahahah
Good luck.