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OUYA ROM and other question

Hi guys, I was wondering if the ROM of OUYA is already available online to be changed, and if it is not it can be moved by connecting the console to the PC? Or the console's USB port is not suitable for this purpose? And having already Ouya the ROOT else is already installed the Recovery? or you have install? And how can you get into Recovery? Ok maybe it's still a bit too early for these questions since it is still in the hands only of those who have contributed to the project on Kickstarter but if anyone was informed I'd like

I"m assuming you'll be able to use ADB and what not. Ouya said, the standard Ouya can be used to develop games, so it would seem reasonable all Ouya's can be connected to a PC, and I assume the USB port will be sufficient.
As for the rest, I think it's just a tad early to know with certainty. The only well know people to have the any units are those early dev kits, and some of hardware reviewers. I haven't heard or read, nor do I believe they would release the Ouya ROM. And based on what Ouya has stated, it looks like we're getting late beta firmware/rom since they want to add more features, improve performace, and other items based on developer and early backer feedback before the June launch in retailers.

I really would like to see ROM customization for the OUYA as I feel duped by the fact that it won't run my pre-purchased play store apps and games. There's got to be a way to have both. I want this thing to replace my PS3 as my entertainment center but I must have Google music working to do so. I also want to play my purchased games like NFS.
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It'll run em, you just have to sideload it.

Ouya said the condole would be rootable and they would be including the instructions on how to do it. Now we just have to wait until someone receives theirs and see if this is true or not?

The OUYA is simple to root. I think any generic ICS root method would work. Google Glasses was rooted by Jay Freeman just by a little tweaking, and a generic. ICS root method. I'm picking up on and plan to help as much as possible.
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AgentCherryColla said:
The OUYA is simple to root. I think any generic ICS root method would work. Google Glasses was rooted by Jay Freeman just by a little tweaking, and a generic. ICS root method. I'm picking up on and plan to help as much as possible.
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It was rooted quickly because there wasn't any locks on it. One of the developers at Google even said it's hardly considered rooting because there were no barriers to break through.

Mine is sitting at home waiting for me right now, so I'll start looking into building a Custom ROM for it this weekend probably.

sonofskywalker3 said:
Mine is sitting at home waiting for me right now, so I'll start looking into building a Custom ROM for it this weekend probably.
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Just be careful, because of the lack of entering fastboot/recovery during bootup, you can easily soft brick it. I've already heard of someone messing with the system and bricking. Plus you can't really build much of an custom rom without kernel source, I wouldn't seeing an better stock but won't change much for right now.

Paulenski said:
Just be careful, because of the lack of entering fastboot/recovery during bootup, you can easily soft brick it. I've already heard of someone messing with the system and bricking. Plus you can't really build much of an custom rom without kernel source, I wouldn't seeing an better stock but won't change much for right now.
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Thanks for the concern Paulenski, not jumping into anything without looking ahead. I'm not talking about Cyanogenmod or anything as far as custom ROM's go. I just want to put together a flashable zip that will install working gapps, su, busybox, an alternate launcher, etc. A "start here" package. Not that it could be flashed yet, but I've contacted Koush and Teamwin about porting a custom recovery.

sonofskywalker3 said:
Thanks for the concern Paulenski, not jumping into anything without looking ahead. I'm not talking about Cyanogenmod or anything as far as custom ROM's go. I just want to put together a flashable zip that will install working gapps, su, busybox, an alternate launcher, etc. A "start here" package. Not that it could be flashed yet, but I've contacted Koush and Teamwin about porting a custom recovery.
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You get this working and there will definitly be a donation on the way.

lartomar2002 said:
You get this working and there will definitly be a donation on the way.
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I appreciate that. I'm really just trying to get this working the best I can for myself, and I'll share whatever I can accomplish.

sonofskywalker3 said:
It'll run em, you just have to sideload it.
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Not if it's a game that checks in with the Play Store before downloading additional data (like many racing games do).

elmerohueso said:
Not if it's a game that checks in with the Play Store before downloading additional data (like many racing games do).
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Fair enough. Ammend that statement to say "It'll run most sideloaded apps, provided no additonal downloads/framework is required." I hadn't actually started playing with the console when I said that.
However, if you have an android phone you might be able to install it on there, download the extra data, and copy those files/folders over to the ouya. Might be worth a shot.

sonofskywalker3 said:
Fair enough. Ammend that statement to say "It'll run most sideloaded apps, provided no additonal downloads/framework is required." I hadn't actually started playing with the console when I said that.
However, if you have an android phone you might be able to install it on there, download the extra data, and copy those files/folders over to the ouya. Might be worth a shot.
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MIGHT work...maybe. It would be easier if someone could get gapps running. That's pretty high up there on my OUYA wishlist
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Oh I am so excited for some good customs ROM's. I am also not looking for CWM for a main ROM in general, but a amazingly beefed up Ouya layout, as its not as well as it should be visually and organized. And I know MANY will be using XBMC as a media center, I feel that should be a big part of the customs ROMs. I am loving mine so much already running the android version of XBMC. So excited for the future!!

sonofskywalker3 said:
Fair enough. Ammend that statement to say "It'll run most sideloaded apps, provided no additonal downloads/framework is required." I hadn't actually started playing with the console when I said that.
However, if you have an android phone you might be able to install it on there, download the extra data, and copy those files/folders over to the ouya. Might be worth a shot.
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Works for a handful of games, GTA3 is the biggest. Does not work for most I've tried, including gameloft games and Carmageddon.
Unfortunately I did not keep notes when I began trying sideloading apps. I do know that some backups from Android Tuner worked when those from Titanium Backup did not. I also used ES file explorer for some backups as well.
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TadeoNYC said:
Works for a handful of games, GTA3 is the biggest. Does not work for most I've tried, including gameloft games and Carmageddon.
Unfortunately I did not keep notes when I began trying sideloading apps. I do know that some backups from Android Tuner worked when those from Titanium Backup did not. I also used ES file explorer for some backups as well.
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For the games that did not work did you try a different BT gamepad

lartomar2002 said:
For the games that did not work did you try a different BT gamepad
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By did not work. I mean that they won't run. Some actually return an error relating to additional data files.
I don't have another BT game pad and my Logitech wingman USB does not work at all.
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soft brick achived!!
yeah i kinda need the rom as my console froze (even power button didnt work) pulled the power and now its just stuck on the "(U)" boot logo, ive not made any mods to it, and only sideloaded 1 app, not too happy

[WIP] ouya on other hardware

This will be for research/documentation for getting ouya software running on other hardware. Basically a side project, started with a basic titanium backup and restore onto another device, htc one x. It has similar issues as trying to get the ouya store on CM10. didnt do any catlog or anything yet just messing around at this point...
http://imgur.com/sFtkZwz

I'm not trying to deter you or anything but I would hold out on getting real serious because I can see them changing how they work the store, updates and the launcher. Right now you can't get updates or use the ouya store unless you use the stock launcher. This is gonna cost them money and they can't outright stop us from using a different store, launcher, or cm10. So changing how those things to work solo dolo would be in their interest.

I am interested in getting the Ouya software working on other hardware. I have a retired 32gb Razr with multimedia dock that is begging to be used in my home theater. I really just want to control the phone with a ps3 gamepad and only a ps3 gamepad, so maybe I should see if you can emulate a mouse with it and sixaxis app.

Asadullah said:
I'm not trying to deter you or anything but I would hold out on getting real serious because I can see them changing how they work the store, updates and the launcher. Right now you can't get updates or use the ouya store unless you use the stock launcher. This is gonna cost them money and they can't outright stop us from using a different store, launcher, or cm10. So changing how those things to work solo dolo would be in their interest.
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That's a huge undertaking for them from a business standpoint. Right now, they're doing the proprietary tactics of trying to lock it to their console - they're doing this to get console sales AND app store sales. By unlocking the software for other devices, or the device for other stores they will give up one of the two as well as cause a support nightmare. Right now, they only have to support their developers app on one hardware specification. If they release it, they open themselves (and their developers) up to numerous issues.
I don't think it's likely to happen. They want their own ecosystem and simplicity of supporting one device.
I would say they won't actively block porting because it does not cause the support issues, it's simply "not a supported way of going to the Ouya store". It also allows them to get the development on these other devices for A) free and the sales these devices bring in through the Ouya store. So it's a win win for them to not block it. No support overhead and added revenue.

snake2332 said:
I am interested in getting the Ouya software working on other hardware. I have a retired 32gb Razr with multimedia dock that is begging to be used in my home theater. I really just want to control the phone with a ps3 gamepad and only a ps3 gamepad, so maybe I should see if you can emulate a mouse with it and sixaxis app.
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Doesn't the razr have cm10 or something? The ouya framework is only a couple of apps. It wouldn't really give you the ability to do that. Unless you mean the launcher and store as he only interface

Asadullah said:
Doesn't the razr have cm10 or something? The ouya framework is only a couple of apps. It wouldn't really give you the ability to do that. Unless you mean the launcher and store as he only interface
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I guess I don't really want the Ouya interface so much as just an easy way to control the device solely with the gamepad. A solution for this might already exist, I just haven't looked yet.

I don't mean to be an a**hole.. But should this be in the general section until something comes to fruition? You have started many threads in the development section, but so far there's not much in them to justify them.. Again, no disrespect..
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7TimesCursed said:
But should this be in the general section until something comes to fruition?p
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I will have to disagree, this is what the development sections are all about. Its posted as a [WIP] so people don't read the title and get their hopes up that its a "how to". Sorry if this is the case. The idea is that if anyone else has any productive input we can bounce ideas/issues around concerning ouya software on other hardware.
...Now that's not to say the posts in this thread shouldn't be in general, as there has yet to be a productive post! lol

It is possible, but the issue is finding a device to port it to, and getting the screen to work.
Edit: a different more probable way would be to make an OUYA launcher app/launcher.
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Edit: a different more probable way would be to make an OUYA launcher app/launcher.
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I've been messing around learning to program android. Getting pretty good (I think, but I think that about everything I do ) and am working on turning the open source home launcher sample that comes with the android sdk into something more usable. Having issues getting the icons to display as full hd though. What I was thinking was this and in this order, with the android sdk instead of the odk:
1) Make a launcher that displays all apps can change wallpapers and has keyboard/controller shortcuts assigned to it. More features would be for later.
2) Make an open source store that would basically just be a listview probably just gonna use professorpoptarts source code and add a little something to it.
3) ......open source updater it looks like originally the ouya guys used cyanogen updater for source code reference this shouldn't be that hard also several rom developers have made open source updaters so there are several references.
It's easier said than done but since there aren't alot of people working on things I'm gonna give it a go. Honestly I would use the odk but I have enough issues with eclipse and the sdk over the last several years if the odk is as bad I don't have patience for it right now and I'm not trying to deal with non sense. If anyone wants to help lets do it.
EDIT I'm sure that poptart can fight his own battles but the thread he made on alternative store he did something productive

(Mod) OUYA Store and Custom Launcher running on the Shield!!

I have manage to get the OUYA store running on my Nvidia Shield!
The official Ouya Launcher does not get the job done no matter I've tried,
So i tried some of the alternative launchers, and low and behold... It worked!!
The Ouya launcher in which i used was Custom OUYA Launcher by Manuel Etchegaray.
It works pretty well but in an hour of playing around, it has froze up twice.
Video of it in action!
http://youtu.be/-ZsRk3FzqkM
*pardon my cell phone camera...It sucks!

Thanks for sharing this
Will try to test this during the weekend!
Cheers,
anthonws

Any details or just proof of concept?

twistedumbrella said:
Any details or just proof of concept?
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Just install ODK 0.0.6 onto the shield, manual inject the OOBE.apk from any OUYA rom, Create a new account (wont let you log on to existing). Install Custom OUYA launcher and there you go.
The only benefit i noticed is you can actually get a free copy of Order & Chaos by gameloft (free on OUYA) thats about it. thats why i stopped toying with it.

uoykcuf86 said:
Just install ODK 0.0.6 onto the shield, manual inject the OOBE.apk from any OUYA rom, Create a new account (wont let you log on to existing). Install Custom OUYA launcher and there you go.
The only benefit i noticed is you can actually get a free copy of Order & Chaos by gameloft (free on OUYA) thats about it. thats why i stopped toying with it.
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The other OUYA thread had a working 1.5 that's why I was asking. The stock launcher and everything.

twistedumbrella said:
The other OUYA thread had a working 1.5 that's why I was asking. The stock launcher and everything.
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Not the store...

Could you post a guide on how to make it work?
I would like to test it on my shield.
Thank you.

I tested the amazing frog apk from rooted ouya, on shield, and controller mappings work, without this rom, on stock 4.3, haven't tried on 4.4 from todays update, I hope the shield gets more support, as this whole thread on the shield seems to become more dead by the minute, but wwjoshdew seems excited, I cant wait for his video, if he sees this I would be happy!

mudflap2.0 said:
I tested the amazing frog apk from rooted ouya, on shield, and controller mappings work, without this rom, on stock 4.3, haven't tried on 4.4 from todays update, I hope the shield gets more support, as this whole thread on the shield seems to become more dead by the minute, but wwjoshdew seems excited, I cant wait for his video, if he sees this I would be happy!
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Oh I just now see it after searching my name.
There will be OUYA videos eventually, but with the FireTV getting root... It's my firm belief that it killed the OUYA. I know, I have both.
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wwjoshdew said:
Oh I just now see it after searching my name.
There will be OUYA videos eventually, but with the FireTV getting root... It's my firm belief that it killed the OUYA. I know, I have both.
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Can't kill what's already dead haha

twistedumbrella said:
Can't kill what's already dead haha
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Commercially, it was never really alive. Only in the minds of the true believers in the forums. Were It not for the venture capital millions, Ouya would be buried next to the ET cartridges.

Hey Hey now. I Kickstarted the Ouya and while it may not be the ultimate powerhouse console it never set out to be, I still enjoy the hell out of the tiny box. Makes a great portable Media Player/Light Android gaming platform/Trivia Game Night system with the Jack Pack, etc.

[Q] Answer me this

I'm writing a paper on the use of apps for my college course. Basically, I'm wanting to know what the main reason is for the development of apps from a developer's point of view. Is it money, making something useful, or pure entertainment in developing? Also, if you're not a developer how many apps do you have and how many do you actually use/find useful? If I could get some people to chime in and share their experiences and opinions it'd be greatly appreciated!

Non developer.
I mostly use (in order):
Tapatalk (car and IT forums)
Cortana (Windows Phone digital assistant)
Browsers (data compression, normal, tor)
Games (allsorted)

Jesse, first of all thanks for the reply! It seems as if all your apps have an actually use for you. Have you ever paid for any of your apps and if so was it worth the money?

Not a developer, but I mostly use browsers and I also use ppsspp for my gaming needs. I find it fun to experiment with an Android device, because that way you get to explore your device's full potential. And since android is highly customisable, the possibilities are endless.

Thanks for the reply! It's interesting that you guys both brought up that you use multiple browsers. Is there a reason for this? In Jesse's case I can see how you would need a separate browser for tor to access .onion sites but personally I just use the stock browser and in the very rare occasion will I open up Google chrome. Could you tell me a bit more about ppsspp? I have my note 4 rooted and running custom ROM so the customization is great I completely agree. Android is awesome!

Note4Nerd said:
Jesse, first of all thanks for the reply! It seems as if all your apps have an actually use for you. Have you ever paid for any of your apps and if so was it worth the money?
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I do have other apps too, I just don't use them as regularly. Some of these are different launchers, lock screen customizers, and apps like tasker, as well as some one click root apps I'm trying. (if you can help me root my MT6572 please help here
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All the apps I originally listed I never paid for except for GTA SA(not pirated, but I have some originally free games that are cracked)
On this post, I have paid for tasker, nova launcher prime and my locker pro. That was mostly because I had a free $20 google play voucher with my phone.

Note4Nerd said:
Thanks for the reply! It's interesting that you guys both brought up that you use multiple browsers. Is there a reason for this? In Jesse's case I can see how you would need a separate browser for tor to access .onion sites but personally I just use the stock browser and in the very rare occasion will I open up Google chrome. Could you tell me a bit more about ppsspp? I have my note 4 rooted and running custom ROM so the customization is great I completely agree. Android is awesome!
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As for browsers, I use google chrome on my xperia sp (I might get rid of it when I root it though), whereas on my xperia t I mostly use the stock sony browser. Now, as for the ppsspp, it's actually a psp emulator. In other words, it allows you to run psp games (in .iso format) in your android phone. I think it's one of the best apps on the play store, since I don't like most native android games like temple run, minions and such. Since you have a note 4, which is a very powerful device, I highly recommend you to check it out.

This one IS coming from a developer.
Oftentimes, when I make an app, I saw a hole and I wanted to fill it. The most recent app spawned itself from the Droid Turbo not being rooted until now(finally).
People heard there was a root method so they were waiting on a hair trigger's notice to find out if it had been released. So I took it upon myself to let people know when it happened, where to get more info, and when it was released, how to get it for themselves. It spawned over 400 unique downloads on 15 different devices with an aggregate rating of 4.82.
I also like to improve on apps that I've already seen. If I feel something is drastically missing, I like to look at what they have and ask what I can do better with that.. then add what's missing.
Another example is an app I created that is made for creative commons photo sharing. So for example, when someone needs a picture for their design project, then they can simply open the app, search the word, and download. I came up with it for my senior project and we branded the whole thing, but it never went anywhere because it was unrefined.
In contrast to that reason, I often make apps because I'm testing something and it snowballs. I have a bunch of different "app pieces" in a handful of languages sitting around on my computer.
To summarize, I make apps because:
1. There's a hole and I'm going to fill it.
2. I want to improve what I see.
3. I'm simply passionate about it.
Hope that helps!

Problem with video addon on Kodi

I've always error with video addon installation
this is the log http://pastebin.com/DtbedC6e

Which add-on is it?

Stream on Demand or Exodus

wiking76 said:
Stream on Demand or Exodus
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I am using Kodi 16.1 and SPMC and have used Exodus, Genisis, Phoenix, One Channel and others, all flawlessly. I never heard of stream on demand. The mutts nuts and the mutts nuts reloaded error for me.
BTW: I am rooted.

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I am using Kodi 16.1 and SPMC and have used Exodus, Genisis, Phoenix, One Channel and others, all flawlessly. I never heard of stream on demand. The mutts nuts and the mutts nuts reloaded error for me.
BTW: I am rooted.
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What is SPMC? Stream on Demand in an italian addon for italian channel, sorry XD
How you install the addon? Probably i do something wrong. Sorry for my bad english, i hope you can understand me
Ps. Is helpful the rooting of remix mini?
Pps. i've found SPMC, today i'll try it

Keep us posted. SPMC is a streamiline buikd of Kodi. I am using the latest built on 16.1 I think
Rooting is a bit challenging because of the way it has to be done. Is it beneficial? Well you can delete some bloat and add other apps. I am still tinkering, but you can also break your system. There is no cutom recovery and I am not sure if bootloader is unlocked. I am just learning to mess with android so it is fun.

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Keep us posted. SPMC is a streamiline buikd of Kodi. I am using the latest built on 16.1 I think.
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Oh, good, you're here! I have Jarvis (16.1?) from google play store, see on semperpax your 16.3.0 SPMC. I know you like the Nvidia Shield (should I get it if it's gonna spend most of it's life as a Kodi machine? Oh, and MLB at Bat device, really important as the Mini only gives basic android app while my ancient WD Live Plus box has a richer version with "Skip to inning" and "watch from beginning" on live games and jump forward button for commercial breaks without having to scroll or fast forward just tap button (I hear but not sure the Shield does that too) so get the Shield or not (it's so damn sexy while the Mini and WD are basically doing their jobs and there is no native keyboard with the Shield)?
Back to question: Does SPMC have any advantage for the Mini?
I see on semperpax that abilities are added to Shield and I don't have a fancy sound system, just soundbar (Vizio).
Currently using TDB Wizard Zeus Build. Is that the right one for Mini? Says it's for 2 GB devices. Everything working. But since you build/use the SPMC, gotta believe it's good. And we are talking koying SPMC?
Simple: Is koying/SPMC better on Mini than the Zeus build (or something like it)?
Also, does the Mini main screen being on a lower resolution (so the icons are bigger and easier to click with air mouse) affect the Kodi screen and movies?
The Kodi icons seem to be the same size either way but sometimes seems like HD stream is better when Mini set to 1080x1920 but could be wrong as streams vary so much.
Once again, does the Mini resolution setting affect Kodi?
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Rooting is a bit challenging because of the way it has to be done. Is it beneficial? Well you can delete some bloat and add other apps. I am still tinkering, but you can also break your system. There is no cutom recovery and I am not sure if bootloader is unlocked. I am just learning to mess with android so it is fun.
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Did you ever find good reasons for rooting? I've been able to sideload anything I've wanted (though I still wish I was able to move MLB app from WD to Mini (not for me directly but my wife is much happier when she has her baseball, so yeah it's for me, too)).
And lastly, if I give in to the sexiness of the Nvidia Shield, will the remote work wonderfully (wife, remember, baseball, chick tv shows) is there any point in getting the 500 GB model if I have 3 extra 2GB hard drives with a cheapy external reader, not NAS (though I've used none of them since Kodi streams but have thought of setting up PVR function for F1 races)? Oh, and I've seen folks trying to run PIA VPN on Shield (for baseball blackouts), with varying results. Any experience?
Wow, thanks, I've unloaded so many of my little streaming doubts, are you "oncouch" like a therapist?

Rooting allows use of some programs to clean bloat, or rearrange system etc. All not mandatory but I like the freedom. Also using apps2sd pro to move apps to SD card re d . Adblocker and others need root. Some was built for Android not PC so it is smaller and optimized for our hardware.