Well it should be an easy question. I was just wondering do I need to have S-OFF to root and install custom recovery? If not what's the point of having S-OFF asides from readjusting individual partition and flashing modem?
No
1. You just need unlocked bootloader for rooting and flashing custom recovery.
2. If you have sOFF , you dont need to unlock bootloader with htcdev(so you dont lose system apps like flashlight calender etc. Which you do lose if unlock by htcdev)
You can unlock bootloader with revone itself(search revone sOFF tool in one original android development)
Then you can flash custom recovery
Another benifit is while coming back to stock, you can get superCID with sOFF and flash any RUU
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I know I have to relock bootloader, back to stock RUU, but what about Son Soff stuff? Thank you people!
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I know I need to know as well I want the bell radios back .also if I want to keep them at a later the for a new from do I transfer over the system folder ?
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But s-off is only so you can flash stuff through recovery and not fast boot .and some devices came s-off from factory . What I'm iffy about as well is do I run the ruu from bell again that's gingerbread then do the ota ? Because h-boot I thought couldn't be downgraded ? I hope a dev sees this .I hate People having to put up with All the echoing in the phone calls
With stock Bell ics ota, it does not feedback anymore with phonecalls
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ideaLduK said:
With stock Bell ics ota, it does not feedback anymore with phonecalls
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So you did go back to S-ON before you OTA updated to ICS? (too much jargon )
Did you unlock the bootloader and flash a recovery after? Did you install the other kernel from the supertool and did you get root?
mohcho said:
So you did go back to S-ON before you OTA updated to ICS? (too much jargon )
Did you unlock the bootloader and flash a recovery after? Did you install the other kernel from the supertool and did you get root?
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I havent S-ON prior to do this, it worked perfectly. I only relocked BL with fastboot oem lock then RUUed then OTAed. After that I reunlocked BL and, flashed twrp recovery and flashed my rom (already rooted )
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So it seems when you flashed a custom rom, it's the rom that gives you root access?
I'm on the stock OTA but can't get root. Should I flash another kernel?
I don't necessarily want to run a custom rom but want root.
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So it seems when you flashed a custom rom, it's the rom that gives you root access?
I'm on the stock OTA but can't get root. Should I flash another kernel?
I don't necessarily want to run a custom rom but want root.
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If i was you and i wanted to get root, id do it manually instead of doing it via supertool. Look in the stickies of the dev subforum to get the procedure. Otherwise PM me maybe i can help you
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IF YOU ARE S-ON UNLOCKED: FLASH THE STOCK RECOVERY AND RELOCK THE BOOTLOADER, THEN RUN THE RUU IN FASTBOOT.
IF YOU ARE S-OFF: RUN THE RUU IN FASTBOOT.
Yes, caps is necessary. S-OFF is convenient in many ways.
Hunt3r.j2 said:
IF YOU ARE S-ON UNLOCKED: FLASH THE STOCK RECOVERY AND RELOCK THE BOOTLOADER, THEN RUN THE RUU IN FASTBOOT.
IF YOU ARE S-OFF: RUN THE RUU IN FASTBOOT.
Yes, caps is necessary. S-OFF is convenient in many ways.
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Totally agree with that. Otherwise, your phone could be transformed into a BRICK.
*warning* noob content!
I used the Vivid_All-In-One_Kit_v1.2 to unlock, root, and install the clockwork recovery.
The OTA ICS update fails - it just goes into fastboot and that's it.
So I'm guessing I need to install the original recovery?
I tried finding that, but have been unsuccessful, any help provided is welcome.
Do I also need to apply the stock RUU? Where do I find that one?
On my old Legend HTC support actually supplied me with the stock RUU.....
you should be able to download it from htc just make sure you relock your bootloader if it is unlocked before running the ruu
Can someone tell the definitive way to flash a rom on my phone? http://forum.xda-developers.com/images/smilies/confused.gif
Should I unlock my phone via htcdev.com and flash custom ROM's? (what exactly is the difference between S-OFF and S-ON?)
OR
Should I follow this guide - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1705913
but the problem is that the Asian version has problems getting root access using alpharevx's method.
Can someone confirm if the Revolutionary method works on the Indian Incredible S?
Also what is a gold card?
Depends on your hboot version.
the link you posted gives you most of the information required.
s-off means security off and s-on is security on..
s-off gives you easier ability to flash roms and recoverys.
do a bit of reading around in the forum and you'll find almost all the answers you need
No offense but I read a lot but the only thing I'm confused about is the Indian version not being able to root as stated in the OP.
My hboot version is 2.00
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TheDareDevil said:
No offense but I read a lot but the only thing I'm confused about is the Indian version not being able to root as stated in the OP.
My hboot version is 2.00
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With HBOOT 2.00, you have 2 options.
Option 1 is to downgrade your mainver and then install a GB RUU that has HBOOT 1.13 and then you can use Revolutionary to gain true S-OFF. This is the best option IMO.
Option 2 is to unlock your bootloader using HTCDEV.com and admit to HTC that you are modding your phone. Once you are unlocked, you can flash a custom recovery that will allow you to flash custom, rooted ROMs.
If I use the second method, will I be able to flash all custom RIMs?
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If I use the second method, will I be able to flash all custom RIMs?
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Yes but every time you flash a ROM, you will manually have to extract the boot.img file from the ROM's zip file and then flash it in FASTBBOT USB mode using the command fastboot flash boot [boot.img]
That is why I prefer Option 1 and true S-OFF. You won't have to do that extra step each time.
If you decide to unlock your bootloader from HTC Dev then you must use the custom roms boot.img to install custom roms.
(From what i have read, please correct me if im wrong)
If you decide to S-OFF your device you do not need to obtain the boot.img if you want to flash that rom.
I decided to go the S-OFF route because not all the roms that are developed support S-ON.
If you have HBOOT 2.0 then you will need to (like tpbklake said)
downgrade your mainver and then install a GB RUU that has HBOOT 1.13 and then you can use Revolutionary to gain true S-OFF.
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I agreed this is my preferred option.
hi,
since S-off become available,
i am a bit confused as to which step i should be doing ?
do i s-off the phone first ?
or do i root it using the htcdev and then s-off it ?
can anyone help me
from stock: unlock bootloader - custom recovery - root - soff
You don't need to s-off at all if all you want is root/custom rom. Do you want to have s-off for a particular reason?
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I did S-off and unlocked bootloader first, that way HTC don't I have a unlocked bootloader.
ryryzz said:
from stock: unlock bootloader - custom recovery - root - soff
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I disagree.
S-off from stock then the bootloader can be unlocked also using revone I believe.
bobsie41 said:
I disagree.
S-off from stock then the bootloader can be unlocked also using revone I believe.
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Yes it can I did it and it worked just fine.
bobsie41 said:
I disagree.
S-off from stock then the bootloader can be unlocked also using revone I believe.
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then after unlocking boot loader,
just install super user then install custom rom ?
v1hypersg said:
then after unlocking boot loader,
just install super user then install custom rom ?
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S-Off -> Unlock Bootloader through revone -> Custom Recovery -> Whatever you want to do
Hi All,
So I've read all the threads with regards to rooting, custom roms etc but I just want a little clarification. My HTC One is on a UK Vodafone rom which I'd like to remove and replace with a stock HTC one or potentially one of the custom roms at a later date.
Just so I am clear in order to do this for a stock rom I need to S-Off and change the CID, Root and install something along the lines of CWM as the boot loader? Then in order for me to receive updates when HTC releases them I have to have S-On again?
Further I notice there are CWM stock HTC nandroid backups. Is this the easier way to go on the understanding that I won't receive HTC updates? Whilst I can see plenty of tutorials showing me how to do all of the above and I would have no problem in doing them I'm trying to understand if S-Off is a step I would need or would benefit me.
Thanks for any advice.
LennonConnor said:
Hi All,
So I've read all the threads with regards to rooting, custom roms etc but I just want a little clarification. My HTC One is on a UK Vodafone rom which I'd like to remove and replace with a stock HTC one or potentially one of the custom roms at a later date.
Just so I am clear in order to do this for a stock rom I need to S-Off and change the CID, Root and install something along the lines of CWM as the boot loader? Then in order for me to receive updates when HTC releases them I have to have S-On again?
Further I notice there are CWM stock HTC nandroid backups. Is this the easier way to go on the understanding that I won't receive HTC updates? Whilst I can see plenty of tutorials showing me how to do all of the above and I would have no problem in doing them I'm trying to understand if S-Off is a step I would need or would benefit me.
Thanks for any advice.
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If all you want to do is flash a custom rom then you don't need to s-off your device. You do need to unlock the bootloader and then flash a custom recovery like CWM or TWRP and then you'll be good for rom flashing.
However if you do unlock the bootloader and flash recovery without s-off you're device will show this in the bootloader screen and may cause you a problem if you need to make a warranty claim.
S-off, amongst other uses, does allow you to unlock the bootloader and relock it without anyone knowing.
Be aware..... achieving and having s-off can lead to risks of bricking so you need to read up about it and be comfortable with what you're going to do.
Check out this guide here for unlocking and flashing without s-off.
Also, latest Vodafone HTC Ones are already sold with Hboot version 1.54 and JB 4.2.2
S-off is currently not possible with the upgraded firmware
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I have an international HTC one but I don't know which guide to follow. Do I need to s-off to convert to cm ROMs? I have the latest ota update sense 6 android 4.4.2 so will I need to s-off and will I ever need to convert my firmware to change into multiple ROMs? And I see 4 ways to s-off which is the right one to follow?(if s-off needed)
yasir4abbas said:
I have an international HTC one but I don't know which guide to follow.
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There is a video guide how to root on this forum. click on the "root info" tab
Do I need to s-off to convert to cm ROMs?
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no
I have the latest ota update sense 6 android 4.4.2 so will I need to s-off
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no
and will I ever need to convert my firmware to change into multiple ROMs?
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no, but its recommended to use latest firmware. Btw its easier to s-off on older firmware version (hboot 1.44 i.e)
And I see 4 ways to s-off which is the right one to follow?(if s-off needed)
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You need to follow the method that match your hboot version. A little bit of reading would have tell you that
My advice: read more from this forum before doing anything to your phone, looks like you don't understand few basic things like what is root vs s-off? what is firmware vs software? You might also want to make sure you know how to go back to 100% stock before modding your phone. Sticky threads are your friends, read them and ask question if its not clear.
happy reading
alray said:
There is a video guide how to root on this forum. click on the "root info" tab
no
no
no, but its recommended to use latest firmware. Btw its easier to s-off on older firmware version (hboot 1.44 i.e)
You need to follow the method that match your hboot version. A little bit of reading would have tell you that
My advice: read more from this forum before doing anything to your phone, looks like you don't understand few basic things like what is root vs s-off? what is firmware vs software? You might also want to make sure you know how to go back to 100% stock before modding your phone. Sticky threads are your friends, read them and ask question if its not clear.
happy reading
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Thank you!
but with my previous phones I always needed to flash boot.IMG to get another ROM working except for HTC pico...desire c,desire something and sensation needed a flash of boot.IMG if s-on...till now I hear I can flash any ROM with the latest hboot is this true? I don't want to s-off if I have the option
I have checked the video guide but sadly YouTube is blocked in my country.
yasir4abbas said:
Thank you!
but with my previous phones I always needed to flash boot.IMG to get another ROM working except for HTC pico...desire c,desire something and sensation needed a flash of boot.IMG if s-on...till now I hear I can flash any ROM with the latest hboot is this true? I don't want to s-off if I have the option
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again you need to read more, you are confusing 2 different things
boot.img is the kernel
hboot is the bootloader
hboot (bootloader) version doesnt matter when flashing roms
boot (kernel) is not secured on the htc one so it doesn't require to be flashed manually after flashing a rom like on some other htc models. Boot.img is included in every htc one roms.
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if you want to flash a custom rom you need:
unlocked bootloader
custom recovery installed (twrp 2.6.3.3 for every 4.4+ Sense based roms or twrp 2.7.1.1 for CM roms, the only exception are GPE roms which will require s-off)
adb/fastboot knowledge to unlock the bootloader, flash the recovery and push the rom.
my advice is make a BACKUP... really dont forget. I did and had a tough time getting the phone back to work.
And read some more on these forums, what i did was:
1. unlock bootloader via htcdev
2. flash a custom recovery (at first i used clockworkmod but got in trouble later, twrp fixed it eventually so id advice go with twrp)
3. backup everything
4. flash custom mod (i used revolution hd 71.1 but check which version u could use best)
5. flash kernel (at first i used evolution x but didnt work , got a anti-firewater patch error when trying s-off with firewater. Bulletproof kernel worked)
6. use firewater to s-off.
I know you don't want to s-off, but in case of emergency OMGWTF brick, s-off is better to restore your phone back to stock as some ruu files are not signed and would need s-off to flash. And if there is no ruu for your newer firmware, then you need s-off to downgrade. Going back to s-on is a simple Fastboot command, but getting s-off requires an exploit that may get patched like it has time and time again. So, s-off while you can
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Uzephi said:
I know you don't want to s-off, but in case of emergency OMGWTF brick, s-off is better to restore your phone back to stock as some ruu files are not signed and would need s-off to flash. And if there is no ruu for your newer firmware, then you need s-off to downgrade. Going back to s-on is a simple Fastboot command, but getting s-off requires an exploit that may get patched like it has time and time again. So, s-off while you can
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I'm actually worried about my SIM detection...Which is the reason y I don't want to s-off ...and I c that I have to downgrade h boot to get previous versions to work...I'm following this guide.
http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/f48...-s-off-change-cid-downgrade-hboot-os-1838907/
yasir4abbas said:
I'm actually worried about my SIM detection...Which is the reason y I don't want to s-off ...and I c that I have to downgrade h boot to get previous versions to work...I'm following this guide.
http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/f48...-s-off-change-cid-downgrade-hboot-os-1838907/
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SIM detection? All s-off does is remove the secure flag. Of course with s-off you can do a plethora of things like what you linked. Why would you want to change your cid or downgrade?
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Uzephi said:
SIM detection? All s-off does is remove the secure flag. Of course with s-off you can do a plethora of things like what you linked. Why would you want to change your cid or downgrade?
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So I should only unlock boot loader and try to s-off if I want ...but if I leave it s-on will I be able to install cm10,9 or 7(example) ...no change of cid and downgrading my h boot.
yasir4abbas said:
So I should only unlock boot loader and try to s-off if I want ...but if I leave it s-on will I be able to install cm10,9 or 7(example) ...no change of cid and downgrading my h boot.
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No. If all you want is to install a custom Rom, unlock the bootloader and Fastboot flash the correct custom recovery for your device
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