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[Q] Hit the 5 month mark, should I finally root and lagfix?

I have noticed that when I click a button, I usually have to wait from 1-2 seconds before I get a response. Would lagfix take care of this? I'm running stock Froyo.

As many have stated all the lagfix does is help fix the very slow rts file system, it most likely would not help in your case.
Best thing to do is delete unused apps, and reboot the phone every day or to(seems to help mine out, cant guarantee results)
Also if you havent needed root in 5 months you probably don't need it

Unless you want to use opitimised roms, I dont see why you would need to root. Check your memory usage delete unused apps and reboot the phone ever once in a while.

My honest opinion, no reason to have an android phone if you are not using roms
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mcord11758 said:
My honest opinion, no reason to have an android phone if you are not using roms
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Gonna have to agree with mcord here. had to go back to stock froyo for about 5 hours (didnt have all my tool to get back my 2.3.4 ROM) and it was horrible.
you might not be up for it but i really recommend flashing a Froyo Custom ROM from one of the xda DEVs. you'll love your phone and be amazed that it can be so much smoother and responsive.

First thing I did after i rooted was flashed a new kernel to overclock. Performance increased but battery life was poor. Then my first rom was cm7..been hooked since..tried miui once then went back to cm7.
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This is what lagfix can do for your phone.
Im using stock mosaic V 2.3.4 rom with no overclock.
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Providing arbitrary benchmarks does not seem like an actual reason to employ a lag fix.
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z28james said:
Providing arbitrary benchmarks does not seem like an actual reason to employ a lag fix.
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No a Benchmark score is not the best example to lag fix your phone ,but the more power you get, plus better battery life and, better perrformance are great reasons to lag fix your phone. I just posted the quadrant score so kb0npw can see the increase performance from normal rfs file system to ext4(lag fix).
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godpancho said:
This is what lagfix can do for your phone.
Im using stock mosaic V 2.3.4 rom with no overclock.
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Lol people always thinking benchmarks scores mean everything

diminished5th said:
Lol people always thinking benchmarks scores mean everything
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I dont think he thought it meant everything, he was giving a simple before and after which showed some improvement. Quadrant can actually be pretty useful when trying to gauge what effects certain changes have on your phone, say you score a 1900 before you change 'x' and then 2200 after that change, then you know its increased performance somewhat and youre moving in the right direction. How much it has increased your performance is debatable, however. My point is quadrant can be a useful tool when making changes on your phone if you take it with a grain of salt.
EDIT: To answer op's question, Read up on some custom roms and flash one, the difference is phenomenal and you'll wonder how you went 5 months without them. If you have any other questions feel free to pm me and I'll see what help I can be

Fed up with stock 4.2 (ROM suggestions)

I lived my nexus 7 on 4.1 but man 4.2 build is so bad. It is almost unusable to me. It is laggy and buggy with freezing all the time. Any suggestions on something very stable, close to stock? How is cyanogenmod? Ideas would be appreciated. Looking to root tomorrow I can't take this any longer.
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I find Smoothrom and motley kernel to provide a very stable and fast combination with excellent battery.
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gsw5700 said:
I find Smoothrom and motley kernel to provide a very stable and fast combination with excellent battery.
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Ι tried that for a day, it was smooth and all but the battery life while idle was horrible.
Reverted to 4.1.2 stock, is there a way to get rid of the notification to update to 4.2 (without updating ofcourse)...

jlibis said:
I lived my nexus 7 on 4.1 but man 4.2 build is so bad. It is almost unusable to me. It is laggy and buggy with freezing all the time. Any suggestions on something very stable, close to stock? How is cyanogenmod? Ideas would be appreciated. Looking to root tomorrow I can't take this any longer.
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Strange how peoples experiences differ
I use stock rom 4.2 and never ever have any kind of lag or freezing of any kind - everything works 100% and buttersmooth constantly
I never have to reboot or anything, it just runs for months and not even once have I had any lag or problems

Try a 4.1 rom, CM 10.1 is your best bet, but im not familliar of this device roms.
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People have problems with 4.2 if they have old applications that are not updated for 4.2, don't clean their cache, or don't trim their storage.
Any complaints about battery life are due to applications requesting data synch or location. Those wake the Nexus up, and can be turned off.
4.2 is fine for me.
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I had similar issues in stock 4.2, tried about 3 others before settling on cm10.1, which runs smooth as can be for me with good battery life.
Seems like the these things are pretty finicky and everyone's handles different ROMs differently.
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I have not had good luck with aosp roms on my Nexus 7. I always end up back at cyanogenmod. Try fitsnugly's build.
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rmm200 said:
People have problems with 4.2 if they have old applications that are not updated for 4.2, don't clean their cache, or don't trim their storage.
Any complaints about battery life are due to applications requesting data synch or location. Those wake the Nexus up, and can be turned off.
4.2 is fine for me.
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You do realize not every device is the same. I keep good tabs on my devices. I would know if an application was causing the problem. I've factory reset the device and nothing has changed. Also I've heard from numerous people who have had problems like mine.
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I am looking for the same. I tried ParanoidAndroid but I kept getting into a boot loop. :/ I will probably try CM 10.1 next.

pachyderm said:
I am looking for the same. I tried ParanoidAndroid but I kept getting into a boot loop. :/ I will probably try CM 10.1 next.
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Happened me to, and just factory reset
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I use rasbean and Franco kernel atm.
I have no reboots and no lag.

Paranoid android 2.54 (4.1.2) with Franco kernal
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On slim 4.1.2...stock kernel...no issues at all! Love it!
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I love sparksco's saber mod ROM (4.2.1). It's very smooth and has excellent battery life (10%/hr screen-on time + 10%/day). The supplied kernel is great but I prefer metallice's m-kernel.
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That's exactly why I finally decided to root and rom. I did like the 4.2 features so I was shooting for one that incorporated those (dual-sided notification bar, etc.)
Paranoid Android nailed it for me. It feels just like stock 4.2 but is wayyyy smoother, wayyyy less problematic and has a ton of customization options.
I gave cyanogenmod and a couple others a chance first but Paranoid Android definitely has my vote.
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I decided to go with AOKP and I am loving it. So much better than stock it's crazy. Like night and day difference.
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it hard to decide which is the better rom.
btw i'm using paranoid android+franco kernel

I Use the super Charged Series N7, although PRIME D01-25 is also good. Both are very smooth with great battery life, especially when using M-Kernel or motley.
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This is too funny...
If you have the latest version of jb and it is so bad you can barely use it than you need an RMA.. While it out may have some minor bugs I used it for a long time and loved it... I only switched to paranoid because I love the pie..
It sounds like a hyperbolic exaggeration to me. If not your device is faulty.. or you have some really bad apps messing things up..
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Anyone else feel like this?

http://mobilesyrup.com/2013/05/27/i-think-im-done-hacking-my-smartphones/
Skins were horrible, but I'm really liking what OEMs are doing now, this article literally took the words out of my mouth.
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From time to time you might feel like that. But it does not mean that you can't tamper with a phone, especially a nexus one.
Yes if I would buy an s4 the only thing that I would is root it just for the sake of TB.
But with the nexus you can do anything and is super easy to return to where you were.
And no counter or avoiding warranty by unlocking the bootloader you just need 3 words to lock or unlock it and of course a backup
I don't say you have to become a crack flasher but trying mods and roms will make you have a better perspective and even convince you that stock is better.
Anyway, everything is up to you.
You can always leave it at stock and wait for that much desired OTA.
Cheers mate
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I only flash custom ROM's and Kernels for performance, not so much additional features or looks.

No, I don't feel like this because I own a nexus device.

Kinda off topic question: what does everyone need titanium backup for? I always see people saying "the only reason I root is for TB", but why would you need to backup your apps if your not flashing Roms?
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lowrider262 said:
Kinda off topic question: what does everyone need titanium backup for? I always see people saying "the only reason I root is for TB", but why would you need to backup your apps if your not flashing Roms?
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You can uninstall or freeze system apps with tb.
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memetcan88 said:
You can uninstall or freeze system apps with tb.
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Oh, ok. I've been using root explorer to delete system apps for so long I forgot TB could do it too.
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Ice Cream Sandwich was the end of custom ROMs on the phone for me. I have CM on my N7, however, I feel it runs better. I always buy a phone and make it make me flash something else. Since the Galaxy Nexus, I have had no need to do this.
lowrider262 said:
Kinda off topic question: what does everyone need titanium backup for? I always see people saying "the only reason I root is for TB", but why would you need to backup your apps if your not flashing Roms?
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Agreed, it's circular logic. Especially now that game stats/etc will be saved so you can pick your phone or tablet up and still be at the same spot in the game.
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You can uninstall or freeze system apps with tb.
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You can disable system apps with the OS since ICS, too.

I love Flashing Hacking Modding all the good things that goes with owning a Nexus.. :good::good::good: But I don't go over the top... See my banner

crachel said:
Ice Cream Sandwich was the end of custom ROMs on the phone for me. I have CM on my N7, however, I feel it runs better.
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Agreed, Android has been closing the gap, if my current ROM/source wasn't available I'd happily rock stock.

I bought a nexus 4 because I love hacking, customizing and bricking my phone and all this stuff, I love it, no regrets, I dont want to go back to touchwiz and timescape...

If stock android had customizable notification toggles built-in I'd probably stay 100% stock. And yes I know there's apps on the market but Ive tried them & didn't like.
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This is why I own a Nexus 4.
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I stopped reading right here
There’s a reason that the HTC One benchmarks lower on CM10.1, despite running Android 4.2.2, than it does on Sense 5.0, which runs Android 4.1.2
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I used to feel like this. Back when I had a g2x I flashed because I HAD to frequently. Every ROM would inevitably become unstable and I would find myself looking for a new ROM to flash. Annoying as hell really. My n4 is rooted stock 4.2.2 w/ franco kernel for help with battery drain. I truly yearn for the day that I don't have to do anything to a phone. Not even root. Will the nexus line eventually come pre-rooted as well as unlocked? A man can dream can't he?
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I don't feel like I need to install a custom rom with this device. Tweaking it with a few mods gets me what I need. I still don't get why some refuse to mod the phone because they want to get the next ota update. Once it is released, all one has to do is flash a rooted version that should appear here within 24 hours.

lowrider262 said:
If stock android had customizable notification toggles built-in I'd probably stay 100% stock. And yes I know there's apps on the market but Ive tried them & didn't like.
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This and I want Google to give the option to unlink the bloody notification and call volume. I also want brightness slider in the notification or quick settings, dont understand why no one apart from Samsung considers the importance of the slider.
Oh and did I say battery percentage? While it's not exactly a deal breaker but still does not make any sense why stock android doesn't have it.
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uploder said:
I used to feel like this. Back when I had a g2x I flashed because I HAD to frequently. Every ROM would inevitably become unstable and I would find myself looking for a new ROM to flash. Annoying as hell really. My n4 is rooted stock 4.2.2 w/ franco kernel for help with battery drain. I truly yearn for the day that I don't have to do anything to a phone. Not even root. Will the nexus line eventually come pre-rooted as well as unlocked? A man can dream can't he?
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Oh man! A former G2x user... that also lives in Central NJ. Remember when we were waiting for the O2x ICS update? No HW acceleration or anything, it sucked.
I don't flash nearly as often as I used to like I did with my G2x. I stick with ROMs for much longer now. I'm happy with CM10.1

uploder said:
...Will the nexus line eventually come pre-rooted as well as unlocked? A man can dream can't he?
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I don't understand why it doesn't come pre-rooted. Just like enabling the Developer options, there should be some method needed to enable root, aside from the whole custom recovery custom root solution thing. Normal users aren't exposed directly to root, and power users who need root, can easily enable it. And... new users can root too without the need of those toolkits :good:

espionage724 said:
I don't understand why it doesn't come pre-rooted.
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Because it's a giant security hole..

My nexus 7 is not smooth at all!

Hey, my nexus 7 doesn't feel smooth at all. The UI feels choppy and games are lagging, even my brother iphone 3 feels smoother :crying:
I have rooted,overclocked,custom launcher etc but STILL it feels laggy, how can i solve the problem? i have latest jellybean 4.3

Try doing a clean install of 4.3 and using a different kernel.
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veeman said:
Try doing a clean install of 4.3 and using a different kernel.
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Thanks for reply, what kernel do you reccomend?

lolpok said:
Thanks for reply, what kernel do you reccomend?
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I personally use M-Kernel. But my two favorite kernels are M-Kernel and FrancoKernel. Both can be found in the Nexus 7 Original Development section.

You should install CM 10.1.2.
Everything seems to work and my Nexus 7 is faster than ever. I was running Paranoid Android and it was laggy as hell.
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Maybe you have filled the SD card too much. When the nexus has very low free space, it slows down significantly.
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You can try running an fstrim on your storage.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.grilledmonkey.lagfix
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msimindlessmsi2 said:
You can try running an fstrim on your storage.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.grilledmonkey.lagfix
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I thought 4.3 has that enabled by default.
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orlandocorral said:
I was running Paranoid Android and it was laggy as hell.
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Disable Halo.

If you're running stock 4.3, disable Google currents. This is a tried and tested fix that should fix any choppiness.
If the problem still persists, follow what veeman said and try using other kernels

veeman said:
I personally use M-Kernel. But my two favorite kernels are M-Kernel and FrancoKernel. Both can be found in the Nexus 7 Original Development section.
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Ok, thanks. It helped a bit but is it still possible to smooth it out more? or maybe it's just the hardware now.

lolpok said:
Ok, thanks. It helped a bit but is it still possible to smooth it out more? or maybe it's just the hardware now.
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You could try running an app like Forever Gone SD card cleaner. And using Greenify to hibernate apps that are running in the background might help.

nice
yes have problem

christianfgs said:
If you're running stock 4.3, disable Google currents. This is a tried and tested fix that should fix any choppiness.
If the problem still persists, follow what veeman said and try using other kernels
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Holy ****, why does this work as well as it does?! I use currents all the time on my N4 without issue but WOW what a difference it made uninstalling it on my N7.

3dawg said:
Holy ****, why does this work as well as it does?! I use currents all the time on my N4 without issue but WOW what a difference it made uninstalling it on my N7.
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Lol, thought they would have fixed that by now. I guess not.
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Just got a first gen 32gb model running 4.3 and it's just fine. I did go into Developer Options and turn off those silly 1x animation things to "off".
Might want to give that a try.

killa12222 said:
Disable Halo.
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how to disable halo?

helloterence said:
how to disable halo?
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Double tap and drag it to the X at the top. Halo is still buggy on 4.3.

If you have hundreds of apps installed, use Greenify. Sorry, root is req.
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revamper said:
Maybe you have filled the SD card too much. When the nexus has very low free space, it slows down significantly.
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Isn't this generally the same with all devices?
For example, completely fill up your computer's hard drive and test how laggy it is compared to when it had nothing but the OS installed.

Everyone in 4.4 using ART. Conclusion?

I feel like the device is much snappier. I heard battery is supposed to be better with it as well but I can't confirm. The xda app was never the best , now it is almost fluid o.o. or at least noticeably better. What do you have to say ?
i was told to add this:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/1qbko3/art_broken_apps/
edit: I would like to add that the apps i notice this most is for instance, when i use hangouts and i'd right ALOOOOOOOT with someone and then scroll up at a fast rate, it would stutter. Now, this stutter is nearly gone.
XDA - xda app is one of the most noticeable, stutter has been reduced by such a large margin that you'd have to try it yourself to believe it.
G+ would have the occasional hickup when scrolling through news posts. Next stop would be the play store, it used to stutter a lot as well, now it's become a lot better. Just for the hell of it i compared it to my sister's note 2 and the difference is there.
I doubt this is a placebo effect, i'm even considering to make a video as proof with dalvik on and off for the hell of it.
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I figured people will ask this question soon enough, so I'll just ask it now..
Does WhatsApp work?

No WhatsApp does not work. It is stated and asked on other threads.
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MameTozhio said:
I figured people will ask this question soon enough, so I'll just ask it now..
Does WhatsApp work?
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can't install

I tested it, system processes were failing, reverted back to 4.3... I tested the unofficial build from Paranoid Android then....
By the way, factory image for Nexus 4 is out, anyone tried it already? Any thoughts? Including ART?
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Please do not go off topic
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I'm using it.....a Lil snappier but noticeable... But a increase in battery life so far...everything seems so buttery... Hard to tell
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Oops wrong.

Albert62 said:
It sucks.
The Nexus doesn't even get the Nexus's 5 launcher. I don't see much difference. I'd call it 4.3.2
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someone posted this, i only have the link sadly so i can't give credits, thanks regardless.
https://mega.co.nz/#!EBIBFKpB!FoxEijz50FrcoBlSQXJG3wznJvpkqzbp936w1jk4J14
Paste that into your system lib/app and install the launcher app in the folder and voila: you've got it all.
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I tested it, system processes were failing, reverted back to 4.3... I tested the unofficial build from Paranoid Android then....
By the way, factory image for Nexus 4 is out, anyone tried it already? Any thoughts? Including ART?
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Well, it's kind of obvious, if you want the best experience for now you're going to want to go with the official 4.4, since the developers need their time to work their magic.
I have no crashes, i'm using ART so far cause i could care less about what's app. I'll report in about battery life observations once i've at least had this thing running for a whole day.

Feels really smooth so far; don't use any apps that crash(thankfully) on ART. Hard to tell with the battery as I came off a custom kernel that was picked for low power usage. Like with any new firmware, it usually takes a few days of my phone running before I can really judge things. Got to give all the apps running a little time to muck things up to get a solid feel for real world performance; but I'm hopeful from what the past few hours performance/battery wise.

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please stop going off topic, seriously
most apps feel smoother using ART, a few actually feels slower. but overall, things are a tad bit quicker. that said, ART still has some issues, and can feel buggy at times.

Ignasiuz said:
No WhatsApp does not work. It is stated and asked on other threads.
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I know that. I was just asking before other people did. Because it has been said in other threads as you've said, yet people still ask.
Anyway I really like ART. Better memory management it seems to have when using it, and feels snappier

simms22 said:
please stop going off topic, seriously
most apps feel smoother using ART, a few actually feels slower. but overall, things are a tad bit quicker. that said, ART still has some issues, and can feel buggy at times.
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Buggy? Were do you feel the bugs?
I'm not saying it is not buggy, I just want to know before I switch
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Just switched to art on today's stock KitKat after running art on nexus 5 port for a week. No stability issues and have 165 apps installed with no bugs. Battery life is improved by approximately 15% and performance is much quicker
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It's not worth the hassle in my opinion. I couldn't notice any tangible difference, performance-wise. I tried it on SlimKat, though. I may probably give it a second try now on stock but the whole idea of having non-working apps like Whatsapp and TiBu just takes the appealing away for now.

Could this just an elaborate hoax to test the placebo effect of Android optimization? I don't understand the true potential if it.
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Ignasiuz said:
Buggy? Were do you feel the bugs?
I'm not saying it is not buggy, I just want to know before I switch
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it just seems that with time, there develops slowdowns. like a far majority of the time i press the recents button and they pop open fast. but occasionally, it takes its time. like a few seconds. i only get that when using ART. im not knocking it, because i do enjoy playing with it. im just giving my experience

sorry for OT but whatsapp is working fine in the facory image,am i missing something?

gm007 said:
sorry for OT but whatsapp is working fine in the facory image,am i missing something?
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Did you switch to ART?

PoisonWolf said:
Did you switch to ART?
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sorry no my bad