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Anyone else feel like this?

http://mobilesyrup.com/2013/05/27/i-think-im-done-hacking-my-smartphones/
Skins were horrible, but I'm really liking what OEMs are doing now, this article literally took the words out of my mouth.
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From time to time you might feel like that. But it does not mean that you can't tamper with a phone, especially a nexus one.
Yes if I would buy an s4 the only thing that I would is root it just for the sake of TB.
But with the nexus you can do anything and is super easy to return to where you were.
And no counter or avoiding warranty by unlocking the bootloader you just need 3 words to lock or unlock it and of course a backup
I don't say you have to become a crack flasher but trying mods and roms will make you have a better perspective and even convince you that stock is better.
Anyway, everything is up to you.
You can always leave it at stock and wait for that much desired OTA.
Cheers mate
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I only flash custom ROM's and Kernels for performance, not so much additional features or looks.

No, I don't feel like this because I own a nexus device.

Kinda off topic question: what does everyone need titanium backup for? I always see people saying "the only reason I root is for TB", but why would you need to backup your apps if your not flashing Roms?
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lowrider262 said:
Kinda off topic question: what does everyone need titanium backup for? I always see people saying "the only reason I root is for TB", but why would you need to backup your apps if your not flashing Roms?
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You can uninstall or freeze system apps with tb.
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memetcan88 said:
You can uninstall or freeze system apps with tb.
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Oh, ok. I've been using root explorer to delete system apps for so long I forgot TB could do it too.
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Ice Cream Sandwich was the end of custom ROMs on the phone for me. I have CM on my N7, however, I feel it runs better. I always buy a phone and make it make me flash something else. Since the Galaxy Nexus, I have had no need to do this.
lowrider262 said:
Kinda off topic question: what does everyone need titanium backup for? I always see people saying "the only reason I root is for TB", but why would you need to backup your apps if your not flashing Roms?
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Agreed, it's circular logic. Especially now that game stats/etc will be saved so you can pick your phone or tablet up and still be at the same spot in the game.
memetcan88 said:
You can uninstall or freeze system apps with tb.
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You can disable system apps with the OS since ICS, too.

I love Flashing Hacking Modding all the good things that goes with owning a Nexus.. :good::good::good: But I don't go over the top... See my banner

crachel said:
Ice Cream Sandwich was the end of custom ROMs on the phone for me. I have CM on my N7, however, I feel it runs better.
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Agreed, Android has been closing the gap, if my current ROM/source wasn't available I'd happily rock stock.

I bought a nexus 4 because I love hacking, customizing and bricking my phone and all this stuff, I love it, no regrets, I dont want to go back to touchwiz and timescape...

If stock android had customizable notification toggles built-in I'd probably stay 100% stock. And yes I know there's apps on the market but Ive tried them & didn't like.
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This is why I own a Nexus 4.
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I stopped reading right here
There’s a reason that the HTC One benchmarks lower on CM10.1, despite running Android 4.2.2, than it does on Sense 5.0, which runs Android 4.1.2
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I used to feel like this. Back when I had a g2x I flashed because I HAD to frequently. Every ROM would inevitably become unstable and I would find myself looking for a new ROM to flash. Annoying as hell really. My n4 is rooted stock 4.2.2 w/ franco kernel for help with battery drain. I truly yearn for the day that I don't have to do anything to a phone. Not even root. Will the nexus line eventually come pre-rooted as well as unlocked? A man can dream can't he?
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I don't feel like I need to install a custom rom with this device. Tweaking it with a few mods gets me what I need. I still don't get why some refuse to mod the phone because they want to get the next ota update. Once it is released, all one has to do is flash a rooted version that should appear here within 24 hours.

lowrider262 said:
If stock android had customizable notification toggles built-in I'd probably stay 100% stock. And yes I know there's apps on the market but Ive tried them & didn't like.
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This and I want Google to give the option to unlink the bloody notification and call volume. I also want brightness slider in the notification or quick settings, dont understand why no one apart from Samsung considers the importance of the slider.
Oh and did I say battery percentage? While it's not exactly a deal breaker but still does not make any sense why stock android doesn't have it.
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uploder said:
I used to feel like this. Back when I had a g2x I flashed because I HAD to frequently. Every ROM would inevitably become unstable and I would find myself looking for a new ROM to flash. Annoying as hell really. My n4 is rooted stock 4.2.2 w/ franco kernel for help with battery drain. I truly yearn for the day that I don't have to do anything to a phone. Not even root. Will the nexus line eventually come pre-rooted as well as unlocked? A man can dream can't he?
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Oh man! A former G2x user... that also lives in Central NJ. Remember when we were waiting for the O2x ICS update? No HW acceleration or anything, it sucked.
I don't flash nearly as often as I used to like I did with my G2x. I stick with ROMs for much longer now. I'm happy with CM10.1

uploder said:
...Will the nexus line eventually come pre-rooted as well as unlocked? A man can dream can't he?
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I don't understand why it doesn't come pre-rooted. Just like enabling the Developer options, there should be some method needed to enable root, aside from the whole custom recovery custom root solution thing. Normal users aren't exposed directly to root, and power users who need root, can easily enable it. And... new users can root too without the need of those toolkits :good:

espionage724 said:
I don't understand why it doesn't come pre-rooted.
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Because it's a giant security hole..

(Mod) crossbreeder lag fix etc

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2113150
Saw it in a s3 forum and I flashed on mine . it isn't my work so please please please give the op credit/thanks/donations/hugs
Super good I never had my signal bars so full before and also fixes lag like crazy . make to download all zips just in case anything happens you never know .
This was flashed with aokpz unofficial on mako with stock kernel so you never know . suppose to help battery as well. We will see since its running so smooth now
Ohh PS.try it and report back thanks
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raidrom said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2113150
Saw it in a s3 forum and I flashed on mine . it isn't my work so please please please give the op credit/thanks/donations/hugs
Super good I never had my signal bars so full before and also fixes lag like crazy . make to download all zips just in case anything happens you never know .
This was flashed with aokpz unofficial on mako with stock kernel so you never know . suppose to help battery as well. We will see since its running so smooth now
Ohh PS.try it and report back thanks
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i took a liberty to look inside the zip that you flashed.. when you have issues later on(random reboots, etc. theres lots of potential for conflict in that zip), just reflash your rom(and gapps), no need to wipe.

simms22 said:
i took a liberty to look inside the zip that you flashed.. when you have issues later on(random reboots, etc. theres lots of potential for conflict in that zip), just reflash your rom(and gapps), no need to wipe.
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I know . but he has a revert zip and also one in case it doesn't book . I use thought cause with each nightly I deleted 18 apps out of the system/app and only have 76 total between that and data/app
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I heard crossbreeder works better, Although I haven't tested it out myself.

tarroyo said:
I heard crossbreeder works better, Although I haven't tested it out myself.
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Do it its awesome
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All these lag eradicating solutions might do more harm than good. The better solution is to try a custom kernel or tomorrow rather than toy with these less than technically fundamented placebos.
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drakester09 said:
All these lag eradicating solutions might do more harm than good. The better solution is to try a custom kernel or tomorrow rather than toy with these less than technically fundamented placebos.
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Did you research what was done before you posted ? Or was this just a negative lashout for no apparent reason ?
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raidrom said:
Did you research what was done before you posted ? Or was this just a negative lashout for no apparent reason ?
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The former, I saw it too when I had an S3. I read it before.
It's less damaging to your battery life compared to Seeder and less placebo than supercharger but it's more intrusive and it messes around with this that are not the source of lags/issues
Most likely it keeps i/o or cpu less in idle state so it performs better, but has a cost in the long run.
Kernels are a much better approach and frankly I had zero lag issues with this phone.
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jfi .....kernels mess with governor settings too.

I have the Octa S4 and I have flashed this too, I am using one older version though but it does indeed make your phone somewhat a lot smoother, animation and scrolling, but i'm selling the S4 and returning back to Nexus (S4 Price = Nexus 4 + Nexus 7 Second Gen (?))

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today cyanogenmod team released a cm10.2 nightly for our device.
Here's the link:
HTML:
http://get.cm/?device=grouper
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Edit : Devs have created official thread on original development....
For more information u can refer to the official thread.
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2412233

do we need to install/flash gapps for this?

akerocks said:
do we need to install/flash gapps for this?
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Yes. I recommend wiping system and data as well. You can find gapps as usual at http://goo.im/gapps
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I've just flashed the new cm10.2 nightly.
At the moment i can say it's pretty good, even though i've an issue with Trebuchet which crashes when i open a directory (not important, and surely it will be fixed).
One thing i don't like is the background in Settings app (and all applications that uses Hardware Acceleration) which is filled by stripes (this hasn't happened on stock 4.3 as far as i remember).
Said this, i'm happy to come back cyanogenmod

carlo93 said:
One thing i don't like is the background in Settings app (and all applications that uses Hardware Acceleration) which is filled by stripes (this hasn't happened on stock 4.3 as far as i remember).
Said this, i'm happy to come back cyanogenmod
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I've always had stripes/banding on my Nexus 7 with any ROM. I don't notice it anymore now now that I've had it for a few months, but when I first got it the banding literally hurt my eyes to look at them because they were incredibly obvious. I had a Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 previously, the screen was worse and has less resolution, but it had smooth gradients and no banding.

FRiC_xda said:
I've always had stripes/banding on my Nexus 7 with any ROM. I don't notice it anymore now now that I've had it for a few months, but when I first got it the banding literally hurt my eyes to look at them because they were incredibly obvious. I had a Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 previously, the screen was worse and has less resolution, but it had smooth gradients and no banding.
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The first time i noticed the stripes, i was using android 4.2 .
The background gradient was drawn by using some xml files in framework-res.apk which cause the banding. And there was a fix i never tried.
As far as i know, it should have been fixed in 4.3 and in fact i couldn't notice it in stock rom...
i don't know, maybe some new android changes in cyanogenmod source wasn't merged?

i am also having issues opening a folder-- trebuchet will crash. i hope they can fix this soon because i rely on folders very much.

akerocks said:
i am also having issues opening a folder-- trebuchet will crash. i hope they can fix this soon because i rely on folders very much.
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Can't you just use a different launcher????
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androidkid311 said:
Can't you just use a different launcher????
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I will not use a different launcher because that would defeat the purpose of installing cm10.2. But I did install a third party app for it. but then again, it would be so much nice that the folder thingy shouldn't have any issues.

akerocks said:
I will not use a different launcher because that would defeat the purpose of installing cm10.2.
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please explain

r-l said:
please explain
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because to me, installing cm10.2 is installing trebuchet. so, if i am not going to be able to use trebuchet then i might as well not install cm10.2. well nuff about that. btw, they have another nightly update, but the issues i am having are still not resolved.

akerocks said:
because to me, installing cm10.2 is installing trebuchet. so, if i am not going to be able to use trebuchet then i might as well not install cm10.2. well nuff about that. btw, they have another nightly update, but the issues i am having are still not resolved.
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ifyou use nova or apex you're still using cm10.2 .. I never use trebuchet because i think it's no good

r-l said:
ifyou use nova or apex you're still using cm10.2 .. I never use trebuchet because i think it's no good
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I think it comes down to each of our own preference.

akerocks said:
I think it comes down to each of our own preference.
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report the bug to cm. Until then you can flash every nightly hoping that bug has been smashed.
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Trebuchet is nice and all and I prefer it but for real if you don't like it there's a million launchers. I would suggest Nova.
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BlackFire27 said:
Trebuchet is nice and all and I prefer it but for real if you don't like it there's a million launchers. I would suggest Nova.
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Nova is laggy at the moment (for me). Apex is smooher. Bought them both a long time ago, so i can switch

hawkeye29 said:
report the bug to cm. Until then you can flash every nightly hoping that bug has been smashed.
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Guess what, the issues I was having (opening a folder will crash trebuchet and upside down camera image in focal) were all fixed with the latest nightly. Running smooth with m-kernel.

Can't seem to load the Play Store after installing the latest nightly.

In last nightly lockscreen can't rotate!

U all can now post the bugs and quarries on the official thread here(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2412233)
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Building CM11 for SPH-L720

EDIT:
CM11 is definitely here on the jfltespr now, If you are looking for it-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2528651
Built by me. Enjoy!

First! Can't wait to try this out.
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I cant wait till this comes out

Would love to try out KitKat
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Here ya go homies, loads fine and ran it all day. I'm also on the newest modem and the 11/13 build everything works. Just missing all the good CM stuff.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/unofficial-cm/files/Nightlies/

The latest build everything works besides headphones and ART kills root... Plug in headphones and the system will hang up and reboot when listening to any type of audio its a really crazy bug and ART kills root everything gets denied

skyyrocket said:
The latest build everything works besides headphones and ART kills root... Plug in headphones and the system will hang up and reboot when listening to any type of audio its a really crazy bug and ART kills root everything gets denied
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Can u tell me which gapps u used?
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Is there a GAPPS package needed for this?..
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rtwrobert10 said:
Is there a GAPPS package needed for this?..
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I used gapps from this forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2397942&page=67
Everything seems to run really well. I used full but modular should work too
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@Willie68wr I used P.A Gapps 4.4.x latest version http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2397942&page=67

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@Willie68wr I used P.A Gapps 4.4.x latest version http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2397942&page=67
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Gonna try it out after work... Good looking out
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skyyrocket said:
The latest build everything works besides headphones and ART kills root... Plug in headphones and the system will hang up and reboot when listening to any type of audio its a really crazy bug and ART kills root everything gets denied
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Regarding those bugs with the rom, do you know if they'll be resolved on a next build?
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gottria said:
Here ya go homies, loads fine and ran it all day. I'm also on the newest modem and the 11/13 build everything works. Just missing all the good CM stuff.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/unofficial-cm/files/Nightlies/
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gottria, did your data work out of the box or did it take any coersion? I'm on 11/13 and on the newest modem but no data. wifi works fine, flashed KT kernel but all that did was make my back/menu/volume buttons work, and made my sd card not read... everything else works just fine.

@Willie68wr Not sure yet I really want to go back on CM 11 because its soo smooth and fluid but Netflix for some reason there's a rendering issue cause like a greyish tint over the bottom part of the movies thats the killer for me. The headphone bug and ART bug is not a issue its the netflix Bug lol I watch a lot of movies on my S4

skyyrocket said:
@Willie68wr Not sure yet I really want to go back on CM 11 because its soo smooth and fluid but Netflix for some reason there's a rendering issue cause like a greyish tint over the bottom part of the movies thats the killer for me. The headphone bug and ART bug is not a issue its the netflix Bug lol I watch a lot of movies on my S4
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Hahaha cool, have you tried running it with ktoonsez kernel? The guy that posted before you said that it makes his SD card unreadable. That's the kernel that I always like to use and hope that it works.
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gottria said:
Here ya go homies, loads fine and ran it all day. I'm also on the newest modem and the 11/13 build everything works. Just missing all the good CM stuff.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/unofficial-cm/files/Nightlies/
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Can u tell me what good CM stuff is missing?
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Willie68wr said:
Can u tell me what good CM stuff is missing?
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Pretty much everything. Its basically a barebones AOSP rom, for the most part.

kiekan said:
Pretty much everything. Its basically a barebones AOSP rom, for the most part.
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Is that a good thing lol
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skyyrocket said:
@Willie68wr Not sure yet I really want to go back on CM 11 because its soo smooth and fluid but Netflix for some reason there's a rendering issue cause like a greyish tint over the bottom part of the movies thats the killer for me. The headphone bug and ART bug is not a issue its the netflix Bug lol I watch a lot of movies on my S4
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I've got this same bug with Netflix. But as far as headphone bug, I haven't had any using my headphones. I've been listening to music all day with my headphones and no bugs have occurred. Can we expect nightly experimental builds? I was checking out the site the builds are on and most were posted nightly, will the same be happening for this one to?
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Been running this for a day now and have had no issues. Used Banks' gapps package and came from CM 10.2. No data issues, haven't tried using headphones though.
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the1000ydstare said:
I've got this same bug with Netflix. But as far as headphone bug, I haven't had any using my headphones. I've been listening to music all day with my headphones and no bugs have occurred. Can we expect nightly experimental builds? I was checking out the site the builds are on and most were posted nightly, will the same be happening for this one to?
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Just flashed it and get a failed,tried it twice

Everyone in 4.4 using ART. Conclusion?

I feel like the device is much snappier. I heard battery is supposed to be better with it as well but I can't confirm. The xda app was never the best , now it is almost fluid o.o. or at least noticeably better. What do you have to say ?
i was told to add this:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/1qbko3/art_broken_apps/
edit: I would like to add that the apps i notice this most is for instance, when i use hangouts and i'd right ALOOOOOOOT with someone and then scroll up at a fast rate, it would stutter. Now, this stutter is nearly gone.
XDA - xda app is one of the most noticeable, stutter has been reduced by such a large margin that you'd have to try it yourself to believe it.
G+ would have the occasional hickup when scrolling through news posts. Next stop would be the play store, it used to stutter a lot as well, now it's become a lot better. Just for the hell of it i compared it to my sister's note 2 and the difference is there.
I doubt this is a placebo effect, i'm even considering to make a video as proof with dalvik on and off for the hell of it.
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I figured people will ask this question soon enough, so I'll just ask it now..
Does WhatsApp work?

No WhatsApp does not work. It is stated and asked on other threads.
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MameTozhio said:
I figured people will ask this question soon enough, so I'll just ask it now..
Does WhatsApp work?
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can't install

I tested it, system processes were failing, reverted back to 4.3... I tested the unofficial build from Paranoid Android then....
By the way, factory image for Nexus 4 is out, anyone tried it already? Any thoughts? Including ART?
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Please do not go off topic
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I'm using it.....a Lil snappier but noticeable... But a increase in battery life so far...everything seems so buttery... Hard to tell
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Oops wrong.

Albert62 said:
It sucks.
The Nexus doesn't even get the Nexus's 5 launcher. I don't see much difference. I'd call it 4.3.2
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someone posted this, i only have the link sadly so i can't give credits, thanks regardless.
https://mega.co.nz/#!EBIBFKpB!FoxEijz50FrcoBlSQXJG3wznJvpkqzbp936w1jk4J14
Paste that into your system lib/app and install the launcher app in the folder and voila: you've got it all.
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I tested it, system processes were failing, reverted back to 4.3... I tested the unofficial build from Paranoid Android then....
By the way, factory image for Nexus 4 is out, anyone tried it already? Any thoughts? Including ART?
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Well, it's kind of obvious, if you want the best experience for now you're going to want to go with the official 4.4, since the developers need their time to work their magic.
I have no crashes, i'm using ART so far cause i could care less about what's app. I'll report in about battery life observations once i've at least had this thing running for a whole day.

Feels really smooth so far; don't use any apps that crash(thankfully) on ART. Hard to tell with the battery as I came off a custom kernel that was picked for low power usage. Like with any new firmware, it usually takes a few days of my phone running before I can really judge things. Got to give all the apps running a little time to muck things up to get a solid feel for real world performance; but I'm hopeful from what the past few hours performance/battery wise.

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Please do not go off topic
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please stop going off topic, seriously
most apps feel smoother using ART, a few actually feels slower. but overall, things are a tad bit quicker. that said, ART still has some issues, and can feel buggy at times.

Ignasiuz said:
No WhatsApp does not work. It is stated and asked on other threads.
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I know that. I was just asking before other people did. Because it has been said in other threads as you've said, yet people still ask.
Anyway I really like ART. Better memory management it seems to have when using it, and feels snappier

simms22 said:
please stop going off topic, seriously
most apps feel smoother using ART, a few actually feels slower. but overall, things are a tad bit quicker. that said, ART still has some issues, and can feel buggy at times.
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Buggy? Were do you feel the bugs?
I'm not saying it is not buggy, I just want to know before I switch
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Just switched to art on today's stock KitKat after running art on nexus 5 port for a week. No stability issues and have 165 apps installed with no bugs. Battery life is improved by approximately 15% and performance is much quicker
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It's not worth the hassle in my opinion. I couldn't notice any tangible difference, performance-wise. I tried it on SlimKat, though. I may probably give it a second try now on stock but the whole idea of having non-working apps like Whatsapp and TiBu just takes the appealing away for now.

Could this just an elaborate hoax to test the placebo effect of Android optimization? I don't understand the true potential if it.
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Ignasiuz said:
Buggy? Were do you feel the bugs?
I'm not saying it is not buggy, I just want to know before I switch
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it just seems that with time, there develops slowdowns. like a far majority of the time i press the recents button and they pop open fast. but occasionally, it takes its time. like a few seconds. i only get that when using ART. im not knocking it, because i do enjoy playing with it. im just giving my experience

sorry for OT but whatsapp is working fine in the facory image,am i missing something?

gm007 said:
sorry for OT but whatsapp is working fine in the facory image,am i missing something?
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Did you switch to ART?

PoisonWolf said:
Did you switch to ART?
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sorry no my bad