Hello!
Let me just say I have been long overdue with registering here. I have been looking for help threads here for about 6 months on my Galaxy S3 phone and other questions. Awesome forum and really loving it.
And also, if this question is somehow "overdone" (I can see it being a question at a regular basis) OR posted in the wrong forum. Then sorry! I am however very thankful for a reply to it, and if this thread needs to be moved then go ahead. (And if it needs to be taken down, I would be very thankful for a reply)
I installed a custom rom on my Samsung Galaxy S3 i9305N a while back. First I used clockworkmod to fix a loader, rooted and all that stuff. Then I installed the only Cyanogenmod I could find. (It wasn't an officially supported one at the time, I have no idea how that rom is doing now however)
I then reformatted everything to the original loader and rom. It looks mostly the same as it did before, but with some new features.
However, I need to send the phone to repair. The battery is defect and the charger seems to drain its battery.
A phone support guy that I know, told me that it is possible to see a "history" on all the roms and roots and etc, that has been done to the phone. In order to make sure that nobody reloads the warranty Rom and sends it off to repair. Is this true?
If so, how can I fix this? Is there any way to just reboot the phones so called history? Or did he just tell me this to scare me off?
Is there any way I can test my Samsung if it is eligable for warranty, without sending it off to their repair? (And do they check all phones for custom roms?)
Thanks for any help! Sorry for the LONG thread.
I am not that good with computers and programming. Could be worth mentionning! I managed to load the rom through tutorials, that's it. =P
Go to the How TO post in General section Basic stickies and faqs .
How to revert to stock for warranty .
jje
JJEgan said:
Go to the How TO post in General section Basic stickies and faqs .
How to revert to stock for warranty .
jje
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Thanks for the reply, but where in the general forum can I find this guide?
Edit: also How do I hide any possible traces of having had a custom rom? Thanks for any help.. Or URLs with help!
Fine
Hi..don't worry asking as long as you have stock ROM and zero flash counter and stock kernel..I did the same sent phone off and received phone back within week..good luck...
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Thanks for the reply, but where in the general forum can I find this guide?
No idea i have no search engine .
jje
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I guess this is what you searching for... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1710613 :thumbup:
Hope it will answer your questions!
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Christian1981 said:
I guess this is what you searching for... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1710613 :thumbup:
Hope it will answer your questions!
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Thank you very very much!
In fact, thanks to all good replies. The triangle thing was what I was looking for! I am a total rookie but I feel as though I learned quite a lot. Perhaps I should root my new phone now. "Haha".
No but, I actually got one question.
How do I know if it really is my official rom? I read somewhere, that every telephone-operator has their own Rom. So just picking one of the Roms might not work?
How do I know if the source is correct? I'm a bit concerned that I might format the phone, send it in, and they notice that I flashed with the wrong Stock Rom.
I have a Galaxy S3 i9305N with the operator Tele2 in Sweden. Sammobile.com has 3 stock Roms available (One only for members though) Which one is correct? Or does it not matter?
Thanks for any help again.
Many apologies if I am a bad googler. This is one of my first issues I have never been able to Google my way out of ;P
EDIT:
GT-I9305N Sweden 2013 March I9305NXXBMC2 I9305NCOVBMC2
GT-I9305N Nordic countries 2013 January 4.1.2 I9305NXXBMA2 I9305NNEEBMA2
GT-I9305N Sweden 2012 September 4.1.1 I9305NXXALIA I9305NCOVALI7
Those three are my result. How do I know which one I should go with?
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I was looking around a bit. I think the right one would be 2013 March (Top) right? Thing is, I find another one through a Swedish forum with a thread just like this one.. and it puzzles me what to pick. Does it matter at all? I used the one from the Swedish thread a while back, and I noticed it differed a bit from the Rom I had on the phone from purchase... Is it best to go with one from Sammobile? (And if so, which one.. )
Okay my friend! I checked it out...
On http://samsung-updates.com/device/?id=GT-I9305N are only 3 firmwares for the I9305N
BMC2 is for Sweden and 4.2.1
BMA2 is for Finland and also 4.2.1 but
ALIA is for Sweden an 4.1.1!
Now is the question with which firmware your phone was coming?
I guess, my friend, I don't know the answer... you could try each firmware...
I'm sorry, I really don't know!
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Christian1981 said:
Okay my friend! I checked it out...
On http://samsung-updates.com/device/?id=GT-I9305N are only 3 firmwares for the I9305N
BMC2 is for Sweden and 4.2.1
BMA2 is for Finland and also 4.2.1 but
ALIA is for Sweden an 4.1.1!
Now is the question with which firmware your phone was coming?
I guess, my friend, I don't know the answer... you could try each firmware...
I'm sorry, I really don't know!
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From what provider did you buy the phone (after you know that search the internet for the firmwares it provides to your phone).You only need to search a bit then you will find the rom you need. Gl.
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Hello all,
I've been reading and downloading from xda for over a year now (sgs- darky's rom mainly), and this is my FIRST POST!
I know i can find my answer just by looking but i really wanted to post for the first time so here's my question- My tab is in the post (got it from ebay as i'm a pauper and can't afford it new, or the 8.9 or 10.1) and obviously want to root it straight away. I've seen that some are using z4 root but my sgs won't accept this method, can i be sure it'll work?
take care fellow "tabbers"
PS the doorbell just rang and it's here! *wets pants and logs off*
What firmware version is it on? Please post complete information from *#1234#
until we know that we cannot advice you.....
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What firmware version is it on? Please post complete information from *#1234#
until we know that we cannot advice you.....
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it's 2.2 froyo build number FROYO.XWJJ7
baseband P1000XXJK5
KERNEL 2.6.32.9 [email protected] #1
PDA- P1000XWJJ7
PHONE- P1000XXJK5
CSC- P1000CPWJJ5
I need to get gingerbread (at least) on this thing straight away! Or any cool roms you can recommend?
How do i find out if it's GSM or CDMA? i'm in the UK... That is probably a really stupid question, but i'm a stupid guy... A stupid guy who loves android and wants to learn more!
Any links to the right places would be really appreciated
First you're not stupid. You're just new and learning.
Second your tab judging by its firmware is gsm european tab.
Third you can root using superoneclick root.
Fourth. Head to the development section and you will find alot of great roms (or click on my sig if you're interested in overcome). JUST BE SURE TO READ ENTIRE GUIDES AND STUDY THEM BEFORE FLASHING ANYTHING.
DarkPal said:
JUST BE SURE TO READ ENTIRE GUIDES AND STUDY THEM BEFORE FLASHING ANYTHING.
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+100000000000000 (I'd keep my finger depressed on the 0 key longer, but you get the point)
So many people get themselves into trouble by not reading instructions or skipping ahead.
Easy to get yourself into trouble, can be VERY hard getting out...
Thank you for all the help, most kind I'm at work now so will try some bits tomorrow, managed to get rooted before leaving tho
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Your tab is rooted already. Look at the kernal version. In your apps you will see something called Superuser. Tap it. If its there and opens you are rooted.
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Your tab is rooted already. Look at the kernal version. In your apps you will see something called Superuser. Tap it. If its there and opens you are rooted.
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That's what really confused me, the kernel said root on it, but no super user was there and none of my purchased root apps could aquire root.... so I used super one click as advised and hey presto! Still confused as to why it said that on my kernel tho...
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Someone tried to return the tab to stock. The busybox was probably there too. Anyway, you are good now. What's next?
Resolve the signed bootloader with chainfire patch
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Thanks all, I installed the overcome gold rom last night and all is well
Just out of interest as i'm un-learned, how can you tell if the bootloader is signed? (As far as I can tell) it hasn't affected the rom installation... could it?
Thanks all for the support!
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locked bootloader? read here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=888071
Hi all, have been searching the net and these forums but so far, not come up with a result.
I have a galaxy mini as my spare phone and rooted it when I got it. I then managed to semi brick it and bring it back to life but the only firmware I was able to get on there was the Carphone Warehouse one.
I'm on Three UK and the phone is locked to three. What I would like is to be able to get the official three firmware back on the phone but the only one I found was an old froyo one which didn't work for some reason when I tried flashing with Odin. It got just to the end of the download part but didn't actually flash beyond that point and the phone wouldn't boot etc etc so that's when I resorted to the CPW firmware.
As I am having some issues with the phone, that's why I would like to be able to get it back to completely three firmware as I suspect my problems are down to the wrong one.
Sorry to be long winded and sincere apologies if the answer is already here somewhere but I really cannot find it.
Thank you in advance.
Alison
Have u tried looking in sammobile.com?
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chepoz said:
Have u tried looking in sammobile.com?
Dikirim dari WT19i gue pake xda premium
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I have yes. I've looked all over, can't find anything. I did find one for 2.3.4 for three uk but unfortunately when I clicked on the link, the file had been removed. Can't remember if that was a link on SamMobile or another site now though.
Alison
hazi1964 said:
Hi all, have been searching the net and these forums but so far, not come up with a result.
I have a galaxy mini as my spare phone and rooted it when I got it. I then managed to semi brick it and bring it back to life but the only firmware I was able to get on there was the Carphone Warehouse one.
I'm on Three UK and the phone is locked to three. What I would like is to be able to get the official three firmware back on the phone but the only one I found was an old froyo one which didn't work for some reason when I tried flashing with Odin. It got just to the end of the download part but didn't actually flash beyond that point and the phone wouldn't boot etc etc so that's when I resorted to the CPW firmware.
As I am having some issues with the phone, that's why I would like to be able to get it back to completely three firmware as I suspect my problems are down to the wrong one.
Sorry to be long winded and sincere apologies if the answer is already here somewhere but I really cannot find it.
Thank you in advance.
Alison
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You have been looking at the wrong pace the whole time : try looking at http://yagyagaire.blogspot.com
OR,
Follow this direct link http://yagyagaire.blogspot.com/2012/01/official-samsung-firmwares.html
Thank you so much, you're a star. Now to download what I need.
Alison
Oh dear, it appears the only gingerbread rom for three is Italy and I'm uk. The uk one listed is the froyo one that I have already tried. Will download it again and try it but don't think it will be any different to before.
What a shame. Wonder why there isn't a gingerbread one for three uk when there is for Italy.
Thanks for trying though, I do appreciate it.
Aliso
ya me too, need one for 3 for UK, the gingerbread ver 2.3.5
can we get that from anywhere?
HI Guys,
I have purchased a Samsung Galaxy Note n7000 (unlocked version).
It is currently running Android OS: 2.3.6
Baseband: N7000XXLA4
Kernel: 2.6.35.7-N7000XXLA6-CL907341
[email protected]#2
Build Number: GINGERBREAD.XXLA6
Network currently being used: o2 UK.
Now I have tried to update the phone over Wifi to get the latest ICS update, with No luck =(...... I have downloaded and updated to the latest Kies Version and still No luck. Now I have scooted about on the internet and have found so many different articles as to when it will or might be realeased and apparently I should have access to the ICS update by now. THE QUESTION IS: Why cant I upgrade to ICS?????.... and if not, can somone Please be so kind to send me the links to the ROM instructions so I can get this little baby rocking and rolling with the Ice cream sandwitch goodness.
NOTE: I have Rooted and put a custom ROM on my Motorola XOOM tablet so I am not to affraid to get my hands dirty with ROM's. I could do with some instructions that would go through it again to remind me, I just need to find the right ROM so I do not brick it.
Many Thanks guys!!!
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HI Guys,
I have purchased a Samsung Galaxy Note n7000 (unlocked version).
It is currently running Android OS: 2.3.6
Baseband: N7000XXLA4
Kernel: 2.6.35.7-N7000XXLA6-CL907341
[email protected]#2
Build Number: GINGERBREAD.XXLA6
Network currently being used: o2 UK.
Now I have tried to update the phone over Wifi to get the latest ICS update, with No luck =(...... I have downloaded and updated to the latest Kies Version and still No luck. Now I have scooted about on the internet and have found so many different articles as to when it will or might be realeased and apparently I should have access to the ICS update by now. THE QUESTION IS: Why cant I upgrade to ICS?????.... and if not, can somone Please be so kind to send me the links to the ROM instructions so I can get this little baby rocking and rolling with the Ice cream sandwitch goodness.
NOTE: I have Rooted and put a custom ROM on my Motorola XOOM tablet so I am not to affraid to get my hands dirty with ROM's. I could do with some instructions that would go through it again to remind me, I just need to find the right ROM so I do not brick it.
Many Thanks guys!!!
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You cannot update to something that doesn't exist yet.
chasmodo said:
You cannot update to something that doesn't exist yet.
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So there is still no ICS update for the N7000!???!???
No.
trolololololololol
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BikerJake2012 said:
So there is still no ICS update for the N7000!???!???
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You look so new about ics on this device. Read the sticky thread in general forum and u will know more.
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BikerJake2012 said:
HI Guys,
I have purchased a Samsung Galaxy Note n7000 (unlocked version).
It is currently running Android OS: 2.3.6
Baseband: N7000XXLA4
Kernel: 2.6.35.7-N7000XXLA6-CL907341
[email protected]#2
Build Number: GINGERBREAD.XXLA6
Network currently being used: o2 UK.
Now I have tried to update the phone over Wifi to get the latest ICS update, with No luck =(...... I have downloaded and updated to the latest Kies Version and still No luck. Now I have scooted about on the internet and have found so many different articles as to when it will or might be realeased and apparently I should have access to the ICS update by now. THE QUESTION IS: Why cant I upgrade to ICS?????.... and if not, can somone Please be so kind to send me the links to the ROM instructions so I can get this little baby rocking and rolling with the Ice cream sandwitch goodness.
NOTE: I have Rooted and put a custom ROM on my Motorola XOOM tablet so I am not to affraid to get my hands dirty with ROM's. I could do with some instructions that would go through it again to remind me, I just need to find the right ROM so I do not brick it.
Many Thanks guys!!!
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Look in the general section for the Cyanogen Mod 9 Discussion, download the latest build and follow the flashing instructions and you will end up with Android 4.0.4 ICS, its not official, its not touchwiz, but hey who needs that when there are great alternatives to everything samsung provide.
Just remember to read the instructions (more than once) and avoid flashing from any other ICS based rom.
Enjoy the ICS goodness.
and this is the reason people need to learn to do some research for themselves
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and this is the reason people need to learn to do some research for themselves
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How about calm down and jump off your high horse for one moment.
First, I HAVE done research!, the only reason I asked is due to how quickly things can change with Android ROMs.
Second, Is this how you treat new people instantly with ignorance?.
I thought the Xda developers forum Is a place for people to work together, NOT a place for Troll keyboard warriors......
BTW Thank to the other guy who actualy answered my question with a normal response!
Your welcome.
I do agree that you could have found this information out with some searching but hey, we all miss things sometimes so its no big issue to me. Also feel free to use the thanks button under my post to say thank you
have a good day.
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How about calm down and jump off your high horse for one moment.
First, I HAVE done research!, the only reason I asked is due to how quickly things can change with Android ROMs.
Second, Is this how you treat new people instantly with ignorance?.
I thought the Xda developers forum Is a place for people to work together, NOT a place for Troll keyboard warriors......
BTW Thank to the other guy who actualy answered my question with a normal response!
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I think at the end of the day its not a personal attack at you or anything but just people getting fed up with people not reading the sticked threads and looking before posting, its not just you alot of people do this sort of thing. And trust me the second ICS is downloadable there will be 1000+ threads in the general section saying so.
For info on what xda 'is' see this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16682226&postcount=2441
BikerJake2012 said:
How about calm down and jump off your high horse for one moment.
First, I HAVE done research!, the only reason I asked is due to how quickly things can change with Android ROMs.
Second, Is this how you treat new people instantly with ignorance?.
I thought the Xda developers forum Is a place for people to work together, NOT a place for Troll keyboard warriors......
BTW Thank to the other guy who actualy answered my question with a normal response!
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i see you took a general comment personally, thats not my issue, if you had done your research you would know that ics isnt available via an update
come on guys .. he is new .. he will take some time to get there. We all did
you already got the answer by now.. There is no Samsung official ICS for Note.
As for Custom, there are a lot of options in the Development section.
Follow the instructions to the line and not just follow them but understand them before you proceed.
I hear that CM9 is the best so far.. but i see more patches adding to it on a daily basis to improve it more and more.
As of me .. am on Stunner ICS.. lot of FC's for now .. but a good build.
BikerJake2012 said:
How about calm down and jump off your high horse for one moment.
First, I HAVE done research!, the only reason I asked is due to how quickly things can change with Android ROMs.
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No, you didn't do "research" - you logged in and typed a stupid question. It is people like you that make this forum almost impossible to find important info - lazy fools who think it is everyone else's job to read the posts and explain them. See my post count? It is not very high. You know why? Because I READ.
Your indignation falls on deaf ears.
Hi,
I have the same device but on Orange (UK).
I also am awaiting the android 4 (ICS) and i have spoken to both Samsung and my network. Their responses are varied, but it is generally the same as other news updates and that is "ICS will be scheduled for release during spring but some networks could be later due to their own testing regimes. The Galaxy s2 has just received the update, the note shouldnt be to far behind".
Another option is to goto facebook and search "samsung mobile uk" and watch the news there, as theyll post on that page once networks release it.
So contrary to popular belief, ics is coming, it does exist (a american AT&T handset in the usa has been spotted with the official build) but it isnt available for general release yet.
Thanks,
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Ignaty said:
it does exist (a american AT&T handset in the usa has been spotted with the official build)
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I717 aka AT&T Note is a completely different device from our Note, they just share the same name.
So, the fact that they already have ICS means nothing for us here.
chasmodo said:
I717 aka AT&T Note is a completely different device from our Note, they just share the same name.
So, the fact that they already have ICS means nothing for us here.
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Hi,
judging by the specifications on both devices (UK and USA), the differences are limited to storage and processor. the rest of them are just optional differences that make no real difference apart data bandwidths/frequencies etc.
The handsets look the same, work the same, 95% the same hardware wise.
The i7i7 has a Dual Core 1.5 scorpion chip set and the N700 has the dual core 1.4 ARM cortex a9. that is probably the most distinctive and most noticeable difference.
I know that the chipset determines alot of the efficiency and manner inwhich the phone reacts. but considering the chipsets vary between the Galaxy s2 and say, the HTC X one. Both chipsets vastly different, both running ICS, Both sides of the atlantic. I think that American Note running it, and us not yet due to sharing a name only is not the best reply. same as I am sure there are similar differences between the S2 for Asia, and the S2 for Europe and the USA. Yet I think they already have or are getting ICS too.
I hold out hope that we will receive the update soon enough. Once samsung sign it off for the device, it gets passed to the network operators who then in turn rigorously test the device with the new update before deciding to distribute or pursue changes.
It is happening, just wish it would hurry the hell up.
If you really want to see how vastly different they are, pop over to AT&T forum
and try to flash one of their Roms. Come back and tell us how it went.
Different processors equals completely different kernels and drivers. Tell me how
that doesn't equal to different phones, please.
Just saw this on tech news on my flipboard. Available for n7000 and i7i7 according to the news. Say what? *moonwalks out of the room*
Just need it to filter through now
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ICS has been released for note finally....herehttp://www.sammobile.com/firmware/?page=3&t=1&o=1&m=GT-N7000&r=1#regiona
Well unlike many NEW users , I have a long road to follow and anyone who uses Android knows theres many well traveled roads ,so which one to follow? Well my suggestion is this READ,READ,READ ! You have to read them all if your interested in knowing , if you just want "it done and done now" well you'll find resistence in XDA ,this is in fact a Developers forum (I for one am very happy they are here!)
I havent even read an article yet in the dev section of this phone , I have lots more in here before I can even think of going there . Yes I already updtated to ICS from stock reset 2.3.6 , already have recovery and root (a must have in any Android ) but I wont go custom rom just yet , theres just too much to learn in this forum before I do that , mainly battery consumption and apps "inside" running that need to be trimmed!
Thank you to all the Devs! This phone rocks!
I am running Straight talk have all the features and everything works
What is a smasung
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so ................ ?
Vintage144 said:
Well unlike many NEW users , I have a long road to follow and anyone who uses Android knows theres many well traveled roads ,so which one to follow? Well my suggestion is this READ,READ,READ ! You have to read them all if your interested in knowing , if you just want "it done and done now" well you'll find resistence in XDA ,this is in fact a Developers forum (I for one am very happy they are here!)
I havent even read an article yet in the dev section of this phone , I have lots more in here before I can even think of going there . Yes I already updtated to ICS from stock reset 2.3.6 , already have recovery and root (a must have in any Android ) but I wont go custom rom just yet , theres just too much to learn in this forum before I do that , mainly battery consumption and apps "inside" running that need to be trimmed!
Thank you to all the Devs! This phone rocks!
I am running Straight talk have all the features and everything works
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So..is this a question? Or an answer? Or both??
asf58967 said:
What is a smasung
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Seems like he is too new to Samsung and yet to be familiar with the name! ;D
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So..is this a question? Or an answer? Or both??
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The OP apparently thinks this is Facebook and is updating us on his activities and fresh thoughts.
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The OP apparently thinks this is Facebook and is updating us on his activities and fresh thoughts.
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So did you hit "like"?
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Hi guys,
I used galaxy s and now im planing to buy galaxy s3 lte so i have read about custom roms, coz im loving customize the rom
But i went through the forms i was really disappointed about the 4.3 update and knox thing
So im really need good answers for my question coz im in complex coz i read lot about knox..
1) is there any way to flash 4.3 virsion to i9305 without knox if i coming from 4.1?? ( yes without any problem)
2) If i dont care about the waranty can i use all custom rom (4.3<) with knox ? And can i revert back to 4.3 stock FW?
Please guys try give to good answers.. Coz i have limited money and i have to get good phone what i like please help me..
Thanks regards
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2624356
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2569349
JJEgan said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2624356
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2569349
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Thanks friend i read those.. Still im complex. Im expecting direct answers for my question can someone?????
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1Ishara said:
Thanks friend i read those.. Still im complex. Im expecting direct answers for my question can someone?????
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When in 4.1.2 root your phone, after root flash the custom rom 4.3 you will not have the new bootlaoder and will not have issues on knox things.
But if I'm you I will wait for Galaxy S5 coming on March or April I think.
iamnoo said:
When in 4.1.2 root your phone, after root flash the custom rom 4.3 you will not have the new bootlaoder and will not have issues on knox things.
But if I'm you I will wait for Galaxy S5 coming on March or April I think.
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Thanks Bro that was my expected answer.. and one thing i saw some thread state that internal sd should be format and if not there would be some file/folder error.... so when i flash 4.3 is there anything else i do??
No, for real. Just flash ANY custom 4.3 rom over your 4.1.2 (custom roms don't contain bootloader) and you are ready to go/use
This way, I had no problems... And I've been flashing my phone TONES of times ;p