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[Q ] Rezound to Bionic.

So I recently shattered the screen on my Rezound
Thinking of getting a Bionic since Big Red has them for free. What do you guys think of the Bionic? Is development going strong? And do ICS ROMs exist? Are they stable enough to be a daily driver? Any input is welcomed
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If your warranty allows it, get another Rezound.
Development is not that active. Eclipse is the only active Gingerbread-base ROM available. Team Gummy & Hive Dev are doing ICS ROMs but since the locked bootloader of the Bionic prevents kernel changes, ICS is not 100% functional.

Well I have insurance on my Rezound but I don't have the $99 for the insurance claim and I have an upgrade on my plan now. Anything is better than the DX I'm using right now haha

Lol Hey Goku.
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I Am Marino said:
Lol Hey Goku.
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Lol hey. What're you doing in the Bionic forum???
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DbZ Gokuu said:
Lol hey. What're you doing in the Bionic forum???
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Bored, randomly surfing forums.
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projektorboy said:
If your warranty allows it, get another Rezound.
Development is not that active. Eclipse is the only active Gingerbread-base ROM available. Team Gummy & Hive Dev are doing ICS ROMs but since the locked bootloader of the Bionic prevents kernel changes, ICS is not 100% functional.
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I agree. I have the Bionic and my wife has the Rezound. I feel like I got the short end of the stick here.
You're better off to stay with the X and save up the insurance deductible, IMHO.
That being said, the Bionic ICS ROMs are nice, but they all have the silly camera issues. Those might not be resolved until an official Moto ICS is released. You can take pictures using the cameras, but no video, and no barcode scanners, etc.
Eclipse is a nice Gingerbread ROM. It's what I'm running now.

What if I could have both? Haha the upgrade is my moms, so it won't add time to my line. And later I can send the Rezound in to the insurance and get it fixed. Then I will have both. I don't see the downside in trading this DX for a Bionic for free. Because I cannot stand this phone after having my Rezound.
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I Am Marino said:
Bored, randomly surfing forums.
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What do you think Marino?
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I will chime in here and tell you im currently on my third bionic in a week and number 4 will be delivered tomorrow. I would STAY AWAY from this phone. If you do any web surfing from your phone you will have issues with this one. The bionic is known for data drop issues . But if you dont plan on using this phone for anything other then developement i would wait on the rezound .
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DbZ Gokuu said:
What do you think Marino?
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Probably stick with the Rezound, only phone I'd ditch my Rezound for currently is the Maxx.
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Personally I'm a big fan of the Bionic. I got mine on release day last September and haven't had any major problems in all that time. I'm rooted and stock, with about 45 bloatware apps frozen. Each time there's an update I just unfreeze, update and refreeze with TiBu. Works great. If you don't want to spend the money for another Rezound I say go for it.

Unfortunately this is no longer an option for me. My girlfriend decided it would be a good idea to dump gatorade on her uninsured Rhyme. So now the upgrade will be going to her. Looks like I'll just have to bite the bullet and make an insurance claim
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cbrown245 said:
I will chime in here and tell you im currently on my third bionic in a week and number 4 will be delivered tomorrow. I would STAY AWAY from this phone. If you do any web surfing from your phone you will have issues with this one. The bionic is known for data drop issues . But if you dont plan on using this phone for anything other then developement i would wait on the rezound .
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WTH do you do to your phones? I feel for you but this is an exception here. The majority of owners don't have issues as excessive as this.
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DbZ Gokuu said:
Unfortunately this is no longer an option for me. My girlfriend decided it would be a good idea to dump gatorade on her uninsured Rhyme. So now the upgrade will be going to her. Looks like I'll just have to bite the bullet and make an insurance claim
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I might have done that to a Rhyme too.
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I might have done that to a Rhyme too.
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Might have? Lol
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cbrown245 said:
I will chime in here and tell you im currently on my third bionic in a week and number 4 will be delivered tomorrow. I would STAY AWAY from this phone. If you do any web surfing from your phone you will have issues with this one. The bionic is known for data drop issues . But if you dont plan on using this phone for anything other then developement i would wait on the rezound .
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I web surf on my phone daily without issue. I would not say what you experienced is common for other users.
Maybe you need to take a phone 101 class, or buy from a different seller.

LucasMN said:
I web surf on my phone daily without issue. I would not say what you experienced is common for other users.
Maybe you need to take a phone 101 class, or buy from a different seller.
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Lol phone 101 class? ?? I get my phones from Verizon . I cant help the data drop issues ( which is a KNOWN issue with this phone ) do a google search on the data drops and you will clearly see its not just me. If it dont bother you that the data drops off multiple times a day and you are used to sub par performance and you dont mind paying for data droppage thats you but I personally want my phone to work . The 905 update is rolling out to try and fix the DATA DROP ISSUE. There you have your first phone 101 lesson.
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Need more atrix hd users and devs!!!

Motorola atrix hd is definitely the best bang for buck.....if we get the loader unlocked it will be the least expensive most powerful device!.....plus is gorgeous!.....get ridda those one x's gx3s and get the hd.
I do not work for motorola or att or any such retailer....just an Android fanatic.....i speak on my own behalf....though any follower will not be disappointed!
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Too bad motorola is a $hit company that won't update its devices, especially if they are on ATT.
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We dont need up dates.lol......hence......developers
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Yeah but no one is going to move to a company that doesn't support the phone lineup and customers in order to have an influx of people willing to develop for the phone. You're counting on people to improve a phone when they're not even using it :/

Im not counting on anything.lol......maybe i shouldve not put the word needed in the subject......its just a great device......and ive used nearly all!
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And if you cant get the phone with yer company....dont get it i guess?.lol.....but if ya can.....get it!..haha
Mototola Atrix HD mb886 Quinara msm8960 surfboard 1.5ghz Qualcomm dual core snapdragon Graphics powered by Adreno

Who choose motorola, who choose a different path.

Implying that you can build full roms without official releases or proprietary sources.
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Atrix HD is definitely a powerful device with so much potential. We need some devs here. Moto has abandoned Atrix and I believe they won't abandon Atrix HD considering its powerful features.

happydolphin said:
Too bad motorola is a $hit company that won't update its devices, especially if they are on ATT.
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I have owned a ton of phones over the last 5 years. Apple is probably the best quality, but IOS blows. After the for quality Motorola is the best choice IMO.

They may have dropped the ball with the previous Atrix models, I work for AT&T and the Motorla spokesperson guy came in to review the Atrix HD with us, picking one up myself today probably, said they're rolling out Jellybean for it soon...Wether that means this year, or 2 years from now, who knows...but he said they WILL be updating it.

Hemotherapy said:
They may have dropped the ball with the previous Atrix models, I work for AT&T and the Motorla spokesperson guy came in to review the Atrix HD with us, picking one up myself today probably, said they're rolling out Jellybean for it soon...Wether that means this year, or 2 years from now, who knows...but he said they WILL be updating it.
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See this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1940270

supernononey said:
See this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1940270
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Yeah I just saw this.
Thanks
My post stands correct! Just..the timeline is a little sooner

If they get this out soon it will be awesome, but if a dev pushes out a less bloated version, it will be amazing!! Either way the root is out and good things are to come for the AHD. So glad i didn't get a one x or a gs3!!!!:laugh:

Let the games begin!!!!!

4.3 leaked/in testing Galaxy S4

Seems as Nexus owners we're not the first to get the update this time. It could turn out to be an elaborate fake but probably genuine as Google are an experimenting company and have released two flagship devices with a vanilla Android option (although they're not "nexus"). From what I've read there doesn't appear to be any big changes (if any actually visible) and more fixes/optimisations.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2342362

gsmyth said:
Seems as Nexus owners we're not the first to get the update this time. It could turn out to be an elaborate fake but probably genuine as Google are an experimenting company and have released two flagship devices with a vanilla Android option (although they're not "nexus"). From what I've read there doesn't appear to be any big changes (if any actually visible) and more fixes/optimisations.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2342362
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Flashed it on my GS4 and working like a charm (and it's the international version of course). No root yet, so i'll switch back to 4.2.2 to get my apps lol (can't restore through TB Pro duh).
It's just a leak so don't worry about it. The Nexus devices will definitely get the 4.3 first.

kingzain900 said:
Flashed it on my GS4 and working like a charm (and it's the international version of course). No root yet, so i'll switch back to 4.2.2 to get my apps lol (can't restore through TB Pro duh).
It's just a leak so don't worry about it. The Nexus devices will definitely get the 4.3 first.
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Cool, I'm another few months away from a handset upgrade and so it definitely makes these phones an even better proposition, having access to stock android goodness. Was impressed seeing how quickly someone had put a vanilla 4.2.2 ROM together for the HTC One, then seen this and was very surprised.
Its good to see really as it shows that Google and the handset makers are finally getting why people like android so much and that is the option of choice and customisation. It may not be the exact reason for doing so but they must be conscious of it. As the last I/O conference showed, it was very developer orientated

kingzain900 said:
Flashed it on my GS4 and working like a charm (and it's the international version of course). No root yet, so i'll switch back to 4.2.2 to get my apps lol (can't restore through TB Pro duh).
It's just a leak so don't worry about it. The Nexus devices will definitely get the 4.3 first.
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Try rooting with Motochopper. Should still work on 4.3
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What are the new features?
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IRX120 said:
What are the new features?
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All features are under the hood. This explains it better: http://www.androidcentral.com/hands-leaked-android-43-rom-google-edition-galaxy-s4
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Try rooting with Motochopper. Should still work on 4.3
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I switched back to TW ROM for now. I found the camera app of TW to be of better quality and also if I have the S4, might as well use the features included in it.

So basically 4.3 has very little changes?? Mostly stuff no one will ever see or notice. In other words a placebo update basically to keep flash happys content until key lime comes out! LOL
Yay!
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kj2112 said:
So basically 4.3 has very little changes?? Mostly stuff no one will ever see or notice. In other words a placebo update basically to keep flash happys content until key lime comes out! LOL
Yay!
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Majority of what is updated won't be frontend. Just additions to the internal workings of android. Maybe some slimmed down code for some Google system apps and such.
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blmvxer said:
Majority of what is updated won't be frontend. Just additions to the internal workings of android. Maybe some slimmed down code for some Google system apps and such.
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And yet people will push seniors and kids out of their way to get their hands on! LOL.
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kj2112 said:
And yet people will push seniors and kids out of their way to get their hands on! LOL.
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Hahaha of course, its a new version of android. , also the pics I posted are a fake, just change your version number in build.prop and reboot. Even the easter egg reads the build.prop.
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That picture had the JDQ39 build number. Fake. 4.2
Edit: just read last post lol. I didn't know the easter egg read the build.prop.
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BlackFire27 said:
That picture had the JDQ39 build number. Fake. 4.2
Edit: just read last post lol. I didn't know the easter egg read the build.prop.
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Those are from my LGOG.
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My guess is 4.3 is just bug releases and something to keep us occupied before key lime pie
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Does not look like a whole lot of new stuff, wonder if battery and memory management will be any better
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rcarnes911 said:
Does not look like a whole lot of new stuff, wonder if battery and memory management will be any better
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Oh yeah, battery life on 4.2.2 is soooooo terrible /sarcasm
I routinely get 8 to 10 hours of screen time depending on how much standby there is.

I never said it was bad i just said i wonder if it will be better, no need for a stupid comment
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blmvxer said:
Those are from my LGOG.
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It took me a few minutes to figure out what a LGOG is lol
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Android 4.4 kitKat

I'm sure you've all heard new android 4.4 kitkat.
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...gn=Feed:+xda-developers/ShsH+(xda-developers)
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Not buying it. First of all KitKat is a trademarked name... Also the whole "golden ticket" willy wonka thing is bogus too.
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harsho1 said:
Not buying it. First of all KitKat is a trademarked name... Also the whole "golden ticket" willy wonka thing is bogus too.
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Pull out your wallet. Google spokeman confirmed it
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harsho1 said:
Not buying it. First of all KitKat is a trademarked name... Also the whole "golden ticket" willy wonka thing is bogus too.
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Dude they partnered up duh. They've already got the statue. And they're not doing anything willy wonka golden ticket things.. Is just a contest for N7s and a couple play store gift cards
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I feel like kitkat is gonna be dope. Anyone think our phone will be able to handle it? (they seem to have no doubt that the nexus 7 2013 will have it and besides the ram being 2gb and that AHD being 1gb, the specs don't between the two don't differ much [feel free to nicely correct me if I'm wrong])

4.4 is being made for older phones with lesser specs than ours. The question is will the carriers give it out to us?
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helldogg75 said:
4.4 is being made for older phones with lesser specs than ours. The question is will the carriers give it out to us?
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The answer is no, our talented devs will
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EcHoFiiVe said:
The answer is no, our talented devs will
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Exactly lol. We won't even get an official 4.2.
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deeje00 said:
Exactly lol. We won't even get an official 4.2.
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Did AT&T users even get 4.1.2?
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EcHoFiiVe said:
Did AT&T users even get 4.1.2?
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Yeah got that right after my first AHD. Caused my phone to bootloop and had to get another.
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Well then I'm gonna be hopeful for a PAC 4.4
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its on the official android site
http://www.android.com/
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Blackest Pain said:
I feel like kitkat is gonna be dope. Anyone think our phone will be able to handle it? (they seem to have no doubt that the nexus 7 2013 will have it and besides the ram being 2gb and that AHD being 1gb, the specs don't between the two don't differ much [feel free to nicely correct me if I'm wrong])
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in fact ive seen devices that originally came with gingerbread running 4.2.2 very well and not only that motorola will upgrade moto-x to kitkat atrix hd is only a 200mhz slower than moto-x

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in fact ive seen devices that originally came with gingerbread running 4.2.2 very well and not only that motorola will upgrade moto-x to kitkat atrix hd is only a 200mhz slower than moto-x
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Exactly! I personally am not down with the moto x. Its just a (very) slightly updated version of the matrix HD. And the real deal killer (from what I've heard) is that there's no f*#$%¡£ SD card slot.
Slightly of topic: since we where talking about kitkat running on older phones, does anyone else find it awesomely funny that the HTC dream/ T-Mobile G1 (the first official android phone) can run jellybean? Sure it's crap compared to ours now but the fact that it can even boot is cool.
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"It's our goal with android kitkat to make an amazing android experience available for everybody"
We'll see what that really means
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They should just push it out... forget the carriers.
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Did AT&T users even get 4.1.2?
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AT&T users got 4.1.1...

i actualy did not know that and not only that att cut there main support for atrix hd as soon as moto-x came out and i haveused the moto-x its really more of a downgrade than an upgrade and you are correct it does not have a external sd card slot which prevents me from even thinking about the moto-x as a possible device
thats why i havent bought the nexus 4

Well I don't really think that 4.4 KitKat will be the next version of android. I don't know why but it just doesn't sound right. I mean all these hints from Google about klp for nothing? If you remember a Google employee had posted a picture of android eating klp which actually "confirmed" klp as the next version of android for me. It could be a marketing trick, like they show kitkat and then release 5.0 KLP . It could be a small "lie" from Google so that it keeps us thinking that they release 4.4 and then, boum they release 5.0. I could be wrong but I don't think 4.4 will be next version of android if you think how many android versions 4+ has supported (4.0, 4.1, 4.1.2, 4.2.1, 4.2.2, 4.3, and now 4.4???) All other android version numbers were supporting no more than two versions of android (1.5, 2.0, 2.2, 3.0,) Also I don't think Google would use a copyrighted name as their next version of android. Like I said, this could be a "trick" from Google or I could be totally wrong
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Well I don't really think that 4.4 KitKat will be the next version of android. I don't know why but it just doesn't sound right. I mean all these hints from Google about klp for nothing? If you remember a Google employee had posted a picture of android eating klp which actually "confirmed" klp as the next version of android for me. It could be a marketing trick, like they show kitkat and then release 5.0 KLP . It could be a small "lie" from Google so that it keeps us thinking that they release 4.4 and then, boum they release 5.0. I could be wrong but I don't think 4.4 will be next version of android if you think how many android versions 4+ has supported (4.0, 4.1, 4.1.2, 4.2.1, 4.2.2, 4.3, and now 4.4???) All other android version numbers were supporting no more than two versions of android (1.5, 2.0, 2.2, 3.0,) Also I don't think Google would use a copyrighted name as their next version of android. Like I said, this could be a "trick" from Google or I could be totally wrong
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Here's the story behind the story
http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/3/4691040/android-kitkat-the-story-behind-a-delicious-partnership

Basically this makes me want to eat KitKats. They are delicious!
//I'm a sucker for marketing...bought a 6er of these because I liked the way the bottles looked.

Motorola Atrix HD will get android 4.4?

I don't know if the future update we will receive is android 4.4 or a lower one(4.2 or 4.3) but at least there's something planned..
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Interesting, we all hoping to get anything the least. Skeevy already point this out last night. But thanks for making its own thread.
Me you I rename it though as it mislead.
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According to Droid Life, Motorola's KitKat-compatible phones include all versions of the Moto X, as well as new Droid phones like the Droid Ultra, the Droid Maxx, and the Droid Mini. Meanwhile, notable omissions include the Razr HD and the Razr Maxx HD.

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I don't know if the future update we will receive is android 4.4 or a lower one(4.2 or 4.3) but at least there's something planned..
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In the mean time you can install the goodies from 4.4 from: here...
Tried it out and I love the knew sms integration with hangouts, group messages works perfect now.

They look good. Downloading some of them to test out.
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They don't work on my phone.
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Motorola (even in spite of being under Google's control now) will pull the same crap they did with the Atrix 4G and Photon: they'll keep saying "future plans" or "coming soon" or "we'll let you know" and then they'll just drop a bomb as they already did and say "if you want KitKat, go buy a candy bar or a new phone..."
Sad but more than likely true.
It really pisses me off since Google is pushing KitKat with marketing-speak that professes it runs great on non-top-tier hardware with as little as 512MB of RAM and a dual core processor, and yet with a device like the Atrix HD which covers that (dual core 1.5 GHz + 1GB of RAM) they'll just say "It's not gonna happen so get over it." I know in the long run it would be AT&T's decision whether to do it or not, but it's safe to say that no, we'll never see an official 4.4 update for the Atrix HD. Hell, I probably won't get one for my LG Optimus G either, which truly sucks.
/me hates it when companies do crap like that...

br0adband said:
Motorola (even in spite of being under Google's control now) will pull the same crap they did with the Atrix 4G and Photon: they'll keep saying "future plans" or "coming soon" or "we'll let you know" and then they'll just drop a bomb as they already did and say "if you want KitKat, go buy a candy bar or a new phone..."
Sad but more than likely true.
It really pisses me off since Google is pushing KitKat with marketing-speak that professes it runs great on non-top-tier hardware with as little as 512MB of RAM and a dual core processor, and yet with a device like the Atrix HD which covers that (dual core 1.5 GHz + 1GB of RAM) they'll just say "It's not gonna happen so get over it." I know in the long run it would be AT&T's decision whether to do it or not, but it's safe to say that no, we'll never see an official 4.4 update for the Atrix HD. Hell, I probably won't get one for my LG Optimus G either, which truly sucks.
/me hates it when companies do crap like that...
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Yea. Finally the decision is on At&t's side. But they should give us android 4.4. =]
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The decision has always been on att side. They suck at getting updates across.
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deeje00 said:
The decision has always been on att side. They suck at getting updates across.
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AT&T doesn't even factor into us getting stock better than 4.1.. We have more carriers than just AT&T, not many, but we do -- Atrix HD already has 4.1.2 stock, where AT&T Atrix HD is only 4.1.1. Also, rumor has it that AHD Bell is running 4.2....almost makes me want to flash Bell JB just to run a system update on it....almost. If someone does flash B 4.1.2 and gets an update, don't install it, notify us so it can be ripped and made into a rom first. Don't want to accidentally f**k yourself out of an unlocked bootloader.
Remember that as long as ANY device of the razr-msm8960 family gets better than 4.1, then all the other devices essentially get it.

I know I'm saying att personally sucks at updates as your post just confirmed lol.
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To be fair to AT&T, Motorola is/was just as bad. Look at the Bravo, Defy, Defy+, Milestone 2, and a few other similar phones, between the 4 the biggest differences are 3 different camera modules, a hardware keyboard, the below screen button layout, and maybe some slightly different sensors....Moto released the Defy+, which is the exact same as the Defy only clocked to 1ghz and had the red lens camera module (OG Defies had 5mp cameras, but some had a red lens module and the other green, Milestone had red 5mp, Bravo green 3mp).
Now on the custom scene, Bravo and Defy use the exact same sources other than camera and, I think, some proprietary lib differences. Milestone is the same other than the hardware keyboard additions, and maybe some more...been a while since I've messed with that platform.
Bravo latest is stock froyo 2.2.1 (there is a 2.2.2 model around)
Defy is froyo 2.2.2 (there is a leaked 2.3.4 GB)
Defy+ is GB 2.3.6
MS2 is GB 2.3.6
All these phones could have easily been updated by Motorola, but its easier to not update them and make us get new phones.
Stock Bravo is the worst stock experience ever, and my first Android. Four hours in and I was rooted and on a custom rom, BravoX.
They all run CM10.2 thanks to Quarx and many other talented devs.
What's funny is I bet ya that more than half of XDA's members are here because of the Manufacturer/Carrier release fiasco that always happens. If they didn't want us messing with our phones then they should give us something that doesn't completely suck, like our Stock ICS...Other than TB, governor type crap, etc I could use that without root any day of the week and be happy with it.

[QIf someone does flash B 4.1.2 and gets an update, don't install it, notify us so it can be ripped and made into a rom first. Don't want to accidentally f**k yourself out of an unlocked bootloader
Trying it out.
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helldogg75 said:
[QIf someone does flash B 4.1.2 and gets an update, don't install it, notify us so it can be ripped and made into a rom first. Don't want to accidentally f**k yourself out of an unlocked bootloader
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Any OTA or does it say none when you're on 4.1.2?

Got caught up with my six month old. I will try later. Sorry.
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No update from 4.1.2 on bell
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helldogg75 said:
[QIf someone does flash B 4.1.2 and gets an update, don't install it, notify us so it can be ripped and made into a rom first. Don't want to accidentally f**k yourself out of an unlocked bootloader
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No update
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Would like to atleast see a nice cyanogenmod android 4.4 version.
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maiquito said:
Would like to atleast see a nice cyanogenmod android 4.4 version.
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I'm almost willing to bet that it will happen so you wish has hope.
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Blackest Pain said:
I'm almost willing to bet that it will happen so you wish has hope.
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Yea but I wish something different not just the same. Because all cyanogenmod roms are the same look. I wish something at least noticeable different from the current one's.
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maiquito said:
Yea but I wish something different not just the same. Because all cyanogenmod roms are the same look. I wish something at least noticeable different from the current one's.
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Totally agree. Don't get me wrong as I truly appreciate cyanogen team but what you have stated is exactly why I'm not a fan of their ROMs any more.
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