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I live about 55 miles outside Chicago and I am getting 2 bars of LTE, should I shut that off? I get full bars of 3g, we are not supposed to have LTE here yet.
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I live about 55 miles outside Chicago and I am getting 2 bars of LTE, should I shut that off? I get full bars of 3g, we are not supposed to have LTE here yet.
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If you have it and it doesn't constantly cycle and it works, leave it on. You are not going to get charged extra for it.
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Thanks, I am just curious if its worth keeping lower signal over full on 3g?
Not sure if the bars have anything to do with data, I was told it was only for cell service. I could be wrong.
iphonedefector said:
Thanks, I am just curious if its worth keeping lower signal over full on 3g?
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U will save your battery a little on 3G, but if you have 4G then use it. It is ten times faster and once you use it, slower 3G speeds will start to annoy you.
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iphonedefector said:
Thanks, I am just curious if its worth keeping lower signal over full on 3g?
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If your signal is too low, it will switch out. You can play a little and see if the weak signal slows your data. Go to speakeasy.com and test you speeds. That will tell you how fast the data is moving up and down.
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i have senn 10mb/s down speeds with 1 bar of lte. if you are getting 2 bars you should be good.
I think idefiler6 was dead on.... the bars don't have anything to do with data. The bars only represent the voice. The 4g/3g data connections that are displayed are in addition to the voice signal that is represented by the bars.
I emailed GSM Nation to see when they would received the C6906 because I want to use LTE on AT&T. They sent me a reply saying that many of their customers use AT&T, and have been reporting LTE working.. Are they just blowing smoke up my ass? If not, is there a way to see what bands are active in each cities?
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I emailed GSM Nation to see when they would received the C6906 because I want to use LTE on AT&T. They sent me a reply saying that many of their customers use AT&T, and have been reporting LTE working.. Are they just blowing smoke up my ass? If not, is there a way to see what bands are active in each cities?
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i'd be cautious about buying the C6903 and using it on AT&T in the U.S. I had the international version of the Z earlier in march C6603 and i never got LTE on that phone, only HSPA+. I used this phone in Minneapolis and never saw LTE. I also did a road trip from Pittsburg to Orlando and never saw LTE on the way anywhere. Also used in Miami without LTE.
I believe its important to have the 700 band if you want to see LTE on the AT&T network on a device.
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i'd be cautious about buying the C6903 and using it on AT&T in the U.S. I had the international version of the Z earlier in march C6603 and i never got LTE on that phone, only HSPA+. I used this phone in Minneapolis and never saw LTE. I also did a road trip from Pittsburg to Orlando and never saw LTE on the way anywhere. Also used in Miami without LTE.
I believe its important to have the 700 band if you want to see LTE on the AT&T network on a device.
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You can use the 6903 model on AT&T, I'm using the Z1 on it right now. But to get LTE support you are correct, you need the 700Mhz band which is in the 6906 model.
Bleh, I had the same concern and called ATT and asked. The guy told me this.
ATT uses 700-1400mhz spectrum. meaning 700 though, not and. So any device that supports bands "in that range" will work fine. Was he misinformed, or is that right? When is the damn xxx6 model coming out anyway?
I'm using the xperia on ATT right now no LTE but I do get hspa+ which is fine (is a 50mbps connection REALLY needed for a phone?) Anyways there is a chance that LTE may work in the US because ATT is rolling out and already has the 1700mhz band in a bunch of cities: Phoenix, Raleigh, San Juan, Los Angeles, Las Vegas, Oklahoma City, Dallas, Chicago, Charlotte, Athens, GA and College Station, TX. The Nexus 4 people were reporting that it works but not sure about Z1. I'm not from any of these cities so i can't confirm if its working. Maybe someone can?
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is a 50mbps connection REALLY needed for a phone?
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When it's been shown to give better battery life thanks to race to idle advantages? Absolutely.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6330/the-iphone-5-review/13
>The non-LTE phones see a sharp drop in battery life. At least at 28nm the slower air interfaces simply have to remain active (and drawing power) for longer, which results in measurably worse battery life.
This doesn't work on slower LTE networks like verizon, but for us on ATT we can get better battery life while enjoying faster speeds. Note that in that graph anandtech measures HSPA+ as "3g", as it is 3g, despite ATT and verizon's marketing. I make this distinction to prevent people from thinking they are testing the older 1.4mbit or whatever network they used to use.
I'm probably going to get the Z1 without LTE functionality in my area anyway, because at the end of the day I'm without a smartphone right now (my HTC one got washed with my clothes and doesn't do much other than vibrate when it's plugged in now) and don't want to wait for Sony to stop being lazy and put out the model with 700mhz LTE.
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Bleh, I had the same concern and called ATT and asked. The guy told me this.
ATT uses 700-1400mhz spectrum. meaning 700 though, not and. So any device that supports bands "in that range" will work fine. Was he misinformed, or is that right? When is the damn xxx6 model coming out anyway?
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When it's been shown to give better battery life thanks to race to idle advantages? Absolutely.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6330/the-iphone-5-review/13
>The non-LTE phones see a sharp drop in battery life. At least at 28nm the slower air interfaces simply have to remain active (and drawing power) for longer, which results in measurably worse battery life.
This doesn't work on slower LTE networks like verizon, but for us on ATT we can get better battery life while enjoying faster speeds. Note that in that graph anandtech measures HSPA+ as "3g", as it is 3g, despite ATT and verizon's marketing. I make this distinction to prevent people from thinking they are testing the older 1.4mbit or whatever network they used to use.
I'm probably going to get the Z1 without LTE functionality in my area anyway, because at the end of the day I'm without a smartphone right now (my HTC one got washed with my clothes and doesn't do much other than vibrate when it's plugged in now) and don't want to wait for Sony to stop being lazy and put out the model with 700mhz LTE.
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The only reason it improves battery life is because its take you less time to download things which is a given. If you're constantly downloading extremely large files then maybe you need it, but for me not so much.
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I emailed GSM Nation to see when they would received the C6906 because I want to use LTE on AT&T. They sent me a reply saying that many of their customers use AT&T, and have been reporting LTE working.. Are they just blowing smoke up my ass? If not, is there a way to see what bands are active in each cities?
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The answer is yes, they are blowing smoke up your ass. In order for a phone to get AT&T LTE, you need Band 17. That is their primary LTE band. They also supplementarily use Band 2, 4, and 5 in select cities where they don't have Band 17. Similar thread in the Z Ultra forums, which have similar models which might clarify this more if you need more details.
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The only reason it improves battery life is because its take you less time to download things which is a given. If you're constantly downloading extremely large files then maybe you need it, but for me not so much.
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You did not read the source I linked I think. It shows web browsing, not downloading massive files. LTEs speed and therefore race to idle advantage applies to more than just downloading large files, it shows battery savings in normal day to day use, from things that drain quite a bit of battery like browsing to smaller things like syncing gmail accounts.
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I'm using the xperia on ATT right now no LTE but I do get hspa+ which is fine (is a 50mbps connection REALLY needed for a phone?) Anyways there is a chance that LTE may work in the US because ATT is rolling out and already has the 1700mhz band in a bunch of cities: Phoenix, Raleigh, San Juan, Los Angeles, Las Vegas, Oklahoma City, Dallas, Chicago, Charlotte, Athens, GA and College Station, TX. The Nexus 4 people were reporting that it works but not sure about Z1. I'm not from any of these cities so i can't confirm if its working. Maybe someone can?
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You can use the 6903 model on AT&T, I'm using the Z1 on it right now. But to get LTE support you are correct, you need the 700Mhz band which is in the 6906 model.
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What speeds are you guys getting on ATT with the C6903? If the C6906 isn't shipping anywhere by midnext week I'm going to order the C6903, I've been android less for 2 weeks now, I'm going crazy. I don't use my phone as a hot spot or for file downloads, so I don't need crazy speeds which I don't even get anyway LTE wise in my area, usually 22mbps max and on average upper teens.
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What speeds are you guys getting on ATT with the C6903? If the C6906 isn't shipping anywhere by midnext week I'm going to order the C6903, I've been android less for 2 weeks now, I'm going crazy. I don't use my phone as a hot spot or for file downloads, so I don't need crazy speeds which I don't even get anyway LTE wise in my area, usually 22mbps max and on average upper teens.
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I'm getting 8.22 Mbps down and 1.13 Mbps up with full bars on AT&T right now. I'll do a few more tests to check for consistency.
EDIT: Just ran another test and I got 9.21 Mbps down and 1.13 Mbps up.
I'm full bars on my Lumia 920 here at work, only getting 5/0.6 on LTE so I guess C6903 would do just fine. I only ever get good LTE speeds at home, but I use my phone on my wifi connection there so it's not very useful. Thanks!
I received my Sony Xperia Z1 from GSM Nation yesterday and can vouch for the fact that the 6903 model will in fact NOT work with AT&T's 4G LTE network. I live in New York City too, if that means anything. I spent the entire afternoon trying to connect to the LTE network. Instead, I was able to connect to the 3G (HSPA+) network and that's it.
I am very unhappy about this and will be returning the phone to GSM Nation immediately. I love LTE speed and did not know that battery life was affected by it too (thanks for that youwonder!) so I'll patiently wait for the 6906 model to be released. Does anyone know when that might happen? I can live with my old Galaxy Note II for now I suppose. Agh!
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What speeds are you guys getting on ATT with the C6903? If the C6906 isn't shipping anywhere by midnext week I'm going to order the C6903, I've been android less for 2 weeks now, I'm going crazy. I don't use my phone as a hot spot or for file downloads, so I don't need crazy speeds which I don't even get anyway LTE wise in my area, usually 22mbps max and on average upper teens.
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I actually am in an area where I get LTE on AT&T with the 6903 interesting, it does get the normal speeds so highest so far 20 down which is pretty good.
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I received my Sony Xperia Z1 from GSM Nation yesterday and can vouch for the fact that the 6903 model will in fact NOT work with AT&T's 4G LTE network. I live in New York City too, if that means anything. I spent the entire afternoon trying to connect to the LTE network. Instead, I was able to connect to the 3G (HSPA+) network and that's it.
I am very unhappy about this and will be returning the phone to GSM Nation immediately. I love LTE speed and did not know that battery life was affected by it too (thanks for that youwonder!) so I'll patiently wait for the 6906 model to be released. Does anyone know when that might happen? I can live with my old Galaxy Note II for now I suppose. Agh!
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Heres the message I got to the query, about at&t lte from GSM Nation, also asked them about 6906. Edited out private stuff.
"at&t's main frequency for LTE is 700 mhz so the 6903 working is really upto where in the US you live and that is unfortunately not information we would have. It is certainly limited markets for 1700's but these are just reports from customers from our followups.
Regardless we do not advertise it as compatible with at&t due to it being limited markets. And would advise that customers purchase it for use with at&t LTE at their own risk. The c6906 model traditionally comes to carriers first so that would be the safest bet at this time if your looking for at&t LTE. It should be available soon in the US."
seems pretty clear cut.
Sony Xperia ZL C6503 also no LTE
Rebsters said:
Heres the message I got to the query, about at&t lte from GSM Nation, also asked them about 6906. Edited out private stuff.
"at&t's main frequency for LTE is 700 mhz so the 6903 working is really upto where in the US you live and that is unfortunately not information we would have. It is certainly limited markets for 1700's but these are just reports from customers from our followups.
Regardless we do not advertise it as compatible with at&t due to it being limited markets. And would advise that customers purchase it for use with at&t LTE at their own risk. The c6906 model traditionally comes to carriers first so that would be the safest bet at this time if your looking for at&t LTE. It should be available soon in the US."
seems pretty clear cut.
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PMFJI. I own the C6506 (Sony branded, carrier unlocked) which support a wide range of bands including LTE IV and LTE XVII, both of which are used by AT&T. In addition, I get PCS 1900 which AT&T is rolling out.
I get NO LTE service and I was told this is by design. If you do not own an AT&T branded phone, the network will not permit you on the LTE network. I am provisioned for LTE but I cannot get even 4G.
This was not explained by anyone and it took me a number of support calls and escalations to learn this. I believe the only way to effect change on this rregressive policy is for people to complain. There is no reason to penalize BYOD customers who choose not to own an AT&T branded device.
My device specs for LTE: 4G Network LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - C6506
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Great work. Should be useful to Sprint users.
You can skip the computer part if you install logcat and begin at step 5 after launching.
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Wouldn't battery use increase from enabling this? Because it would be constantly scanning for the other 2 frequencies?
This thread was already done by me a week ago. Use the search function to avoid repost clutter.
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sweet!! thanks been wanting to get my MSL since i got the phone.. just hate talking to sprint reps to get it.. worked great thanks!!:good:
i live in fort worth and set 41 to 1 and the others to zero and i have lte , so does mean i have tri band in my area? and will the other bands set to zero still be used when needed . thanks
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You can skip the computer part if you install logcat and begin at step 5 after launching.
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True enough, but you need to get the right logcat app, some don't work as well as others. I initially tried aLogCat, but didn't seem to work. CatLog app worked great, however.
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Just saying. No one has been able to get a B41 (TDD-LTE 2496-2690) connection with a Nexus 5 and that's with actual maps of Clearwire sites that's been upgraded and knowing where each site is located at. I've personally visited over 24 sites to no avail and know of others that visited many sites as well. Looks to be a much bigger issue than just changing up the LTE Engineering settings and may be network related.
Just got the phone but I'm pretty disappointed with the LTE speeds 1/2mb down, outside it's a bit better. Went downstairs and it disconnects from LTE altogether. Anyone know if it's a radio (hardware) issue with the phone or firmware radio? Some spots of my house won't even catch LTE, whereas my s2 would get wimax.
I've tried spark but it makes my connection more unreliable more pocket loss, but indeed it does seem to make it faster, placebo? I'm in Los Angeles don't know if it's been rolled out. I tried updating prl/profile to no avail. My next choice would be to try the LG 2 in hope of it having a better radio.
GPS is spot on, and wow this thing is fast!
Just a question, but wouldn't prioritizing band 26 make more sense since that is the 800MHz frequency band?
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Just a question, but wouldn't prioritizing band 26 make more sense since that is the 800MHz frequency band?
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No, band 41 has the most capacity so you would want to connect to that if you are actually in range of it. It will automatically drop you down to the lower frequency bands as you move out of range of the higher frequency bands.
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No, band 41 has the most capacity so you would want to connect to that if you are actually in range of it. It will automatically drop you down to the lower frequency bands as you move out of range of the higher frequency bands.
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Sweet, thanks for the explanation!
Hello, I tried this on my N% for Sprint today. btw. I live in N. OC, near Los Angeles. If I happen to be in and out of spotty LTE coverage areas. Will these adjustments cause more battery use or or worse performance?
When viewing HD youtube videos, it seems to play smoothly for a while, and then pauses as it the speed is going and up and down or being throttled.
About Band 41
So you means the Band 41 is unopen under default setting?
we need to open it by manual?
You know, the biggest mobile carrier China Mobile's 4G is TDD-LTE, and also use the band 41
But if I use the 4G sim card, it still work in 2G.
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Hello, I tried this on my N% for Sprint today. btw. I live in N. OC, near Los Angeles. If I happen to be in and out of spotty LTE coverage areas. Will these adjustments cause more battery use or or worse performance?
When viewing HD youtube videos, it seems to play smoothly for a while, and then pauses as it the speed is going and up and down or being throttled.
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I am with uh60james spark seems to offer more throughput and less disconnects.
I drove to Corona from Carson the other day and i was shocked how much coverage sprint has improved on. I wasn't able to stay connected to LTE on my the entirety of my drive but it is impressive how Sprint has extended lte coverage around corona at least on the freeway.
Spark works better for me, less drop offs.
I am in Naperville. Will check this out and see if tri band goes this far out west from chicago.
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i live in fort worth and set 41 to 1 and the others to zero and i have lte , so does mean i have tri band in my area? and will the other bands set to zero still be used when needed . thanks
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I haven't heard anything about DFW having Spark anytime soon, so more than likely not. I live in Arlington myself, and would love to see this area Spark-enabled sooner than later.
Enabled this on my n5 a couple weeks ago .... dismal speeds on lte in downtown Los Angeles as usual around 4 down and 2 up.... Yesterday for the first time spark kicked in and I got 44down and 14 up. BUUUUT today its back and slower than ever. around 2 down/1up on LTE
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So you means the Band 41 is unopen under default setting?
we need to open it by manual?
You know, the biggest mobile carrier China Mobile's 4G is TDD-LTE, and also use the band 41
But if I use the 4G sim card, it still work in 2G.
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Seems that due to Nexus 5 lacks TD-SCDMA for China Mobile 3G, it is very hard for Nexus 5 auto connect to LTE.
You need *#*#4636#*#*, change mode to "LTE Only" and wait connect to band 41/38 cell and then change it back to "LTE/GSM Auto (PRL)".
After it, you will on LTE until one of following happens: no LTE cell signal; incoming call; make a outgoing call. If fallback to GSM, you will need another round of "LTE Only" settings. Please check some chinese forums, there are plenty of guides.
It seems N5's baseband firmware did not implement some directly GSM to LTE function and do not support China Mobile 3G, so ...
Can those who have the device already comment on your reception strength compared to your previous devices?
I have a Moto X, and I used the have the M7. Signal strength of the X is a consistent 10-15 dBm better than on the M7.
Just wondering if anyone can chip in and comment on this. If signal strength is about the same as the M7, I may have to go with the S5. I tether for my home internet so every little bit matters.
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Can those who have the device already comment on your reception strength compared to your previous devices?
I have a Moto X, and I used the have the M7. Signal strength of the X is a consistent 10-15 dBm better than on the M7.
Just wondering if anyone can chip in and comment on this. If signal strength is about the same as the M7, I may have to go with the S5. I tether for my home internet so every little bit matters.
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I have a moto X as a test device. Its not activated, but sitting right next to the New One I get the following:
New One: -110 dbm
Moto X: - 108 dbm
Evo 4G LTE: -106 dbm
Hope that helps.
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I have a moto X as a test device. Its not activated, but sitting right next to the New One I get the following:
New One: -110 dbm
Moto X: - 108 dbm
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It does, thank you.
For me it makes the difference between hanging onto LTE and dropping down to 3G.
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It does, thank you.
For me it makes the difference between hanging onto LTE and dropping down to 3G.
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Hopefully some others will chime in with their results.. because being worse then the evo lte is not looking good.
That was my main complaint, it would always prefer 3g over lte. Switched to the One and it was much better. Although the fcc filings showed the M8 being even better then the M7. so this is weird.
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Hopefully some others will chime in with their results.. because being worse then the evo lte is not looking good.
That was my main complaint, it would always prefer 3g over lte. Switched to the One and it was much better. Although the fcc filings showed the M8 being even better then the M7. so this is weird.
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Yeah from what I've read the Evo LTE had horribad reception.
Another big thing is that the M8 and S5 have Spark... And since I live in Houston, I'll be able to take advantage of that, which is huge.
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Yeah, im in kc.. So i can't wait to see the difference between spark and their normal lte as well.
Unfortunately i have to wait until next week before they'll put in my order.. Something about only online and telesales until next week, which doesn't handle business accounts. Wait is killin me.
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I have a moto X as a test device. Its not activated, but sitting right next to the New One I get the following:
New One: -110 dbm
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Was this on 3G? The Evo is notorious for having a subpar LTE radio, while the Moto X is known to have a good/strong LTE radio. Your numbers contradict those facts, unless these numbers represent 3G signal. Otherwise, it sounds like the M8 is bad in the RF field.
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Was this on 3G? The Evo is notorious for having a subpar LTE radio, while the Moto X is known to have a good/strong LTE radio. Your numbers contradict those facts, unless these numbers represent 3G signal. Otherwise, it sounds like the M8 is bad in the RF field.
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No this is in LTE. I have modified my back on my EVO LTE to make it have a great connection to the antenna every time. Guess I should have posted that.
My old HTC One here at home would connect to LTE and drop to 3G my new one is on LTE and has not dropped down.
Sitting in my living room and seeing the LTE and Spark icon on statusbar, only one bar but it nice to see. It spins as well.
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Yeah, im in kc.. So i can't wait to see the difference between spark and their normal lte as well.
Unfortunately i have to wait until next week before they'll put in my order.. Something about only online and telesales until next week, which doesn't handle business accounts. Wait is killin me.
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I am on a Sprint business account and was able to order on launch day. I didn't order until about 5pm CST here in KC, so it won't arrive until Friday. It's in Lenexa right now and THAT is killing me!
Signal strength on my M8 is consistently 8-10 dBm higher than on my Jewel, sitting next to each other, as reported by SignalCheck Pro.
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Signal strength on my M8 is consistently 8-10 dBm higher than on my Jewel, sitting next to each other, as reported by SignalCheck Pro.
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That's not good :/. Are you comparing the LTE dBm?
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On my M7 I would bounce between 3g/4g all day at work...My M8 stayed on 4g all day at work today
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Just got to work and LTE signal is 15dbm lower(better signal). I have never seen -82 dBm on the OG One. Pretty much had LTE/SPARK the whole 1.5 hours to work.
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That's not good :/. Are you comparing the LTE dBm?
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How is that not good?
And yes, this is on LTE.
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Signal strength on my M8 is consistently 8-10 dBm higher than on my Jewel, sitting next to each other, as reported by SignalCheck Pro.
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This is one of the things that I wanted to know the most. Do you mind setting the phone to CDMA only to compare 3G? LTE at my house is really poor, so I'm just hoping for a better 3G signal for the times when I'm in the area, but not indoors to use WiFi.
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Signal strength on my M8 is consistently 8-10 dBm higher than on my Jewel, sitting next to each other, as reported by SignalCheck Pro.
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Me too. I am happy about that.
Higher dBm means the signal is weaker. Maybe I miss understood you and you meant higher as in the dBm was lower.
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My new M8 definitely seems to hold onto LTE better than my EVO 4G LTE did, it's always saying LTE in parts of my house where the old phone would drop to EVDO. In fact, except for forcing it to EVDO once, I haven't seen it drop there at all.
I am seeing strange issues with Wi-Fi though. The 2.4GHz Wi-Fi radio seems to work fine, but at 5GHz things get lossy. Using Signal Check, I see the link speed up around 300-500Mbps and RSSI varies between -55 dBm to as high as -31 dBm, however, if I were to setup a ping between my laptop on the same network and the phone I see upwards of 50% packet loss. Moving the phone physically I can almost plot out what seem like signal nodes and antinodes. My AP here is an Asus RT-AC66U, and the M8 is the only 802.11ac capable device I believe I've ever tried connecting to it. My older phone and my laptop connect to it at 802.11n just fine.
I'm wondering if anybody else is seeing 5GHz issues, I'll continue to try diagnosing things to see if it's a problem other than with the phone.
I get really good hspa+ speeds where i live. Good enough that im considering turning off 4g and going with just hspa. Ive read that battery is hit hard by lte use. So my question is how much battery does lte use over hspa in general?
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I get really good hspa+ speeds where i live. Good enough that im considering turning off 4g and going with just hspa. Ive read that battery is hit hard by lte use. So my question is how much battery does lte use over hspa in general?
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Alot more on my phone, battery drains twice as fast..
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LTE all day
Tomorrow I'll try HSPA+
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Tomorrow I'll try HSPA+
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I'm doing the same Except today I'm doing HSPA+, tomorrow will be LTE. It will be interesting to compare results.
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Tomorrow I'll try HSPA+
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Looks like you were having some pretty bad wake lock problems?
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I get really good hspa+ speeds where i live. Good enough that im considering turning off 4g and going with just hspa. Ive read that battery is hit hard by lte use. So my question is how much battery does lte use over hspa in general?
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Hspa+ is a form of 4G, so on Tmob USA when you're running on HSPA+ a 4G icon gets displayed.
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Hspa+ is a form of 4G, so on Tmob USA when you're running on HSPA+ a 4G icon gets displayed.
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Yeah kinda sorta i know. What i meant was, i have the option to use 4g or hspa+ on my phone. There is no "lte" option. I didnt bother with the US firmware.
Bialynia said:
Hspa+ is a form of 4G, so on Tmob USA when you're running on HSPA+ a 4G icon gets displayed.
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Um, I get an H+ icon on mine when I get HSPA+, and a 4G icon when on LTE.
NRG1975 said:
Um, I get an H+ icon on mine when I get HSPA+, and a 4G icon when on LTE.
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Interesting
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HSPA+ isn't 4G. Actually, LTE also isn't 4G because it isn't fully IMT-Advanced compliant and doesn't meet the requirements (LTE-Advanced does).
Iruwen said:
HSPA+ isn't 4G. Actually, LTE also isn't 4G because it isn't fully IMT-Advanced compliant and doesn't meet the requirements (LTE-Advanced does).
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My understanding, however, is on a UK firmware, such as I have LTE shows up as 4G. When you switch over to US firmware, the LTE icon actually shows up. Speeds are the exact same from understanding as well.
Yep, it's shown as 4G because it's already being marketed as such, LTE-Advanced (which meets the bandwidth requirement) only requires a base station software upgrade. Simply showing LTE like some firmwares do is more correct though. However, HSPA+ should never show 4G but H+.
Iruwen said:
Yep, it's shown as 4G because it's already being marketed as such, LTE-Advanced (which meets the bandwidth requirement) only requires a base station software upgrade. Simply showing LTE like some firmwares do is more correct though. However, HSPA+ should never show 4G but H+.
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We are on the same page then.
I use 2g and switch to 4g when I want to use the Internet.. Battery has lasted 3 days so far 9% left lol no stamina modes either
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I'm not using 4g and i switched between 3g and 2g (when i wasn't using the phone) and the result was really good. Played some 2d games and watched 45mins of youtube videos.
As you can see i was on the Phone very long today, Screen was around 20-30% brightness. Used some parts of Stamina Mode (don't know their english names but i guess: Advanced Stand-By Mode and Advanced Usage, i didn't use Stamina-Clock or "Ultra Stamina"). The runtime is comparable to my old phone that featured a 3100mAh Battery and a 4.3" screen.
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http://abload.de/img/sxz3cm5e1j.png
So I did my test. Used only HSPA+ on Thursday, LTE on Friday. No wifi at all. Went to work, used phone normally and as close to the same as possible. I'll post screenshots and more details tomorrow, but long story short... after 22 hours on HSPA+ I had 61% battery remaining. After 22 hours and change on LTE I had 60% battery remaining. No real difference.
Crewville96 said:
So I did my test. Used only HSPA+ on Thursday, LTE on Friday. No wifi at all. Went to work, used phone normally and as close to the same as possible. I'll post screenshots and more details tomorrow, but long story short... after 22 hours on HSPA+ I had 61% battery remaining. After 22 hours and change on LTE I had 60% battery remaining. No real difference.
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I'm on z1c but I've seen the same as you - no real difference in battery life between H+ and LTE.
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Could you guys repeat the test with actively using both connections?
You won't see a difference in stand by because both network modes offer power save modes. The biggest difference is while using them..
If you switch to 2g (and turn off Internet) you should still get a better result as the apps won't be able to use the connection and incoming calls / text messages should take less energy as in 3g/4g mode..
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wooki said:
Could you guys repeat the test with actively using both connections?
You won't see a difference in stand by because both network modes offer power save modes. The biggest difference is while using them..
If you switch to 2g (and turn off Internet) you should still get a better result as the apps won't be able to use the connection and incoming calls / text messages should take less energy as in 3g/4g mode..
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When I say I used LTE, what I mean is I had LTE enabled, and it was primarily used, but on my drive to work I go through a HSPA only territory. So for the LTE day, LTE and HSPA were both on. And this turning off internet thing is called Stamina Mode.
Alrighty, here is my HSPA+ vs LTE battery comparison extravaganza!! I tried to use the phone for the same amount of time, the same way, using roughly same amount of data, everything the same, both days. I took my phone off the charger at roughly 10pm both nights (I wanted the long cell connection overnight so I wouldn't have to rush to charge my phone before work in the morning). The TL;DR version is that there was no difference between H+ and LTE. For screenshot comparison of use between the two days, keep reading.
Phone taken off the charger at roughly 10pm, then left to sit there until roughly 6am the next morning.
HSPA+ (left)..................................................................................LTE (right)
Note that the only real difference is in signal strength.
OK, now on to the end of day numbers.
HSPA+ (left)..................................................................................LTE (right)
Slightly less SoT on the LTE day, but that is made up for by the added Pocket Casts use. Overall, no real difference except for signal strength. I'm just gonna leave my phone on LTE.