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After using Android on Touch for 2 months, I'm convinced that my next phone will be an Android phone. Now I need to convince my family members who want Iphone. Nobody has either Android phone or iphone at the moment.
I'm using Touch as a proxy for Android phone and my wife uses Ipod Touch as a proxy for Iphone. Unfortunately, it is obvious that Itouch blows Android Touch in terms of UI, speed and stability.
So my question is are android phones such as Droid, Incredible offer much more speed and stability (no FC) than Touch? I want to hear first hand experience rather than spec comparisons.
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I want to hear first hand experience rather than spec comparisons.
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then you are posting in the wrong forum; most of the frequenters here have the HTC Vogue: Touch CDMA . . .
I believe we've had several members graduate to a "android device" and they have had nothing but good results. Jamezelle I think was one of them, he got an Eris and loved it if I remember right.
There is a night and day difference is speed stability etc. The nexus one, or sony x10 for example run cpu's that are more than twice the speed of our vogue, and a better cpu to boot.
My friend has a sony x10, he compared it with a few of his buddies who have iphones and the screen quality itself was the biggest difference. Vilord got an incredible, went out with some of his iphone buddies, nothing held a candle to the incredible in terms of speed/screen quality.
android = more free apps, faster cpu's faster gpu's, more 'hacking/customizing' ability
iphone = ease of use for non technically oriented people, tons of commercial apps, yeah they cost but they mean better quality too.
Don't take me wrong, I obviously prefer android, but the iphone is also really nice, I wouldn't complain if I had one, especially since they're starting to be able to run android. lol
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After using Android on Touch for 2 months, I'm convinced that my next phone will be an Android phone. Now I need to convince my family members who want Iphone. Nobody has either Android phone or iphone at the moment.
I'm using Touch as a proxy for Android phone and my wife uses Ipod Touch as a proxy for Iphone. Unfortunately, it is obvious that Itouch blows Android Touch in terms of UI, speed and stability.
So my question is are android phones such as Droid, Incredible offer much more speed and stability (no FC) than Touch? I want to hear first hand experience rather than spec comparisons.
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I believe we've had several members graduate to a "android device" and they have had nothing but good results. Jamezelle I think was one of them, he got an Eris and loved it if I remember right.
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I'm going to say that I completely agree with this statement. I ran android on my touch for quite awhile and switched to an eris. I'll tell you it was a great move, not to knock the vogue, but the screen clarity/size, speed and capacitive touch + multi touch are a huge upgrade.
Being in this forum got me hooked on android, and consequently I had my vogue longer than any other phone in the past (my thanks go to the devs and the community), but I'm sure happy to have an upgrade. Now onto the incredible..
As for swaying people to use the native android devices, one of my buddies and my girlfriend have an iphone and a bb storm. When they saw android on my touch they kinda laughed at it and thought it was a "cool" novelty, crammed on my small device, but now that I have the eris, they both want an android phone. My girlfriend wants my eris when I get the incredible and my buddy is probably gonna sign a 2-year with vzw for the incredible, or get the nexus on t-mobile.
To each their own though, some people like the "simplicity" of the iphone, but when they actually see their options, they may want to change...
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After using Android on Touch for 2 months, I'm convinced that my next phone will be an Android phone. Now I need to convince my family members who want Iphone. Nobody has either Android phone or iphone at the moment.
I'm using Touch as a proxy for Android phone and my wife uses Ipod Touch as a proxy for Iphone. Unfortunately, it is obvious that Itouch blows Android Touch in terms of UI, speed and stability.
So my question is are android phones such as Droid, Incredible offer much more speed and stability (no FC) than Touch? I want to hear first hand experience rather than spec comparisons.
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I just graduated from the Vogue to the Incredible and as nice as the Vogue was running Android it doesn't compare to running Android on a native device for a few reasons.
A) Everything works out of the box (MMS, GPS, Bluetooth, etc)
B) Way faster (No slow downs, freezes, reboots, etc)
C) Multi-touch (Capacitive vs Resistive)
D) Bigger and brightrer screens. (3.2in or more vs 2.8in)
The Vogue running Android is definitely ready for daily use and its more than a side step to a native phone but it still a bit short of the new phones. Also consider the age of the device. Its amazing how much extra life Android has given this device but its just not a fair comparison.
I love my Vogue and kept it for 26 months only because of Android. Bottom line, if you think Android is nice on the Vogue, you will think its awesome on and actual Android device
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Don't take me wrong, I obviously prefer android, but the iphone is also really nice, I wouldn't complain if I had one, especially since they're starting to be able to run android. lol
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hehe. I was thinking about that the other night. At this point I think an iPhone would be a pretty sweet device to have. The best of both worlds.
I've seen the YouTube videos of it running Android and it appears to be running pretty good.
I had an iPhone for a couple months. Honestly I prefer even Windows Mobile.
Yes the iphone is beautiful, shiny, all that jazz great apps don't get me wrong, it's fantastic.
BUT
I mean this in the most sincere way - I firmly feel it is NOT your device. Apple's name is written all over every aspect of your device. I'd compare it best to communist Russia - good overall standard of living maybe, but no individuality, no choice, nothing. Sure there's cyanomod (sp) but the breaking point for me was when my iphone was having a problem and the only way to fix the problem is plug it in and resync / restore with itunes (epic facepalm).
Now Android is leaps and bounds ahead of Winmo, with regards to UI, but truthfully, just being able to troubleshoot your own device, having those errors here and there, it really is something to be appreciated when you are on a device that is owned by someone else. I can only imagine how wonderful it must be to have a droid or nexus one - I dream of it as a present day utopia.
Whatever you do, make sure you really try the iphone and see if you can really make peace with it. I absolutely could not. Everything is completely dumbed down. Don't get me wrong - I'm all for the ease of use and minimalist experience, but I feel Android strikes the right balance - flush between iPhone and Win Mo. YMMV, maybe you like your phone to just do what it's told and have no connection to it. For me, I get quite emotional with these little things. Pretty soon I'm going to have to buy a ring for this Vogue, it's going on 3 years...
Call me corny, I just feel NO emotional connection to the iPhone. I feel like it was just handed to us and we're told this is your phone, use it. Almost like going to a public library and lending out a computer but you can't do anything to it.
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one of my buddies and my girlfriend have an iphone and a bb storm. When they saw android on my touch they kinda laughed at it and thought it was a "cool" novelty, crammed on my small device
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That is so funny...it was like I was reading a post about myself in the 3rd person or something....That is the exact same reaction I received from my g/f and her brother who rocks the BB Storm...but the funny thing is, last week, he asked me what I thought about the incredible because he is now thinking of making the switch from BB. Who's laughing now!
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I had an iPhone for a couple months. Honestly I prefer even Windows Mobile.
Yes the iphone is beautiful, shiny, all that jazz great apps don't get me wrong, it's fantastic.
BUT
I mean this in the most sincere way - I firmly feel it is NOT your device. Apple's name is written all over every aspect of your device. I'd compare it best to communist Russia - good overall standard of living maybe, but no individuality, no choice, nothing. Sure there's cyanomod (sp) but the breaking point for me was when my iphone was having a problem and the only way to fix the problem is plug it in and resync / restore with itunes (epic facepalm).
Now Android is leaps and bounds ahead of Winmo, with regards to UI, but truthfully, just being able to troubleshoot your own device, having those errors here and there, it really is something to be appreciated when you are on a device that is owned by someone else. I can only imagine how wonderful it must be to have a droid or nexus one - I dream of it as a present day utopia.
Whatever you do, make sure you really try the iphone and see if you can really make peace with it. I absolutely could not. Everything is completely dumbed down. Don't get me wrong - I'm all for the ease of use and minimalist experience, but I feel Android strikes the right balance - flush between iPhone and Win Mo. YMMV, maybe you like your phone to just do what it's told and have no connection to it. For me, I get quite emotional with these little things. Pretty soon I'm going to have to buy a ring for this Vogue, it's going on 3 years...
Call me corny, I just feel NO emotional connection to the iPhone. I feel like it was just handed to us and we're told this is your phone, use it. Almost like going to a public library and lending out a computer but you can't do anything to it.
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I agree 100%. I'm sold with Android. I like to tweak things to make it work.
But my family members like simplicity over functionality. They don't even know what jailbreak means. Nevertheless, they like Ipod touch. Go figure.
I have to convince them that the new Android phones just work out of box. As you can expect, demonstrating Android using HTC Touch won't make them convinced.
I am supposed to get a business demo of the Incredible, so Ill report back here. They're apparently on back order even for business demos, so it might be a week or two. I currently have the xv6900 running on Verizon with Myns RLS5 on NAND.
yes i have also graduated from my vogue to an eris, and then to the motodroid, and android is 300% better than it was on my vogue
Up until got the HTC TOUCH (VOGUE) My friends would laugh at me and ask "OK what phone did you get now?" I would literally go thru a phone every 7-9 months. Until the Vogue came into my life. Sure everyone got BlackBerries and iPHONE's, but I would never have enough incentive to move over. I have been using using Myn's ANDROID on my touch for the last 90 days and it gets better with every release, but I still get hiccups and crashes from time to time. Sometime the phone will lockup completely. (granted I am running off a CLASS 4 SD card) I just love the form factor of the device. HTC really got it right when they released this phone. But alas .... now that I have a taste for ANDROID I know that my next device will probably be the HTC EVO on sprint.
Hi guys, I currently own a G2 (That I love) and you can see my device history in my sig, which clearly states that I'm an android fan.
However, I always love to try new things, and I'm really liking the simplicity of WP7 as well as the Zune music player.
So I was thinking, the HD7 is damn cheap on eBay right now, why not get one?
Please leave below why I should or should not get an HD7 to use along side my G2 (not at the same time of course).
Thanks!
(this thread is meant to be a reference for future buyers as well, so be critical!)
I am a Android user since the G1 as well. Since 2008: G1, MT3G, iPhone, HD2, Nexus One, HD2 (again) running Android, BB9700, Vibrant, MT4G now a HD7. So you can see we have similar experience.
That being said the HD7 is far better than any Android in the refinement/smoothness/response of the OS. As soon as you leave the native OS however that goes away. I have not found one app from the market that performs like the rest of the phone does. The market apps are slow, gittery and at this point not the most rewarding experience.
I am confident issues like these will improve with time; I am sure you remember looking at a black screen on the G1 alot of the time.
WP7 is a breeze to use and I actually like it. The keyboard is the best I have used period. WP7 is missing alot of key features but for a brand new OS that has been out only a couple months it is pretty good, much better than Android was in Oct 2008, remember waiting for "Cupcake"?
WP7 is due for a couple updates in the first half of 2011, I anticipate some major improvements if Microsoft plans of capturing market share.
So to answer your question should you get one? I would, thats exactly what I did. The Zune integration is great and if you like games XBOX is all over this phone. WP7 is Microsoft's iOS, it has its own eco system which makes for a nice experience.
i really really want to buy hd7 but i really really want atleast the ability to transfer photos by bluetooth... rest of the cons can be neglected as far as i am concerned. but i will wait for new devices and updates to the software. currently it can be said that hd7 is not the very best of the lot. its better to wait. rest depends from person to person
Love my HD7 too. Though I must admit I also miss my HD2
Looks pretty positive. Polar opposites of what the reviewers said.
I think WP7 has potential. I remember on the G1 how ridiculously awful every application was.
It will be great with an update.
I have been with t mobile for years. I have used a iphone, a g1, nexus one, hd2, and now on the hd7. I miss some things like, copy and paste, custom ringtones, and tethering, but I like the user interface better than anything I have used so far. I think an update, which is rumored to be hitting next month (1/11), would hopefully bring some of these things to the software and that will really make this phone tops in its class.
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Hi guys, I currently own a G2 (That I love) and you can see my device history in my sig, which clearly states that I'm an android fan.
However, I always love to try new things, and I'm really liking the simplicity of WP7 as well as the Zune music player.
So I was thinking, the HD7 is damn cheap on eBay right now, why not get one?
Please leave below why I should or should not get an HD7 to use along side my G2 (not at the same time of course).
Thanks!
(this thread is meant to be a reference for future buyers as well, so be critical!)
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I really like the phone. The OS makes it feel like an "adult" phone to me. I am coming from an iPhone 4 and Samsung Vibrant. I also like the aesthetics of the phone as well, although I am trying to see if I could ever get a peek at the Dell Venue Pro in person...
The only things I am missing are: Wifi calling and tethering.
Annoyances are: lack of skype, lack of twitter integration in the People hub, and inability to sync multiple Google Calendars.
However, I am more than happy to work around those things and I am enjoying the phone immensely. I am getting poor battery life, but I think that's because it's fresh eye candy and I'm playing with the phone alot.
Also, the Zune Pass saved me from buying two trashy albums already!!!
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I really like the phone. The OS makes it feel like an "adult" phone to me. I am coming from an iPhone 4 and Samsung Vibrant. I also like the aesthetics of the phone as well, although I am trying to see if I could ever get a peek at the Dell Venue Pro in person...
The only things I am missing are: Wifi calling and tethering.
Annoyances are: lack of skype, lack of twitter integration in the People hub, and inability to sync multiple Google Calendars.
However, I am more than happy to work around those things and I am enjoying the phone immensely. I am getting poor battery life, but I think that's because it's fresh eye candy and I'm playing with the phone alot.
Also, the Zune Pass saved me from buying two trashy albums already!!!
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Wow, sounds awesome, as I don't use those things.
The Venue Pro is a POS by the way. I used one at my Microsoft store and it was just terrible. It really felt like plastic. I'm sure you know what I mean if you're coming from a vibrant.
The hinge was pretty bad too. And the keyboard wasn't very nice. Plus, it looks awkward as hell.
Similar thread with poll already exist
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9353155&postcount=1
I really like my hd7 and windows phone 7 because it fits my needs and daily usage. I mean yeah, it lacks a few things such as copy and paste, tethering and multitasking but what a lot of people don't understand that this a fresh, brand new operating system still in its infancy and with Microsoft's big updates coming next month and etc, I think that wp7 will give Android and IOS a run for its money. As for my personal opinion, my hd7 is fast and I can't wait for the upcoming update. Plus everything works out of the box. The email syncing is great, Facebook integration is amazing and the marketplace is really evolving. I have all the apps I really need and they were free.
The hd7 itself feels really sturdy and has a great build quality to it. I don't really care for the camera because I have my canon 5d mark II for that.
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Wow, sounds awesome, as I don't use those things.
The Venue Pro is a POS by the way. I used one at my Microsoft store and it was just terrible. It really felt like plastic. I'm sure you know what I mean if you're coming from a vibrant.
The hinge was pretty bad too. And the keyboard wasn't very nice. Plus, it looks awkward as hell.
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*lol* Thanks for the input... I've read differently in the reviews, but if it's anything close to the Vibrant, you're right, I want NO part of it... The RAM controversy with it is driving me away also... so we'll see.....
alesscam said:
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not similar at all. sorry.
i think the phone is worth it. I prefer it to android and ios simply because it is more visually elegant. the one thing that i really appreciate is the integration. All i did was log into gmail, facebook and live and the phone combined all my contacts correctly. there were a dozen names i had to manually set but that was due to them appearing as different contacts (i.e. different names and details).
There are a lot missing but what is there is delightful.
3rd party apps are hit and miss. Alot are not as elegant but some, like nyt app, are really elegant. my initial fear that most developers would not understand the design convention and principles seem to have been true; so far. Metro UI/design is much more abstract than the android/ios designs; which tend to be much more literal.
If you are into taking pictures with your phone, this phone is not the phone for you. If you can deal with blurry pictures it is a great phone
I miss Android only for it's amount of apps but this phone is the best to me on tmobile
What it lacks in functionality it makes up twice as more in User experience
and once it's functionality is onpar with Android, it will be even better
HTC HD7
hey guys just placed my order for it.. should be in my hands in a couple of days.. really excited cos its my first windows phone rather than the a wp7 for that matter. i have been using a galaxy s from the past 4 months and got fed up of delayed updates.. and the whole fragmented system.. The metro UI although new looks more mature and more like one piece. Was actually waiting for a UI overhaul in Gingerbread but seems like that will appear in honeycomb.. but that still is no match fr WP7.. Btw i know this is a bit off topic but have any off you guys have any problems with the touch sensitivity of the screen of the HD7?
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hey guys just placed my order for it.. should be in my hands in a couple of days.. really excited cos its my first windows phone rather than the a wp7 for that matter. i have been using a galaxy s from the past 4 months and got fed up of delayed updates.. and the whole fragmented system.. The metro UI although new looks more mature and more like one piece. Was actually waiting for a UI overhaul in Gingerbread but seems like that will appear in honeycomb.. but that still is no match fr WP7.. Btw i know this is a bit off topic but have any off you guys have any problems with the touch sensitivity of the screen of the HD7?
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I have a problem with the program 'moBudget' in which there is a tiny 8pt font link that I have trouble getting to... But other than that, I haven't noticed many problems; although, I am certain I've had to double tap somethings since I have had the phone. Overall, probably 8/10...
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I have a problem with the program 'moBudget' in which there is a tiny 8pt font link that I have trouble getting to... But other than that, I haven't noticed many problems; although, I am certain I've had to double tap somethings since I have had the phone. Overall, probably 8/10...
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Cool thanks. hope all goes good with piece that i ordered
I posted this on another board a few days ago... Comparing a Desire HD to a HD7
Bought a Desire HD yesterday (£240 brand new from CEX - traded some stuff in) seems pretty nice, seems like an improvement over the Desire - some nice little tweaks across the whole Sense experiance.
Strangely my problem is not with the Desire HD itself, its with Andriod. Last month I had a WP7 - HD7 land in my lap. They are pretty much the same unit (except for the camera) same form factor with some different button placement. In recent months i've been taking a step back from my whole "Smartphone" experinence. Re evaluating what i use it for and how i use it.
Essentials:
PIM functions (calendar, mail etc)
A bit of Gaming
Access to the news (tech, local, National, International, Gaming, entertainment etc)
Music & Media
As long as i have those i'm happy. Its all well and good having 1,000,000 apps but if you only use 5 its pretty pointless. So what you need to know is do they have the ones you want?
My first impression of the DHD was what the hell did HTC do with the cover at the back? It doesn't fit properly. Its not flush at the sides - the Engadget review mentions it too so its not just my example. Seems a shame that after designing a beautiful flagship device you let it down with something so minor. Other than that though its pretty nice.
Once i turned it on i was impressed by the speed - how quick does this baby boot!! However, after that my problems returned. Problems might be the wrong word here, what struck me was the complexity of the Robot after a almost a month with WP7. Andriod feels bloated and fat and the handset can be a little sluggish at times which concidering the speed of the CPU is a disappointment. It took me a while to get it setup as i like it, so its now almost a a carbon copy of my old Desire (only its not rooted yet). WP7 "Metro UI" is like a breath of fresh air compared to Andriod. After all Andriod is pretty much iOS (minus the widgets) 4x4 icons across several screens with app icons to press. Granted the intergation of the OS is much more pronounced than iOS which is just an app launcher at the end day and works in Andriods favour, however it can make it an unweldy beast to setup. Metro works on an almost 3D layed effect using different images that scroll at different speeds. Its hard to explain you have ot se it. the IMDb app is beautiful to look at and looks better than any other version odf it i've seen. There is a lot of potential in "Metro". I will offer a word of caution though. It can have the habit of chopping of the end of words in some menus, your eiher going to like this or hate it.
WP7 is a breeze to setup but thats because there isn't much to setup. Instead of the usual "4x4" arrangment and screens that move left to right (or vice versa) WP7 opts for a vertical menu that is as long as you want it to be. instead of icons they arte callled "tiles" and some of them are "live tiles". This means that they constntly update with info. For example, if you place a contact tile on ou homescreen it will show a picture of them and their latest facebook update. You can add tiles for apps, contacts, albums, artists. Its a very nice way of doing things slightly differently from iOS and Andriod.
The one thing that Andriod does very badly is Music, yes it has lots of good music players but syncing music/podcasts etc is a pain compered to the iPhone. WP7 doesn't have this problem as it uses "Zune" and the streaming music service and it is lovely, very easy to use and very fast and is present across my whole network. The intergration with my PC, existing music collection and my Xbox 360 is pretty seemless. Andriod cant compete with that i'm afriad. I'd even go as far to say that anyone using a Windows PC would benefit from this over using iTunes and an iPhone 4. iTunes was always a dog on a PC. Zune is a very competent peice of software. It's fast and very easy to use, is fully featured and easily ass good at iTunes in terms of functionality.
It would be unfair not to mention "GAMING". The "Xbox Live" brand will have this one nailed in a very short space of time. The games i have so far are excellent, yes some of them have cost me money but hey you get what you pay for. Its been a buzz to get "Achievements" on the train on the way to work. Andriod is hampered by the broad tech base of the handsets - different resolutions etc.
So App stores? the Andriod market is dauting place i think most of us would agree it has a lot of diamonds in the rough and a lot of rubbish apps but i guess thats the nature of "open source". But it has most of the things you want. The WP7 "marketplace" is growing at around 150 apps a day and i have to say some of them are pretty impressive. Because M$ have choosen to follow apple with the walled garden approach the quality of the apps is very good. Its still got a very long way to go but what i've seen so far the quality will be threre
WP7 has a number of week spots mostly around calendars and PIM fuctions that are not good as Andriod, but that said i am a "Google" user I was disappointed to find out that the calendar cant handle multiple calendars (i had 11 different ones covering different aspects of my life) I'm sure they will fix this an fure updates as "outlook" calendars already work. I'm not sure if i will keep the DHD at this stage as i'm missing the simplicity of WP7 and its intergration with my home network/PC and xbox live. Its a very nice device but im not sure, i think M$ may have just won me back.
Before it came out i was very dismissive of WP7 "why are M$ bothering" "it will be rubbish". I was wrong, very wrong. Botton line, this is the best OS first release of an OS I've seen. It feels far more complete than either early Andriod or iPhone releases. Its an excellent effort. However, it still go some way to go before it catches up with iOS or the Robot. It will be one to watch in the coming years, be real interesting to see what its like in a couple of years.
I think discusing the hardware is a bit of moot point but if i had to pick, i'd like WP7 on the DHD hardware - the DHD is without doubt one of the finest peices of hardware i've ever used, its beautiful, i can see why DHD owners are so happy with it.
I predicted sometime ago that Andriod WILL be the dominant phone OS and see no reason to change that prediction. Wheather WP7 can catch up to iOS is hugely debatable going forward but this is a very solid start and i am totally smitten with it, there is a lot to love and even more to like. It nice to know that i will never have to install iTunes again as i have TWO solid choices for smartphone OS other than the dreaded fruit mobile and the guy with only one set of clothes.
I dont think its the finished article by a long way. But it really does show great promise. Indeed, right now i have HD7 and DHD on my desk and my chosen daily phone is the WP7 device. In many areas nowhere near as good as Andriod but I can overlook them because i just love how it works, it feels light and nimble to use. I dont want anyone to think i have a downer on the DHD or Andriod I love them both. But right now its WP7 thats floating my boat. Its going to be interesting to watch it develop in the coming years.
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Im in the same boat. Im a big Android guy but I love the look and feel of WP7. Every time i pass by the tmobile store i stop in and play with the HD7. Just saw one on craigslist for a good price, think i might finally dive in.
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Im in the same boat. Im a big Android guy but I love the look and feel of WP7. Every time i pass by the tmobile store i stop in and play with the HD7. Just saw one on craigslist for a good price, think i might finally dive in.
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same...my G2 is great but WP7 is so sexy
It just crossed my mind, but I have no idea. Is development for BB possible at all? IMO it'd be pretty awesome having android on a BB. Flame as you wish, just a random though.
love my blackberry bro
Blackberries are fast rising among my friends but if it weren't for the closeness and all I'd have gotten one. Just most android keyboard phones are landscape qwerty or if its portrait qwerty its not slide :/
I want speed+keyboard.
Depends on the bb you talk about I guess. The storm 2, yes. The torch, yes. the bold/curve/pearl? Would be kinda hard/impossible since android uses the touch screen as its main input and that they don't have enough rom for android.
Either way, why would you want to put android on a bb? A bb is a premium device for bb service/messenger. Those are the main reasons people buy a bb anyways. If you eliminate the reasons, then you really shouldn't have gotten a bb at all.
Also I'm pretty sure the bbs share no common processors/hardware with any android device so that would definitely be a problem in terms of developing drivers.
The reason a number of people get blackberries are because of the great battery life and the fact that it's simplicity compared to phones that are all touchscreen and modern. They're pretty much phones for old people and stupid people. However it is damn near impossible because of the lack of common hardware.
I see I see. Well that makes sense and it was just out of curiosity. I myself have a dhd just now I realise how much I miss a keyboard. ah well swype e will do but thanks guys your reasons make sense
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The reason a number of people get blackberries are because of the great battery life and the fact that it's simplicity compared to phones that are all touchscreen and modern. They're pretty much phones for old people and stupid people. However it is damn near impossible because of the lack of common hardware.
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What a ****load of posting...
Blackberry for old and stupid people... LMAO... I just wondered about your intelligence, then i realized you are from Texas, that explained a lot...
The people who own blackberrys are the ones who are not intelligent enough to understand any other device. The only redeeming features of those burnt out old things is BBM and the battery life. Way to generalize though, totally makes you sound intelligent.
I don't see how a bb is any different in term os simplicity to a android, winmo, WP7 phone.
Because you can't necassrily hack/customize/tweak/load a custom rom onto your bb it is simple?
Okie but lets remember that majority of smartphone users do not do any of the such, so does that mean they fall into the category of old/stupid people because they lack the curiosity to explore their device?
In terms of settings available for a bb compared to all other OSes, its the same amount, so that also can't be it.
The user interface is reminiscent of winmo with sense really so that can't be it.
If any OS is simple, i'd say it is the iOS/WP7. It's so simple it's making billions.
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I don't see how a bb is any different in term os simplicity to a android, winmo, WP7 phone.
Because you can't necassrily hack/customize/tweak/load a custom rom onto your bb it is simple?
Okie but lets remember that majority of smartphone users do not do any of the such, so does that mean they fall into the category of old/stupid people because they lack the curiosity to explore their device?
In terms of settings available for a bb compared to all other OSes, its the same amount, so that also can't be it.
The user interface is reminiscent of winmo with sense really so that can't be it.
If any OS is simple, i'd say it is the iOS/WP7. It's so simple it's making billions.
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It's more simple in the fact that it really hasnt evolved too much. I mean I can accomplish nearly the same amount on a 3-4 year old blackberry as I can today and do it with better battery life and without the almost absolute necessity to have a data plan before I can do anything. That's another thing, its a PITA to get a blackberry going without a data plan. As a whole everything feels just over-simplified and that comes from a devout WP7 follower who praises WP7 for it's perfect balance of simplicity.
That doesn't refer to simplicity at all. What you should refer to it as, it has stagnant growth, just pointing out. Well, however you said that is how you feel and that is your opinion.
hi all,
this is my first full post here on xda... i have been a member for a few years now and thought i should write something the community may agree/dispute/love/hate
and so...
here it is...
i have titled this my confession as basically it is a confession... its something i have put off for quite some time now...
i am a major windows mobile fan... from way back when with my o2 xda to my hd2... i love it and everything about it... its a faithful, hardworking, do it all mobile os... i had touchscreen phones and pda's long before the touchscreen hype came in... back when my friends still had the nokia hype, with changable cases and envious battery life... anything they could do, i could do better... just for the 6 or so hours my battery gave me... then devices evolved (slowly at first) o2 xda ii then some more...mda vario... htc elf (touch) then a blackberry (never again!!!!) had that for a very short time... then got myself a tytn ii... windows mobile with real power... filled it with spb software... had android running from sd... was my first real do it all phone...
then time and age became an issue... my hardware was restricting me... software can only go so far... so the time came for an upgrade... in steps the amazing 4.3" multi touch, capacative, 1ghz powerhouse that is the hd2... running the latest and greatest version of windows mobile with a sexy sense ui draped over the top...
soon as it was released here in england i was at my local phone shop and signing up to an 18 month contract...
soon after this, a nice hspl came along which meant 1 thing to me, and 1 thing only... custom rom goodness... oh, i went through every rom imaginable... (i believe the term for this is ord or obsessive rom-flashing disorder)
i finally settled on energy roms... loved the speed, looks and the sheer number of different flavours nrgz28 offered...
then shock horror... i dropped my hd2 and smashed the digitizer... a job i would usually do myself but after the cost of the screen (£100) and what a local phone shop quoted me (£120) i decided to let them deal with the annoying job...
BIG MISTAKE!!!! basically ruined the ribbon for my volume keys and lost the glass that makes the proximity and light sensors work... they had it for about 2months... and so after a big row with them i had half my money refunded and my fone returned with a new screen but still a little sick... broken hd2 of ebay was the answer as during this time the first windows phone software was ready and waiting for my approval... so phone fixed, wp7 flashed the end....
or not... after a few minutes with wp7 i noticed simple features were missing... like copy/paste... i was unable to download any media onto my device... a big disappointment... what ever happened to microsoft??? took a beautiful thing and just destroyed it... why try and be like the iphone when waht u had was so much better...
tutt tutt...
now... down to the confession... after this utter shock from windows i decided to try android out... had it running from sd for quite some time, but thought its time to try nand and reap the benefits... so away i go... first a galaxy s rom... pretty impressive, but still lacking that spark... then a few newer builds and versions surfaced... had the desire hd rom... was nice... then i got a whiff of gingerbread goodness... started really liking the leaps and bounds the still young os was offering... then on... 2.3... 2.3.3... 2.3.5... ect... each time getting a little better... the finally ics...
ics hit the hd2 like an ice cream hitting a sensative tooth... bang! on it went and wow... im really impressed... feels like this is what wp7 should have been...
it stank of winmo customizability... ate up everything i did to it and seemed like this is how its meant to be...
android on my hd2 felt so right but also so wrong... whats going on?? im singing the praises of a winmo competitor... whats happened to me?? am i sick?? have i hit my head?? i really cant place my finger on it...
so my confession is this secret love affair i have had with android... cheating on winmo for so long... so i have decided to come clean... cant keep this cherade up any longer...
sorry winmo, i do, and always will love u... we had many brilliant times together... ones i will always remember... its not you, its me... i have met someone else and she makes me happy now... so im going to admit this now and confirm its over between us... im so so so truly very sorry...
i hope you can find it in your heart to forgive me and we can still be friends... u have influenced me and made me who i am today and 4 that i thank you
so... heres the start of not having to hide my new love... 1 i hope will last forever...
....So i bet your thinking "why did i just sit and read this crap??" its coz maybe secretly u have the same love affair? or u were actually hoping to find out some real murderers confession? or your just bored? whatever the reason, u now know where my heart lies...
maybe its time for u all to think where exactly ur heart lies...
food for thought...
thanks for reading
luke (android lover)
I've only been an Android guy. Today I went and played with some WinMo 8 devices and was impressed by the general UI and the screen clarity. That was about it though... the OS was hard to navigate and I got lost in it a few times... didn't like the Carl Zeiss on the Lumia 900 either...
So, I will be getting either the next Nexus or the Galaxy Nexus, depending on if the new one is out... And as you said ICS is a beautiful thing!!!
I want to rip the camera sensor off of the Pureview 808 (runs Belle) and slap it on Android.
GMIUInfuse
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I've only been an Android guy. Today I went and played with some WinMo 8 devices and was impressed by the general UI and the screen clarity. That was about it though... the OS was hard to navigate and I got lost in it a few times... didn't like the Carl Zeiss on the Lumia 900 either...
So, I will be getting either the next Nexus or the Galaxy Nexus, depending on if the new one is out... And as you said ICS is a beautiful thing!!!
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There's no winmo 8 or even windows phone 8 yet.
As a whole, ICS feels like the same stuttery unintuitive mess I got from all other android builds, but I guess if winmo was your bag you grow accustomed to sacrificing performance and usability for a more feature enriched ecosystem.
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As a whole, ICS feels like the same stuttery unintuitive mess I got from all other android builds, but I guess if winmo was your bag you grow accustomed to sacrificing performance and usability for a more feature enriched ecosystem.
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well if all android builds are stuttery unintuitive mess's then u maybe need to try another device... my hd2 runs android like a dream... if i didnt know better, it could be the native os...
im unaware of what performance and usability im sacrificing... as my phone performs just as quick if not quicker than winmo ever did... even with energyroms... boot time is quicker... battery life is better... its a more finger friendly os than winmo...
i see ur a windows fan still... each to their own... as a whole, iv never rated nokia as a manufacturer of high end devices, but their deal with microsoft was the best thing they could have ever done... meego, symbian and the other crap they used to ship their devices with was a joke...
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I've only been an Android guy. Today I went and played with some WinMo 8 devices and was impressed by the general UI and the screen clarity. That was about it though... the OS was hard to navigate and I got lost in it a few times... didn't like the Carl Zeiss on the Lumia 900 either...
So, I will be getting either the next Nexus or the Galaxy Nexus, depending on if the new one is out... And as you said ICS is a beautiful thing!!!
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the ui (metro) can be downloaded from google play for free if u like the ui... screen clarity is down to the device really... wp7 is quick but really lacks any kind of spark for me... and coming from winmo, i really wanted to love wp7 but i just dont...
as for an upgrade id always suggest htc... kies for the samsung devices is the worst piece of software ever written... and theres just something about sony ericsson devices that feels cheap to me... if memory serves (which it probabily dont) the first nexus was made by htc... a few of them were made by samsung... dont hold me to that
You can't download the UI, you can download a cheap, laggy imitation that almost drove me from wp7 initially because I thought that was all it was. You don't sacrifice speed or stability from winmo to android because they're both stuttery and unstable. Winmo felt like a beta OS, android continued on that beta. Wp7 feels like something more solid and complete in comparison.
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You can't download the UI, you can download a cheap, laggy imitation that almost drove me from wp7 initially because I thought that was all it was.
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launcher 7's not laggy, lol. It is somewhat limited atm, but live tiles are coming very soon.
In comparison to the real deal, it's laggy. Android simply isn't built to be smooth. Honestly, winmo is better built, had they improved the UI, worked on the hardware, and built a viable marketplace, they'd have Android's spot. Unfortunately, Bill Gates wanted a mobile version of windows... He was the only one.
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In comparison to the real deal, it's laggy.
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Like this water flowing over a leaf is laggier than that water flowing over a leaf, I'm sure.
No, android stutters due to a number of factors. Windows Phone takes measures to prevent such things. Launcher 7 is disappointing, it almost drove me from windows phone before I'd tried it because I installed it and thought, "So this is all WP7 is? Boring." Then I got a cheap HD7, even that tired old device blew away anything else on the market in terms of fluidity and speed.
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No, android stutters due to a number of factors.
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I've noticed you keep trying to change your focus, from "Launcher 7" to "Android". Composition fallacy?
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Launcher 7 is disappointing, it almost drove me from windows phone before I'd tried it because I installed it and thought, "So this is all WP7 is? Boring."
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WP is indeed more than what Launcher 7 is.. but not by much, and the gap gets smaller everyday.
Ok, I'll make a small confession too then, shall I?
To be honest WP7 looks like a very well designed and consistent OS to me, but as any other it has its own bugs. Sure it's quite stable, especially compared to Gingerbread, but it's no Swiss watch by any mean. For example, people criticise Android because of force closes, but honestly WP7 isn't very different: at times you tap on some app and you get kicked back to your home screen, and you can't fix it without rebooting the phone or even reinstalling the app from scratch, eventally losing all of your settings. Sure you don't get the "force close" message, but this actually IS a force close. Talking about lag, I can't really say that WP7 is as consistent as some tend to describe it. Sure I'm insanely fast at typing, but at times the input is delayed, and in many situations the ICS keyboard on my SGS2 was generally faster and more fluid.
This said, I like the idea of WP7 a LOT. I love the design of every single thing, everything has been made with very good taste and always keeping the focus on user experience. I've been using WP7 for about 5 months now, and honestly I wouldn't go back. I think that WP7 is really close to perfect as a PHONE OS (for my perosnal taste at least), because let's face it: first of all a phone should be something you use for keeping in touch, doing some light browsing/tweeting and enjoying some media content on the go. Some people say that Android has more features and is generally better for so called "power users". I used to think that too, but honestly, growing up a little and actually starting to have a real life and some sort of job I came to think that phones in general are not really meant for power users. Now I know I'm on XDA, right? Don't kill me please, just let me explain. A phone has some really annoying features: small battery, small screen (yes, they generally are small, and good luck carrying a Note without cargo pants, or either operate it with one hand), and last but not least, people can always call/text/mail you when your doing your ****s. For a REAL power user this should be annoying, right? For me the best solution would be carrying an Android tablet and a WP7 device, so you can have a good and reliable communication device, fast and easy to use, AND a tablet for doing the real business as a real laptop replacement, or even just for tinkering, trying ROMs, gaming and all that jazz. A tablet has a huge battery, a very enjoyable screen and when you're using it people can still reach you on your phone without bothering you too much.
This summer I'll be definitely getting a good 10" slate with ICS on board, but I guess I won't be using it anymore as a phone OS. WP7 is my ideal phone OS: it's reliable, good looking and easy to use, and it helps me keeping focused on what really matters in my life: work, sports, friends and girls. An Android PHONE is probably too much for me, I'm too easily distracted. Now this is my very personal story, and my very personal preferences. Everyone should be enjoying his phone (and his life of course), hating is pointless. Peace out
i bet my "tired old hd2" will out perform your young, perky NOKIA... and i reckon it wont just be the hardware that makes the difference... u must have had some really bad versions of android because iv not had 1 laggy, slow or memory hungry version... and i have NEVER owned an android phone...
android supports 3d which no other platform has... supports quad core... wp7 cant yet support dual core... windows has been around since the dinosaurs and STILL lacks a decent marketplace...
android over wp7 any day...
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Ok, I'll make a small confession too then, shall I?
To be honest WP7 looks like a very well designed and consistent OS to me, but as any other it has its own bugs. Sure it's quite stable, especially compared to Gingerbread, but it's no Swiss watch by any mean. For example, people criticise Android because of force closes, but honestly WP7 isn't very different: at times you tap on some app and you get kicked back to your home screen, and you can't fix it without rebooting the phone or even reinstalling the app from scratch, eventally losing all of your settings. Sure you don't get the "force close" message, but this actually IS a force close. Talking about lag, I can't really say that WP7 is as consistent as some tend to describe it. Sure I'm insanely fast at typing, but at times the input is delayed, and in many situations the ICS keyboard on my SGS2 was generally faster and more fluid.
This said, I like the idea of WP7 a LOT. I love the design of every single thing, everything has been made with very good taste and always keeping the focus on user experience. I've been using WP7 for about 5 months now, and honestly I wouldn't go back. I think that WP7 is really close to perfect as a PHONE OS (for my perosnal taste at least), because let's face it: first of all a phone should be something you use for keeping in touch, doing some light browsing/tweeting and enjoying some media content on the go. Some people say that Android has more features and is generally better for so called "power users". I used to think that too, but honestly, growing up a little and actually starting to have a real life and some sort of job I came to think that phones in general are not really meant for power users. Now I know I'm on XDA, right? Don't kill me please, just let me explain. A phone has some really annoying features: small battery, small screen (yes, they generally are small, and good luck carrying a Note without cargo pants, or either operate it with one hand), and last but not least, people can always call/text/mail you when your doing your ****s. For a REAL power user this should be annoying, right? For me the best solution would be carrying an Android tablet and a WP7 device, so you can have a good and reliable communication device, fast and easy to use, AND a tablet for doing the real business as a real laptop replacement, or even just for tinkering, trying ROMs, gaming and all that jazz. A tablet has a huge battery, a very enjoyable screen and when you're using it people can still reach you on your phone without bothering you too much.
This summer I'll be definitely getting a good 10" slate with ICS on board, but I guess I won't be using it anymore as a phone OS. WP7 is my ideal phone OS: it's reliable, good looking and easy to use, and it helps me keeping focused on what really matters in my life: work, sports, friends and girls. An Android PHONE is probably too much for me, I'm too easily distracted. Now this is my very personal story, and my very personal preferences. Everyone should be enjoying his phone (and his life of course), hating is pointless. Peace out
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well said... and yes, its all down to preference... theres many (stupid) people that believe the i phony or crapberry is the way forward... not at all... i believe its android... i rarely have force closes... beyond that i have no problems at all with android on my WINDOWS MOBILE device...
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well said... and yes, its all down to preference... theres many (stupid) people that believe the i phony or crapberry is the way forward... not at all... i believe its android... i rarely have force closes... beyond that i have no problems at all with android on my WINDOWS MOBILE device...
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Android actually is a really good all around platform. I guess it's the best pick for many, if not most people these days: you can get it on any sort of device at any price. Also, not everybody can afford both a phone and a tablet, and Android is definitely the best all arounder. Also, the fact that it tends to look familiar to previous Symbian, iOS, BBOS and even WM users makes it appeal to many. Anyway I always hope that every single platform out there manages to survive and succeed at some extent, without some tough competitors Android would become stale in a few years like Symbian and BBOS. Actually the fact that it doesn't belong to a single OEM is a big boost for the platform as a whole already. Future still looks very bright for the green robot IMHO.
I didn't recognize android lag until I used something more stable either. Now it's painfully apparent. Jumping from winmo to android would have to feel like an improvement because winmo was just generally bad. I mean, in it's time it was ok at best. It had it's MMOs and stuff but never got past the point where you felt you needed a stylus in some places. It was always a PPC OS and never a smartphone OS. Android is a continuation on this, and while it's remedied most of the issues, lag and stability are not one of them. Perhaps I push my android phones harder with games like Dungeon Defenders and such, but I had to reset my gs2 daily for the week I had it. My Nokia Lumia 800 has been reset seven times total since last October. It's just more stable and more social.
Vnvman, what apps do you have such issues with? The only app that's caused me to have to reset is board express which is a poorly done app. At least it's not the built in apps though like with android.
Again, maybe I push my phone more. However, my measly 1.4 GHz processor runs circles around the gs2 I had long enough to ditch it. That would be the same GS2 that is said to be the first android phone that utilized a partially GPU accelerated UI.
The last app I had issues with was Carbon, just a week ago. It kinda surprised me because it always worked pretty good. I had to reinstall it in order to make it work again. Oh, and yesterday my gf had some issues on her 710, she had some stupid game like Shoot Bubble unable to launch, reinstalling it did the trick.
Honestly these things don't really bother me (it doesn't happen often), what actually made me wanna throw my phone off the window the other day was 3g connectivity, which wasn't working no matter what. After 24 hours it started working again, apparently without a reason. Funny thing is that my gf was having this issue at the same time, but none of my friends with the same carrier had it. Really weird.
Hmm, perhaps it pertained to your account with the phone company? A glitch in the system of sorts. I don't use carbon, not certain what it is, and stick mostly on the beaten path for games. Perhaps that's why I don't have that issue. The stock stuff covers most of what I need in a phone.
Carbon is a Twitter client, it's pretty good, you should try it if you haven't already. It's well designed and melts beautifully in the OS. I'm not a great fan of the integrated client we have, it's definitely usable but a little limited, and the official twitter app hurts my eye (and my battery) with all that stupid white...
I'm wondering if I'm the only person to be, well, disappointed with the Nexus 4. I have had Google-centric devices before, starting with the Nexus One and I enjoyed using them. I was looking forward to getting my N4 immensely but since it arrived it's just been nothing but ball-ache.
It never really feels as fast as its specs suggest it could be.
If I snap a picture (which is disappointing 99% of the time) I can't send it by clicking the share button and choosing Gmail - it just sits in my outbox, and has with every ROM I've used, including stock.
The device's battery is inconsistent.
It's slicker than an eel that's been soaked in KY, so unless it's in a case or bumper it slips and slides off surfaces and, as we all know, it isn't the most robust smartphone in the world.
I'm holding out hope that KLP will bring things together and get it all moving right, but so far I'm a misery guts...a misery guts who keeps eyeing up the HTC One.
Am I alone?
It is an upgrade for me because I had an htc one v. I honestly think all of the functions are usable (besides recording audio). I was very excited to know the nexus 4 came out, after using the nexus 7 for a couple of months. Although if you have owned a phone with features that worked more efficiently, then yes this device could totally be let down. The battery life could be better(even with custom kernels/roms) I figure i'm gonna sit with my nexus 4 through another generation of nexus before I upgrade.
Yes. And this thread is pointless.
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For me its the complete opposite. Ive had every nexus phone an the n4 is by far the best. My phone is blazin fast woth no lag whatsoever no matter what rom im on, camera takes great pics an the battery is pretty good. It is pretty slick cause its mainly glass but a case fixes that. Maybe u got a bad phone or something
Yes, it is just you. Can we close this thread?
Yes , just you.
If your picture is getting stuck in the outbox, that probably means your internet connection is too slow to send it quickly.
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I thought it might have been a bad one at first, but the wife's got one and she's had some (minor) issues too. There are aspects of the device that I love, but having had a Nexus 7 and gotten to really like Jelly Bean I was hoping for a lot more from the N4. There just seems to be a lack of veneer in certain areas, like jobs were just sort of finished rather than being polished.
The N4 is the best Nexus device in terms of hardware, sure, but I don't feel that Google has made as much of that hardware as it could have, though that could probably be attributed in some part to it being an enthusiasts device.
As for you, mgymnop and biggiephat (and anyone else who wants to be a plum) , it's a discussion forum for the Nexus 4. I was trying to initiate a sensibl discussion with other users to share my experiences and listen to others. If you don't like it, **** off. There's always dullards like you who have to mince around trying to be superior to other users. No one wants to hear your bull****. Take part or keep it shut.
@Chrono_Tata - I thought that at first but it's like it on Wi-Fi too. It's been a real head-scratcher!
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I thought it might have been a bad one at first, but the wife's got one and she's had some (minor) issues too. There are aspects of the device that I love, but having had a Nexus 7 and gotten to really like Jelly Bean I was hoping for a lot more from the N4. There just seems to be a lack of veneer in certain areas, like jobs were just sort of finished rather than being polished.
The N4 is the best Nexus device in terms of hardware, sure, but I don't feel that Google has made as much of that hardware as it could have, though that could probably be attributed in some part to it being an enthusiasts device.
As for you, mgymnop and biggiephat (and anyone else who wants to be a plum) , it's a discussion forum for the Nexus 4. I was trying to initiate a sensibl discussion with other users to share my experiences and listen to others. If you don't like it, **** off. There's always dullards like you who have to mince around trying to be superior to other users. No one wants to hear your bull****. Take part or keep it shut.
@Chrono_Tata - I thought that at first but it's like it on Wi-Fi too. It's been a real head-scratcher!
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Lol a plum
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Please just send me your n4 once youve bought htc one x n_n
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I think he meant the HTC one not one x
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I love N4. The main thing is NEXUS. Pure google and lots of ROMs out there!
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I'm wondering if I'm the only person to be, well, disappointed with the Nexus 4. I have had Google-centric devices before, starting with the Nexus One and I enjoyed using them. I was looking forward to getting my N4 immensely but since it arrived it's just been nothing but ball-ache.
It never really feels as fast as its specs suggest it could be.
For me it's quite the opposite. It's easily the fastest phone Ive used yet (that includes most 2012 flagships but nothing like the Xperia Z or HTC One) and I don't see any reason I'd want it to be faster. I don't see any task in the near future that the S4 Pro won't be able to handle, and project butter just makes the experience unbeatable IMO.
If I snap a picture (which is disappointing 99% of the time) ...
The camera is disappointing but I don't use it too much so really don't care.
I can't send it by clicking the share button and choosing Gmail - it just sits in my outbox, and has with every ROM I've used, including stock.
Can't comment here, I've never tried it and really cba to do so now.
The device's battery is inconsistent.
Mine's been fine and the battery has always gotten me through the day perfectly fine.
It's slicker than an eel that's been soaked in KY, so unless it's in a case or bumper it slips and slides off surfaces and, as we all know, it isn't the most robust smartphone in the world.
I've got a case but it does slip around a lot without a case. You'll have to come up with a solution or learn to live with it I'm afraid.
I'm holding out hope that KLP will bring things together and get it all moving right, but so far I'm a misery guts...a misery guts who keeps eyeing up the HTC One.
If the one's what you prefer then by all means get it. The N4 isn't for everyone, which is perfectly understandable.
Am I alone?
Almost certainly not
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Just my opinions on this. At the end of the day it's entirely down to personal preference, which nobody can really change. To the people who said that he is alone, you do realise that that's akin to saying 'green is the best colour and if you don't like it then you're an idiot' right?
Cheers for the constructive replies people.
Just to clarify, the device is quick, yeah, but it feels that the OS brings it down at times, if that makes any sense? Even though Android is hugely capable and mainstream now it feels at times like it's still a work in progress. Little things like a widget will randomly go tits up, or my keyboard will just stop working, its minor, but frustrating as hell at times.
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Cheers for the constructive replies people.
Just to clarify, the device is quick, yeah, but it feels that the OS brings it down at times, if that makes any sense? Even though Android is hugely capable and mainstream now it feels at times like it's still a work in progress. Little things like a widget will randomly go tits up, or my keyboard will just stop working, its minor, but frustrating as hell at times.
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I have neither of those issues.
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Cheers for the constructive replies people.
Just to clarify, the device is quick, yeah, but it feels that the OS brings it down at times, if that makes any sense? Even though Android is hugely capable and mainstream now it feels at times like it's still a work in progress. Little things like a widget will randomly go tits up, or my keyboard will just stop working, its minor, but frustrating as hell at times.
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I have been with Android since the T-Mobile G1 by HTC and xperienced the whole evolution from Cupcake to Jellybebean and android probably will always be work in progress, it is an evoluton. It will be even better and more complete with every build. As with any other OS.
some of my korean friends wrote it off when they discovered it was LG and not Samsung.
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some of my korean friends wrote it off when they discovered it was LG and not Samsung.
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That is a stupid reason in this case, as it is a Google phone build by LG.
OP if you are disappointed, maybe head over here and then replace you Device...Thanks.