[Q] Cant downgrade HBOOT no matter what... - HTC Incredible S

Hi all,
this is my first post and it looks like I can only post in General for now...
I tried all the guide on this website about downgrading HBOOT 2.02 (Black Rose and Im also S-OFF).
I can install RUU ICS and Ginger Bread RUU but Im always HBOOT 2.02.
I dont have the HTC drivers, I use those in the file HTCDriver3.0.0.007 and the batch files in those guides always run without a glitch.
Am I stuck with the RUU ICS ? I find it laggy and would love to install Revolution HD 5.3 or any of your suggestions.
Phone works perfectly with both RUU ROMs btw.
EDIT:
I tried to change the HBOOT manually with fastboot and I get this message: "cannot determine image filename"
Probably a partition problem or a Black Rose problem ?
Thanks

Relayers said:
Hi all,
this is my first post and it looks like I can only post in General for now...
I tried all the guide on this website about downgrading HBOOT 2.02 (Black Rose and Im also S-OFF).
I can install RUU ICS and Ginger Bread RUU but Im always HBOOT 2.02.
I dont have the HTC drivers, I use those in the file HTCDriver3.0.0.007 and the batch files in those guides always run without a glitch.
Am I stuck with the RUU ICS ? I find it laggy and would love to install Revolution HD 5.3 or any of your suggestions.
Phone works perfectly with both RUU ROMs btw.
EDIT:
I tried to change the HBOOT manually with fastboot and I get this message: "cannot determine image filename"
Probably a partition problem or a Black Rose problem ?
Thanks
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I don't get it. You have Blackrose HBOOT and S-OFF. Why are you trying to downgrade?? ._.

Relayers said:
Hi all,
this is my first post and it looks like I can only post in General for now...
I tried all the guide on this website about downgrading HBOOT 2.02 (Black Rose and Im also S-OFF).
I can install RUU ICS and Ginger Bread RUU but Im always HBOOT 2.02.
I dont have the HTC drivers, I use those in the file HTCDriver3.0.0.007 and the batch files in those guides always run without a glitch.
Am I stuck with the RUU ICS ? I find it laggy and would love to install Revolution HD 5.3 or any of your suggestions.
Phone works perfectly with both RUU ROMs btw.
EDIT:
I tried to change the HBOOT manually with fastboot and I get this message: "cannot determine image filename"
Probably a partition problem or a Black Rose problem ?
Thanks
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I am having a hard time understanding your current configuration. If you have the stock HTC HBOOT version 2.02.0002, but are already S-OFF, then you simply need to flash a custom recoveyr such as ClockworkMod or 4EXT in order to flash custom ROMs. There is no reason to 'downgrade' if you have S-OFF.
If you have BlackRose HBOOT 2.02.0002 with S-OFF, again there is no reason to 'downgrade' this to install custom ROMs. Again you would flash a custom recovery and then you can flash custom ROMs.
If that does not answer you question, please post a screen shot of your bootloader screen and also the output of this command:
fastboot getvar all
so we can determine your current configuration.

Hello,
thanks for replying so fast.
Yes I have HBOOT 2.02.002 and S-OFF but I lost my recovery (4ext) when I installed ICS RUU. I had problem with the keyboard sometimes probably because I was using the first "official" ICS that came out and it was German.
I only need to replace the RUU with a ROM, but I dont have 4ext anymore and all I could find was a ling to a website to install an .apk but I dont have root anymore.
Thanks again.

Relayers said:
Hello,
thanks for replying so fast.
Yes I have HBOOT 2.02.002 and S-OFF but I lost my recovery (4ext) when I installed ICS RUU. I had problem with the keyboard sometimes probably because I was using the first "official" ICS that came out and it was German.
I only need to replace the RUU with a ROM, but I dont have 4ext anymore and all I could find was a ling to a website to install an .apk but I dont have root anymore.
Thanks again.
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With S-OFF, just boot into FASTBOOT USB mode and you can flash a new recovery image using the command:
fastboot flash recovery [name of recovery.img]

Relayers said:
Hello,
thanks for replying so fast.
Yes I have HBOOT 2.02.002 and S-OFF but I lost my recovery (4ext) when I installed ICS RUU. I had problem with the keyboard sometimes probably because I was using the first "official" ICS that came out and it was German.
I only need to replace the RUU with a ROM, but I dont have 4ext anymore and all I could find was a ling to a website to install an .apk but I dont have root anymore.
Thanks again.
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Then use ClockworkMod. You can download a .zip file from their website and that should contain the [recovery].img.
Then just reboot to fastboot and use the command that tpbklake advised.

072665995 said:
Then use ClockworkMod. You can download a .zip file from their website and that should contain the [recovery].img.
Then just reboot to fastboot and use the command that tpbklake advised.
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This is what I am doing right now , thanks to your signature .
Any ROM suggestion ?
Thank you again.

Relayers said:
This is what I am doing right now , thanks to your signature .
Any ROM suggestion ?
Thank you again.
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ARHD 5.3 if you want to stick with Sense and ICS. I also would suggest poondog's Kangaroo Kernel.

tpbklake said:
ARHD 5.3 if you want to stick with Sense and ICS. I also would suggest poondog's Kangaroo Kernel.
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Well I tried a few ICS ROMs using CWM and I had no problem at all , even for ARHD which suggest using ext4.
I also played a little bit with GB ROMs and IMHO, it is smoother than any of the ICS ROMs I tried. So maybe its time for me to get a new phone. I even wonder how come I managed to use ICS (German RUU) for so long without being annoyed by the lag.
Maybe I should try a ICS ROM without Sense ? Any suggestions ?
Thanks again btw.

Relayers said:
Well I tried a few ICS ROMs using CWM and I had no problem at all , even for ARHD which suggest using ext4.
I also played a little bit with GB ROMs and IMHO, it is smoother than any of the ICS ROMs I tried. So maybe its time for me to get a new phone. I even wonder how come I managed to use ICS (German RUU) for so long without being annoyed by the lag.
Maybe I should try a ICS ROM without Sense ? Any suggestions ?
Thanks again btw.
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No, I have always used a Sense ROM on my IncS. Did you try using Kangaroo Kernel with ARHD 5.3? When I use it with my stock, rooted ICS ROM, it is buttery smooth with no lag.

Relayers said:
Well I tried a few ICS ROMs using CWM and I had no problem at all , even for ARHD which suggest using ext4.
I also played a little bit with GB ROMs and IMHO, it is smoother than any of the ICS ROMs I tried. So maybe its time for me to get a new phone. I even wonder how come I managed to use ICS (German RUU) for so long without being annoyed by the lag.
Maybe I should try a ICS ROM without Sense ? Any suggestions ?
Thanks again btw.
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Gingerbread is smoother because there aren't nearly as many background processes running at the same time.
In regards to Sense ROMs, you can always try Blackout v4 (for Sense 3.6) or SVHD v1.7.1 (for Sense 4.1). Match either one of those ROMs' with poondog's kangaroo kernel and there is virtually 0 lag. Its quite the amazing kernel really (Yay poondog ).
If you want to try AOSP, there isn't much to try for ICS, just jellybean. And there are a number of things I don't like about each but let's not discuss that here since this post good get quite lengthy. Nevertheless, the developers made great strides to provide as best a ROM as they can and each one of the ROMs deserves a try. I would ditch the kernels that they came with and get Tesco-Joey Kernel (also made by poondog).

072665995 said:
but let's not discuss that here since this post good get quite lengthy.
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I cant post anywhere else . This has to be the weirdest board I ever subscribed...
I tried the Kernel with one of the ICS ROM and I couldnt see the difference. Ill give it another shot this week.
Thanks again for all the great tips !

Related

What NOW?

I have successfully custom flashed Sense 3.0 with 2.3 gingerbread for my incredible S phone. It only took 3 long days. I am very happy but what now? I want this to be my permanent ROM. Is there anything else that I am recommended to do now? I was reading about how you can make your phone almost like a stock phone meaning S-OFF and Unroot. Not too sure if that is necessary. What do you guys think?
please provide more info..
what Custom Rom are you on and how did you flash Sense 3.0.
there's a lot of threads hear and your initial details really don't provide much useful information.
I am on Virtuous Unity 1.27.0 Sense 3.0 based on Pyramid, I flashed it through 4EXTRecovery_v2.1.0_RC1_vivo.
I also had to flash a radio file to my ROM afterwards. I did that through the SDK software. Instructions from here: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Incredible_S:_FAQ Here is a list of Radio files for your specific provider/region : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12870734&postcount=1
I S-OFF'd my phone through Alpha RevX..there is also a you tube tutorial on how to do it. If anyone has anymore questions on how to do it then msg me!
So now what is left to do?????? Any other procedures? Besides flashing more Roms!
saying the custom rom, radio, cwm would have been enough information. anyways i see that you're new so it's all good.
so the question is, What do you want to do with your phone. after customizing it, are you okay with performance? no bugs? What do YOU want to do with your phone?
I want to permanantly make it my OS. Is that possible? I posted all of that because when I was figuring out how to do this I found that other peoples solutions helped me out alot tee hee
guys I think this belongs in "General"
IncredibleSlover said:
I want to permanantly make it my OS. Is that possible? I posted all of that because when I was figuring out how to do this I found that other peoples solutions helped me out alot tee hee
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What do you mean 'permanently make it my OS'? That ROM will stay on your phone as long as you want it, until you decide you want to flash a different one. There's no need to go trying to lock it down again after flashing it, that's a pointless exercise.
Dude you're S-OFF and rooted now, there is nothing else to do other than installing custom ROMs or flashing radios(if needed) Virtious Unity is now your ROM, if you want to revert back to what the phone came with, you will need to flash a official RUU.
Awesome thanks for the reply
hussainmushahid said:
Dude you're S-OFF and rooted now, there is nothing else to do other than installing custom ROMs or flashing radios(if needed) Virtious Unity is now your ROM, if you want to revert back to what the phone came with, you will need to flash a official RUU.
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Hi, I need the S-ON. everywhere let me just advise'll update RUU, but I did and I still have the S-OFF. You know how to solve it? I need back guarantee.
thank you very much.
exnerjan said:
Hi, I need the S-ON. everywhere let me just advise'll update RUU, but I did and I still have the S-OFF. You know how to solve it? I need back guarantee.
thank you very much.
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you need to go S-ON again? you used alpharevx? If so, just flash the whole official RUU and you will be S-ON again since it would also flash the bootloader.
hussainmushahid said:
you need to go S-ON again? you used alpharevx? If so, just flash the whole official RUU and you will be S-ON again since it would also flash the bootloader.
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That is a common misconception. Apparently AlphaRevX's HBOOT prevents a RUU from overwriting it. There have been several posts about running an RUU on an AlphaRevX S-OFF IncS and the ROM does indeed update, but the device is still S-OFF and AlphaRevX HBOOT is still in place.
doctorsax said:
What do you mean 'permanently make it my OS'? That ROM will stay on your phone as long as you want it, until you decide you want to flash a different one. There's no need to go trying to lock it down again after flashing it, that's a pointless exercise.
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Awesome man, thats what I wanted to hear
hussainmushahid said:
Dude you're S-OFF and rooted now, there is nothing else to do other than installing custom ROMs or flashing radios(if needed) Virtious Unity is now your ROM, if you want to revert back to what the phone came with, you will need to flash a official RUU.
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You mean I wont be able to recover my old settings if I have restored it?
I dont care really if I cant. Is it because I am now 2.3 gingerbread????
Well it doesnt matter because I love this new ROM and will be keeping it forever
uh oh this is bad. no more warranty for my phone :s
tpbklake said:
That is a common misconception. Apparently AlphaRevX's HBOOT prevents a RUU from overwriting it. There have been several posts about running an RUU on an AlphaRevX S-OFF IncS and the ROM does indeed update, but the device is still S-OFF and AlphaRevX HBOOT is still in place.
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and know how to do it to the S-ON? Please.
tpbklake said:
That is a common misconception. Apparently AlphaRevX's HBOOT prevents a RUU from overwriting it. There have been several posts about running an RUU on an AlphaRevX S-OFF IncS and the ROM does indeed update, but the device is still S-OFF and AlphaRevX HBOOT is still in place.
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I haven't tried it myself so I guess you're true, when I flashed the stock RUU I flashed it without the bootloader file (unzip,delete,zip) as stated in a thread regarding keeping S-OFF when installing stock RUU. A guy has found the solution to going S-ON again in his thread in the general discussion section.
hussainmushahid said:
I haven't tried it myself so I guess you're true, when I flashed the stock RUU I flashed it without the bootloader file (unzip,delete,zip) as stated in a thread regarding keeping S-OFF when installing stock RUU. A guy has found the solution to going S-ON again in his thread in the general discussion section.
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Yes I saw that this morning. Basically AlphaRevX has a special HBOOT you can 'downgrade' with that you must flash and then using the special HBOOT you can flash an official HTC HBOOT. End result is S-OFF and you have a standard HTC HBOOT.

[Q] Custom ICS ROM issue

Hi XDA, I hate to make a thread about this when there are so many good guides on these forums but I am really stuck. Yesterday I tried to root my phone, which went successfully using revolutionary and CWM. However whenever I try to run a custom ICS ROM the phone will not progress past the ROM's splash screen. I have tried Ice Cold Sandwich and Virtuous Vivo neither which work. After something I did the phone did not advance past the HTC logo after which I reverted to the stock gingerbread RUU. Everything is working fine on rooted gingerbread now but I really want ICS. I updated the radio which I think got reverted when I reinstalled stock gingerbread, I also tried fast-booting the boot.img which also didn't work. I doubt both ROM's are corrupted because I downloaded them on high speed internet. Also tried wiping cache, dalvik cache etc before installing didn't work. Can anyone help me?
phone info:
S-OFF
Revolutionary HBOOT 6.13.1002
Running stock gingerbread RUU
EDIT: Would also like to know if I can install official OTA ICS update on my phone (not out in Australia yet). I have a gold card and s-off but my CID is not htc_001. If someone could link me or tell me how to do that it would be appreciated.
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jediryan123 said:
Hi XDA, I hate to make a thread about this when there are so many good guides on these forums but I am really stuck. Yesterday I tried to root my phone, which went successfully using revolutionary and CWM. However whenever I try to run a custom ICS ROM the phone will not progress past the ROM's splash screen. I have tried Ice Cold Sandwich and Virtuous Vivo neither which work. After something I did the phone did not advance past the HTC logo after which I reverted to the stock gingerbread RUU. Everything is working fine on rooted gingerbread now but I really want ICS. I updated the radio which I think got reverted when I reinstalled stock gingerbread, I also tried fast-booting the boot.img which also didn't work. I doubt both ROM's are corrupted because I downloaded them on high speed internet. Also tried wiping cache, dalvik cache etc before installing didn't work. Can anyone help me?
phone info:
S-OFF
Revolutionary HBOOT 6.13.1002
Running stock gingerbread RUU
EDIT: Would also like to know if I can install official OTA ICS update on my phone (not out in Australia yet). I have a gold card and s-off but my CID is not htc_001. If someone could link me or tell me how to do that it would be appreciated.
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There is now a rooted version of the stock RUU/ROM that can be installed via CWM recovery and preserves your Revolutionary S-OFF. You might want to give that a try to see if you can live with the HTC stock experience.
[ROM][Jul-06-2012][STOCK][RUU][ICS][Sense 3.6][WWE] 4.10.405.1 (root | busybox)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1756500
Thanks tpbklake, downloading now. Will my CID number be a problem? (HTC_621)
jediryan123 said:
Thanks tpbklake, downloading now. Will my CID number be a problem? (HTC_621)
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No, it installs like any custom ROM via custom recovery which doesn't check for those type of things. You may have to manually put in your APN settings for network access if your carrier isn't listed.
tpbklake said:
No, it installs like any custom ROM via custom recovery which doesn't check for those type of things. You may have to manually put in your APN settings for network access if your carrier isn't listed.
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Is HTC__044 listed?
Sent from my Incredible S using xda premium
zukri90 said:
Is HTC__044 listed?
Sent from my Incredible S using xda premium
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it will install on your cid. he means carrier like who is your phone provider. eg. optus, telstra, at&t for example
[ROM][Jul-06-2012][STOCK][RUU][ICS][Sense 3.6][WWE] 4.10.405.1 (root | busybox)
Ok up and running on this ROM. Thanks for the help.

[Q] The ARHD4.0.0 is coming,right?

The ARHD4.0.0 is coming,right?
tomrrow?:laugh:
Xingke Xu said:
The ARHD4.0.0 is coming,right?
tomrrow?:laugh:
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It's android 4.0.4. The ARHD version is 3.0.0
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using xda premium
Any different between ARHD n STOCK ICS????
ayieo7 said:
Any different between ARHD n STOCK ICS????
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The differences are noted on the Opening Post. mike1986 for the most part has always tried to keep ARHD's look and feel pretty stock although his tweaks simply make Sense very usable.
Already read the post..It say i need new Hboot but my current Hboot is 6.1.3 which mean that i cant flash the rom..
Me too. I'm keeping away from anything that wants me to switch to blackrose hBoot. It's a pity, I like ARHD. Mike, do something, to make /lib a part of root partition, than as a separate partition, as needed by HTC ICS 4.04.
Sent from my HTC Incredible S
ayieo7 said:
Already read the post..It say i need new Hboot but my current Hboot is 6.1.3 which mean that i cant flash the rom..
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Yes i am in the same situation, How do we flash the new HBOOT ?
You install it through windows or from adb. Check the blackrose topic.
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using xda premium
ragapa97 said:
Me too. I'm keeping away from anything that wants me to switch to blackrose hBoot. It's a pity, I like ARHD. Mike, do something, to make /lib a part of root partition, than as a separate partition, as needed by HTC ICS 4.04.
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AFAIK that new /lib partition is needed because otherwise / or /system will be too small. So, as I understand it some time you'll have to upgrade hboot or you can't use the latest ROMs...
ayieo7 said:
Already read the post..It say i need new Hboot but my current Hboot is 6.1.3 which mean that i cant flash the rom..
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to a first approximation, it appears to work fine without blackrose.
I installed ARHD3.0 on my IncS with HBOOT 6.13 this morning and no problems so far.
*searches for some wood to knock on*
batuhaniricagil said:
Yes i am in the same situation, How do we flash the new HBOOT ?
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I just put this file (http://d-h.st/SjY) on an SD-Card & boot into bootloader to flash BlackRose, but I have full S-OFF with XTC-Clip so I'm not sure what other configurations are able do this!
[PG32IMG.zip link & file courtesy of Inferi0r]
P.S. Removing BlackRose is a different story. I have to use the official binary through windows to command it to uninstall.

INCs S-OFF with ICS RUU NAM CANADA Problem

I installed the ICS update for NAM CANADA on my INCs, install went well but its hanging on HTC white screen
Shorex said:
I installed the ICS update for NAM CANADA on my INCs, install went well but its hanging on HTC white screen
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Yep. If you we're S-Off with Revolutionary then you cannot use the ICS RUU. The ICS RUU was not able to overwrite the Revolutionary HBOOT with the new ICS HBOOT 2.03 which this ROM needs.
You need to reinstall a custom Recovery and then flash a custom rooted ROM to get your phone operational.
tpbklake said:
Yep. If you we're S-Off with Revolutionary then you cannot use the ICS RUU. The ICS RUU was not able to overwrite the Revolutionary HBOOT with the new ICS HBOOT 2.03 which this ROM needs.
You need to reinstall a custom Recovery and then flash a custom rooted ROM to get your phone operational.
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Thanks for the info...
Ya I see it changed my radio version
Is that going to be a problem?
Shorex said:
Thanks for the info...
Ya I see it changed my radio version
Is that going to be a problem?
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No the radio should not be a problem.
I think that, he could have used the instructions on that link to downgrade and flash the new boot image to his device, and everything would have work.
Follow the instructions at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1359555 (just de fastboot portion). Download vivo_downgrade.img provided in the previous link. Extract rom.zip from the nam Canada ics 4 ruu. Extra the file hboot_2.03.000_3b35dcew_0828.img from rom.zip and use these to files with the fasboot instructions given at the previous link.
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I think that, he could have used the instructions on that link to downgrade and flash the new boot image to his device, and everything would have work.
Follow the instructions at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1359555 (just de fastboot portion). Download vivo_downgrade.img provided in the previous link. Extract rom.zip from the nam Canada ics 4 ruu. Extra the file hboot_2.03.000_3b35dcew_0828.img from rom.zip and use these to files with the fasboot instructions given at the previous link.
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Yes, good call. That should work as a solution. He also could have upgraded the Revolutionary HBOOT to BlackRose HBOOT 2.02.0002 and gotten it to boot.
Lol, I should have used a spell checker to write my post. Sorry about all the mistakes.
Hey thanks glussier and tpbklake for your assistance... I successfully got my phone working with cyanogen mod 7 for now, but I will attempt blackrose and see if I have better results installing that HTC ICS for the IncS
Thanks again
Just an update!
Installed Blackrose then reinstalled the ICS Canada RUU and viola we are in business
Shorex said:
Just an update!
Installed Blackrose then reinstalled the ICS Canada RUU and viola we are in business
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That is great to know! Thanks for the update.
Great. Now, if you want to push-it a little, you could try installing a custom kernel such as xs-ics-2.2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1851121
I find that I can run @ 1.2 to 1.4ghz fully stable, without adverse effects to battery life, and with a better ics experience.
worked great over Blackrose 2.02
I installed this update this weekend over Blackrose 2.02 and it worked properly.
I'm hoping the devs will use this as a baseline for new ROMS as it is ICS and everything works. The camera, Wifi hotspot, video and all features are operational.
Complaints about this ROM:
1. NEED ROOT ACCESS. After having full access I can't go back.
2. Ringtone and notification are linked. They're not linked under Ice Cold Sandwich or Cooldroid, so there must be a way to break the link.
3. The HTC Sense quick links menu could be so much better. Ice Cold Sandwich did such a great job of this!
4. It's a little laggy at times. Back to all the HTC bloatware, no doubt.
Shorex said:
Just an update!
Installed Blackrose then reinstalled the ICS Canada RUU and viola we are in business
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Were you still s-off after these steps?

[HELP!] Complete recovery

Hello, I have rooted Incredible S - BlackRose , HBOOT 2.03.000, S-OFF, Revolutionary.. and I face a lot of problems, so I decided to get all the stock settings back. I have no idea how to reset HBOOT to 0.98 (i guess?), make S-ON and remove reovolutionary. I've been looking for guides, but couldn't find any. Please help!
Anyone..?
Run the Blackrose installer again, there's an option to unistall Blackrose, it will install a stock Bootloader again
Gizmo648 said:
Run the Blackrose installer again, there's an option to unistall Blackrose, it will install a stock Bootloader again
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Thank you, but after this (see image bellow) the window disappears and I don't get to see blackrose menu.. :/
EDIT: Oh, it was wrong blacrose installer..
Ok, done this.
Now it would be fantastic if anyone could tell me what is RADIO, which version is stock and which one is the best?
tuniekonematei said:
Ok, done this.
Now it would be fantastic if anyone could tell me what is RADIO, which version is stock and which one is the best?
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You don't have to change the Radio version, all of them are extracted from Stock RUUs
A newer Version would be better as it increases signal strengh.
But you already have S-On again, and you can only flash those if you are S-OFF, the only way to flash one if you are S-On is to run a RUU but no need for this if you don't have problems with signal etc.

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