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People have been asking in the dev forum alot about how to have two roms on the same device. So i thought I would make a how to.
You do this at your own risk.
Things Needed:
external SD
Get CWM for droid3
SafeStrap for droid3
stable rom to use as nonsafe [put on external SD]
rom to use as safe [put on external SD]
TiBu
1. (make sure you are in nonsafe, if you don't know what this means then dont worry). Do a backup of everything you will want to keep with TiBu.
2. Put the backup on external SD or on dropbox.
3. Uninstall any existing recoveries.
4. Reboot device.
5. Install cwm.
6. Reboot into CWM Recovery and install stable rom.
7. Reboot device.
8. Uninstall CWM and Then install safestrap.
9. Reboot into safestrap recovery.
10. Use volume rockers to go to safe boot menu.
11. Toggle safesystem.
12. select install a zip
13. choose safe rom
14. DONE "]
The nonsafe system will now contain your stable rom. and the safe system will contain your 'experimental' or second rom. I recommend not putting any new or buggy roms as your nonsafe. And this is already considered a dangerous thing to do. And give a huge thanks to hashcode for providing us with safestrap and koush for cwm :]
I currently use MavRom as a nonsafe. Its extremely stable and has not caused any issues at all.
Also if you want to transfer the safe to the nonsafe, use tibu to entirely back up the rom, system and user apps, you can then restore it after flashing it to nonsafe. Make a new backup folder to put it in so you don't mix it up with other backups from different roms
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I can't seem to get this to work with Cm7 as Safe rom and Cm9 as my experimental. I got Steel Droid to boot up and stock but I'm starting to think any rom that isn't blur based (which is really only cyanogen) isn't able to be dual booted. I just get a black screen after the splash screen I've been trying for a week now. If anybody is willing to give it a shot just to see if its me then please let me know of your findings but Mavrom Liberty SD all of those I can boot its cm7.1 or Cm9 that won't...
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Thwe blur based thing may be right. Im unsure, but cm7 to me personally shuld not be used as stable
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can somebody unite thiese 2 topics?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1436380
Dri94 said:
Thwe blur based thing may be right. Im unsure, but cm7 to me personally shuld not be used as stable
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Damnit man I would rather not have to run cm7 as my stable rom seeing how I have no front facing camera support but the other features that the blur based roms lack just make it impossible to use as a daily driver. I need control over which buttons are in the notification widget and a few of the other features cm provides and none of the blurless roms give me that unfortunately... I'm determined to get this to work if its the last thing I do lol
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Whats not working about it ?
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Whats not working about it ?
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I can't get cm7 to boot up past the safestrap splash screen.... I start out with bootstrap boot cm7 up and then remove bootstrap and install safestrap thus making cm7 my non safe or main rom but upon rebooting the phone I just get the black screen after the splash screen... I can get into safestrap and switch to safe mode and run whatever rom I last had there or flash any nandroids I had in non safe mode but whatever rom I had on prior to installing safestrap (cm7 or cm9) they won't actually reboot. I thought cm9 would work which would really be a hastle keeping that as my non safe rom and cm7 as my main one on the safe side thus leaving me to redo the entire process everytime a new cm9 is released but cm9 wouldn't boot up past the initializing apps screen that first pops up... It counts up to all the apps I have then just stays stuck on starting applications or whatever it says, cm7 doesn't even boot up beyond the splash screen...
Edit: And I know that I'm doing it right because I have got Steel Droid to dual boot before I just can't understand y blurfree roms can't boot in non safe mode
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ill test it when i get home.
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ill test it when i get home.
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Appreciate it *fingers crossed*
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Im sorry. I got behind on some work, when i catch up ill get back to you.
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Dri94 said:
Im sorry. I got behind on some work, when i catch up ill get back to you.
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No pressure man I do appreciate the response tho lol
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Ill do it tonight when i install the new ics :]
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Ill do it tonight when i install the new ics :]
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I was gonna do the same lol hilarious
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Lol cool :] lets see if we can both get it
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Ok im gonna give this another shot tonight..... haven't had the time or patience especially since I think its gonna fail again but ill update with my progress.... gonna try cm7 as the non safe and aokp as the safe one...
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Ok, time to feel like a total noob.
So, my idea was to use safestrap to install aokp on the safe partition and leave my stock (+root) rom on the unsafe one.
I had bootstrap installed, just to back up my stuff and whatnot, so, I uninstalled it, installed safestrap, put all the stuff needed for AOKP ( rom, gsm patch and gapps ) and rebooted the phone. I enabled the safe system, and flashed rom, patch and gapps. then I rebooted, and I got into a loop where I would see the motorola logo ( the still one, which says "dual core technology" or something like that), then I got the safestrap splashscreen and if I pressed search, or left the phone idle so it would boot on it's own, it would get me to the motorola logo again, and repeat the loop.
I had to go back to the unsafe system and luckily it's all still there, but, since that point I tried every combination that I could think off, with wipes and I've flashed even just the rom, between wipes, and still, nothing.
I'm thinking that safestrap is not being able to write on the partition, or something like that, but I don't know how to solve it.
Any Ideas?
EDIT: I checked with a root explorer on /preinstall ( which I understand is the /system folder for the safe system ) and all the data seems to be there, but it's just not booting. Which makes me even more confused
Hey there XDA buddies,
Anyone tried the Google Now hack to load onto our Droid4 devices?
I'm definitely curious about Google Now and was wondering about people's experience with it.
The instructions are elsewhere here at XDA and I'll try and add a link on my lunch break to it.
Any feedback is appreciated.
Thanks
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I have done it the apk way and the zip way in safeboot. Both seem to work just fine.
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Eclipse 1.2 for the droid 4 has it pre-loaded, i use it on a daily basis with voice and all
I just loaded the APK and it works, kind of anyway... a little buggy I've noticed but decent enough so far.
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Do you guys have a link to download? I'm thinking about trying it.
Thanks,
From what I understand of the Google Now app, you need to be on a custom ROM to use it. It won't work on stock (I tried to install via zip through stock and safetrap recovery on stock ROM and with apk). It sees the stock ROM as an uninstallable system. You must be on either aosp/aokp/eclipse or the like to install this.
If I am wrong and someone has it running on stock them I apologize, but this is what I found and read through the threads as well about it.
I tried a few versions right after i updated to ics and follows the renaming instructions and all...it didn't work..i am stock ics rooted
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I flashed the deoxed stock rom last night into the safe system without wiping data. Rebooted perfect and then went back to recovery and flashed the google now zip and it works like a charm on stock in the safe mode.
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I tried manually adding the ZIP contents to the /system (since the new Safestrap restricts flashing ZIPs onto the non-safe stock side.)
I'm flashing deodexed version to my safe side (and I'm not going to be wiping, like the poster above) right now. I'll let you know how it goes.
-Nolam
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Flashed it on the safe-side, didn't wipe anything (The deodexed .zip I found will wipe caches for you), and it booted up as if nothing had changed. Then, went back and flashed M7 Google Now. Works great! It's sometimes slow and I do definitely notice a battery drain, but hopefully that can be sorted out.
I don't know how to do it, it doesn't give me the option... I have it backed up so I could restore it, I just need it out of my way... Any help.
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king..kranium said:
I don't know how to do it, it doesn't give me the option... I have it backed up so I could restore it, I just need it out of my way... Any help.
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Hi,
Do you mean that you want to delete the actual Stock ROM slot? I'm guessing that you're using Safestrap 3.x. If so, I don't think that you can delete it. In fact, I beleive that your Custom ROM Slots actually run off of the Stock one, so it might not be a good idea. Can I ask why you want to do it?
If you just want to wipe the system from the Stock slot, you can using the Wipe menu just like with any other slot, but be careful! Even though you have it backed up, the Stock slot is kind of finnicky from what I've experienced. I recently did an experiment where I flashed something over it. I had it backed up and everything, and when the experiment failed, I tried to restore it to how it was. I wiped the slot and restored from my backup, but the phone wouldn't boot.
Strangely, it worked when I restored it to a custom slot, but I had to get a special backup file from someone here on the forums to get my Stock Slot to work again. Just a word of caution. Hope that helps.
Airman1947 said:
Hi,
Do you mean that you want to delete the actual Stock ROM slot? I'm guessing that you're using Safestrap 3.x. If so, I don't think that you can delete it. In fact, I beleive that your Custom ROM Slots actually run off of the Stock one, so it might not be a good idea. Can I ask why you want to do it?
If you just want to wipe the system from the Stock slot, you can using the Wipe menu just like with any other slot, but be careful! Even though you have it backed up, the Stock slot is kind of finnicky from what I've experienced. I recently did an experiment where I flashed something over it. I had it backed up and everything, and when the experiment failed, I tried to restore it to how it was. I wiped the slot and restored from my backup, but the phone wouldn't boot.
Strangely, it worked when I restored it to a custom slot, but I had to get a special backup file from someone here on the forums to get my Stock Slot to work again. Just a word of caution. Hope that helps.
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Blur is dumb, I want rid of it.... thanks for the answer, I just want to free up the space its taking up.
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king..kranium said:
Blur is dumb, I want rid of it.... thanks for the answer, I just want to free up the space its taking up.
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Gotcha. You're welcome. Sorry I can't be more help.
Its okay man, I guess I'll just get a bigger sd card...
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I'm sorry if this is a completely idiotic question...but where do you find the .zip file to flash in clockworkmod recovery?? That's my only problem I'm running into while trying to flash. I'm trying to flash Cyanogenmod 10 with an unlocked bootloader.
Well if your trying to install cm10 I assume you downloaded it already. And I'm gonna go ahead and assume you somehow missed the fact the file ends in .zip...
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deeje00 said:
Well if your trying to install cm10 I assume you downloaded it already. And I'm gonna go ahead and assume you somehow missed the fact the file ends in .zip...
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Maybe I downloaded it to the wrong place? I put it on my computer, extracted all the files, booted my phone into clockwork recovery, wiped it, then couldnt find the zip. I really think I'm missing something vital here...
Dude you don't extract anything or use a computer.. Lmao you just download the file and that is the zip you flash.. Holy hell you made my night man lol. Your way over thinking it.. And if you were looking for a zip why would you unzip the zip? How would you even find a zip in a zip file you extracted?
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See? I knew I was being stupid. So this entire time I was doing it completely wrong. Wow. You just download it to the phone then wipe and flash? I think I've got it now. Thank you
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Yeah man easy stuff lol. Good luck.
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I'm guessing this is where I use Titanium Backup to save all my apps since I'm actually making progress now.
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Yeah backup all your apps and also create an update zip. You can flash that after the rom and gapps and it will reinstall all your apps by itself. Wouldn't hurt to create a nanodroid backup also.
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About the backing up: Do you have to back up everything or just actual apps? Say for instance audio effects or live wallpapers.
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Don't have to. I back up everything though just to be safe. So I can restore stock without a computer.
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For my new 2013 it is already available. But i need it for my for my fathers 2012 WiFi only version.
Unlocked, rooted and with custom recovery.
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I am looking for the same thing. Might take a day for someone to post it.
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Ever heard of the word "please", fellas?
Me too, please
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rapunzel11 said:
For my new 2013 it is already available. But i need it for my for my fathers 2012 WiFi only version.
Unlocked, rooted and with custom recovery.
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TheSopranos16 said:
I am looking for the same thing. Might take a day for someone to post it.
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adam_pl said:
Me too, please
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Here you go. http://www.androidcentral.com/how-manually-update-your-nexus-tablet-kitkat
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That's one way. But not the way i want to do. Btw it will be easier to flash the complete image via Toolkit.
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would like that as well. Probably it will appear today. Fingers crossed.
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Now i've flashed the factory image with Android Toolkit aka Nexus Toolkit. After that i reflashed the Custom Recovery.
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rapunzel11 said:
Now i've flashed the factory image with Android Toolkit aka Nexus Toolkit. After that i reflashed the Custom Recovery.
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Does it wipe whole data, including user data?
Right now I use stock 4.3 only with root and custom TWRP recovery. It would be the best for me to flash .ZIP file with rooted 4.4 trough recovery
At the beginning you have to choose if you want to format the user data. But ur right, the easiest way for those with custom recovery is a flashable ZIP.
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At the beginning you have to choose if you want to format the user data. But ur right, the easiest way for those with custom recovery is a flashable ZIP.
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For a Wi-Fi tablet, you really generally only have to push /system and maybe /boot through fastboot. It's two terminal commands, which is rather faster much of the time. That said, that presumes familiarity and comfort with the fastboot tool.
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At the beginning you have to choose if you want to format the user data. But ur right, the easiest way for those with custom recovery is a flashable ZIP.
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Especially that I don't want to backup all my aps with TB. And I don't even know it there's root already for N7's kitkat so I could restore all apps with Titanium Backup
Going back to stock and flashing the OTA using TWRP was the easiest method for me, now I got 4.4 rooted with OC and perfectly running.
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All y'all are overcomplicating this. There is nothing magical about the google script and download. Its just 4 partition images (boot, system, data and recovery) and batch file that runs a simple script to flash them. We already have the data we want and the recovery we want. So pull the images out of the file (they are buried under three compressions...its ridiculous). Pull boot.img and system.img. Then boot to recovery and factory reset. Then boot to bootloader. Then in a terminal on your PC, fastboot flash boot boot.img then fastboot flash system system.img. The reboot to recovery and flash the latest supersu.zip. The reboot, setup and restore with Titanium. Done. No need to ditch your recovery or blow away the media section of data.
Caveat...this assumes you are already on bootloader 4.23. There is no new bootloader for KK.
Can someone post power.grouper.so from /system/lib/hw 4.3 version? can't flash 4.4 because custom kernel and that file is unexpected contents... flashing stock kernel didn't help
Waiting patiently, I know it'll be out eventually and I'm in no rush. My tablet's usb connection hasn't worked in a long time, it charges fine but lsusb never registers anything. It's a hardware problem, I replaced the screen last month and I noticed the plug was slightly damaged.
TL;DR Some of us can only upgrade from a flashable zip, no usb connection means no fastboot
Thanks
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Waiting patiently, I know it'll be out eventually and I'm in no rush. My tablet's usb connection hasn't worked in a long time, it charges fine but lsusb never registers anything. It's a hardware problem, I replaced the screen last month and I noticed the plug was slightly damaged.
TL;DR Some of us can only upgrade from a flashable zip, no usb connection means no fastboot
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That sucks, sorry to hear that. My USB is getting rickety. I use a wireless charger on my S4 to try to keep down the wear and tear.
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Hmm seems as though no one has been able to make a flashable zip for any nexus 7 bootloaders... I suppose I should try to get back onto the stock version of android that matches my current bootloader without loosing custom recovery, get rooted, temp disable root, get back to stock recovery, get the OTA, restore root, get twrp back
mrplowdan said:
Hmm seems as though no one has been able to make a flashable zip for any nexus 7 bootloaders... I suppose I should try to get back onto the stock version of android that matches my current bootloader without loosing custom recovery, get rooted, temp disable root, get back to stock recovery, get the OTA, restore root, get twrp back
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There's a fishable stock 4.4 rom here if that is any good to you?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2529136
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Thanks dude :good: