[Q] Charging cable using metal pin not microusb like dock? - Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Is there any cable can charge like the dock, connect the phone by touch the metal pin not through the microusb hub?

kench928 said:
Is there any cable can charge like the dock, connect the phone by touch the metal pin not through the microusb hub?
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Yes.
Edit: Sorry, that is totally wrong, and intentionally brief and useless because I thought I was posting in Nexus 10 thread and that you just hadn't bothered searching (for pogo cable). My bad
Anyway, now we're on the same page, there aren't any cables that I'm aware of, there has been talk of DIYing one but so far the best is some sort of dock or click on connection to the pins as per the thread linked below.

alias_neo said:
Yes.
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Mighty helpful there, aren't we?
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A quick google search said no.
I guess you could make one by yourself. I've been thinking about this too...
Step1: find out the polarisation of the connectors on the phone
Step2: take a straight piece of plastic, make two holes with the right distance to eachother (pro version: make 4 holes)
Step3: put some wire through it and bend at the end to make a connector (put trough other holes of you made them)
Step4: solder a old usb charging cable to the connector
Step5: use rubber bands to hold in place while charging. take care it is the right way round because of the polarization. (and the polarization issue is why there are no official cables, stupid people would all connect it the wrong way round and then be pissed "Y IT NO WORK??!!11")
alternative: you can use the small crevice between body ad display to hold som kind of clip in place, instead of the rubber bands...

kench928 said:
Is there any cable can charge like the dock, connect the phone by touch the metal pin not through the microusb hub?
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Almost all is here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2167089
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AndroidFreud said:
Mighty helpful there, aren't we?
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Hehe edited my response, my head was spinning today and thought I was replying to a nexus 10 thread.
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Charger falls out.

Whenever I'm charging my captivate. The charger is loose and does not stay tight.
If I move the charger a little bit, it stops charging or recognize it as USB...
I'm using the standard charger that you get along with your captivate.
Are anyone of you experiencing the same problem? Is there a solution?
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bluemoon1221 said:
Whenever I'm charging my captivate. The charger is loose and does not stay tight.
If I move the charger a little bit, it stops charging or recognize it as USB...
I'm using the standard charger that you get along with your captivate.
Are anyone of you experiencing the same problem? Is there a solution?
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Same thing is happening to me, I don't k ow why.
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I found this usually only happens when the door covering the usb port isn't opened all the way. Make sure yours is open all the way.
Make sure u slide the charger cover all the way open is only thing I can guess might be wrong
Make sure the sliding door is all of the way open. It tends to stick, and then the connector doesn't click in place. If the door is all of the way open then the connector will stay in place firmly.
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Yeah that's the normal issue (the door not clicking open). Also, the stockcharger has little hook/protrusions that tends to hold it a bit better as well.
I always had my sliding thing fully opened.. the charger just doesnt seem to stay in place.. for ex. When my phone is on the ground charging, and if i pick up my phone, the charger tilts to the left which causes my phone to think its a usb..
Should i just get another charger? Any recommendation for one?
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Yep, my OEM charger eventually became so loose that it would fall out unless the phone was propped up vertically. I read about crimping or adjusting the socket itself with needle nose pliers, but this didn't work for me. The only solution I found was to purchase another micro USB cable. So far my third party ones all fit fine.
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yeah likely the door or the cable
I think it's partly the Samsung adapter and MicroUSB in general. Mine's not that bad, but third party ones do seem to hold better, if not as well as some other connectors.
Its the stock adapter you get with the phone. After a while the prongs wear out. Third party chargers are excellent and a made more heavy duty and tight fitting. Thus they last longer.
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I am having the same problem and I know for a fact that the door is open I think I have another USB around so I will have to give that a try.
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Working Motorola Dev Cable

I'll make sure to get some photos up soon of the whole operation.
Anyway I managed to get a Dev Cable built to successfully re-flash firmware to the Atrix. I actually bricked my phone three times and instantly was able to re-flash to 1.8.3 and higher.
So first off I found a previous post on another form about making a dev cable and noticed all you need to do is run a wire from the 1 pin (which is 5V) to the 4 pin (which has nothing attached to it).
Micro USB pin diagram here:
http://www.kineteka.com/microusb-b.aspx
It seemed simple enough, but in reality it is a slight pain to get inside the injected plastic to get to the pins. Basically what I ended up doing (and I'll get pictures up here soon) is cut into the USB cable about 2 inches behind the micro USB plug to make the red wire (5V) accessible. Next I cut off the plastic shielding around the micro USB and slowly pried away the metal clips. The important part here is to not break off the tip of the USB cable that is used to secure the cable to the phone.
Now the hard part… if the plastic is clear then your work is cut out for you and you can just melt the plastic to the 4 pin connector and solder. If it’s not, then you have to do some careful exploring, the best option I have found is to melt the plastic to find the 4 pin. Cutting away the plastic also helps but caution you might cut into the wrong area and sever a wire (I did this twice already). Next step is to clean and solder a wire to the 4 pin connector; I used the wire from a butchered USB cable from this project, make sure the wire is long enough to allow for errors.
Finally run the wire back to the first cut in the USB cable and solder or use heat shrink tubing to bind the Red Wire (5V) to the jumper wire that runs from the 4 pin connector on the micro usb.
With a little luck it should work!
My soldering is not that great and one out of the two cables I made worked.
If you have any questions, ask!
Climber Ty said:
I'll make sure to get some photos up soon of the whole operation.
Anyway I managed to get a Dev Cable built to successfully re-flash firmware to the Atrix. I actually bricked my phone three times and instantly was able to re-flash to 1.8.3 and higher.
So first off I found a previous post on another form about making a dev cable and noticed all you need to do is run a wire from the 1 pin (which is 5V) to the 4 pin (which has nothing attached to it).
Micro USB pin diagram here:
http://www.kineteka.com/microusb-b.aspx
It seemed simple enough, but in reality it is a slight pain to get inside the injected plastic to get to the pins. Basically what I ended up doing (and I'll get pictures up here soon) is cut into the USB cable about 2 inches behind the micro USB plug to make the red wire (5V) accessible. Next I cut off the plastic shielding around the micro USB and slowly pried away the metal clips. The important part here is to not break off the tip of the USB cable that is used to secure the cable to the phone.
Now the hard part… if the plastic is clear then your work is cut out for you and you can just melt the plastic to the 4 pin connector and solder. If it’s not, then you have to do some careful exploring, the best option I have found is to melt the plastic to find the 4 pin. Cutting away the plastic also helps but caution you might cut into the wrong area and sever a wire (I did this twice already). Next step is to clean and solder a wire to the 4 pin connector; I used the wire from a butchered USB cable from this project, make sure the wire is long enough to allow for errors.
Finally run the wire back to the first cut in the USB cable and solder or use heat shrink tubing to bind the Red Wire (5V) to the jumper wire that runs from the 4 pin connector on the micro usb.
With a little luck it should work!
My soldering is not that great and one out of the two cables I made worked.
If you have any questions, ask!
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Buying one would be the perfect from you or ebay. I can't believe you bricked your phone that many times.
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unforgivenmercy said:
Buying one would be the perfect from you or ebay. I can't believe you bricked your phone that many times.
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All in the name of science hehe!
@unforgivenmercy
PM me your address and we will send you a free one for the idea.
Sounds great! appreciate your effort.
Nikropht said:
@unforgivenmercy
PM me your address and we will send you a free one for the idea.
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Thanks man. That would be much appreciated. Before I do send my info do you reside in the continental US?
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Is this not the same thing people were doing months ago to get USB host support? I made your same "dev" cable using an OTG cable and doing the soldering you did to the pins on your cable instead to the inside of a cheap USB hub. This made wire stripping and melting altogether unnecessary.
omni_angel7 said:
Is this not the same thing people were doing months ago to get USB host support? I made your same "dev" cable using an OTG cable and doing the soldering you did to the pins on your cable instead to the inside of a cheap USB hub. This made wire stripping and melting altogether unnecessary.
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Sure I don't see how it couldn't be used like that. I just did this because I had a few extra micro USB cables laying around and one bricked phone. Mostly I wanted to see if this would work... I did notice just now (at the time I just wanted to show the diagram) that the link I posted to the USB diagram actually just has the micro USB connector as a part. Which in all reality is somewhat easier since all you need is the 4 wires from a cut USB cable and a jumper wire from pin 1 to pin 4 and then shrink tube from there.
But I worked with what I had at the time and it functions.
See this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=997187
I don't think any hardbricking has been saved here...
What you had was soft bricking.
omni_angel7 said:
See this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=997187
I don't think any hardbricking has been saved here...
What you had was soft bricking.
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I didn't mention hard bricking, just bricking in general. I have another phone that has the
Code:
0x1000
Entering NVFlash recovery mode
Battery is too low to flash
that shows for three seconds and then the screen goes blank. From what I understand that is more of a hardbrick.
I'll try it on that and see if I have success.
cool work mahn!!
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unforgivenmercy said:
Thanks man. That would be much appreciated. Before I do send my info do you reside in the continental US?
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Yep we are in Texas!
Nikropht said:
@unforgivenmercy
PM me your address and we will send you a free one for the idea.
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This! Can it force my phone into RSD or Fastboot mode when it's hardbricked?
Climber Ty said:
I didn't mention hard bricking, just bricking in general. I have another phone that has the
Code:
0x1000
Entering NVFlash recovery mode
Battery is too low to flash
that shows for three seconds and then the screen goes blank. From what I understand that is more of a hardbrick.
I'll try it on that and see if I have success.
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I think that's a soft brick, but the battery is too low to flash so your gonna need a charged battery...
Alaq said:
This! Can it force my phone into RSD or Fastboot mode when it's hardbricked?
I think that's a soft brick, but the battery is too low to flash so your gonna need a charged battery...
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x0001 failed to boot is a HARD brick
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You have the numbers reversed anything that says failed to boot x1000 is a hard brick and apparently motorola doesn't fix them they usually give a refurbished phone.
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unforgivenmercy said:
You have the numbers reversed anything that says failed to boot x1000 is a hard brick and apparently motorola doesn't fix them they usually give a refurbished phone.
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Agree the I pulled out the phone that had a backwards firmware flash to 1.8.3 (the failed to boot 0x1000 one) and so far no luck on being able to get the NVFlash to stay up longer than a few seconds. I'll look into a few more options maybe I'll find out how to do this JTAG fix rumor that I see floating around on these forums. I know it's chasing ghosts through concrete walls, but I have the time/hardware to do it.
Do keep the updates coming if it works for you.
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unforgivenmercy said:
Do keep the updates coming if it works for you.
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Thanks, will do.
Climber Ty said:
Thanks, will do.
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No problem man.
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Docks?

Has anyone found and desk docks yet?
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http://www.gadgets4geeks.com.au/product/google_nexus_7_dock
NickFritz said:
http://www.gadgets4geeks.com.au/product/google_nexus_7_dock
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your my hero...thanks!
i found another http://bit.ly/Q8uU7c
Any docks with pogo pin support?
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I'm probably going to wait for this http://www.gear4.com/android/
or if something interesting comes out that uses the pogo pins, but I haven't seen anything yet.
found this one...
http://www.play.com/Electronics/Ele...-Desktop-Charger-Docking-Station/Product.html
Hard to believe no one has a simple landscape charging dock that uses the pogo pins yet, haven't even seen a pre-order announcement.
It probably won't be landscape for the pogo pins seeing as they are quite low down they could fit in a vertical dock. Also seeing as the home screen is vertical I don't see how an official landscape dock would come out.
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micromax said:
found this one...
http://www.play.com/Electronics/Ele...-Desktop-Charger-Docking-Station/Product.html
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Be warned, there are reports that this dock has the microUSB port rotated the wrong way so the Nexus 7 would have to be inserted facing backwards.
Am I correct in assuming that a dock is no use except as a paperweight if I'm not willing to remove Nexi™ from his little house?
And yes I'm serious. My toothbrush can charge without actually involving sockety things.
and now i'm starting to wonder why the hell any of my devices have pogo pins, i never find any reasonably dock that uses them for my gnex or the n7....
ejkeebler said:
and now i'm starting to wonder why the hell any of my devices have pogo pins, i never find any reasonably dock that uses them for my gnex or the n7....
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Its been reported Asus are producing a dock where it sits horizontally for movie watching. The pins are for that.
jholt1 said:
It probably won't be landscape for the pogo pins seeing as they are quite low down they could fit in a vertical dock. Also seeing as the home screen is vertical I don't see how an official landscape dock would come out.
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Nothing a new launcher doesn't fix as far as landscape for the home screen, Also I would think for watching movies, listening to music, etc. having it docked and charging would be a good thing and landscape is no problem.
With the pogo pins, they should be able to put two charging points, one for vertical and one for horizontal without any plugs sticking out and in the way.
jholt1 said:
It probably won't be landscape for the pogo pins seeing as they are quite low down they could fit in a vertical dock. Also seeing as the home screen is vertical I don't see how an official landscape dock would come out.
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The desk mode on the nexus works nicely in landscape with the stock launcher. Drop it in the dock and enjoy your nice new desk clock with multimedia functions
I wonder if they will eventually allow the stock launcher to use landscape fully? (without the need for third parties or dpi fiddles)
Anybody find any more docks?
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I've seen plenty of regular micro usb docks and ones with speakers too
philips had some I saw at bestbuy a year ago or so
so keep in mind there are plenty of non pogo options out right now that would support your other micro usb devices too
All I'm looking for is a charging dock stand so it can be used as a clock. I like the one on gadgets4geeks a lot but it's pretty expensive to ship to the USA.
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Today at work ive been playing around with one of the Kensington K33239 docks connected through USB-OTG. All ports seem to work except the audio and parallel ports. i managed to get the serial port working with the help of "Slick USB 2 Serial Terminal" as the only real reason i would need a serial port is for works router. works great, except that its only a docking station solution and does not charge the nexus 7 at the same time.
Nxxx said:
All I'm looking for is a charging dock stand so it can be used as a clock. I like the one on gadgets4geeks a lot but it's pretty expensive to ship to the USA.
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Agreed....I wish there was some way to adapt iHome and similar products to use microUSB.....

[Q] Replace USB Port / board

The male pins on the bottom on my Touchpad are broken (fell while it had a charging cable in it and of course landed right on the cable/port)
I can charge with a Touchstone charger just fine, but I want to use things like AcmeInstaller v3 and AcmeUninstaller, so I have a few questions:
1) I've looked at videos of how to take it apart (it's not under warranty anymore). Does anyone have experience with this and can relate to me how hard it actually is?
2) Does anyone have or know where I can find the USB port/daughter board that goes inside? I know it can be replaced, and I can find broken Touchpads on eBay but thought I would ask here first.
3) Is there a way to use Acmeuninstaller and AcmeInstaller v3 without being plugged into the computer via USB? (I'm figuring the answer is 'no' but figured it can't hurt to ask)
Thanks in advance for any help!
Re question 1 replacing USB board , there is a step by step guide with photographs in the iFixit app available in play store or from there website.
Thanks sstar! Found the guide here, now just have to find the part or a broken Touchpad on the cheap
Yeah, its super easy to remove. Parts, not so easy to find...
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Opening it is easy but still terrible. The clips are horrible, I ended up breaking nearly all of mine.
That's what I'm worried about. Any tips? How do you keep yours together now?
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Omg... just looked at that link for how to do it, and that's terrible. Lol. I use butter knifes and can still do a more sensible job of it. You can release the clips even before you pry up.
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Badger48 said:
The male pins on the bottom on my Touchpad are broken (fell while it had a charging cable in it and of course landed right on the cable/port)
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hahaaahaahahah mine fell like 5time on the ground on the usb port. from my bed.
and today it wont charge any more, i think he fell to many times. sucks, cause he didnt fell yesterday i think, but yeah, i guess im fuked now, he charges but so slow..... na i must say my tablet looks like he did the 2nd world war, the plastic is broken alost in every corner..
Any one a link for thr usb board?

Magnetic charger - would attaching the charger upside down do anything bad?

Some people have mentionned that attaching the magnetic charger the wrong way could have an ill effect on the phone. Is there any validity to this or is it just people spreading unbased rumors?
The pin holes are different shapes so that you can only properly connect it right side up, but some 3rd party chargers (including mine - the led charger) have the metal pins sticking out slightly beyond the safety holes, so the pins could make contact if I attach it wrong.
From a physics point of view, how is it any different from plugging in a plug into a wall outlet where the orientation of the plug is irrelevent?
it'll make your phone go BOOM, don't do it.
adamk7 said:
From a physics point of view, how is it any different from plugging in a plug into a wall outlet where the orientation of the plug is irrelevent?
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AC vs DC
Iruwen said:
AC vs DC
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Riight, thanks
I'm a little worried about this though.. I could see myself accidently plugging it in wrong. I have the black version of the phone which looks very similar front and back, I feel like it's just a matter of time before I mess up :\ Maybe I'll try to trim the charer pins a bit with a diamond dremel bit..
It just shuts my phone down when I put it the wrong way. Works fine after turning back on.
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I have the Magnector X charger and the pins are not sticking out. They are slightly below the plastic casing.
I put my Z1 the wrong way in my Brodit car holder (very good phone mount/holder by the way) and it just rebooted. It was no problem then
I also think there is no difference. I don't see any real facts about downside.
Haven't done anything bad with my phone it still charge as good, don't think it would matter at all
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It messes up the flux capacitor.
Good to see you can quit elementary school and still afford a decent smartphone.
Iruwen said:
Good to see you can quit elementary school and still afford a decent smartphone.
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Do you momentarily feel better about yourself after being a condescending ****?
pricey2009 said:
It just shuts my phone down when I put it the wrong way. Works fine after turning back on.
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Good to hear! Still don't feel like purposely testing it though.
Yes I do.

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