I was definitely able to talk and surf the web simultaneously on my gs3 but I cannot on my HTC one. Wtf. Does anyone have this problem
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CDMA does not allow for simultaneous voice and data. The GS3 and the Evo 4G LTE and a few others were able to do so only because Qualcomm made something special for them... But for the 600 it does not work sadly. 4G + voice works though. You'll get 4G soon enough :\
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I was definitely able to talk and surf the web simultaneously on my gs3 but I cannot on my HTC one. Wtf. Does anyone have this problem
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Are you on 4G LTE when trying this?
My one works. But I am in a lte coverage area
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Yep, if on 3g you won't be able to navigate and surf. I'm on a 4g lte area as well so I don't have this problem.
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jmcioc said:
I was definitely able to talk and surf the web simultaneously on my gs3 but I cannot on my HTC one. Wtf. Does anyone have this problem
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The S3 and EVO 4G LTE used the Qualcomm MSM8960 which allowed simultaneous Data and Talk via SVDO. This was as mentioned unique to the MSM8960 SoC and is no longer integrated into any Qualcomm SoC and therefore is not available and will not be available on Sprint phones going forward. This has been discussed elsewhere.
You can talk when connected to 4G and Wifi.
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The S3 and EVO 4G LTE used the Qualcomm MSM8960 which allowed simultaneous Data and Talk via SVDO. This was as mentioned unique to the MSM8960 SoC and is no longer integrated into any Qualcomm SoC and therefore is not available and will not be available on Sprint phones going forward. This has been discussed elsewhere.
You can talk when connected to 4G and Wifi.
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Well that makes that chip awesome. I don't know why they wouldn't further implement that feature. Oh well I probably won't be getting 4g for a while (officially). Does sgs4 support this or do you need 4g nowadays.
btw thanks everyone for the responses.
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Well that makes that chip awesome. I don't know why they wouldn't further implement that feature. Oh well I probably won't be getting 4g for a while (officially). Does sgs4 support this or do you need 4g nowadays.
btw thanks everyone for the responses.
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Sprint has said there will not be anymore SVDO phones. I think the idea is LTE for Data and CDMA for voice. Maybe eventually Voice over LTE?
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One subject I have not seen questioned yet is the ability of the Bionic to use voice and data similtanously. I would think it should be able to on at least 4g only like the lg revo. I wonder if it can also on 3g as well like the thunderbolt. Anyone know yet?
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You can only do it on 4G. The Thunderbolt can only do it on 4G. 3G on Verizon is CDMA and it is not capable of simultaneous voice and data. At least in its current Rev A state.
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You can only do it on 4G. The Thunderbolt can only do it on 4G. 3G on Verizon is CDMA and it is not capable of simultaneous voice and data. At least in its current Rev A state.
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Quite positive thunderbolt can do it on 3g. Its called "SVDO".
Revo and Charge can only do it 4g.
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I believe the Thunderbolt has dual radios to accomplish this? Am I mistaken? If that's the case, I've seen no mention of dual radios in the Bionic, but I will still be getting this beast!
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You can only do it on 4G. The Thunderbolt can only do it on 4G. 3G on Verizon is CDMA and it is not capable of simultaneous voice and data. At least in its current Rev A state.
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Nope. The Thunderbolt has SVDO. Simultaneous voice and data are possible over 3G.
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I believe the Thunderbolt has dual radios to accomplish this? Am I mistaken? If that's the case, I've seen no mention of dual radios in the Bionic, but I will still be getting this beast!
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No, the Thunderbolt has a radio with SVDO enabled. Even without LTE, the Thunderbolt can still do voice and data at the same time.
Regardless, the Bionic will have two separate radios as LTE enabled SOCs haven't been released yet.
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You can only do it on 4G. The Thunderbolt can only do it on 4G. 3G on Verizon is CDMA and it is not capable of simultaneous voice and data. At least in its current Rev A state.
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That is wrong. The thunderbolt can carry on a voice conversation and send/receive data while in 3g.
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No, the Thunderbolt has a radio with SVDO enabled. Even without LTE, the Thunderbolt can still do voice and data at the same time.
Regardless, the Bionic will have two separate radios as LTE enabled SOCs haven't been released yet.
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Actually the Thunderbolt also has two separate radios as well. The way it achieves SVDO is due to its LTE radio also being able to support EV-DO. The complete details can be found here.
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I dunno of u guys have heard this but the mg revolution well be the first vzw phone to have 4g voice and text!
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I dunno of u guys have heard this but the mg revolution well be the first vzw phone to have 4g voice and text!
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Haven't heard that but that's awesome! Can you post a link to the source?
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I am unsure as to what this means?
that was one of the things that drew me to this phone over the charge and thunderbolt, it supported VoLTE out of the box
here's a link to engadget: http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/20/verizons-reportedly-trials-volte-services-in-two-cities-eyes-n/
recognize that phone in the picture?
here's one from last Feb: http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/09/verizon-successfully-completes-first-volte-call-in-the-world-pl/
Hot dang. I have no clue what that all means, but I am glad it's on meh phone.
Edit: So does this mean that we can soon use tablets to call with bluetooth? That we don't need a radio to call? Hmm? That would seem interesting, and would make Verizon the leader of LTE indeed.
I heard it from my Verizon store.... anyone know when its sposed to happen
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all verizon has said is that it's supposed to launch nationwide in 2013, was supposed to launch this year. they've been testing it with the Revolution since last February.
It is the first phone you can actually Talk and surf the web at the same time.
VoLTE (Voice over LTE). You have to have 4G and you have to wait till next year. I love Verizon...
Like Kane it was one of the features that drew me to this phone but since Verizon has yet to put 4G in my area, I forgot about this feature. I bought this 4G phone because Verizon said it would be available in my area in October 2011... Here we are almost February 2012... No 4G. Now I am just shooting for before the end of the world in December...
That can't be true because... the revolution is current using 3g voice and text
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It is the first phone you can actually Talk and surf the web at the same time.
VoLTE (Voice over LTE). You have to have 4G and you have to wait till next year. I love Verizon...
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This is available already if you are in a 4g area. I talk and surf when I'm on the phone with people a lot
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Oh yea that's a good point
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Yeah, I've been talking and surfing for a while now here in St. Lou...
In 4G areas voice uses cdma, data lte. Works great.
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This is available already if you are in a 4g area. I talk and surf when I'm on the phone with people a lot
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All the 4g phones on Verizon are able to talk and text. I believe they are talking about making it so your phone calls and text messages will be carried over 4g compared to how Verizon transfers your calls and texts currently. It'll probably lead to your phone calls being much clearer in the future since it will be carried over a better network than it is currently.
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Ahh ok thought that was Volte. Learn something new everyday.
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This is available already if you are in a 4g area. I talk and surf when I'm on the phone with people a lot
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Not everyone lives in a 4G area... I live just north of LA and there is no 4G here which is odd as I can toss a rock and hit LA.
I can talk on the phone and tether at the same time, also text and all. For those of you that think VoLTE will be coming to the Revo, remember this phone has reached it's END OF LIFE. Whoever posted those articles the 2nd one was from last February. There are no more updates coming to this phone, there is no ICS until we get cm9. Someone would have to come up with a hack most likely to enable VoLTE on the Revo.
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I can talk on the phone and tether at the same time, also text and all. For those of you that think VoLTE will be coming to the Revo, remember this phone has reached it's END OF LIFE. Whoever posted those articles the 2nd one was from last February. There are no more updates coming to this phone, there is no ICS until we get cm9. Someone would have to come up with a hack most likely to enable VoLTE on the Revo.
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we don't need an update, VoLTE is already built into the revo.
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Yeah, I've been talking and surfing for a while now here in St. Lou...
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My brother from another mother. Where you at here in the Lou? I am at Westport.
heres the weird thing, my mom has an old blackberry 9900 and shes always been able to talk and surf.... dang blackberries
I know this doesn't sound possible hell I Dont believe it myself but I am in LittleRock Arkansas where Sprint has NO 4g, I'm up here at work bored so I flash the 1000 Verizon prl, I unlock my SIM card (don't think that mattered , I didn't put a SIM card in). I forced roaming on my phone and I about had a heart attack when the 4g showed in my notification bar!! I thought it may be wrong but I ran some speed test with and without it. The catch is I lost voice. How is this possible?
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When u get it again go to the 4g settings it should tell u some info
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Here's another pic
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Highly doubt it... Verizon is operating LTE on 700 mhz (the latest article I saw was that in 2015 they will plan to shift some EVDO to LTE on 1900). The Sprint HTC One only supports LTE on 1900.
Just because Sprint hasn't officially announced LTE in that area doesn't mean they haven't been doing the update. They have a ton of location that have spotty (and even complete) LTE coverage that aren't even officially on the LTE list.
The n.ispsn is something new also.
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Just because Sprint hasn't officially announced LTE in that area doesn't mean they haven't been doing the update. They have a ton of location that have spotty (and even complete) LTE coverage that aren't even officially on the LTE list.
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If this is in fact true, how come I can't get it on Sprint PRL?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_frequencies
4G Verizon Wireless 700 MHz, 1700/2100 MHz (Planned)
It is physically impossible for the Sprint HTC One to use Verizon LTE... The Sprint HTC One doesn't even have a radio chip for 700 mhz, let alone LTE on 800 mhz.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...ummer-start-selling-aws-friendly-phones-soon/
Verizon currently operates its LTE network exclusively on Band 13 (in the 700MHz range), a band it controls nationwide.
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http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/verizon-device-support-aws-lte-approved-fcc/2013-01-03
Verizon has indicated it plans to use AWS spectrum to augment its existing LTE network, which runs on its 700 MHz spectrum.
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If this is in fact true, how come I can't get it on Sprint PRL?
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i have the same thing on my phone and my prl is 55015
you are connecting to sprint 4g
Come on man....yes ive tried it. I only get 3g when on Spring's PRL. It's also strange that I lost voice when forced roaming.
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Congratulations sir you work now has 4G : )))
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Congratulations sir you work now has 4G : )))
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Lol! Look I'm not saying it's undoubtedly Verizon's 4g, I'm just saying that normally I Dont get 4G even when forcing roam. I flash the modded Verizon Prl still no 4g. I force roaming and boom 4g and no voice.
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I've played with some different PRL's some allow 4g, some don't. But on all the ones that allows it I can't download apps from the app store. Updating my profile loses 4g until the reboot.
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Lol! Look I'm not saying it's undoubtedly Verizon's 4g, I'm just saying that normally I Dont get 4G even when forcing roam. I flash the modded Verizon Prl still no 4g. I force roaming and boom 4g and no voice.
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Can you link me to that PRL? I'll give it a shot. Sprint has no 4G here so it will be a good test.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1267893
It's the 0001 prl
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I've played with some different PRL's some allow 4g, some don't. But on all the ones that allows it I can't download apps from the app store. Updating my profile loses 4g until the reboot.
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Force roaming causing 4G detection isn't anything new, actually. If you put the device into LTE mode only, it achieves something similar. The device would much rather stay on Sprint service if at all possible and will take a weak LTE signal if it can (even if it would normally prefer a nearby Sprint tower providing 3G coverage).
The speeds you've posted are in-line with a Sprint 4G test/slow rollout and would frankly be rather laughable on Verizon's 4G network-- if we get around the obvious hurtle that it is not physically possible for your phone to pick up Verizon's LTE, full stop.
Eliminate what's impossible (by hardware) and we have a series of at least possible alternatives.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1267893
It's the 0001 prl
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Oh, *that* one. I used to use it all the time until it stopped giving me Verizon 3G. Now all I get with it is 1x. I would try it, but I'm running 4.3 now and don't want to nandroid back to a Sense ROM just to confirm that it's not working.
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Lol! Look I'm not saying it's undoubtedly Verizon's 4g, I'm just saying that normally I Dont get 4G even when forcing roam. I flash the modded Verizon Prl still no 4g. I force roaming and boom 4g and no voice.
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Sprint 4G on initial release in an area or an a tower is very wonky. It's off and on, slow and only works at a short range. Just be patient and you will get it really soon. They just activated it in a couple areas where I live also. They tend to put them near Sprint Corp stores.
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The speeds you've posted are in-line with a Sprint 4G test/slow rollout and would frankly be rather laughable on Verizon's 4G network-- if we get around the obvious hurtle that it is not physically possible for your phone to pick up Verizon's LTE, full stop.
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It's probably Sprint I just can't [email protected]$king believe it. As impossible as my theory sounded, I thought it was more probable than Sprint bringing 4g to Arkansas. Here are some more speeds. I honestly don't know how they compare to Verizon's, I just wanted to show I got some consistent 9-10 range before it went to ****...
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It's probably Sprint I just can't [email protected]$king believe it. As impossible as my theory sounded, I thought it was more probable than Sprint bringing 4g to Arkansas. Here are some more speeds. I honestly don't know how they compare to Verizon's, I just wanted to show I got some consistent 9-10 range before it went to ****...
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Why is it unbelievable that Sprint is bringing 4g to Arkansas... They HAVE TO do the NV update on every single tower that broadcasts Sprint Signal. It is cheap as dirt to just add the LTE hardware into the NV station once the NV upgrade is completed. This is a nation wide requirement since they are about to do some wonky ass things on the 1900 MHz PCS bands (when they start to reallocate their allowed bandwidth to different techs, it is an across the board FCC license).
I'm from Arkansas too and have been keeping up with the 4G there because that's where I travel to every chance I get. Jonesboro has sprint lte and it's been planned for little rock and Fayetteville to get it for months. It was only a matter of which day. I'm surprised it took them this long. But it was expected. I'm so happy to hear this wonderful news
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http://www.engadget.com/2013/10/30/sprint-spark-enhanced-lte/
Does anyone know if our phone will support this updated network?
Just kinda wish they would put their focus into getting LTE into all markets first....there are a lot of people that have been patiently waiting to use LTE on their LTE devices that pay a pretty penny for!
Our phone isn't compatible
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I think at this point Sprint can kiss my ass. Total BS that their focus isn't on LTE.
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This is part of the lte focus. You can't get 60mbps over 3g.
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Spark is just a fancy name for the triband network(1900,800,2500). Its the second phase of network vision. The One only supports 1900. Sprint is movin g in a great direction with this. Using 3 bands in tandem will give crazy speeds.
http://blog.laptopmag.com/sprint-spark-hands-on-1-gbps
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Spark is just a fancy name for the triband network(1900,800,2500). Its the second phase of network vision. The One only supports 1900. Sprint is movin g in a great direction with this. Using 3 bands in tandem will give crazy speeds.
http://blog.laptopmag.com/sprint-spark-hands-on-1-gbps
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exactly...this is all part of network vision....they just added a name to it....with all the growing pains they're going through right now, it will be awesome once they're done.
I read somewhere that there MAY be a firmware update to enable this for us....is that true? I assumed that if the One Maxx is running the same hardware then the radios should be the same too
Not true. Our phone doesn't support Lte on 800 or 2600 so no spark on this phone.
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How many Sprint phones currently support these bands
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How many Sprint phones currently support these bands
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4 - HTC One max, LG G2, Samsung Galaxy Mega™ and Samsung Galaxy S® 4 mini.
http://newsroom.sprint.com/news-rel...-band-capable-smartphones-arrive-on-nov-8.htm
I love new technology & spark looks pretty cool, but all I see them talk about is data.....what about voice? Will the tri-band phones improve w/ voice usage? I don't use voice all that much, but when I do it usually sux @ss.
I updated to the latest OTA and I now don't have simultaneous voice + LTE. I know that the new tri band phones with Sprint Spark lost this feature but I didn't think the OTA would break an existing feature. Anyone else experience this??
First off, wrong section. Secondly, there is no way for that to be possible. When I was using the Sense 5.5 ports, the LTE signal would disappear on call, but the devs confirmed it was still working. We never found out why it happened, but data & voice on LTE will always work hence why everyone SVDO was dropped.
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First off, wrong section. Secondly, there is no way for that to be possible. When I was using the Sense 5.5 ports, the LTE signal would disappear on call, but the devs confirmed it was still working. We never found out why it happened, but data & voice on LTE will always work hence why everyone SVDO was dropped.
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You're wrong man this is the right section lol
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Let Kaos reign!!
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I can confirm that when on LTE and you get a call the data indicator shows as if your data dropped but data still works. Just noticed it myself yesterday as a matter of fact.
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You're wrong man this is the right section lol
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This should be in the Q&A section actually
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I remember on the Evo 4g LTE, you could do 3G while using voice. I wish that feature still worked... I still don't have 4G
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This should be in the Q&A section actually
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Exactly sir, thank you...
Data and voice at same times works fine on cm11.
I believe it worked for me on stock you just need to enable DDTM.
in dialler do ##3242#, edit, then enter your msl
I think its under evdo. Look for DDTM and set to enable.
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So this works with LTE only/ I know i lose 3G when i get a call because if im using data at the time i get a notification about no data connection.
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So this works with LTE only/ I know i lose 3G when i get a call because if im using data at the time i get a notification about no data connection.
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The EVO LTE & S3 generation of phones were the only SVDO phones. S4 until now CAN'T do voice over 3g. You'll only get voice/data on WiFi and/or LTE!
I have noticed that since the update every-time I end a call I get the no data message and it takes 20-30 seconds for it to come back, rather annoying actually.