[Q] Regards to GB to JB - Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys
Just wondering, how would I go about upgrading my samsumg S i9000, currently on gingerbread, to jelly bean?
I've read some tutorials and such, and they ramble on about 'ROMs'. Are these legit Jelly Bean firmwares or are they mimic version? (by mimic version, I mean did they just make their own like-a-version of JB)
What are the risks in doing it?
And what are the advantages in doing it?
What is the battery life in comparison?
Will I be able to revert back to GB if JB is too hardcore for me?
I have also read that once rooted, I may need to backup everytime an app is installed (Something along these lines) and that rooting should only be done if you are computer-pro.
So, if I installed JB and really liked it, would I be able to 'unroot' it so that it is almost like factory settings but with JB?
Cheers fellas
(Sorry about all of the questions)

hawaiianmofo said:
Hey guys
Just wondering, how would I go about upgrading my samsumg S i9000, currently on gingerbread, to jelly bean?
I've read some tutorials and such, and they ramble on about 'ROMs'. Are these legit Jelly Bean firmwares or are they mimic version? (by mimic version, I mean did they just make their own like-a-version of JB)
What are the risks in doing it?
And what are the advantages in doing it?
What is the battery life in comparison?
Will I be able to revert back to GB if JB is too hardcore for me?
I have also read that once rooted, I may need to backup everytime an app is installed (Something along these lines) and that rooting should only be done if you are computer-pro.
So, if I installed JB and really liked it, would I be able to 'unroot' it so that it is almost like factory settings but with JB?
Cheers fellas
(Sorry about all of the questions)
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Hey there,
So. All of your questions shall be answered
ROMs
The Galaxy S I9000 only received an official 2.3.6. So every Jelly Bean firmware you see in these forums aren't legitimate stock Samsung roms, more rather custom ones compiled from Google's code source. It is proper Jelly Bean, but not from Samsung- more rather adapted and custom-built for the Galaxy S. (I'm not quite sure the wording's right, but it makes more sense in my head, so I apologise in advance if this confuses you)
Risks:
-Bricking. There are quite a few problems that cac occur, but that's if something goes catastrophically wrong. Most problems are easily fixed, hard-bricking- which only really occurs if you flash a file made for a completely different device- is rare. Sticking to the tutorials means you won't run into many problems.
Advantages
-Speed. Many of these custom roms are optimised to maximise the speed and performance of the single-core in the I9000.
-Features. So many new features come with upgrading to Jelly Bean. Google Now, expandable notifications, lockscreen widgets are just a few of many.
-Customisation. Themes, apps, mods, you name it, there's a whole swathe of them.
Battery life
-JB relies on hardware acceleration to be buttery smooth. Pushing 60fps animations on a single-core processor, as well as other processes, do take a toll on the battery. On JB roms you'll probably notice a drop in battery life- provided you don't make any changes. There are many things you can do to improve your battery life though, so don't fret too much.
Reverting
Of course you can. There's many guides to help you through this as well (not to mention I do it quite often LOL)
Rooting/unrooting
Rooting is actually pretty easy to do. There are apps that let you root straight from your phone. You don't need to be a computer pro in order to root and install custom roms. I'm not that great with computers myself. You don't really need to backup every time you install an app. That's more of a precautionary measure, but you don't really need to do it. I don't quite see why you'd need to either.
As for unrooting... This isn't possible because the root in the Jelly Bean roms are essential for some things such as recovery to work. The system itself in some roms require root, mostly for customisations such as tablet mode and other nifty mods. In 4.2 roms though, the Superuser (the app that grants/denies root permission) is built into Settings so its quite non-invasive, and in 4.0.x/4.1.x you can hide it using launchers (even the stock launchers).
Hope that answers all your questions sufficiently! Just send back a reply if you want any extra info.
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Wow yes thankyou so much!!
That actually helps a lot.
Would the same things apply to Ice cream sandwhich? (Battery thing - I've read that ICS conserves more battery than JB?)
Would you recommend me upgrading up a new OS. (Given that warranty is probably out by now)
Cheers

hawaiianmofo said:
Wow yes thankyou so much!!
That actually helps a lot.
Would the same things apply to Ice cream sandwhich? (Battery thing - I've read that ICS conserves more battery than JB?)
Would you recommend me upgrading up a new OS. (Given that warranty is probably out by now)
Cheers
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What you've heard about ICS is right- Project Butter is purely a Jelly Bean thing. ICs does conserve a bit more battery- potentially quite a bit if you're a conservative user. ICS is still really smooth though.
The big downside about custom ICS roms compared to Jelly Bean is the lack of features. Developers, being the extremely talented people they are, have added so many new features to Jelly Bean- Halo, Per-App colour and DPI, PIE to name a few, as well as the ones already in Jelly Bean such as Google Now, lockscreen widgets and expandable notifications.
So if you don't mind not having some of those features (there are still lots and lots of mods for ICS), then its really up to you whether you want ICS or JB. Otherwise everything else I've said pretty much applies.
As for recommending- Its personal choice. Stock Gingerbread does have advantages over ICS/JB and vice-versa (hence why I stay on it most of the time). However personally if you're looking for speed and performance as well as more features/apps available to you, definitely upgrade.
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[Q] Custom rom worth it?

Hey guys,
I am now the owner of an Samsung Galaxy Note. I was wondering... is it worth it to root my phone in order to flash a custom rom? I mean... this phone is getting ICS any day now too.
What's the point of flashing a custom rom? What do you gain? Please let me know!
ROMs have their pluses and minuses. Freedom is what it's all about.
From all I gather, the current process available means that it is complete reversible. Devices can be unrooted and restored to normal condition.
Suppose it's a personal call. I like to play, so I'm rooting mine right now
So there's no real advantage? There's no (visible) increase in phone performance if I root my phone in order to flash it with a custom rom?
Frankly; I don't use my phone for games, so there's no point in me having that kind of "freedom". As long as I have whatsapp, E-mail and all those useful little widgets.
I just want to know whether or not there's a significant advantage to having my phone rooted and flashed with a custom rom.
impy101 said:
So there's no real advantage? There's no (visible) increase in phone performance if I root my phone in order to flash it with a custom rom?
Frankly; I don't use my phone for games, so there's no point in me having that kind of "freedom". As long as I have whatsapp, E-mail and all those useful little widgets.
I just want to know whether or not there's a significant advantage to having my phone rooted and flashed with a custom rom.
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Then this isn't for you. The whole point is customizations that may not be available otherwise, and in some cases an overall better rom (subjective). I personally like having that option, though I won't bother since like you said ice cream will come soon
impy101 said:
Hey guys,
What's the point of flashing a custom rom? What do you gain? Please let me know!
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I use a ROM because it runs faster/smoother, gets rid of stuff I don't want, and they can be easily modded further via themes and etc.
That said, the Note runs pretty well even stock. It's crazy smooth with the latest Cassy ROM but I'd assume that stock XLA3 runs well too. I'd suggest looking through ROM threads (you generally really only need to look at the first two posts), and see if there's anything you see that you like.
If nothing interests you, then don't bother. If so..... go get it.
Stock firmware, rooted is probably good enough for most people.
- Frank
impy101 said:
I mean... this phone is getting ICS any day now too.
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Is it ? Any sources on that ?
Anyway, I love custom ROM's (Coming from a HD2 ), but so far, i've only rooted the stock ROM. I was going to wait for ICS as I couldn't see any benefit to me on a custom one. Plus, i've only had the Note for a day now, so wanted to wait atleast a couple of days before I started to flash new ROM's if I was going to.
I'm the same as you, I don't play games or anything. Just the basics like email, widgets etc etc.
Yes. The note will have ICS any time soon now.
That being said; do some custom roms really go smoother and/or faster than stock roms? If so; aren't those custom roms buggy?
Also, what about battery life when it comes to custom roms? I experienced that when I had custom roms on my HTC Desire HD that the battery life was very bad.
That being said; do some custom roms really go smoother and/or faster than stock roms? If so; aren't those custom roms buggy?
Also, what about battery life when it comes to custom roms? I experienced that when I had custom roms on my HTC Desire HD that the battery life was very bad.
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Yes ics is comming but you cant exactly tell when so why wait for ics if you can have a better/faster and smoother Rom right now?!
They definitely do! It always depends what rom you are using but rocket rom for example has a smoothness fix in it and yes it is fckin smooth
Cant complain about my bettery life cant say if its true but in my opinion i have better battery life than before with rocketrom v17 and abysskernel 3.1
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I believe fast or slow Roms is gauged on the way the ui frame rate and "rubber band" respond method used in the ipad2. I can really get pissed off totally at how touchwiz behaves to the touch, no matter how you tweak it, the chezzy frame rate sucks. whereas cm9 mod 4.03 gives me the ipad2 feeling of a screamingly fast UI. Samsung! You better not screw up the ICS port you are working on for the note.
I better bet for cm9 to do better.
impy101 said:
Yes. The note will have ICS any time soon now.
That being said; do some custom roms really go smoother and/or faster than stock roms? If so; aren't those custom roms buggy?
Also, what about battery life when it comes to custom roms? I experienced that when I had custom roms on my HTC Desire HD that the battery life was very bad.
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There are lots of methods of speeding things up - shortening needless delays, removing things you don't need that consume RAM/CPU, removing logging that you don't need, etc. Some methods are safer than others. And optimizing for certain things may mean other things run slower. It all depends.
The same can be said for battery life.
I'd say that overall ROMS certainly run better than stock. You'll see yourself running kernel XXXX, and some people with ROMS on XXXX proclaiming great performance that you aren't seeing.
I'd disagree that there is an overall 'Best ROM'. There is, perhaps, a 'Best ROM' for YOU. In a dream world, the best ROM sacrifices everything you don't use, for stuff that you do use.
- Frank
impy101 said:
Yes. The note will have ICS any time soon now.
That being said; do some custom roms really go smoother and/or faster than stock roms? If so; aren't those custom roms buggy?
Also, what about battery life when it comes to custom roms? I experienced that when I had custom roms on my HTC Desire HD that the battery life was very bad.
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In the link you posted it says that ics " should get to note and galaxy 2 in the first quarter of 2012"
Should means nothing... First quarter means possibly April too..
Qvp said:
In the link you posted it says that ics " should get to note and galaxy 2 in the first quarter of 2012"
Should means nothing... First quarter means possibly April too..
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Fine. Message from Samsung saying that ICS for the Note WILL arrive in Q1 of 2012.
I moved back to the stock ROM
Being on 2 different ROMs, rocket rom v18 included. I've seen bugs and lags.
I'm rooted and have a kernel that let's me overclock to 1.6mhz. But ROM is stock
Just my 2 cents. Wait for the ICS
I do regret going past the KL3 threshold with an OTA update without rooting. Now I have to downgrade from KL7 to KK9 get root, if for no other reason than to use the AdFree app.
I will probably go ahead and trouble myself with it before another OTA pops up for the German debitel note since I am uncertain of what will happen once ICS does show up and I would rather be ready to go with mobile odin just in case.
Has anyone found a kernel/rom which uses an AOSP bluetooth stack?
This would fix audio quality issues with bluetooth A2DP
coming froma hd2 and many custom roms i have now settled on a stock room, rooted it and removed anything i dont need using root explorer and changed the launcher to go launcher
given the apps ripped out and change of launcher along with framework mods, its fast enough for my likings
Better battery(most improtant for me ), better performance and more eye candy. Try rocket 18 with speedmod 3, i lost 5% in 22 hrs.
Just to make things easy for the layman.
1) Stock TouchWizz v4 (2.3.6) = 75/100
2) VillianMOD (2.3.6) = 77/100
3) Pure Google (2.3.7) = 70/100
4) CM7.1 (2.3.7) = 85/100
5) MIUI v2.113 (2.3.7) = 89/100
6) Pure Google (4.0.1)= 90/100
7) Stock TouchWizz v4 (4.0.1) = ???
8) CM9 (4.0.1) = ???
9) MIUI v4 (4.0.1) = ???
As you can see, its not worth updating now, unless there's a function you really really want.
Wait for a stable CMod or MIUI ROM if you want to "upgrade".
P.S.
Blur (50), Sense (58), TimeScape (63), StageUI (65), iOS (80)
Maemo5 (pr1.2) = 100/99!!!
More's law:
If you install cROM once you install new cROM every 2 weeks.
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sacque said:
More's law:
If you install cROM once you install new cROM every 2 weeks.
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So true. That's exactly why i want Samsung to "limit" the amount of times i flash my phone vs limitless installs of cROMs
By the way, the only way to find out what the best cROM is, would be to use it for a while. Due to the fact that there are so many options, i think i'd stick to the official one.
I have an unlocked gNote so it may be different for those that have a carrier issued one and have bloatware on the device.
By the way, reading through hundreds of pages of ppl talking about a specific ROM will only make you more confusing

[Q] 's on Root Security, Tablet apps on a Note, Paranoia & More.

I have a few more questions before I make the leap to buy my first ever Android based device.
The Questions:
Will Rooting make my phone more susceptible to being Hijacked/Hacked /Virus?..so on. I presume its no, but security is nothing to play with. Does McAfee have an App? (That was a joke)
Is there currently anything I should stay way from that doesn't currently work or isn't stable with 4.0 Ice-cream Sandwich?
Will Adobes Apps (Photoshop Touch for example) work on the SAMSUNG GALAXY NOTE/GT-N7000? I ask this because said app is made for a tablet...but the GALAXY NOTE isn't your average tablet since it's a phone? It meets the resolution requirements... just not the size. Hence the confusion. This kind of thing is actually my biggest query at the moment...perhaps I should broaden the question...If it is made for a standard tablet, will it work with this sort of tablet?Would Paranoid Android assist me in this concern? (I think it would based on what I have seen)
Once I have rooted- is there any way for ME to customize the UI and how the hardware (such as GPS and Ram) functions. As you may have gathered I know my away around Adobe Suite and I could at the very least do some of that... or do I just have to...ugh...what's the jargon word...
Flash the Rom with someone else's handy work?
Does anyone have a recommendations on where I should buy the Unlocked SAMSUNG GALAXY NOTE/GT-N7000 Note? I just want to know the options I may have other than Amazon, Ebay, or Expansys.
- Doesn't really matter anymore. If anyone would still like to answer it -here it is.
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You all (well most) have been very helpful. I know the main purpose of this site is Modding Android (or at least the phones they come on) , and not to play 20 questions with the noob who doesn't even have the device yet!
So - Thank you for your understanding. It is greatly appreciated!
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Edit3: Found Answer to "Will THIS root method work with 4.0 Ice-cream Sandwich?" The answer is yes.
Bump!
This is the last time I intend to bump this (not that I wanted to in the first place). If this is truly meant to drift off unanswered than so be it.
I just hope that in the event of something horrible (or at least unknown) occurring to my phone that I can search the answer...since asking doesn't seem to be working at the moment.
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Read the last report of fsecure, it dont matter if you are root, just as vulnarable. Malware bring their own beer to the party. Depends on enduser
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I figured as much.
Ill go read the last report of fsecure right now. ^____^
Thanks.(..and feel free to answer more questions )
CrazyOGuy said:
I figured as much.
Ill go read the last report of fsecure right now. ^____^
Thanks.(..and feel free to answer more questions )
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Ok, if you can download it, Adobe it should work. You can try a custom rom which supports tablet mode should you not be able to download with normal dpi. That will enable tablet mode in market, after clearing market data and reboot it should become available for dl.
Currently there are a couple good stock ICS roms and a couple good custom roms. All (except cm9 xplodwild is safe, not other cm9) kernels are dangerous due to Brickrisk of known bug. However, all cm9 based suffer the bugs of cm9, speakerphone broken, high battery consumption, etc. Most have their own bugs on top.
Now ICS source is out wait a couple days as more custom roms and kernels will be build as well as bugfixes. And off course, support the devs with donations for coffee, so they stay awake and make no errors lmao .
I love this community, enjoy
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CrazyOGuy said:
I have a few more questions before I make the leap to buy my first ever Android based device.
The Questions:
Will Rooting make my phone more susceptible to being Hijacked/Hacked /Virus?..so on. I presume its no, but security is nothing to play with. Does McAfee have an App? (That was a joke)
Is there currently anything I should stay way from that doesn't currently work or isn't stable with 4.0 Ice-cream Sandwich?
Will Adobes Apps (Photoshop Touch for example) work on the SAMSUNG GALAXY NOTE/GT-N7000? I ask this because said app is made for a tablet...but the GALAXY NOTE isn't your average tablet since it's a phone? It meets the resolution requirements... just not the size. Hence the confusion. This kind of thing is actually my biggest query at the moment...perhaps I should broaden the question...If it is made for a standard tablet, will it work with this sort of tablet?Would Paranoid Android assist me in this concern? (I think it would based on what I have seen)
Once I have rooted- is there any way for ME to customize the UI and how the hardware (such as GPS and Ram) functions. As you may have gathered I know my away around Adobe Suite and I could at the very least do some of that... or do I just have to...ugh...what's the jargon word...
Flash the Rom with someone else's handy work?
Does anyone have a recommendations on where I should buy the Unlocked SAMSUNG GALAXY NOTE/GT-N7000 Note? I just want to know the options I may have other than Amazon, Ebay, or Expansys.
- Doesn't really matter anymore. If anyone would still like to answer it -here it is.
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You all (well most) have been very helpful. I know the main purpose of this site is Modding Android (or at least the phones they come on) , and not to play 20 questions with the noob who doesn't even have the device yet!
So - Thank you for your understanding. It is greatly appreciated!
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Edit3: Found Answer to "Will THIS root method work with 4.0 Ice-cream Sandwich?" The answer is yes.
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1. No. Truth is, root or no root, you are equally vulnerable to malware. Just read the reviews and all before installing any, you know, 'unknown' app.
2. Wiping, factory resets and CWM. Although this is just for stock German ICS and older ICS ROMs like Stunner. New ROMs like Paranoid, CM9 are safe. Still in case you must search before you do anything with custom ROMs just to be on the safe side.
3. Can't find Photoshop Touch on the play store. But there must be a work around am sure. I am using Paranoid by the way.
4. You can pretty much flash a custom ROM and flash various themes and things. Don't know about RAM but you can over clock or under clock your processor. There are various tweaks scattered so just search for it and more often than not you will find it. Carbon tweaks are really good. Search them in themes and apps.
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baz77 said:
Ok, if you can download it, Adobe it should work. You can try a custom rom which supports tablet mode should you not be able to download with normal dpi. That will enable tablet mode in market, after clearing market data and reboot it should become available for dl.
Tablet Mode. Ill look out for that in the features.
Currently there are a couple good stock ICS roms and a couple good custom roms. All (except cm9 xplodwild is safe, not other cm9) kernels are dangerous due to Brickrisk of known bug. However, all cm9 based suffer the bugs of cm9, speakerphone broken, high battery consumption, etc. Most have their own bugs on top.
Brick Risk Eh?...Well this is why I ask these things. Ill stay away from cm9/kernels. I know enough now that it looks like can look into some custom roms with a *little* more on the ball.
Now ICS source is out wait a couple days as more custom roms and kernels will be build as well as bugfixes. And off course, support the devs with donations for coffee, so they stay awake and make no errors lmao .
I love this community, enjoy
As far as communities go Its not that bad...if you can get a reply.
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sujal said:
1. No. Truth is, root or no root, you are equally vulnerable to malware. Just read the reviews and all before installing any, you know, 'unknown' app. What happens if root malware tries to root me. Must go deeper /s
2. Wiping, factory resets and CWM. Although this is just for stock German ICS and older ICS ROMs like Stunner. New ROMs like Paranoid, CM9 are safe. Still in case you must search before you do anything with custom ROMs just to be on the safe side.
Wouldn't do it any other way. I've already learned alot just from searching (presuming I can figure out the right question to input in the query)
3. Can't find Photoshop Touch on the play store. But there must be a work around am sure. I am using Paranoid by the way. I actually have it linked...oh...no I don't. Ok... Easy Fix.
4. You can pretty much flash a custom ROM and flash various themes and things. Don't know about RAM but you can over clock or under clock your processor. There are various tweaks scattered so just search for it and more often than not you will find it. Carbon tweaks are really good. Search them in themes and apps. Haven't heard of Carbon tweaks before. Will look it up.
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My words in BLUE.
What just happened there?
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What is this... I don't even. Looks like you just thanked me. Uhhhh...You are Welcome!^_^
Pro Tip: Look forward to a lot more question thick posts. Golly you all use a TON of acronyms and No Visual Aids.
CrazyOGuy said:
What is this... I don't even. Looks like you just thanked me. Uhhhh...You are Welcome!^_^
Pro Tip: Look forward to a lot more question thick posts. Golly you all use a TON of acronyms and No Visual Aids.
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Sorry for that man! Was more than half asleep. I thought some other guy gave me a link to Photoshop touch app so I thanked 'him' for that. Happens!
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Yes. Photoshop touch works in ICS.
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Opinions on Best Roms

Hello all
i have just been given a samsung galaxy note and would like to know your opinions on the fastest custom ROMS/Kernals ideally i am interested
in speed and battery life. what experiences have you guys had with modding your galaxy notes ?
any feedback as to your opinions of different ROMS is appreciated
-Cheers lads
The predictable Cyanogen answer with all based on Cyanogen.
Easy to flash, stock, fast, light on the battery, has the cooler stock Android ICS look. CM10 coming 'round the corner with JellyBean.
Not recommended for those that love TouchWiz and things like S-Memo.
Well at first i was scared of flashing CM based roms cuz i thought i.d loose s.memo.....but then i took the plunge n believe me m really happy with it.....
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fistofthenorth said:
Hello all
i have just been given a samsung galaxy note and would like to know your opinions on the fastest custom ROMS/Kernals ideally i am interested
in speed and battery life. what experiences have you guys had with modding your galaxy notes ?
any feedback as to your opinions of different ROMS is appreciated
-Cheers lads
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You may please search the forum, as a ROM poll is going on.
This post does not belong in the development section. Mods may please shift it to General Section
uafridi_1179 said:
Well at first i was scared of flashing CM based roms cuz i thought i.d loose s.memo.....but then i took the plunge n believe me m really happy with it.....
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You've got a few S-Pen tuned alternatives, like Papyrus. But the gain in performance and battery is really good when you compare it to TouchWiz ROMs. Adding the fact that IT'S SAFE, meaning you can flash/wipe all you want (the CM team did a WAY better job than Samsung on that) and...the choice is pretty obvious for me, really...
If you're going to look into TouchWiz ROMs, make sure you either choose one with a safe kernel included or flash a safe kernel afterwards (I think speedmod...??? Not really sure though, you'll have to research that)
Im using Criskelo v9 rom with GL- Notecore v8.1 (OC) kernel,everything working as it should and the speed is awesome as far as battery goes ive only been running the kernel a few days and it seems ok. I charge my phone every night so battery life is no issue here.Everbody's usage differs tho, if your after longer battey life i wouldnt opt for an OC kernel.
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Definitely the wrong forum to post this but..
STAXX Paranoid Android -- Best ROM to date.
eug3n91 said:
You've got a few S-Pen tuned alternatives, like Papyrus. But the gain in performance and battery is really good when you compare it to TouchWiz ROMs. Adding the fact that IT'S SAFE, meaning you can flash/wipe all you want (the CM team did a WAY better job than Samsung on that) and...the choice is pretty obvious for me, really...
If you're going to look into TouchWiz ROMs, make sure you either choose one with a safe kernel included or flash a safe kernel afterwards (I think speedmod...??? Not really sure though, you'll have to research that)
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Actually S-memo and the other sammy apps for the s-pen are better than the likes of papyrus and other apps. So for those who want/need s-memo stick with touchwiz based roms.
you guys can get angry with me but im honest to my heart,...as of now there is no rom that is completely good..im going back to gb
all tw ics roms have one major problem: SCROLLING aint smooth enough( ive tried em all)..they stutter like hell!!
and cm9 roms arent that great for battery life...
cm 10 aint fully functional...
all in all i hate it that samsung has created a wonderful device with awesome specs but totally screwed the software releases throughout...to make it even worse is black clipping!!.. im just irritated with this device, dont feel like owning a premium device...im about to sell it hopefully note 2 is better coz the spen and screen size are unbeatable!!!
Stock ROM is the best.
Hi your best option is to go for a Touchwiz rom which you can highly customize during installation. Chrack's and Criskelo are very good fully customizable rooms. They come with Aroma installation to let you remove a lot of bloat ware before installation.
Touchwiz roms also have the best kernels around. Like Note core and Speed mod. These give a very significant improvement in speed n battery. Of course cyanogen based roms r good. But the prob is u will be lacking some native drivers Samsung has integrated into the roms for the best performance. For ex, divx support is there by default, NTFS file format for SD card can be achieved, better drivers for display n graphics etc.
Touchwiz roms can crush cyanogen roms in benchmarks as well. Cyanogen can seem very smooth and fluid. But with the right launcher (apex or nova) u can easily give the rom a stock ICS feel as well. Hope this helped. Cheers
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The best ROM is the one that works best for you on your phone. Try a few out and decide for yourself.
And posts like this never belong in Development.

[Q] Which version of Android naturally runs the best?

First things first. This is NOT a "Which ROM is the best".
I want to know which version of Android under any circumstances, and almost specifically about specifications, will, does, or should run best on a Rogers i896 captivate. I have tried many different roms ranging from 2.2, 2.3, 2.3.3, 2.2.3, 4.01, 4.03, 4.1.1 etcetc and so far here are my observations:
The higher up in version, the better the battery life was, but the more glitches/issues/(sometimes lag) I encountered.
For the more technical people: Which version of android should run best on a Captivate considering things like bootloader etc (stuff I know nothing about).
Again, I'm not asking what ROM is better, and I understand that every ROM is different, but I want this from a technical standpoint!
Okay, thanks for taking the time to read the above paragraph and I'm looking forward to the knowledge.
For me, version 2.3.7 (CM 7.2) runs the best. Just bone stock CM. But then again that might be because I don't use this phone that often but it feels like it just runs better.
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ICS runs so much faster. Slim ICS is probably the quickest. Devil kernel is a fast kernel. Put em together!
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mikey199 said:
ICS runs so much faster. Slim ICS is probably the quickest. Devil kernel is a fast kernel. Put em together!
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Well, I admit that you might be right. My particular captivate never ran ICS or JB without performance problems, but that is just from my personal experience.
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I would like to know too. I put cm10 on my gfs phone and have had problems. What are most used gingerbread roms? I have looked through the forums but can't find anything solid, others input would help alot I had an epic myself just got gs3. The most stable daily I ran on my epic was 2.3.7. Would like something for her she doesn't ***** about.
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I never ran 4.0.x due to fear of the notorious "encryption unsuccessful" bug, so I can't comment on that one, but now running 4.1.2 (Slim Bean 2.7) and it is definitely smoother, faster, and more stable than any 2.3.x ROM ever was for me. My GB ROMs used to slow down and eventually hang, requiring a reboot every 2-3 days. 4.1.x has never done that-- it just runs and runs. It's so good, it has pretty much cured my previous thoughts of upgrading to a new phone.
As for the bootloaders, they only matter during boot, as the name implies. After that, they don't matter. Just make sure you have the GB bootloaders and you can use any ROM you want.
slim bean 2.7 works wonders for me and so did the previous version. Skip google now and you will be golden, at least form my experience.
Google now runs really bad on my phone as well. I wonder why it uses so much ram, it doesn't seem to be doing so much.
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hednik said:
slim bean 2.7 works wonders for me and so did the previous version. Skip google now and you will be golden, at least form my experience.
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arse87zx said:
Google now runs really bad on my phone as well. I wonder why it uses so much ram, it doesn't seem to be doing so much.
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I reverted to the standard Google Search. I find that it has more usefulness. Google Now seemed really cool, but in practice, I don't have much use for it.
RJ287 said:
First things first. This is NOT a "Which ROM is the best".
I want to know which version of Android under any circumstances, and almost specifically about specifications, will, does, or should run best on a Rogers i896 captivate. I have tried many different roms ranging from 2.2, 2.3, 2.3.3, 2.2.3, 4.01, 4.03, 4.1.1 etcetc and so far here are my observations:
The higher up in version, the better the battery life was, but the more glitches/issues/(sometimes lag) I encountered.
For the more technical people: Which version of android should run best on a Captivate considering things like bootloader etc (stuff I know nothing about).
Again, I'm not asking what ROM is better, and I understand that every ROM is different, but I want this from a technical standpoint!
Okay, thanks for taking the time to read the above paragraph and I'm looking forward to the knowledge.
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There is no specific version that runs naturally better. The smoothness of the rom depends on the developer and what changes he/she made to stock. No version of android after Froyo is naturally better than the others. While it is true that new versions of android bring new features, a good rom will run well regardless of version. This is the reason that stock is usually much more stable than custom roms. Stock is built for stability, so this boils down to which rom works best on your phone and with your preferences. The glitches and lag happen because most of the newer versions of android were never actually released for the captivate, so developers are porting from other sources. Another reason for glitches and lag is the limitations of captivate hardware. There is a reason why it does not receive any updates from samsung anymore. In samsung's eyes the phone's hardware has reached its potential. The captivate was released about 2 years ago, so according to Moore's law the software being released today is for devices that are 2 times more powerful. The fact that jelly bean is able to run at all on this phone is a feat to be proud of so kudos to the developers.
Also, bootloader does not have that much of an impact on performance. The bootloader is just the code that "loads the boot", or turns on the phone. The only thing that changing bootloader affects is compatibility with certain roms.
PS-I know some of the things seem unconnected to your original question, but I wanted to help you completely understand my answer.
sthodupunuri said:
There is no specific version that runs naturally better. The smoothness of the rom depends on the developer and what changes he/she made to stock. No version of android after Froyo is naturally better than the others. While it is true that new versions of android bring new features, a good rom will run well regardless of version. This is the reason that stock is usually much more stable than custom roms. Stock is built for stability, so this boils down to which rom works best on your phone and with your preferences. The glitches and lag happen because most of the newer versions of android were never actually released for the captivate, so developers are porting from other sources. Another reason for glitches and lag is the limitations of captivate hardware. There is a reason why it does not receive any updates from samsung anymore. In samsung's eyes the phone's hardware has reached its potential. The captivate was released about 2 years ago, so according to Moore's law the software being released today is for devices that are 2 times more powerful. The fact that jelly bean is able to run at all on this phone is a feat to be proud of so kudos to the developers.
Also, bootloader does not have that much of an impact on performance. The bootloader is just the code that "loads the boot", or turns on the phone. The only thing that changing bootloader affects is compatibility with certain roms.
PS-I know some of the things seem unconnected to your original question, but I wanted to help you completely understand my answer.
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Pretty much... I would have to say after using the Captivate on all versions except Eclair that Gingerbread runs the best. Not stock Gingerbread, but CM7 Gingerbread. While ICS/JB feel fast and smooth because of the hardware acceleration and nice animations, the system feels much slower overall and is often subjected to lag/lockups (partially due to things mentioned by the previous post). Things like Google now and Chrome were almost unusable for me. I would attribute the Gingerbread affinity due to the fact that the Captivate and Nexus S are very close hardware-wise, and that hardware was designed to run Gingerbread. CM7 was very fast, and if it weren't for the appearance of GB compared to JB, I would have stuck with it.
The stock gingerbread was getting worse by the day that's why I convinced her to put a rom on it. I never touched anything beyond gingerbread on my epic because I needed the phone to work for work. I will look into a gingerbread rom for stability.
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SlimBean
RJ287 said:
First things first. This is NOT a "Which ROM is the best".
I want to know which version of Android under any circumstances, and almost specifically about specifications, will, does, or should run best on a Rogers i896 captivate. I have tried many different roms ranging from 2.2, 2.3, 2.3.3, 2.2.3, 4.01, 4.03, 4.1.1 etcetc and so far here are my observations:
The higher up in version, the better the battery life was, but the more glitches/issues/(sometimes lag) I encountered.
For the more technical people: Which version of android should run best on a Captivate considering things like bootloader etc (stuff I know nothing about).
Again, I'm not asking what ROM is better, and I understand that every ROM is different, but I want this from a technical standpoint!
Okay, thanks for taking the time to read the above paragraph and I'm looking forward to the knowledge.
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I'D say SlimBean with sovaphone or somting kernal
can you guys tell me which is the best modem for battery use and best rom and kernel for battery am using slim 2.7 latest with stock kernel semophrne something i would appreciate if you guys share you experience
xtremists said:
can you guys tell me which is the best modem for battery use and best rom and kernel for battery am using slim 2.7 latest with stock kernel semophrne something i would appreciate if you guys share you experience
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Modem depends on geographical location, and the rest depends on what works best for your phone. That should be a decent setup though.
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ICS
For pure battery life I think Fasty KK4 was an excellent Gingerbread. I remember actually being blown away by the battery life.
As far as great performance, Team Nyx ICSSGS was the most rock solid! AOSP 4.0 was light and really fast with decent battery life. All in all, I would say that is my overall favorite of the roms I've run through the ol' cappy.

Jelly Bean on I9000...why bother?

What are the benefits of installing JB on an i9000?
I'm aware the FM radio on JB doesn't work and some other function too....then, it seems that all the sleek design of the new ROM will slow CPU speed - surely, is it worth bothering to install the latest ROMs on near outdated smartphones like the i9000?
I've stumbled on the JW4 stock and represent a worthy alternative to Gingerbread 2.3 - then for the sleek look I'm considering some themes....
Have I missed some relevant facts about the JB 4.2 on the i9000? Right now, I wouldn't bother.
xelaris said:
What are the benefits of installing JB on an i9000?
I'm aware the FM radio on JB doesn't work and some other function too....then, it seems that all the sleek design of the new ROM will slow CPU speed - surely, is it worth bothering to install the latest ROMs on near outdated smartphones like the i9000?
I've stumbled on the JW4 stock and represent a worthy alternative to Gingerbread 2.3 - then for the sleek look I'm considering some themes....
Have I missed some relevant facts about the JB 4.2 on the i9000? Right now, I wouldn't bother.
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Try it and see everything run at 60fps most of the time. It's smoother than my Galaxy S3.
TigerCourage said:
Try it and see everything run at 60fps most of the time. It's smoother than my Galaxy S3.
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For as far as I know, Cyanogenmod never really got Project Butter off the ground on Samsung devices running Exynos processors, like the i9000. I'm running 4.1 Cyanogenmod as well, and it does seem a tad more smooth, but I've no idea if that's because of Project Butter, or just the fact that it's a very nice android version.
I've just tested JB 4.2....nice and sleek look but not Swipe and what happened to my external SD? no "My File" is found so I can't search...no wonder when I check Storage on Settings gives me an error. The Camera also seems very limited (have I missed something?).
Exactly as I initially thought....
All this hype to get the latest ROMs are mostly superficial fads with no substance - good only for greedy developers and bored teenagers in search of new trills to impress their mates - nah, I like using Swipe and FM radio (and searching my files) - back to JW4.
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The Camera also seems very limited (have I missed something?).
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Yeah. They came up with a neat intuitive interface with 4.2 but stripped out so many features. Honestly who in the right mind thought it was a great idea to get rid of the timer option. I used the 4.2 camera for about a day before I just rolled back to the 4.1 camera
You're comparing a ROM that's barely even alpha. Try CM10 4.1.2 stable. That will give you a better idea of what cyanogenmod is capable of. And you can still install Swype. I'm using it right now.
And don't be a troll, it's not very nice
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xelaris said:
I've just tested JB 4.2....nice and sleek look but not Swipe and what happened to my external SD? no "My File" is found so I can't search...no wonder when I check Storage on Settings gives me an error. The Camera also seems very limited (have I missed something?).
Exactly as I initially thought....
All this hype to get the latest ROMs are mostly superficial fads with no substance - good only for greedy developers and bored teenagers in search of new trills to impress their mates - nah, I like using Swipe and FM radio (and searching my files) - back to JW4.
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So what's the intention of this thread then?
Try Mackay ROM or CM10. Both are stable and fluid and you will be happy with them. But if you don't even know how to install Swype you should probably stick to stock.
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Android jelly bean is fantastic because it is faster and smoother. To solve the problem of radio you should download spirit fm radio light that is NOT a streaming app, but uses the FM radio receiver installed by Samsung on Galaxy.
BlueFlame4 said:
So what's the intention of this thread then?
Try Mackay ROM or CM10. Both are stable and fluid and you will be happy with them. But if you don't even know how to install Swype you should probably stick to stock.
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in fact I've bothered to install swype by myself - never had to do before the "upgrade"?
An upgrade should include all the best functions - swype represents in my opinion the best way to input text - go figure why the developers forgot about it.
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Android jelly bean is fantastic because it is faster and smoother. To solve the problem of radio you should download spirit fm radio light that is NOT a streaming app, but uses the FM radio receiver installed by Samsung on Galaxy.
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ok, if the FM radio isn't lost then this might save the bacon...the future is radio via data or podcasting but when traveling abroad it might be useful to use FM radio to save data roaming (and power too).
I've tested 4 new ROMs (in 2 days): aosp, aokp, xbean, cm10 - the camera has lost many functions - still, the Galaxy doesn't even offer a flash - so, no big deal there.
The JW4 I'm using right now seems faster than any of the JB tested, but I agree about the new ROMs being smoother and more stylish.
The DSP on offer might be worth upgrading...
There are too many new functions which are a bit too geeky and many customizations are a bit OTT (reminds me of some linux distros)...so, I might be tempted to opt for Slim Bean (jelly bean without the fat)....still, I'll wait a few months
no videocall facility
I belive the custom Roms not support videocall fascilty, (correct me,If I am wrong). But rest everything is OK in JB Roms.
I have tried more than 4 ROMs including latest 4.2, None of othem having videocall button not integrated with .
But there are improvements in audio & video perfomance compare to Stock GB ROM.
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I belive the custom Roms not support videocall fascilty, (correct me,If I am wrong). But rest everything is OK in JB Roms.
I have tried more than 4 ROMs including latest 4.2, None of othem having videocall button not integrated with .
But there are improvements in audio & video perfomance compare to Stock GB ROM.
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Video calling is fine for me on JB.
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Seriously the sms quick reply function is by itself reason enough to go JellyBean.
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Hr Kristian said:
Seriously the sms quick reply function is by itself reason enough to go JellyBean.
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GoSMS supply the same functionality since long ago.
Can JB camera save to external SD? Try saving HD video on limited 8 GB internal storage
U should try "c-rom Mix v8" or "mckay rom build158 or 161,in my opinion its the two best roms available in JB,in McKay's build there is a small difference in smoothness between the two builds..
C-rom v8 is my favorite,its d... good
Just Because...
Because we can. You, good sir, are asking the wrong question..LOL Why wouldn't you want the latest version of android on existing hardware? It is like having the best of both worlds. New Software, same phone.
Imagine putting windows 8 on a 486, and having it run smoothly. That will never happen.... with android on the other hand... okay, perhaps a little exaggeration there, but you get the idea. (Unless you are to young to remember a 486,)
For me personally, it negates the need to buy a $500 - $600 phone, just to have the latest version of software.
I do however, understand your point of view. I hope that I have answered your question thoroughly.
My swype on 4.2.1 works fine. I do have an sdcard 0/1 bug. I consider that perfectly acceptable, in this scenario.
Panorama camera feature is neat. Although it is not something that I can see myself using a whole lot.
Jeremy
I think the choice belongs to everyone to flash JB...or not.
I tried but i'am back on GB with the sauRom V2. The BEST rom ever flashed on my phone ! ! !
I have tried Miui, Cyanogen, Ics, JB...... None of those roms compares to SauRom in my opinion.
Really worth a try ! Smooth, fast, stable, Very good battery life ! !
Since i'am using it, no need to flash anymore !
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GoSMS supply the same functionality since long ago.
Can JB camera save to external SD? Try saving HD video on limited 8 GB internal storage
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Last I checked the Go apps have ads or cost money. This is free, lightweight, and imo, perfect.
Yep, my 4.1.2 cam had external save location, silly my upgraded to 4.2.1 cam and lost it though x)
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Curriosity
Simple!
How much longer can our I9000 still be alive with the newest Android version?
That's most peoples reason for keep on flashing - or at least mine
JB drains battery so fast!
My experience, the battery drains so so fast. I tried some ROMS with JB and I went back to ICS.

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