"Big" troble with moboot and firmware - TouchPad Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Greetings!
If this question was early on this forum please forgive for double it, because my search gives no result.
Today wanted update my old CM7 for a new CM9, because last update was about 2 years ago. So I went to thematic forums and remind myself how to do this, i guided this and some of this
So I download palm drivers, then moboot 0.3.5, then ACMEInstaller3 and ACMEUninstaller and last CM9 (cm-9-20130714-NIGHTLY-tenderloin.zip )
Then,I uninstall old android with ACMEUninstaller (operation was succes) after I login In webOS and use Full erase.
After Install moboot and CM9, BUT I forget to add a Clockworckmod.zip in cminstall folder. So I use an ACMEUninstaller, but nothing happened, all uninstall process was very fast (about 2-5 sec, and table goes to reboot)
So I load in CM9, add clockworcmode.zip in cminstall directory, reboot in Recovery mode to use ACMEInstaller3 with Clockworckmode.
But again - nothing only 4menu was available . So I load webOS and use Secure Erase.
After reboot in moboot menu I was not able to load webOS.And I decide to use webOSDoctor (3.0.5) then check tablet and start to instal some files and stuck at 4% then touchpad reboot.
When table powered on moboot loaded again... I was surprised... when I use load webOS option - table goes in reboot and doctor don't answered, then I choose Recovery, doctor progress bar down to 1% and all starts over and over.
I decided to close doctor with task manager.
CM9 loads every 1 of 3 try's (when I choose load CyanogenMod)so I used it to update/renew files incminstall I was confuseed...
Then I uninstall from my PC palm/webdoctor/acme and install older or this same programs again, but it reinstalling wasn't helps.Older versions of moboot3.4/acme2/CM was useless.
I try to folow this instruction (Factory condition restoration / Downgrade to webOS 3.0.0), after step 5) In that command prompt, run ( novacom boot mem:// < nova-installer-image-topaz.uImage )
When table start a reboot process it was failed, because of moboot that load after table powered.
So at this moment I have a working moboot without clockwockmod, and recover mode.
I don't know what to do, please help some advice. Iam in desper

Even without moboot's "boot webOS recovery" option working [which I have never had the misfortune of experiencing], you can still enter that mode by powering on the TP with the Volume Up button held down.
If that doesn't work, try using tpdebrick... but follow the instructions exactly, and if you have ANY questions - do not proceed. Ask on this forum post.

castrwilliam said:
Even without moboot's "boot webOS recovery" option working [which I have never had the misfortune of experiencing], you can still enter that mode by powering on the TP with the Volume Up button held down.
If that doesn't work, try using tpdebrick... but follow the instructions exactly, and if you have ANY questions - do not proceed. Ask on this forum post.
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Yeah, i still can load webos recovery mode, but all what i use in that mode is not helping, webosdoctor and other commands like ACME. Just when touchap restart, he still load that same bugged moboot menu

FreeDooMF1 said:
Greetings!
If this question was early on this forum please forgive for double it, because my search gives no result.
Today wanted update my old CM7 for a new CM9, because last update was about 2 years ago. So I went to thematic forums and remind myself how to do this, i guided this and some of this
So I download palm drivers, then moboot 0.3.5, then ACMEInstaller3 and ACMEUninstaller and last CM9 (cm-9-20130714-NIGHTLY-tenderloin.zip )
Then,I uninstall old android with ACMEUninstaller (operation was succes) after I login In webOS and use Full erase.
After Install moboot and CM9, BUT I forget to add a Clockworckmod.zip in cminstall folder. So I use an ACMEUninstaller, but nothing happened, all uninstall process was very fast (about 2-5 sec, and table goes to reboot)
So I load in CM9, add clockworcmode.zip in cminstall directory, reboot in Recovery mode to use ACMEInstaller3 with Clockworckmode.
But again - nothing only 4menu was available . So I load webOS and use Secure Erase.
After reboot in moboot menu I was not able to load webOS.And I decide to use webOSDoctor (3.0.5) then check tablet and start to instal some files and stuck at 4% then touchpad reboot.
When table powered on moboot loaded again... I was surprised... when I use load webOS option - table goes in reboot and doctor don't answered, then I choose Recovery, doctor progress bar down to 1% and all starts over and over.
I decided to close doctor with task manager.
CM9 loads every 1 of 3 try's (when I choose load CyanogenMod)so I used it to update/renew files incminstall I was confuseed...
Then I uninstall from my PC palm/webdoctor/acme and install older or this same programs again, but it reinstalling wasn't helps.Older versions of moboot3.4/acme2/CM was useless.
I try to folow this instruction (Factory condition restoration / Downgrade to webOS 3.0.0), after step 5) In that command prompt, run ( novacom boot mem:// < nova-installer-image-topaz.uImage )
When table start a reboot process it was failed, because of moboot that load after table powered.
So at this moment I have a working moboot without clockwockmod, and recover mode.
I don't know what to do, please help some advice. Iam in desper
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You should probably stick with the most recent and updated Install guide. Did you happen to read this note?
3)Note: When using the acmeinstaller2/3, the Rom and Gapps files must begin with update-xxxx. If update- is not present the Rom and gapps may not install. You can add update- to the Rom & Gapps file names if it is missing.
I noticed you didn't use gapps, are you sure you read my guide?

RolandDeschain79 said:
You should probably stick with the most recent and updated Install guide. Did you happen to read this note?
3)Note: When using the acmeinstaller2/3, the Rom and Gapps files must begin with update-xxxx. If update- is not present the Rom and gapps may not install. You can add update- to the Rom & Gapps file names if it is missing.
I noticed you didn't use gapps, are you sure you read my guide?
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yes i forget about gapps at all. I didnt add it in cminstall folder on my tablet when i use acminstaller...
so what to do now? how erase all data and load webos again?

Problem solved
FreeDooMF1 said:
ok, topic can be close.
it's all about that i inattentive fool.
I dont reneme install files in cminstall folder that i added on table, and because of it ACME dont work right.
now all ok, i have full functional moboot and newest CM9 with play market.
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Glad to hear you got it all working (@ RootzWiki), you just needed the right info to get started Time to enjoy all that Android goodness on your TouchPad! Don't forget to make a Nandroid backup and transfer it to your computer. If anything goes wrong in the future, you will be fully prepared

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[Q] Warning sign with exclamation mark on boot

Hi,
I installed CM7 months ago, updated to WebOS 3.0.4, re-installed moboot via ACMEInstaller and am now running XRONified 2.9.1 odex and I was a happy geek until now.
Yesterday I booted into WebOS (as every day to video chat with my gf) and this morning I rebooted the device to load Android (again, as every day).
Then after shutting down and coming up again instead of loading moboot and booting into Android it showed me a nice warning sign with an exclamation mark and the text "www . palm . com / ROM".
Following that link on my computer leads to the Meta Doctor page so I think something got messed up mysteriously.
A few days ago WebOS showed up a notification for the WebOS 3.0.5 update which I didn't install.
I guess maybe it auto-updated over night and something went wrong ... ?!
Whatever, my question is:
Is it safe to simply doctor the device or do I first have to uninstall Android via ACMEUninstaller because of the partitions or such (read about some partition problems with the doctor ...) or do I need to do other preparations for doctoring?
EDIT
For a way to fix this without doctoring see post 5
real_sl4cker said:
Hi,
I installed CM7 months ago, updated to WebOS 3.0.4, re-installed moboot via ACMEInstaller and am now running XRONified 2.9.1 odex and I was a happy geek until now.
Yesterday I booted into WebOS (as every day to video chat with my gf) and this morning I rebooted the device to load Android (again, as every day).
Then after shutting down and coming up again instead of loading moboot and booting into Android it showed me a nice warning sign with an exclamation mark and the text "www . palm . com / ROM".
Following that link on my computer leads to the Meta Doctor page so I think something got messed up mysteriously.
A few days ago WebOS showed up a notification for the WebOS 3.0.5 update which I didn't install.
I guess maybe it auto-updated over night and something went wrong ... ?!
Whatever, my question is:
Is it safe to simply doctor the device or do I first have to uninstall Android via ACMEUninstaller because of the partitions or such (read about some partition problems with the doctor ...) or do I need to do other preparations for doctoring?
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Firstly try a reinstall of moboot and recover your android settings and apps. I use backup everything with everything "ticked".
Then docter and start a fresh total reinstall of everything.
Boot into Android.
Restore your apps first, check they all run OK and then restore your settings.
Would love to re-install moboot but I can't boot at all, neither into WebOS nor into Android, no sign of moboot, just the mentioned warning sign when turning the device on.
So I don't need to uninstall Android (remove the android partitions) before using WebOS Doctor?
real_sl4cker said:
Would love to re-install moboot but I can't boot at all, neither into WebOS nor into Android, no sign of moboot, just the mentioned warning sign when turning the device on.
So I don't need to uninstall Android (remove the android partitions) before using WebOS Doctor?
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I had to doctor my TP also. I didn't remove android (the files were still there). After doctoring, I reinstalled moboot using acmeinstall and restored a backup with cwm. Everything is working fine (so far).
Fixed it!
For reference:
Follow the steps from RootzWiki:
Still nothing? Or maybe you have a dreaded triangle-with-an-exclamation-mark on the screen?
Another "emergency" idea (for advanced folks only) is to boot ClockWorkMod Recovery *directly* from your computer via USB cable rather than from the TouchPad's internal storage. To try this, find an "update...zip" file that contains ClockWorkMod. Inside this zip file is a file called something like "uImage.ClockWorkMod". Extract/unzip that file to your computer, then use novacom (which you used with ACME installer) to "inject" ClockworkMod into your TouchPad.
This process should be familiar to you-- very similar in fact to using ACME Installer. It's done by starting the tablet with the up-volume key held down. When you see the USB icon, connect your computer to the TouchPad via USB, then, in a Terminal, navigate on your computer to where the uImage.ClockWorkmod file is, and type:
novacom boot mem:// < uImage.ClockworkMod
Assuming everything went well and ClockworkMod did start up, you may now use CWM to re-install "update...zip" files, restore from backups, format partitions, or reset everything to factory settings.
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Then ...
In CWM mount USB storage
If not exist create "cminstall" dir and put the moboot file into it from your computer
Reboot System and hold VOL UP again to get into recovery mode
Launch ACMEInstaller and let it install moboot
I'm now able to boot into WebOS via moboot but Android ends up in a boot loop so I will use ACMEUninstaller and setup everything again (just to be sure) ...
Sure reflashing and clearing caches will do as well but it's not bad to start fresh (see EDIT 2 for confirmation)
EDIT
Seems a failed update for UberKernel causes the problem. When trying to update UberKernel via Preware (I'm still on WebOS 3.0.4) it says something like "only xxxx of xxxx mb" extracted. When I reboot after that moboot is gone and the triangle is back and I have to repeat the process.
EDIT 2
Just for the sake of completeness (for those who don't want to start fresh): Clearing Cache and Dalvik cache and re-flashing XRONified 2.9.1 again solved the boot loop. All Data, Apps and stuff are still there. I will do a Titanium backup now, uninstall via ACMEUninstaller, Wipe the whole thing, setup WebOS and re-install Android. Spring Cleaning
chicle_11 said:
I had to doctor my TP also. I didn't remove android (the files were still there). After doctoring, I reinstalled moboot using acmeinstall and restored a backup with cwm. Everything is working fine (so far).
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Maybe it's version-related. Which version of WebOS-Doctor did you use?

How to install clockworkmod recovery

I followed the guide over at cyanogenmod for installing ICS. I had all of the files in the cminstall folder, moboot, recovery etc. I successfully installed CM9 but the recovery did not install. Rest of the files are no longer present in the cminstall folder, must have been deleted? But the recovery file is still there. So how do I install recovery so I can flash the gapps and so forth.
Thanks
This happened to me a couple days ago, what i did was the following:
1. place update-cwm_tenderloin-1012.zip in the cminstall folder in your touchpad. get another copy of the zip for the next step
2. Your going to run CWM through novacom, so unzip the update-cwm_tenderloin-1012.zip file wherever your novacom file is.
3. boot the Webos recovery
4.connect to pc, and run "novacom boot mem:// < uImage.ClockworkMod" (remove "") this should take you to CWM
5. goto install from zip, go to the cminstall folder and install the update-cwm_tenderloin-1012.zip . Reboot.
6. It should be there now... well it was for me
Thanks a lot, everything worked out perfectly
I had the same problem after following the guide on webOS Nation . I finally figured out what i did wrong and here is what i posted on there site.
The download link for ClockworkMod Recovery at CyanogenMod is WRONG use the mirror as you need update-cwm_tenderloin-1012.zip NOT recovery-clockwork-tenderloin-1012.zip if you use the wrong one as I did recovery will not be installed and you will probably spend hours or days as i did trying to figure why recovery is not in you boot menu . That said and done i LOVE the Android option and your easy install guide.
I hope this will help your members who may have had the same problem .
Many Thanks to the starter of this thread who helped me get my brain into gear.
Great Forum
sstar said:
I had the same problem after following the guide on webOS Nation . I finally figured out what i did wrong and here is what i posted on there site.
The download link for ClockworkMod Recovery at CyanogenMod is WRONG use the mirror as you need update-cwm_tenderloin-1012.zip NOT recovery-clockwork-tenderloin-1012.zip if you use the wrong one as I did recovery will not be installed and you will probably spend hours or days as i did trying to figure why recovery is not in you boot menu . That said and done i LOVE the Android option and your easy install guide.
I hope this will help your members who may have had the same problem .
Many Thanks to the starter of this thread who helped me get my brain into gear.
Great Forum
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I second this. I had this happen to me. Just get the right zip file and replace the old one on your computer then run ACMEinstaller again the same way you did the first time. The ClockworkMod zip should be the only file in that folder this time though.
CWM still not installing?
i have tried the correct file, and used acmeinstaller. I current have TWRP, but it is not flashing nightlies.. how do i install CWMRecovery now? any ideas?
https://www.box.com/shared/479acdb6ef9c99fc7b92
You guys ROCK!!!
After following, re-following, re-following, etc 8-10 different tutorials with virtually the same exact instructions, I finally found a thread that hit the nail on the head.... I successfully installed Alpha 2, and was able to access moboot to switch back and forth with WebOS, but despite my efforts, I simply couldn't get CWM Recovery or CM9 nightly installed.... Thank you sooooooooo much for helping me FINALLY get CWM Recovery 5.0.2.6 and 20120816 nightly successfully installed on my Touchpad!!!
NEVERMIND -- Fixed it.
Follow the instructions in here exactly and you won't have any issues. Make sure you're using the correct CWM zip file. (i.e. the one that starts with "update", download it here).
Also, make sure you have the updated, correct novacom file in Palm, Inc. See this helpful description and download link.
Also, as others have said, you can simply place ACMEInstaller2 in your Palm, Inc directory, and flash like you would normally by typing novacom boot mem:// < ACMEInstaller2
Spot on. Thanks.

Trouble installing moboot

Hi there everyone, I hope someone can help me out because I can't figure it out myself!
I used to have webOS and CWM 7 installed as dualboot on my touchpad.
However CWM 7 had tons of bugs and I decided to remove it.
I removed it by using webOSdoctor (and something else too perhaps)
Now when i tried to install android ICS using ACMEinstaller2, everything seems to go fine.
I get no error with the cmdprompt and there are bunches of lines passing through my touchpad.
When that's finished, it's supposed to reboot into moboot.
For some strange reason it doesn't.
I put all my files in cminstall folder on the touchpad as prescribed and acmeinstaller2 in the palm folder.
I get no erros, but I just can't boot into moboot because it goes straight to webOS as it would normally.
Anybody has any ideas or guides to I could follow in order to install Android afterall?
Thanks!
Did the moboot zip file you used have a filename that started with 'update-'. If not, AcmeInstaller2 would not have installed it. You should be able to just rename the zip file and run AcmeInstaller2 again.
It did not have update- in front of it.
I edited the filename and retried, yet results remain the same.
I re-ran the ACMEuninstaller once more,retried installing it and moboot seems to be installed as it should.
Thanks anyway!

Clockwork mod missing

Hi everybody I had a question, I tried installing TWRP from goomanager for the touchpad the other day. When it installed I went in to moboot and tried opening it it gave me the error invalid size. Also, after installing TWRP to option for clockwork mod disappeared on my moboot. So through intrernalz pro on web os I was able to remove the uimage of twrp from the boot folder, but that left me with only the option to boot into cyanogenmod and no type of recovery option available. I tried using acmeinstaller2, to just install CWM but after restarting there was nothing added to my moboot. I am sort of at a stand still since with out a recovery i cant update, nor can i recover from a back up. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks guys.
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zeroman9121 said:
Hi everybody I had a question, I tried installing TWRP from goomanager for the touchpad the other day. When it installed I went in to moboot and tried opening it it gave me the error invalid size. Also, after installing TWRP to option for clockwork mod disappeared on my moboot. So through intrernalz pro on web os I was able to remove the uimage of twrp from the boot folder, but that left me with only the option to boot into cyanogenmod and no type of recovery option available. I tried using acmeinstaller2, to just install CWM but after restarting there was nothing added to my moboot. I am sort of at a stand still since with out a recovery i cant update, nor can i recover from a back up. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks guys.
- Zero
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Do you still have "ulmage.ClockworkMod" in the boot folder, it sounds like it must be gone or it should show up as an option in moboot? With mine when I installed TWRP it didn't change the options in moboot, moboot still says ClockworkMod but when that is selected it goes into TWRP and there is no "ulmage.TWRP" in my boot folder. I thought that was how TWRP was meant to install on the TP. I'm not sure if there is another way to install CWM other than with the ACME2installer, might be worth a search.
Did you make sure "update-cwm_tenderloin-1012" was in the "cminstall" folder when you ran ACME2?
You could move your backup to comp, run ACMEuninstaller and webos doctor and start from scratch and install CM9. Then just restore from your backup. I've done that a few times for other reasons.
Good Luck
Thanks for the help man, the CWM i was using was called recovery_cwm and i just had to change the name to update_cwm and let acmeinstaller do the rest. Saved me alot of time by avoiding uninstalling everything and restoring.
- Zero
CWM gone while installing TWRP through gooMan
Hi Zero,
Sorry but I am totally new to android and on how to install it in my TP. But, I was successfully running Cyanogenmod for sometime now until I thought of installing TWRP in my TP instead of CWM as installing nightly updates was becoming difficult for me.
I tried to install twrp through gooManager so that I would have both the option of Clockworkmod and twrp. SInce twrp is a better ui, I thought of using it instead of ClockworkMod.
So, I went to their site: teamw.in/project/twrp2/75
and followed the following:
Install the app and open it. Tap menu then hit Install OpenRecoveryScript. Tap Yes. Verify that the filename displays your device's code name and hit Yes. The file will download and your device will reboot and install the recovery automatically.
By doing so, it did not reboot but while I tried to reboot myself, I saw that the ClockWorkMod menu is gone from moboot and I have no recovery option left. The menu has 'Boot TWRP' but when selecting that, it says corrupt data and my TP hangs.
Please guide me in getting CWM back or get the TWRP.
Please help!!! Thanks in anticipation.
avisekhg said:
Hi Zero,
Sorry but I am totally new to android and on how to install it in my TP. But, I was successfully running Cyanogenmod for sometime now until I thought of installing TWRP in my TP instead of CWM as installing nightly updates was becoming difficult for me.
I tried to install twrp through gooManager so that I would have both the option of Clockworkmod and twrp. SInce twrp is a better ui, I thought of using it instead of ClockworkMod.
So, I went to their site: teamw.in/project/twrp2/75
and followed the following:
Install the app and open it. Tap menu then hit Install OpenRecoveryScript. Tap Yes. Verify that the filename displays your device's code name and hit Yes. The file will download and your device will reboot and install the recovery automatically.
By doing so, it did not reboot but while I tried to reboot myself, I saw that the ClockWorkMod menu is gone from moboot and I have no recovery option left. The menu has 'Boot TWRP' but when selecting that, it says corrupt data and my TP hangs.
Please guide me in getting CWM back or get the TWRP.
Please help!!! Thanks in anticipation.
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If you have the install zip from sd card option, then flash jcsullins' recovery. Use the 12/15 version.
You can also install the same recovery using acmeinstaller 3.
There's a moboot cleaning utility, on the classic nerds' site (use it if you need to get rid of 'ghost' uimages).
Edit : here's the link to jcsullins' recovery : http://goo.im/devs/jcsullins/cmtouchpad/recovery
Edit 2 : here's another link that would be useful : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2030675&page=4

[Q] After Schzoid 22Jul2013, cannot boot to recovery.

I first installed Schizoid 2.10_jb-22Jul2013 and then reverted to skz_tenderloin-2.10_jb_4.2.2-29JUN2013-130837.zip. This is probably my error in installing so I can't blame the ROM. This screwup resulted in wiping out all other boot options so that I could only reboot to Cyangen Mod. Reboot to recovery or bootloader from Schizoid all resulted in a boot back to Schizoid. I've tried using GooManager and Rom Manager but it appears that they cannot get Superuser authority.
SYMPTOMS:
a) In Terminal Emulator, the 'su' command gets '/system/bin/sh: su not found'.
b) GooManager issues 'Preparing to Flash' message but never does the command.
c) Rom Manager issues "You must root your phone fo ROM Manager to function. Superuser was not found at "/system/bin/su" or "system/xbin/su" Use Google Search on you computer to find instructions to root your phone.'
d) Tried installing CWM recovery from ROM Manager but get 'Unspported Device'.
d) I tried pressing down both the Power and Home buttons but I get 'Please release keys'.
While it appears that the ROM works OK for most apps and I have a USB device driver that works, I'd like to be able to backup and update when improvements are made.
SOLUTION:
I first tried holding the HOME and POWER buttons but that did nothing. I then tried holding down both the Power and Volume Up buttons at startup. This brings up the USB logo on the screen. I have it tethered to my computer running Windows 7. This failed to install the Palm device driver. I had to download WebOS Docter 3.0.5 to go back to Web OS stock.
The following link walks you through the re-install process.
http://theunlockr.com/2011/10/18/how...e-hp-touchpad/
You need an account with HP WebOS. Here's the link for the download of WebOS.
http://ws.hpwebos.com/webosdoctor/webosdoctor.htm?
The process took over an hour but I was able to boot to the stock HP WebOS. I did not lose my data files but it wiped out all my boot-loader and Android entries.
After the return to stock, I followed the very detailed instructions to install CWM recovery (Great stuff!):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/HP_Touchpad
The only thing different I would suggest is to download ACMEInstaller3 instead of ACMEInstaller2. I had a problem later that caused me to repeat the process again which I think is a result of the way ACMEInstaller2 divides the partitions.
My process came up with CWM recovery, WEB OS, and WEB OS recovery on the boot menu. From here I installed Cyanagenmod 9. After booting to CM 9, I installed GooManager and the latest TWRP. A boot to TWRP allowed a restore of my good backup and a return to my setup prior to the screwup and brought me back to my regular setup.
Get USB sign with Power and Volume UP
See main text above.
Re-install WebOS
See main text above.
Restoring Multiboot with CM9
See main text above.

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