Hey guys
I searched around and didn't seem to find the answer to my question. Its been a long time since I had an HTC(og Evo) and I think I've read too much to where I have confused myself. I have the Att version,
I've unlocked the bootloader and have S-off using the moonshine method. I am interested in updating my firmware.
As I understand it I have the moonshine custom 1.44 hboot but if I update my firmware will it not update my hboot to 1.54 which has no S-off yet?
I guess my main question is does the firmware update change my hboot and if it does will it mess with my S-off status or worse brick my phone.
I know I sound like a noob but ive been flashing for years, just a little turned around on the HTC side of things.
Thanks in advance!
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Nothing you flash here will remove s-off. Hboot is the bootloader. These firmware zips include the hboot and drivers for things like touchscreen.
gunnyman said:
Nothing you flash here will remove s-off. Hboot is the bootloader. These firmware zips include the hboot and drivers for things like touchscreen.
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Okay thanks! So if I flash the 2.24 firmware will it update my hboot to 1.54?
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capathy21 said:
Okay thanks! So if I flash the 2.24 firmware will it update my hboot to 1.54?
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Thank you!
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So i need to sell my phone because of several cash flow reasons. :crying: The person who is buying off me doesnt want the phone to be rooted. I tried looking for a back to stock thread but found nothing so far, or i am not looking hard enough.
So i just need the root to be gone and the bootloader to be locked as it was. How do i do that? Your help is greatly appreciated. I got a day to settle all this
Evaravenspell said:
So i need to sell my phone because of several cash flow reasons. :crying: The person who is buying off me doesnt want the phone to be rooted. I tried looking for a back to stock thread but found nothing so far, or i am not looking hard enough.
So i just need the root to be gone and the bootloader to be locked as it was. How do i do that? Your help is greatly appreciated. I got a day to settle all this
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What rom are you on, are you S-Off, what bootloader do you have?
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What rom are you on, are you S-Off, what bootloader do you have?
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I am on android revolution. And how do I check if I have s-off or not. And bootloader how do I check that?
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Evaravenspell said:
I am on android revolution. And how do I check if I have s-off or not. And bootloader how do I check that?
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Go to this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314582 site and get S-Off and then you will be able to downgrade to 4.1.2. Up date it and then go S-On and lock the boottloader. All is written in the OP of the mentioned site.
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Go to this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314582 site and get S-Off and then you will be able to downgrade to 4.1.2. Up date it and then go S-On and lock the boottloader. All is written in the OP of the mentioned site.
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Thanks a bunch! I'll go have a look.
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gee2012 said:
Go to this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314582 site and get S-Off and then you will be able to downgrade to 4.1.2. Up date it and then go S-On and lock the boottloader. All is written in the OP of the mentioned site.
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Lol i managed to s-off and remove the tamper mark on this phone but it does not mention anything about downgrading
Use an Official HTC RUU to downgrade after gaining s-on again
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gazlufc said:
Use an Official HTC RUU to downgrade after gaining s-on again
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can we get this on a mac? All i see is on windows
On top of that, some of the RUU's are in exe and some are in zip. I downloaded an .exe one. Can i use that to flash in recovery?
Evaravenspell said:
can we get this on a mac? All i see is on windows
On top of that, some of the RUU's are in exe and some are in zip. I downloaded an .exe one. Can i use that to flash in recovery?
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I know that if you can get a Windows Vitual machine running on Mac you can do it.
Then when the RUU is running you can search for the ROM
Check it out. I know if you use the HTC one AIIO toolkit you can flash the extracted data to your device. Even the recovery.img from a stock RUU.
Let me know how you get on
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Go to this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314582 site and get S-Off and then you will be able to downgrade to 4.1.2. Up date it and then go S-On and lock the boottloader. All is written in the OP of the mentioned site.
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I'm in the same situation. How do I downgrade to 4.1.2 after I get S-Off?
markvdn said:
I'm in the same situation. How do I downgrade to 4.1.2 after I get S-Off?
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Lock the bootloader with revone and flash a RUU (European or WWE), like this one http://bugsylawson.com/files/file/1...13323127-1031113105-release-310878-signedexe/, then run revone and remove tampered message (if you have that) in bootloder but i would keep S-Off if i we`re you forever.
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Lock the bootloader with revone and flash a RUU (European or WWE), like this one http://bugsylawson.com/files/file/1...13323127-1031113105-release-310878-signedexe/, then run revone and remove tampered message (if you have that) in bootloder but i would keep S-Off if i we`re you forever.
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Unfortunately it comes up with this, and then fails at updating a while later. Turns out my hboot is 1.54 so I can't use revone right?
I remember there is a method of tricking the ruu in to thinking the device is older.if I'm not mistaken it's the changing of the cid
But someone would need to verify that one
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I remember there is a method of tricking the ruu in to thinking the device is older.if I'm not mistaken it's the changing of the cid
But someone would need to verify that one
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You probably need S-Off for that right? I'm on the 1.54 hboot and the s-off method only works on 1.44 I think.
The thing is, I just noticed factory reset did not remove root.. So i'll try to unroot it first and then run the update agaib.
(also could you reply to my post directly next time? else I don't get the notification that you've answered)
Hello,
I have been researching here to find a way to downgrade to a previous version of a firmware so that I can S-Off, and to no avail unsure how to do it myself using either use Moonshine or revone.
The reason I wish to do this is that I want to install Google Play edition and of course the necessary info to install it.
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EvilSpants said:
Hello,
I have been researching here to find a way to downgrade to a previous version of a firmware so that I can S-Off, and to no avail unsure how to do it myself using either use Moonshine or revone.
The reason I wish to do this is that I want to install Google Play edition and of course the necessary info to install it.
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If I'm not mistaken the ROM firmware is irrelevant as to if you can root or not, or get-S-OFF. The most important factor for S-OFF is the bootloader version. I haven't seen any threads about getting S-OFF on bootloader 1.54.
Reboot to your bootloader (turn device off, hold volume down and turn device on). Check your HBOOT version there. If it says 1.54, then the only possible solution is to search for an official HTC RUU with a lower HBOOT version. However I do not know if this will actually work.
RadiatorRXD said:
If I'm not mistaken the ROM firmware is irrelevant as to if you can root or not, or get-S-OFF. The most important factor for S-OFF is the bootloader version. I haven't seen any threads about getting S-OFF on bootloader 1.54.
Reboot to your bootloader (turn device off, hold volume down and turn device on). Check your HBOOT version there. If it says 1.54, then the only possible solution is to search for an official HTC RUU with a lower HBOOT version. However I do not know if this will actually work.
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Alright. Assuming that works, is there a way to reflash?
[Edit] Just checked my bootloader it says that I have 1.44. However I have tried both Revone and S-off with no success
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EvilSpants said:
Alright. Assuming that works, is there a way to reflash?
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Don't really know what you mean by reflash? Returning to the newer HBOOT (1.54)?
If that's the case, once you're S-OFF you can update the HBOOT to 1.54 and S-OFF will still be there. There are some threads in the development section about upgrading the HBOOT. I used these myself without issues.
As for the official RUU, this will probably be a Google search. I haven't seen a thread around with these files.
Keep in mind that flashing an original RUU will result in loss of root and custom recovery. You will need to re-root after flashing the RUU and reflash a custom recovery.
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Don't really know what you mean by reflash? Returning to the newer HBOOT (1.54)?
If that's the case, once you're S-OFF you can update the HBOOT to 1.54 and S-OFF will still be there. There are some threads in the development section about upgrading the HBOOT. I used these myself without issues.
As for the official RUU, this will probably be a Google search. I haven't seen a thread around with these files.
Keep in mind that flashing an original RUU will result in loss of root and custom recovery. You will need to re-root after flashing the RUU and reflash a custom recovery.
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A little bit off topic here but ..if I am s- off already and I were to use a stock ruu on my phone all that I will I loose is the recovery and root?... So after I run ruu my device will still be s-off ?
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NORCALkID said:
A little bit off topic here but ..if I am s- off already and I were to use a stock ruu on my phone all that I will I loose is the recovery and root?... So after I run ruu my device will still be s-off ?
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I think so yes, but I'm not 100% sure. You may find the answer, or ask the question in the hboot update threads or s-off threads. I haven't flashed a RUU myself in years.
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RadiatorRXD said:
Don't really know what you mean by reflash? Returning to the newer HBOOT (1.54)?
If that's the case, once you're S-OFF you can update the HBOOT to 1.54 and S-OFF will still be there. There are some threads in the development section about upgrading the HBOOT. I used these myself without issues.
As for the official RUU, this will probably be a Google search. I haven't seen a thread around with these files.
Keep in mind that flashing an original RUU will result in loss of root and custom recovery. You will need to re-root after flashing the RUU and reflash a custom recovery.
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What I mean to say is that once I have found one with an older HBoot, how do I go about flashing that so that I can do one of the two S-Off procedures?
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EvilSpants said:
What I mean to say is that once I have found one with an older HBoot, how do I go about flashing that so that I can do one of the two S-Off procedures?
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Ah ok. The RUU should be a windows executable. Just hook up the phone to computer, start the RUU and follow the on-screen instructions.
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RadiatorRXD said:
Ah ok. The RUU should be a windows executable. Just hook up the phone to computer, start the RUU and follow the on-screen instructions.
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I assume the RUUs can be pulled from HTCdev?
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EvilSpants said:
I assume the RUUs can be pulled from HTCdev?
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Here's an article about flashing a RUU: Flash RUU
It has a link to a website which contains several RUU files to download: HERE
RadiatorRXD said:
If I'm not mistaken the ROM firmware is irrelevant as to if you can root or not, or get-S-OFF. The most important factor for S-OFF is the bootloader version. I haven't seen any threads about getting S-OFF on bootloader 1.54.
Reboot to your bootloader (turn device off, hold volume down and turn device on). Check your HBOOT version there. If it says 1.54, then the only possible solution is to search for an official HTC RUU with a lower HBOOT version. However I do not know if this will actually work.
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I was s-off with stock unrooted locked 2.24.401.1 firmware (ruu'ed by repair center)and tried to use revone to unlock again but it would fail, then I downgraded to hboot 1.44 (I could still do this because I was s-off already) but revone would still fail, then I decided to properly downgrade to 1.28(or was that 29).401.?? with an ruu and was able to use revone again to unlock my bootloader, so hboot is not the only factor for revone to be succesful...
downgrading hboot and other system partitions, except kernel rom radio and recovery, is not possible if you are not s-off already....
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Ah ok. The RUU should be a windows executable. Just hook up the phone to computer, start the RUU and follow the on-screen instructions.
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My downgrade attempt failed with one of the executables. I am not sure what to try next.
EvilSpants said:
My downgrade attempt failed with one of the executables. I am not sure what to try next.
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I'm at a loss here, sorry.
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I'm at a loss here, sorry.
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I should note that I did not retry, however I figure that if it fails the first time, then it wouldn't succeed a second?
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I should note that I did not retry, however I figure that if it fails the first time, then it wouldn't succeed a second?
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You could always try a second time. Maybe also post a screenshot of the failure.
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You could always try a second time. Maybe also post a screenshot of the failure.
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At this point I am looking at installing a custom recovery, though from what I am reading I may not be able to do that without S-OFF, so I am stuck if this is true.
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At this point I am looking at installing a custom recovery, though from what I am reading I may not be able to do that without S-OFF, so I am stuck if this is true.
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S-OFF is not needed for root or custom recovery. You do need an unlocked bootloader though. On other devices S-OFF was needed to flash radio's or kernels through recovery, but from what I have read the One can flash kernels in recovery without S-OFF
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S-OFF is not needed for root or custom recovery. You do need an unlocked bootloader though. On other devices S-OFF was needed to flash radio's or kernels through recovery, but from what I have read the One can flash kernels in recovery without S-OFF
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So I have gotten TWRP on there, however I have been unable to flash a previous firmware, to downgrade, getting the error message, Unable to open zip. My guess is that S-On is stopping this process even in a custom recovery. Is there a recommendation as to how I can achieve S-Off?
Also There is something I have been thinking about it, and if I were to follow the steps here, with execption of the flashing the RUU through fasboot, could I flash the RUU through TWRP instead?
[Edit] Could I install a custom ROM, S-Off through the ROM, then follow the steps in the link to flash the RUU?
As in title,
is it possible to root with stock recovery?
Thank you in advance for reply.
Not possible.
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Sorry, on my phone so I can't see which forum we are in but what variant of the One do you have? I managed to root my One because revone kept failing when I tried to issue commands previously
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Revone can be used Only on hboot 1.44. I am on 1.54 but still soff with earlier hboot
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Klown80 said:
Sorry, on my phone so I can't see which forum we are in but what variant of the One do you have? I managed to root my One because revone kept failing when I tried to issue commands previously
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Use rumrunners for s-offing your phone.
taha198 said:
Revone can be used Only on hboot 1.44. I am on 1.54 but still soff with earlier hboot
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Guich said:
Use rumrunners for s-offing your phone.
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My post wasn't referring to which s-off method to use. Yes revone only works on 1.44 but you are already s-off. No need to use rum runner if already s-off.
I was replying to OP when he asked if it was possible to root with stock recovery. IT is quite possible, I have done so myself.
I had s-off hboot 1.44 I updated to 1.54 on gpe and keep s-off. If I run a RUU that's has hoot 1.56 will I retain my s-off? When I update my hoot version.
Yes, you'll stay s-off. I'm a living proof. I did update to 1.56 and I'm still s-off.
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supendal said:
Yes, you'll stay s-off. I'm a living proof. I did update to 1.56 and I'm still s-off.
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Anyone else ? Don't want to end up stuck with no way back.
canadacanada said:
Anyone else ? Don't want to end up stuck with no way back.
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I have 1.56, though via OTA, and am still S-Off.
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Anyone else ? Don't want to end up stuck with no way back.
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You will never loose S-OFF unless YOU manually go S-ON
So if I flash the custom hboot from rumrunner, and say I need to return the device to sprint, for whatever reason, do i simply reflash the ruu to return to stock? or do i have to first flash the stock hboot? Im sure this is a stupid question, but I wanna make sure.
matinm90 said:
So if I flash the custom hboot from rumrunner, and say I need to return the device to sprint, for whatever reason, do i simply reflash the ruu to return to stock? or do i have to first flash the stock hboot? Im sure this is a stupid question, but I wanna make sure.
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Yes and no. Your custom hboot and recovery will be replaced with the stock one, but your phone will still read s-off and unlocked. I suggest that you flash this hboot, you'll look completely stock, locked, s-on. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565201
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Yes and no. Your custom hboot and recovery will be replaced with the stock one, but your phone will still read s-off and unlocked. I suggest that you flash this hboot, you'll look completely stock, locked, s-on. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565201
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Oh okay thank you, thats all I needed to know
Can I flash this hboot over using a stock rooted 3.05.651.6 rom being s-off? Or is it only good for 3.04.651.2 roms. I currently have the moonshine hboot but want to upgrade to something that compatible with windows 8.1.
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Can I flash this hboot over using a stock rooted 3.05.651.6 rom being s-off? Or is it only good for 3.04.651.2 roms. I currently have the moonshine hboot but want to upgrade to something that compatible with windows 8.1.
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Yes you can. Hboot is completely indipendent from the ROM
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Yeah he's right about that. Specifically since both Rom versions from stock use the same hboot version.
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