Hey guys
I searched around and didn't seem to find the answer to my question. Its been a long time since I had an HTC(og Evo) and I think I've read too much to where I have confused myself. I have the Att version,
I've unlocked the bootloader and have S-off using the moonshine method. I am interested in updating my firmware.
As I understand it I have the moonshine custom 1.44 hboot but if I update my firmware will it not update my hboot to 1.54 which has no S-off yet?
I guess my main question is does the firmware update change my hboot and if it does will it mess with my S-off status or worse brick my phone.
I know I sound like a noob but ive been flashing for years, just a little turned around on the HTC side of things.
Thanks in advance!
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Nothing you flash here will remove s-off. Hboot is the bootloader. These firmware zips include the hboot and drivers for things like touchscreen.
gunnyman said:
Nothing you flash here will remove s-off. Hboot is the bootloader. These firmware zips include the hboot and drivers for things like touchscreen.
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Okay thanks! So if I flash the 2.24 firmware will it update my hboot to 1.54?
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capathy21 said:
Okay thanks! So if I flash the 2.24 firmware will it update my hboot to 1.54?
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Thank you!
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Hello,
I have been researching here to find a way to downgrade to a previous version of a firmware so that I can S-Off, and to no avail unsure how to do it myself using either use Moonshine or revone.
The reason I wish to do this is that I want to install Google Play edition and of course the necessary info to install it.
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EvilSpants said:
Hello,
I have been researching here to find a way to downgrade to a previous version of a firmware so that I can S-Off, and to no avail unsure how to do it myself using either use Moonshine or revone.
The reason I wish to do this is that I want to install Google Play edition and of course the necessary info to install it.
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If I'm not mistaken the ROM firmware is irrelevant as to if you can root or not, or get-S-OFF. The most important factor for S-OFF is the bootloader version. I haven't seen any threads about getting S-OFF on bootloader 1.54.
Reboot to your bootloader (turn device off, hold volume down and turn device on). Check your HBOOT version there. If it says 1.54, then the only possible solution is to search for an official HTC RUU with a lower HBOOT version. However I do not know if this will actually work.
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If I'm not mistaken the ROM firmware is irrelevant as to if you can root or not, or get-S-OFF. The most important factor for S-OFF is the bootloader version. I haven't seen any threads about getting S-OFF on bootloader 1.54.
Reboot to your bootloader (turn device off, hold volume down and turn device on). Check your HBOOT version there. If it says 1.54, then the only possible solution is to search for an official HTC RUU with a lower HBOOT version. However I do not know if this will actually work.
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Alright. Assuming that works, is there a way to reflash?
[Edit] Just checked my bootloader it says that I have 1.44. However I have tried both Revone and S-off with no success
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EvilSpants said:
Alright. Assuming that works, is there a way to reflash?
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Don't really know what you mean by reflash? Returning to the newer HBOOT (1.54)?
If that's the case, once you're S-OFF you can update the HBOOT to 1.54 and S-OFF will still be there. There are some threads in the development section about upgrading the HBOOT. I used these myself without issues.
As for the official RUU, this will probably be a Google search. I haven't seen a thread around with these files.
Keep in mind that flashing an original RUU will result in loss of root and custom recovery. You will need to re-root after flashing the RUU and reflash a custom recovery.
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Don't really know what you mean by reflash? Returning to the newer HBOOT (1.54)?
If that's the case, once you're S-OFF you can update the HBOOT to 1.54 and S-OFF will still be there. There are some threads in the development section about upgrading the HBOOT. I used these myself without issues.
As for the official RUU, this will probably be a Google search. I haven't seen a thread around with these files.
Keep in mind that flashing an original RUU will result in loss of root and custom recovery. You will need to re-root after flashing the RUU and reflash a custom recovery.
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A little bit off topic here but ..if I am s- off already and I were to use a stock ruu on my phone all that I will I loose is the recovery and root?... So after I run ruu my device will still be s-off ?
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NORCALkID said:
A little bit off topic here but ..if I am s- off already and I were to use a stock ruu on my phone all that I will I loose is the recovery and root?... So after I run ruu my device will still be s-off ?
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I think so yes, but I'm not 100% sure. You may find the answer, or ask the question in the hboot update threads or s-off threads. I haven't flashed a RUU myself in years.
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Don't really know what you mean by reflash? Returning to the newer HBOOT (1.54)?
If that's the case, once you're S-OFF you can update the HBOOT to 1.54 and S-OFF will still be there. There are some threads in the development section about upgrading the HBOOT. I used these myself without issues.
As for the official RUU, this will probably be a Google search. I haven't seen a thread around with these files.
Keep in mind that flashing an original RUU will result in loss of root and custom recovery. You will need to re-root after flashing the RUU and reflash a custom recovery.
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What I mean to say is that once I have found one with an older HBoot, how do I go about flashing that so that I can do one of the two S-Off procedures?
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EvilSpants said:
What I mean to say is that once I have found one with an older HBoot, how do I go about flashing that so that I can do one of the two S-Off procedures?
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Ah ok. The RUU should be a windows executable. Just hook up the phone to computer, start the RUU and follow the on-screen instructions.
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RadiatorRXD said:
Ah ok. The RUU should be a windows executable. Just hook up the phone to computer, start the RUU and follow the on-screen instructions.
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I assume the RUUs can be pulled from HTCdev?
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EvilSpants said:
I assume the RUUs can be pulled from HTCdev?
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Here's an article about flashing a RUU: Flash RUU
It has a link to a website which contains several RUU files to download: HERE
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If I'm not mistaken the ROM firmware is irrelevant as to if you can root or not, or get-S-OFF. The most important factor for S-OFF is the bootloader version. I haven't seen any threads about getting S-OFF on bootloader 1.54.
Reboot to your bootloader (turn device off, hold volume down and turn device on). Check your HBOOT version there. If it says 1.54, then the only possible solution is to search for an official HTC RUU with a lower HBOOT version. However I do not know if this will actually work.
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I was s-off with stock unrooted locked 2.24.401.1 firmware (ruu'ed by repair center)and tried to use revone to unlock again but it would fail, then I downgraded to hboot 1.44 (I could still do this because I was s-off already) but revone would still fail, then I decided to properly downgrade to 1.28(or was that 29).401.?? with an ruu and was able to use revone again to unlock my bootloader, so hboot is not the only factor for revone to be succesful...
downgrading hboot and other system partitions, except kernel rom radio and recovery, is not possible if you are not s-off already....
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Ah ok. The RUU should be a windows executable. Just hook up the phone to computer, start the RUU and follow the on-screen instructions.
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My downgrade attempt failed with one of the executables. I am not sure what to try next.
EvilSpants said:
My downgrade attempt failed with one of the executables. I am not sure what to try next.
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I'm at a loss here, sorry.
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RadiatorRXD said:
I'm at a loss here, sorry.
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I should note that I did not retry, however I figure that if it fails the first time, then it wouldn't succeed a second?
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EvilSpants said:
I should note that I did not retry, however I figure that if it fails the first time, then it wouldn't succeed a second?
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You could always try a second time. Maybe also post a screenshot of the failure.
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You could always try a second time. Maybe also post a screenshot of the failure.
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At this point I am looking at installing a custom recovery, though from what I am reading I may not be able to do that without S-OFF, so I am stuck if this is true.
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EvilSpants said:
At this point I am looking at installing a custom recovery, though from what I am reading I may not be able to do that without S-OFF, so I am stuck if this is true.
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S-OFF is not needed for root or custom recovery. You do need an unlocked bootloader though. On other devices S-OFF was needed to flash radio's or kernels through recovery, but from what I have read the One can flash kernels in recovery without S-OFF
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RadiatorRXD said:
S-OFF is not needed for root or custom recovery. You do need an unlocked bootloader though. On other devices S-OFF was needed to flash radio's or kernels through recovery, but from what I have read the One can flash kernels in recovery without S-OFF
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So I have gotten TWRP on there, however I have been unable to flash a previous firmware, to downgrade, getting the error message, Unable to open zip. My guess is that S-On is stopping this process even in a custom recovery. Is there a recommendation as to how I can achieve S-Off?
Also There is something I have been thinking about it, and if I were to follow the steps here, with execption of the flashing the RUU through fasboot, could I flash the RUU through TWRP instead?
[Edit] Could I install a custom ROM, S-Off through the ROM, then follow the steps in the link to flash the RUU?
ok i jumped the gun.. i was rocking tranquil rom.. with wolfpack kernel and i loved it!!.. im s-off so i flashed the new radio and flashed the new firmware zip for s-0ff people.. so im one the new base and running stock rooted 4.3 rom.. what do i have to do to go back to the 1.31 base and 4.1.2 android.. i hate running stock rooted roms and stock kernels.. i jumped the gun.. should have just waited it out.. if there a way i can get back please let me kno.. really want to be back on tranquil rom bad! thanks
Since you are s off just run RUU. If you are s off no need to rock border before running it either do you are golden
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EPayne123 said:
Since you are s off just run RUU. If you are s off no need to rock border before running it either do you are golden
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what do i ahve to do to run the ruu?? relock my bootloader then just run it?? the only ruu thats out is 1.29 rite.. it wont mess my phone up going from this new base to 1.29? theres no 1.31 file i can flash for s-off people like the new one i just flashed? what did u mean by no need to rock border??
I meant if you are S-Off no need to relock bootloader to run RUU. If you are going back to bone stock to take all OTAs and then root using 3.04 then you will need to relock bootloader but if you are just going to stock to take OTAs and not bother rooting 4.3 then might as well lock bootloader but keep S-Off in case one day.
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EPayne123 said:
I meant if you are S-Off no need to relock bootloader to run RUU. If you are going back to bone stock to take all OTAs and then root using 3.04 then you will need to relock bootloader but if you are just going to stock to take OTAs and not bother rooting 4.3 then might as well lock bootloader but keep S-Off in case one day.
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lol.. im lost already.. all i want to do is go back to 1.31 so i can flash tranquil rom and wolfpack kernel again,... i want to stay s-off.. so the only way i can go back to 1.31 is if i relock my bootloader.. and run 1.29 RUU.. then take 1.31 OTA..??
Just nandroid, or just flash the Rom you want and the kernel. I would also back your data up to your computer as you will have that 0 folder.
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Sorry, misunderstood what your goal was. I apologize.
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I have already re-locked and flashed the 3.0.5 RUU and everything is completely stock except the bootloader reading S-Off and Relocked.
I'm looking to reset the bootloader to read S-On and Locked just as it would be right out of the box.
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treetolber said:
I have already re-locked and flashed the 3.0.5 RUU and everything is completely stock except the bootloader reading S-Off and Relocked.
I'm looking to reset the bootloader to read S-On and Locked just as it would be right out of the box.
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Hmmm. I don't suggest getting s-on, it's pretty risky. You better flash this hexedited hboot http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314921
It basically masks the s-off as s-on. No one will ever notice it, it's basically risk-free and you remain s-off
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elvisypi said:
Hmmm. I don't suggest getting s-on, it's pretty risky. You better flash this hexedited hboot http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314921
It basically masks the s-off as s-on. No one will ever notice it, it's basically risk-free and you remain s-off
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This needs to be done while I still have root access right? Because I have already relocked and ran the latest 3.0.5 RUU.
I'd rather not unlock and root again if I don't have too.
treetolber said:
This needs to be done while I still have root access right? Because I have already relocked and ran the latest 3.0.5 RUU.
I'd rather not unlock and root again if I don't have too.
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No need for root it's flashed from RUU mode
I would advise using RootLinix hboot instead it will read hboot 1.55
BD619 said:
No need for root it's flashed from RUU mode
I would advise using RootLinix hboot instead it will read hboot 1.55
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I'm not familiar with that. Do you know of a link?
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I'm not familiar with that. Do you know of a link?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565201
Just follow the instructions in the thread
As title,
Is it possible to flash a stock 4.2.2 rom on this hboot?
Wanting to downgrade my hboot but do not want to have a soft brick afterwards, so I want to have a ROM and recovery on there already compatible with the downgraded hboot.
Thanks
Jikstah said:
As title,
Is it possible to flash a stock 4.2.2 rom on this hboot?
Wanting to downgrade my hboot but do not want to have a soft brick afterwards, so I want to have a ROM and recovery on there already compatible with the downgraded hboot.
Thanks
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If your s-off you can RUU back to any hboot and any android version
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If your s-off you can RUU back to any hboot and any android version
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I don't have an RUU for my carrier, not available. :|
Then you need to look for a HTC guru reset
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nateboi81 said:
Then you need to look for a HTC guru reset
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Got one, I'm just scared of bricking my device again as I tried flashing firmware from 3.xx to 5.xx and ended up bricking it.
Will this happen on the way down too?
Is it as simple as flashing firmware.zip, then a custom recovery and then a custom rom or guru reset?