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I just wanted to say that the Amazon App Store is a really nice alternative to the Android Market. With honeycomb finally get to see new apps. Angry Birds Rio is really nice, and nows its free today for the ad free version.
sal_shawn said:
I just wanted to say that the Amazon App Store is a really nice alternative to the Android Market. With honeycomb finally get to see new apps. Angry Birds Rio is really nice, and nows its free today for the ad free version.
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Can someone explain to me the logic in having another place to get apps outside of the Google Market that benefits consumers? So I get Angry Birds Rio because it is exclusive however, if I remove the Amazon market app it stops working. Why? And all the other apps I checked are already available in the Google Market. So why do I need to use the Amazon Appstore other than exclusive content which in my opinion if fragmenting the available apps?
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Can someone explain to me the logic in having another place to get apps outside of the Google Market that benefits consumers? So I get Angry Birds Rio because it is exclusive however, if I remove the Amazon market app it stops working. Why? And all the other apps I checked are already available in the Google Market. So why do I need to use the Amazon Appstore other than exclusive content which in my opinion if fragmenting the available apps?
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Different features in the actual marketplace; different payment processor (Amazon, which I use extensively, has all my payment information but I do not use Google Checkout); different prices and yes, a different selection. Amazon and other app stores can offer additional features to developers like the DRM you are complaining about which will lead to fragmentation that may or may not be a good thing (time will tell). Who knows, maybe there will be a prime-esque subscription service at some point. Best Buy may sell the same games as Gamestop, but I'm glad I have the choice to never shop at the latter.
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Different features in the actual marketplace; different payment processor (Amazon, which I use extensively, has all my payment information but I do not use Google Checkout); different prices and yes, a different selection. Amazon and other app stores can offer additional features to developers like the DRM you are complaining about which will lead to fragmentation that may or may not be a good thing (time will tell). Who knows, maybe there will be a prime-esque subscription service at some point. Best Buy may sell the same games as Gamestop, but I'm glad I have the choice to never shop at the latter.
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I am all about choice but having multiple places to search is not a positive feature in my opinion. Will we have 10 other app stores pop up next week? Not very appealing in my opinion.
keitht said:
Can someone explain to me the logic in having another place to get apps outside of the Google Market that benefits consumers? So I get Angry Birds Rio because it is exclusive however, if I remove the Amazon market app it stops working. Why? And all the other apps I checked are already available in the Google Market. So why do I need to use the Amazon Appstore other than exclusive content which in my opinion if fragmenting the available apps?
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Well I just like the ability to see all the new released apps. In Google's market for the Xoom all you can see is the featured and top apps.
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I am all about choice but having multiple places to search is not a positive feature in my opinion. Will we have 10 other app stores pop up next week? Not very appealing in my opinion.
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I can see you concern but I do not see how that is any different from other shopping experiences. I prefer Amazon's search/sorting capabilities from my brief look earlier. I'm sure eventually there will be apps to search any and all available app stores.
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Well I just like the ability to see all the new released apps. In Google's market for the Xoom all you can see is the featured and top apps.
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That is an issue that Google can resolve. You get 10 other companies providing an app store, how is that helping? You then have to do the same search 10 times.
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That is an issue that Google can resolve. You get 10 other companies providing an app store, how is that helping? You then have to do the same search 10 times.
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I see your point. I agree I would prefer one place to get my apps. But right now when I just go browsing for apps amazon is alot easier.
This has to be one of the biggest blunders I have ever seen with Android yet. Most of the Amazon market is filled with apps that are already available in the Google Market. The only app I have seen so far that is not available is Angry Birds Rio. And if you do not install or have removed the Amazon appstore app, you cannot even run it. Does that sound like the same issue with DRM protected music?
And what allows Amazon to create their own app store? Is it easy for 20, 30, 100 others to start their own store with mostly the same apps with their own rules? This does not look good. Who wants to search 100 stores for apps to find what they are looking for and on top of that, have different rules. This has to be the most retarded thing I have ever seen since owning an Android device and is doomed for failure.
If you don't like it, don't use it. Let market forces determine things. If 10 app stores popped out tomorrow I guarantee most would not succeed. As it is there are several alternative app stores for android already, and they have not caused any problems. Competition is ALLWAYS a good thing, even for our beloved google. Same reason I am happy that apple is constantly pushing on android and vice-versa. Competition is the underlying rationale for using Android for me.
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This has to be one of the biggest blunders I have ever seen with Android yet. Most of the Amazon market is filled with apps that are already available in the Google Market. The only app I have seen so far that is not available is Angry Birds Rio. And if you do not install or have removed the Amazon appstore app, you cannot even run it. Does that sound like the same issue with DRM protected music?
And what allows Amazon to create their own app store? Is it easy for 20, 30, 100 others to start their own store with mostly the same apps with their own rules? This does not look good. Who wants to search 100 stores for apps to find what they are looking for and on top of that, have different rules. This has to be the most retarded thing I have ever seen since owning an Android device and is doomed for failure.
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So on your PC, you would rather have one single source for all your software? You don't comparison shop, buy from different vendors, directly from developers? The app concept and having it all in one place is a convenience, thats it. Its like saying you should not open up a Target because your town already has a Wall-Mart or something...
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So on your PC, you would rather have one single source for all your software? You don't comparison shop, buy from different vendors, directly from developers? The app concept and having it all in one place is a convenience, thats it. Its like saying you should not open up a Target because your town already has a Wall-Mart or something...
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This is not my PC. You go to Amazon store and you see the same apps available in the Google Market. You think the average consumer wants to search multiple markets for an app? I know I don't. And the same app works from Google market and not from another app store because their appstore app is not installed? You think this is a good user experience? I don't. Do not compare to PC experience because the Android tablet experience is based on competition from Apple iPad not from a PC experience. This will be a disaster in a year from now where iPad users can search one location for all their app needs and Android tablet users will need to search 100+ for theirs. There is no reason why these apps cannot be in one location.
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There is no reason why these apps cannot be in one location.
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But there is a reason... different terms and features for developers.
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But there is a reason... different terms and features for developers.
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And what specifically are those?
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This is not my PC. You go to Amazon store and you see the same apps available in the Google Market. You think the average consumer wants to search multiple markets for an app? I know I don't. And the same app works from Google market and not from another app store because their appstore app is not installed? You think this is a good user experience? I don't. Do not compare to PC experience because the Android tablet experience is based on competition from Apple iPad not from a PC experience. This will be a disaster in a year from now where iPad users can search one location for all their app needs and Android tablet users will need to search 100+ for theirs. There is no reason why these apps cannot be in one location.
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haha i don't want to get a back and forth going here, but really, just don't use the amazon app store and all will be ok. not to overblow the analogy, but two supermarkets usually carry 99% of the same things, doesn't mean you should get rid of one or preclude new ones from opening up.
i realize that apple people have their walled garden with their false sense of security and limited options, but take music purchases as an example: i can either say, buy all my music from iTunes like most Apple people do, or i can do what i do, which is source it from eMusic, Amazon MP3, directly from the artists, etc, all of which i am able to do from both my galaxy s or my xoom, and all of which i am able to do for less money than if i just bought everything from iTunes. oh and since the artists usually get a better deal if i avoid the iTunes store i know more of my money is going directly to them. same thing applies to app stores. its not really all that complicated, i mean, how lazy have we gotten if we can't be bothered to look for things on more than one app store?
as far as the drm deal where apps won't work without amazon appstore, i am not crazy about it, and if that is the case, i would definitely think twice before buying anything from them. maybe some content providers will insist on using amazon's system, but if the terms are that restrictive i'll just take my money elsewhere.
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haha i don't want to get a back and forth going here, but really, just don't use the amazon app store and all will be ok. not to overblow the analogy, but two supermarkets usually carry 99% of the same things, doesn't mean you should get rid of one or preclude new ones from opening up.
i realize that apple people have their walled garden with their false sense of security and limited options, but take music purchases as an example: i can either say, buy all my music from iTunes like most Apple people do, or i can do what i do, which is source it from eMusic, Amazon MP3, directly from the artists, etc, all of which i am able to do from both my galaxy s or my xoom, and all of which i am able to do for less money than if i just bought everything from iTunes. oh and since the artists usually get a better deal if i avoid the iTunes store i know more of my money is going directly to them. same thing applies to app stores. its not really all that complicated, i mean, how lazy have we gotten if we can't be bothered to look for things on more than one app store?
as far as the drm deal where apps won't work without amazon appstore, i am not crazy about it, and if that is the case, i would definitely think twice before buying anything from them. maybe some content providers will insist on using amazon's system, but if the terms are that restrictive i'll just take my money elsewhere.
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Listen, I do not want back and forth either. I want to understand the reasoning behind having another place to get apps. If there is a restriction or process that does not work posting the same app to the Google market, what is it? Why is another market or appstore needed other than money to Amazon? I don't get it.
Why would developers choose to use the Amazon store over the Google Market? Can someone answer that please with specifics? Is this a takeover of the Google market?
keitht said:
Why would developers choose to use the Amazon store over the Google Market? Can someone answer that please with specifics?
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The only reason i could think of would be different methods of payment. What forms of payments do they both use? Actually another reason could be the amazon one may also allow "banned" software, as the market is run by google.
keitht said:
Why would developers choose to use the Amazon store over the Google Market? Can someone answer that please with specifics? Is this a takeover of the Google market?
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Right now? I do not know as I am not familiar with the policies of them both. However, as we have seen with the Apple App Store there have been many rules which have upset developers over time. Some of those are directly tied to how much money a developer can make off their app. For example, if Google were to mandate something similar to Apple's new subscription model I imagine many developers would like an alternative.
From a user perspective, having competing promotions like Amazon's free paid-app every day is nice
I agree that it can be a hassle to look for things in different stores but it is for the best. Its the universal rule of conservation if you will. The Amazon Appstore with bring competition to Google forcing google to step up its game if does not want to loose customers. For example Amazon will have a free paid app per day, maybe that will move google to do the same or top that. Amazon will test each app first to make sure it is not malicious and even though it will never be perfect maybe that will move google to do something similar. Amazon has worked out deals with developers in regards to the checkout process which may lead some developers that before only sold their apps from their own website to put them in the appstore (Gameloft). Also this has led some developers to drop their prices at the Amazon Appstore.
I understand not everyone thinks this is for the best or that its too much of a hassle but when you think of things from a perspective of growth and innovation it seems to be good.
In regards to the DRM content it is one of those things that are just tough to deal with sure we can try to avoid everything that has DRM but that is why Netflix and Hulu have not been supported thus far.
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So, I noticed when I go to the ALL part of the Play store, it shows pretty much every single app I have EVER downloaded. Is there a way to permanently remove apps you really don't want in that list anymore?
Per Google Play Store:
http://support.google.com/googleplay/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=2677163#/answer/2677163
janedoesmith said:
Per Google Play Store:
http://support.google.com/googleplay/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=2677163#/answer/2677163
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Thanks. Not the answer I was hoping for. LOL
Hi,
I was wondering if it worth to be included in Samsung apps and Amazon store. Do any of you have experience with them?
I've read that Amazon paid installs are higher than Google Play, but they've a higher (and annual) fee.
IvanMunson said:
Hi,
I was wondering if it worth to be included in Samsung apps and Amazon store. Do any of you have experience with them?
I've read that Amazon paid installs are higher than Google Play, but they've a higher (and annual) fee.
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I found Amazon pretty good. I sell there about 33% of what I sell in Google play.
They reduce 30% tax for developer out of the USA, so that's a bummer.
Well...
Started with the Amazon store a month a go. A few sales now and then but I really expected higher sales. I read that people tend to spend more money on the Amazon store than with Google Play but could not really see this myself until now.
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I didn't have a good experience at all. Making even the smallest change in the developer console takes week(s) to reflect on the app's page. And my app sales there were almost non-existent. Closed my account.
bagarwa said:
I didn't have a good experience at all. Making even the smallest change in the developer console takes week(s) to reflect on the app's page. And my app sales there were almost non-existent. Closed my account.
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This is where your marketing comes in. Amazon does well, but it ISN'T play, so you will have to kind of bring your customers there. You already closed your account, so there's no point in talking about it, but did you have YouTube trailers, did you have App Review sites mention where your app is? Did you do Social Media marketing through low cost sites like Fiverr?
These are the routes you're going to have to take if you push apps outside of the main app stores.
Hi,
In case someone is thinking about selling apps on Samsung Apps, here is a little warning...
In other app stores, developers can expect to get 70% of the sales, but on Samsung you barely get 30% of the sales.
There are huge fees, different in every country (sometimes > 90% in some countries) and you are paid more than 6 months after the sales...
OK you may get some interesting sales if you have the chance to get your app promoted, but be warned, most of the cash will go to Samsung agents and commissionaires...
P a t r i c k said:
Hi,
In case someone is thinking about selling apps on Samsung Apps, here is a little warning...
In other app stores, developers can expect to get 70% of the sales, but on Samsung you barely get 30% of the sales.
There are huge fees, different in every country (sometimes > 90% in some countries) and you are paid more than 6 months after the sales...
OK you may get some interesting sales if you have the chance to get your app promoted, but be warned, most of the cash will go to Samsung agents and commissionaires...
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I finally went to Samsung with my free apps. It requires a commercial verified account in order to sell apps. My experience with Samsung is a terrible portal and very long time waiting for updating the apps.
I've got quite different feeling about Samsung Apps (but my app is free...) - in fact it seems that right now SA makes 4/5 times more downloads than Google Play...
IvanMunson said:
Hi,
I was wondering if it worth to be included in Samsung apps and Amazon store. Do any of you have experience with them?
I've read that Amazon paid installs are higher than Google Play, but they've a higher (and annual) fee.
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Yes, it worth it, even if the results are now low by far from G Play, But there is less competition and these two markets are like android market 4 years ago. They are growing fast, so if you get your apps on the top there you can expect the same success made by some famous apps on Play Store
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After todays paypal payment problem.. i will never use any payment system! ''except play store''... :]
+Google app store [Easy to use, easy to pay, make refunds, payment check, many apps,propely best paid free app store.]
+Samsung app store [First of all many updates, give some other app when updated samsung app ''like 2 sam stores...'' raly lack of games, best stupid kid place to buy stupid old games. :0]
+Amazon app store [Never used.. but i thing its abit like 'play store' but less apps, some disscounds, easy to find app, many tags.]
...Just use Play store, and mob.org or apkmani ^^ (tegra3 ru are great place for tegra users)
How to get featured on Amazon store
Hey guys, I'm pretty new at this. How do you get your app on the Amazon store?
rden.april said:
Hey guys, I'm pretty new at this. How do you get your app on the Amazon store?
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Just sign in here http://developer.amazon.com/home.html it's free
Just found this http://www.1mobile.com
Anyone with any experience from it?
I cant find any info about commission and stuff, but it seems to be a pretty large site?
Or, other better alternatives to Google Play?
Alternate Stores
Like with any store the results are mixed based on a number of factors. I like Opera, Mobango, Mobiles24, Amazon, Aptoide, AndroidPit and Yandex but it all depends on the quality of your app and Google Play will still likely drive the majority of your downloads.
google play store is must the primary one, others are all alternative to end users.
I'd still stick to Google Play. I've been using it for a long time now aside from Apps Store.
appfactory said:
Just found this 1mobile.com
Anyone with any experience from it?
I cant find any info about commission and stuff, but it seems to be a pretty large site?
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Well, I was checking 1mobile myself, as I have read elsewhere that it was a big alternative app store.
However, I have seen that its "High-Speed Download" button serves a modified apk, with a lot of additional resources and classes. That seems fishy at the very least.
Does anyone know what 1mobile modifies the apk for? I wouldn't like my app to be associated with adware and bad practices, users to be stolen private data, or additional ads shown within the app.
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Hi I know 1 mobile's stuff, do you need it? Upload your app here is not bad choice.
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Hi I know 1 mobile's stuff, do you need it? Upload your app here is not bad choice.
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Hi Maggie, I am wondering what are those 3MB or so that 1mobile attaches to my app's apk when the user clicks on "high-speed download".
1Mobile App Store is completely dead. I think you have to go with the Google Play alternative Android stores and even you can go with some mod app stores.
May be this list will help you in choosing that: https://apkfolks.com/app-stores/
I did the nuke-it-and-make-it-usable upgrade. This is my first, so please forgive me if I don't use the correct terminology. I used FlashFire and uploaded SlimRom, SuperSu, and mini-gapps. It seems most of the apps I try to install says its not compatible with my device. Some apps I know are supposed to be there, don't show up in a search. Also, it kinda leans like it's a phone instead of a tablet. This may be normal, not sure there. Someone smarter than me, feel free to chime in. Am I doing something wrong, or did I miss a step? I used the tool from RootJunky. They gave this forum a lot of props and said you guys are the go-to peeps. I believe I got my files from the mirrors here. Amazon Fire 7", 5.1.1, Thanks in advance...
You pretty much would have to install the APK for each app that you cannot download from the Google Play store, part of the reasoning behind this is because Amazon Fire isn't officially supported by the Google Play Store, thus some apps will be unistallable via the app store.
You can download the APKs here: https://apkpure.com/app?hl=en
All the APKs should work. Just one thing to note would be that in the future, you'd have to reinstall the APK whenever a new update arrives for your app.
Best of luck!
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You pretty much would have to install the APK for each app that you cannot download from the Google Play store, part of the reasoning behind this is because Amazon Fire isn't officially supported by the Google Play Store, thus some apps will be unistallable via the app store.
You can download the APKs here:
All the APKs should work. Just one thing to note would be that in the future, you'd have to reinstall the APK whenever a new update arrives for your app.
Best of luck!
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So, in the background its still an Amazon Fire? I guess I just assumed by doing the new ROM, it would get rid of everything Amazon. That's what I get for assuming :laugh:. Thanks!!
Great question and thanks for the answer. This may not be related to the "505 error" but I noticed with apps like "Open Camera" that it says the device is not compatible, and now I know why!
darkgiant said:
You pretty much would have to install the APK for each app that you cannot download from the Google Play store, part of the reasoning behind this is because Amazon Fire isn't officially supported by the Google Play Store, thus some apps will be unistallable via the app store.
You can download the APKs here:
All the APKs should work. Just one thing to note would be that in the future, you'd have to reinstall the APK whenever a new update arrives for your app.
Best of luck!
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I have since used apkpure and so far all the apps I have searched for has installed and worked pretty much like their supposed to. Thanks again!
Yeah, I had the same problem, particularly with "Google Play." Sadly, my local news channel app is not available there, but a lot of other apps I was having problems with were.