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I was looking at two phones as my choices for my next phone. The S4 is my other choice and that one hasn't been revealed yet. Should I get this phone regardless of the S4 or should I look at the S4 to prevent buyer's remorse?
nviz22 said:
I was looking at two phones as my choices for my next phone. The S4 is my other choice and that one hasn't been revealed yet. Should I get this phone regardless of the S4 or should I look at the S4 to prevent buyer's remorse?
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Honestly - I say wait.
Either way, we will know about the GS4 before the launch of the HTC One if I'm not mistaken.
As above, if you're not too sure, you're better off waiting for the s4 so you can test both out.
Also, please post any questions in Q&A from now on.
Depends. If you're like me who liked the HTC One on a design perspective then get it now. If you look on specs or features then better wait and decide.
I can make things Simplify its almost confirm that s4 will use 4.9 or 5" screen but dafinately never yet able to made phone using complete metal unibody Samsung is about 85% plastic, afaic I never pay premium price for plastic from now as off coz HTC increase the bar in terms of premium design I don't care at all if it look more or less similar that endless comparison will never end for me how I feel personally to it is more important
Another thing S4 will never have ultra pixel or similar innovation so quick as for now like on HTC one and duel speaker and irda remote and Zoe and complete unibody will surely differentiate HTC ONE from other
For me higher GHz, more mega pixel better benchmark larger screen, card slot or any type software which feature which can be easy to port across android devices and these things can't make phone better so even thought s4 equipped everything but not htc one's premium distinct feature like irda, metal body exact size, qulity cam, ois Zoe, duel and loudest sound
I see Z and One and withing 3 min I finalize on One coz Z got poor viewing angle slow interface, too big and can't take advantage of full 5 inch coz on screen is tricky to appear and dissolved some time and taking space
I suggest don't expect too high but suggest you 'ONE'
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onlinejobwork said:
I can make things Simplify its almost confirm that s4 will use 4.9 or 5" screen but dafinately never yet able to made phone using complete metal unibody Samsung is about 85% plastic, afaic I never pay premium price for plastic from now as off coz HTC increase the bar in terms of premium design I don't care at all if it look more or less similar that endless comparison will never end for me how I feel personally to it is more important
Another thing S4 will never have ultra pixel or similar innovation so quick as for now like on HTC one and duel speaker and irda remote and Zoe and complete unibody will surely differentiate HTC ONE from other
For me higher GHz, more mega pixel better benchmark larger screen, card slot or any type software which feature which can be easy to port across android devices and these things can't make phone better so even thought s4 equipped everything but not htc one's premium distinct feature like irda, metal body exact size, qulity cam, ois Zoe, duel and loudest sound
I see Z and One and withing 3 min I finalize on One coz Z got poor viewing angle slow interface, too big and can't take advantage of full 5 inch coz on screen is tricky to appear and dissolved some time and taking space
I suggest don't expect too high but suggest you 'ONE'
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1. Yes you're right. But samsung will be adding little aluminum on the sides of galaxy s4.
2. Samsung will indeed never have ultrapixel as that is copyrighted by HTC. Plus on my own preferences I would still prefer megapixels over this unless they balance this out. And also! Samsung was the first with the IR Remote so don't say that HTC was first. Even Xperia Z/ZL introduced them earlier than HTC.
3. Just to be fair enough with samsung. Samsung will have irda, S-Pen, multi window.
4. Z does not have poor viewing angles. It's pretty obvious you never seen it personally I could say it's only average but no not poor. And yeah the UI is not slow I didn't encounter any UI hiccups even just once when I was testing it.
And seriously? Too big? Mind you the Xperia Z is only less than 2millimeter bigger than HTC One. That's almost like as thick as the cloth/textile on your shirt.
I am not trying to go against you but I don't really like biased comments.
The Droid DNA does very well in reviews and benchmarks. Check out the YouTube videos about its reviews and benchmarks.
I have a Note 2 and it is also a good phone if you like to watch movies/shows on the go.
Hello there i am going on a holiday and i am thinking to trade my htc one for a galaxy s4?
This because of the great daylight pictures of the s4..
Is this a wise decision?
Because for the rest i love the htc one...
I can always trade it back after my holiday...
Dude. Don't be insecure about your own decisions.
~ Taylor_Swift
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john291 said:
Hello there i am going on a holiday and i am thinking to trade my htc one for a galaxy s4?
This because of the great daylight pictures of the s4..
Is this a wise decision?
Because for the rest i love the htc one...
I can always trade it back after my holiday...
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Get a compact camera / DSLR if you want great daylight photos.
It is an extra piece to carry, but its worth it. I´d never go on vacation without my (or my parents) dslr if i know there will be some beatiful places
shox22 said:
Get a compact camera / DSLR if you want great daylight photos.
It is an extra piece to carry, but its worth it. I´d never go on vacation without my (or my parents) dslr if i know there will be some beatiful places
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Hello there
Yes i am thinking about that option still too..
But i like to carry not to much...
Or maybe its an option to show what the htc one can do...
But the daylight pics of the samsung are good.
Decisions
Compact camera is the way
I somewhat compared my friend s4 and my One, in full daylight scene
I can absolute say that the real touch to focus of One is clearly superior than s4 fake touch to focus ( like all samsung i owned,they focus in the touched point,but only aprox)
Also the suoeramoled screen can mask somehow your eyes and photos seems brighter and more vivid.. But on pc.. The one capture more color due to more light
Maybe you also have to adjust a bit exposure, or use hdr to make good photos
So apart for maybe little better detailed photos, the change is not a good idea
Things changes if you think to crop or print them in very big papers..
Return back to One after holidays? Lol no..
Get a good camera instead and use it for years and years..
erto90 said:
Compact camera is the way
I somewhat compared my friend s4 and my One, in full daylight scene
I can absolute say that the real touch to focus of One is clearly superior than s4 fake touch to focus ( like all samsung i owned,they focus in the touched point,but only aprox)
Also the suoeramoled screen can mask somehow your eyes and photos seems brighter and more vivid.. But on pc.. The one capture more color due to more light
Maybe you also have to adjust a bit exposure, or use hdr to make good photos
So apart for maybe little better detailed photos, the change is not a good idea
Things changes if you think to crop or print them in very big papers..
Return back to One after holidays? Lol no..
Get a good camera instead and use it for years and years..
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Thx man...
I am gonne think about what you said......:good:
theres no better camera than your eyes mind and memories. stick with your htc
john291 said:
Thx man...
I am gonne think about what you said......:good:
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And dont forget that can acquire like 300% more light, making low loght picture really better.. Who said very sunny day?
My think is
High sunlight, s4 can be better for details( but just a little) but also one can make awesome photos, for sure they are ok for record a nice moment
The rest is a favor of One, low light conditions, better video, awesome audio and zoe
Hope i clarified something not driving your decision in a bad road
If you can really trade back, then why not? The S4 will give you better pictures. If buying a standalone camera is not an option, and you can return to the better phone (the One), then why wouldn't you use what would give you the best picture?
It's a straight forward answer, considering the S4 has a better camera, why ask for people's opinion?
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Id definitely buy a proper camera for your holiday and the One for maybe some nights out.
john291 said:
Hello there i am going on a holiday and i am thinking to trade my htc one for a galaxy s4?
This because of the great daylight pictures of the s4..
Is this a wise decision?
Because for the rest i love the htc one...
I can always trade it back after my holiday...
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Pick which one you want. They are both great phones. Don't base your opinion on others, seriously. No one here has "the answer" and no one here can tell you which one is right for you. You will get mostly people here that say One, and mostly people in the S4 section would say S4. Niether is a bad choice, that is for sure.
I tried both and the decision was the One hands down. My one formed a huge group of dead pixels and I had to exchange it last night, I spent some more time with the S4 while I was there and it solidified my decision in the One.
As far as pictures go, it is negligible at best. Lets be honest, they BOTH SUCK! . They are great ONLY in the mobile camera department, but the cheapest of point and shoot camera's would wipe the floor with both of them. Both of them have pro's and con's compared to each other in taking pictures and there will be some times 1 will take a better picture and other times the other will. That is about it.
And think about the maximum brightness of the s4 display in the sun.
You wont be happy with it, thats sure.
Why does another one of these topics have to be made? There is plenty of threads and even articles on the matter. Even photos up against each other.
Buy an used S4 on ebay or swappa in good condition and with all accesories and original box try both phones for a while and then sell back that smartphone you decided won't to keep, at the end you'll probably won't spend as much money as buying a compact camera.
if i want to take better pics i would buy an actual camera
I am in the market for a new phone. I use an old Samsung S3 now. The Z3Compact seems perfect, but my only concern is the camera. I use my phone as my main camera, but general consensus seems to be that it is not as good as the camera on the S5 of iPhone6. I like to shoot directly in HDR mode, but that seems to be a problem on the Z3. Without rooting, could I install the Google Camera apk and if so, would the Z3C be able to use the HDR mode from the Google Camera app?
Or should I change my plans and go for the S5?
The Google camera app on the Play Store installs fine. I'll post some comparison shots later this morning.
My sister has an S3 and we were taking comparison photos in her kitchen yesterday - obviously the z3c is a significant step up in quality from the S3, though I realize that's not really your question.
Thanks! And it is no problem to use the HDR setting in the Google Camera app? On my Nexus 7 the HDR is greyed-out in the Google Camera App, it will nog show up on every device i read in the Google Q&A
Google camera app permits HDR on the z3c.
Sony camera app also has HDR toggle in manual mode, but is grayed out if resolution is set higher than 8mp.
I know of several reviews claiming that Sony's Superior Auto mode isn't HDR, but since that mode captures at 8mp I'm wondering if it doesn't use it's internal HDR algorithm in auto mode, despite what I've seen the reviewers claim. I can't really tell the difference between Superior Auto and Manual 8mp HDR photos taken with the Sony camera app.
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Ok, here are some comparison pictures of the Z3C's camera, using both the Sony Camera App, and the Google Camera App from the Play store.
I have uploaded the pictures to an imgur album, and added descriptions for the six photos. Just for clarity's sake, I should mention I am not really into photography that much, and my skills are probably not up to par for composing or technique, so take that into account.
There are six pictures (they're labeled appropriately in the album, but I'm reproducing them here so people can decide if they're interested before viewing them, since the images are large):
1) Sony App, Superior Auto setting (8mp), No Flash
2) Sony App, Superior Auto setting (8mp), Flash
3) Sony App, Manual Setting at 20mp, No Flash
4) Sony App, Manual Setting at 20mp, Flash
5) Google App, HDR setting at 20mp, No Flash
6) Google App, HDR setting at 20mp, Flash
Here is the link to the imgur album:
http://imgur.com/a/KjL4D#0
Hope this is helpful.
I just did a quick Google cam vs stock cam test myself. The stock cam in auto mode definitely takes pics that are a little on the cold side. In manual mode though, it was more accurate. The google cam seemed more or less the same. I'm sticking with the stock Sony cam.
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I am in the market for a new phone. I use an old Samsung S3 now. The Z3Compact seems perfect, but my only concern is the camera. I use my phone as my main camera, but general consensus seems to be that it is not as good as the camera on the S5 of iPhone6. I like to shoot directly in HDR mode, but that seems to be a problem on the Z3. Without rooting, could I install the Google Camera apk and if so, would the Z3C be able to use the HDR mode from the Google Camera app?
Or should I change my plans and go for the S5?
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People shouldn't act as if the camera is bad, it's not bad at all. Just in some situations it under performs against iOS and the S5 for example, but in other situations it' better.
Check out the topic I made for people with doubts, you can see samples there:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/themes-apps/post-pictures-xperia-z3-compact-t2889119
Thank you. Not quite made up my mind yet. I read a lot of horrorstories on broken glass... maybe the S5 proves out to be a more secure option. Good camera, waterresistant and plastic - which in my S1 and S3 has survived a lot of drops.
I think it comes down to how important the form factor and potential battery life advantages are over other stuff.
There are choices with slightly better cameras and certainly ones less vulnerable to accidental damage.
For me, coming off Nexus 5 and Note 3, I am really prioritizing battery longevity, pocket friendliness and better one-handed comfort and use. So far I'm pleased but it's still early days so the jury's still out for me.
Be sure you can live with TouchWiz and other Samsung bloat (bugs with erroneous Knox warnings on the AT&T Note 3 model nearly drove me crazy). It really ruined my Note 3 experience for me and is what drove me to the Nexus 5, which in turn was somewhat spoiled by awful battery life despite rooting and aggressively optimizing (to the point of limiting usefulness) power consumption. Never got more than 8-10 realistic hours on the 5 no matter what I tried.
Form factor is great. As is battery life. That's one side. Other side is the camera, and how it stands up to a drop from the pocket. That last bit worries me.
Well I haven't had the Sony long enough to try and convince you the advantages outweigh the drawbacks - I may drop mine and destroy it this afternoon!
But I'm not sure any unprotected high end smartphone stands all that good a chance of surviving any particular dropping incident, and adding a protective case to a smaller device still nets you a slightly larger small device that is still a a lot smaller profile than a bigger device with a protective case. Just my. 02 worth.
It's not only dropping, but also spontanious cracks when carrying the Z3C in te front pocket. of your jeans. Been reading a lot of reports on that the last days.
Most of those reports are duplicates. Only a few confirmed cases.
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As far as I'm concerned, every other phone has more so-called "dealbreakers" than the Z3C. This phone has so many plusses that outweigh any possible negatives that people need to imagine faults and come up with ridiculous issues not to get it, and that's their loss.
In this German test of the Z3C the back panel cracked spontaniously:
http://www.areamobile.de/handys/4275-sony-xperia-z3-compact/testbericht
Sony states it was an isolated incident. Yeah...
DrPanz said:
I am in the market for a new phone. I use an old Samsung S3 now. The Z3Compact seems perfect, but my only concern is the camera. I use my phone as my main camera, but general consensus seems to be that it is not as good as the camera on the S5 of iPhone6. I like to shoot directly in HDR mode, but that seems to be a problem on the Z3. Without rooting, could I install the Google Camera apk and if so, would the Z3C be able to use the HDR mode from the Google Camera app?
Or should I change my plans and go for the S5?
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If you like to take nature photos, and if you are planning to watch the photos on something larger than the phone display, the Z3/compact is a bad choice. In this post is a comparison with the galaxy note 3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55980596&postcount=127
Now, this is viewing the pixels 1:1, which probably most people won't bother with. But even when scaling down this particular photo to about 2MP, the compression artifacts can still be noticed, and the GN3 photo is the better one! And it definitely proves that in certain cases, like photos with much detail, there are much better cameras out there.
But in other cases the Z3 camera produces beautiful images (if you don't look too closely), and it is great for low light photos. But for anything with trees or grass - definitely no!
radicans said:
If you like to take nature photos, and if you are planning to watch the photos on something larger than the phone display, the Z3/compact is a bad choice. In this post is a comparison with the galaxy note 3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55980596&postcount=127
Now, this is viewing the pixels 1:1, which probably most people won't bother with. But even when scaling down this particular photo to about 2MP, the compression artifacts can still be noticed, and the GN3 photo is the better one! And it definitely proves that in certain cases, like photos with much detail, there are much better cameras out there.
But in other cases the Z3 camera produces beautiful images (if you don't look too closely), and it is great for low light photos. But for anything with trees or grass - definitely no!
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Thanks. the camera performance issues, the fact that HDR is a bit of a hustle to reach, and the reports of cracking displays have made me nervous enough to put my plans for buying the Z3C on hold, and maybe buy the S5. Not as pretty as the Z3C, but it may prove out to be a safe choice for now.
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Thanks. the camera performance issues, the fact that HDR is a bit of a hustle to reach, and the reports of cracking displays have made me nervous enough to put my plans for buying the Z3C on hold, and maybe buy the S5. Not as pretty as the Z3C, but it may prove out to be a safe choice for now.
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The HDR is easy, you just have to set it to 8MP or less, then HDR switch becomes available. And with the Z3 there is no point whatsoever to shoot in anything larger than 8MP anyway!
But yeah, if I would have known about the camera compression/oversharpening issues I would have settled for another phone. And speaking of compression, the funny thing is that in the comparison photos i posted, the file size of the inferior Z3 photo is about twice as large over the galaxy note photo!! Nice one Sony..
What would have been the smartphone you would have chosen in stead?
Well, there are not many options, if you want to keep pocketability, form factor and dedicated camera button.
I have some nice results with Pro Capture, but compared to stock camera app with a little touch of post processing (Snapseed e.g.), the camera is capable of some nice shots. But it's nothing THAT special really.
Still, beats my Nexus5 in terms of focus speed, which is kinda important for me, so...
But, YMMV.
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What would have been the smartphone you would have chosen in stead?
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Well, I really want the "small" form factor of Z3c, but without compromises. So that leaves most phones out I guess. Samsung galaxy alpha would have been nice, if it wasn't for the battery time and the big price tag. Probably would have waited with the purchase another 6 months or so, and see what the market looked like at that point.
I know I have ranted lots on the camera, but all things considered, it's still a great phone!
I have both, s8+ and Note 8. I first got the s8+ and was really happy with the quality of the pictures. then I got the Note 8 expecting to be able to get even better ones, but outcome was totally different. Actually the Note 8 pictures come out really out-focused and burry, even with a lot of noise in comparison with the pictures I've taken with the s8+. I'm really disappointed with that problem I'm having with the Note8 as I was expecting it to be my main device. Is there someone who's experiencing the same problem with the Note8? Does anyone know if there is any solution to this?
Any comment or help will be really appreciated!
I have to try real hard to take a burry picture, I would get it exchanged.
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I have to try real hard to take a burry picture, I would get it exchanged.
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Thanks... I was afraid that was the solution. Will do so. I'm glad tho to know I was the only one and not that all the devices had the same issues that mine has, so I can just exchange it for another one and everything is going to be fine.
UPDATE:
I exchanged my note 8 for a new one. Surprise it's still has the same problem (with the camera taking blurry and noisy pictures). That compared to others Note8's and my own S8+
Came to realize something. My S8 is the F version (International) which has a different CPU and GPU than the U version (US). Is the same with the Note8. the F and the U versions have different CPUs and GPU's. Maybe the different GPU is what's doing the difference by processing the image differently. What do you guys think?
Definitely think it's just a US problem which I hope is fixed soon. I switched from iPhone to the note 8 and the camera is making me regret this decision
I live in Sweden and i have a Note 8, F version (sm-n950f) same problem, noisy and griny pictures.
much worse than my old phone galaxy S7 edge.
Yeah my note 8(U) prints are worthless! I spent years talking with an online Samsung rep., and I wish they could refund me the time and energy I wasted with him. Although, i found it I send the pic to my printer via email the printer is substantially better. But still not nearly as crisp as any of my other devices (moto play z, galaxy S6). ...im really hoping they release an update?, offe any kind of solution as I have a daughter ...and I require a lot of amazing pictures!
Hi guys,
I just purchased the S9 and I was supposed to get it Friday. Due to me working remote, I will get it tomorrow.
From my documentation period, I get that the phone has an amazing camera. I tried to stay away from Samsung, even though the camera was top notch due to KNOX and lack of development. My last Samsung phone was an S2, that manged to run up to CM13 like a champ. But the battery life was terrible.
Since then I embraced the Xperia family, which has top notch hardware and almost vanilla Android. I just love the Sony compact phones. Their problem was and it still is to some degree, the camera. So this is the main reason I took into consideration the new Sammy.
I don't know if I will keep my S9, since I own 2 other Xperias, since I got it due to some big discount, but I am interested to hear your opinions and about your techniques of taking photos. My gf has a S7 and I noticed a lot of neat stuff (*cough* raw *cough*) and my best friend has an S8 that takes amazing photos in low light.
The S9 presents itself with a lot of interesting features, like the different aperture camera, raw format, multiframe noise reduction and so on.
I'll even enjoy articles about the theory of photography. It's so much junk of info online, that I don't know what to chose.
Can't wait to read what you have to say. Happy to meet y'all!