Simple question to discuss. Is there still enough support for the n7000 for people to develop the new 4.3 jelly bean for it. We all know we won't see it from Samsung so AOSP is the only way to go.
Don't get me wrong I'm using AOSP 4.2 with the NX kernel and the performance is superb, but 4.3 would be that much sweeter from what I've read.
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I think that depends on Cyanogenmod.
If they are continuing support for N7000 for future version or not.
Well, the differences between 4.2 and 4.3 aren't that big so I suppose every device which received 4.2 will also receive 4.2. The real challenge is going to be whether we will get support for KLP; I am not even sure whether the Galaxy Nexus will get official support for this release. If so I suspect our Note is also able to run KLP...
Since the difference aren't that big this time; you could now probably start building android yourself. So when the **** does hit the fan (when we won't het any support from the big devs anymore; which is understanable, because they tend to change devices a lot) you can at least try to build KLP (or the other next big release when a lot of devices are dropped from compatibility; think about an ICS like release) and see for yourself whether this latest build of android works for you...
This thread is absolutely pointless.
It's always so much harder when you have to try (David Gray).
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will ics come to Tab unnoficially ported? Is anyone looking into it?
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Unlikely- but possible, eventually. Do not expect anything fast, at the least, and if it does come sometime next year, it will NEVER come to the p1010
UP!
Hope the day come shortly.
It depends a lot on Google releasing the full source code of ICS. Considering that this version supports all device sizes (unlike Honeycomb) we may see the full code drop, as Google should have no fears about fragmentation anymore with this version.
On the other hand, if only partials are released, as was the case with Honeycomb, we may never see it happen or we may see it as late as winter 2012, two years after the P1000 release. Few devices still receive full attention on XDA two years after their release date and more than a year after the release of next generation devices.
I honestly like Gingerbread on the P1000. It's running fine and all functionality works well. It has a good battery life and a lot of power cramped in such a small package.
We'll have to wait and see,
C.
In other words chances are slim for an official release. I am on 2.3.7 which is a nexus s port (Boca) and very happy. The nexus s will get ICS soon so if Dizgustapatid gets his new computer we may be very lucky to see a release
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Hopefully we will see this once the source is released
Hi!
I'd like to know if it's reasonable to get a Note as developer phone for the next two years. (I'm noob to android, not to programming in general.)
I will need a more or less up to date android version. My (pessimistic) guess is that Samsung will upgrade the Note to JB and thats about it. There are some good roms out now and i wonder how the situation will be in one or two years. (Ver. 5.0?) Will the development community pick up where Samsung stops and continue to support the Note or will developers move on to newer phones?
Maybe someone can give me any insight on how much work is needed (was needed for ics) to port a new (minor/major) android version to a device or existing rom? (Anything between 1guy/1week and 4guys/4weeks?)
I know the usual answer is "get a Nexus" but I really like the big screen, thats why i have to ask.
Good to hear that one more person is coming into development of the GNote. Most Welcome. We are already hearing about the Chinese Jelly Bean leaks for Galaxy Note,then android keeps updating. But no matter what, we will have the devices and the development will move on. Hoping to see you soon.
I dont expect note to become developer device, better get a nexus for that
the nexus series are the first to be upgraded and build for developers
nothing beats the note in terms of screen thought
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I wouldnt expect this to have long term development either..Its the only negative I have about the phone but Im happy enough..
I'll be honest though I am pretty sure I'll get the next Nexus simply because development cant be beat that route.
as with all android devices the main dev base will always move on to newer devices when they upgrade, however im sure there will be for a good few years people sticking with the note after all main are locked into a contract or simply havnt the funds to buy a new devices when its released.
I for one will have my note for another 18 months or so, and look forward to using it solidly for deving, i have found it a great platform for app work/running linux/ROM development.
Of cause we dont know what the next big update of android will bring, it may mean that the note no longer has the power to run it etc but thats unlikely for some time (after all even the g1 'can' run ICS).
HansDB said:
I'd like to know if it's reasonable to get a Note as developer phone for the next two years. (I'm noob to android, not to programming in general.)
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If you want a developer phone, you really shouldn't consider anything other than a Nexus.
Whilst the Galaxy Nexus isn't exactly top drawer these days, it's still very good, and both it and the Nexus S will see Jelly Bean. Whilst I expect support for the Nexus S to drop off after Jelly Bean, the Galaxy Nexus should be good for at least the version after JB.
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Dave
this Q is for the developers who work so hard to keep this phone alive....
Our phone yet doesnot have working JB (project butter not working..i have seen nAa's post about it)..you think it can support key lime pie with its full features?
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maybe if it's andoid 4.2 (nothing but improvements over jelly bean). if, however, it is 5.0 then it'll be hard to get it working.
hope you understand.
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this Q is for the developers who so hard to keep this phone alive....
Our phone yet doesnot have working JB (project butter not working..i have seen nAa's post about it)..you think it can support key lime pie with its full features?
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Since Sony released nothing really and the lack of some hardware it will never have true Jelly Bean. This is the same for updates beyond that.
So no full key lime pie experience. But there might be a close-to-KLP experience. Just wait and see.
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Since Sony released nothing really and the lack of some hardware it will never have true Jelly Bean. This is the same for updates beyond that.
So no full key lime pie experience. But there might be a close-to-KLP experience. Just wait and see.
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Agreed.
If KLM turns out to be 5.0, then i seriously doubt our phones can handle it. But if it's the same as jb is to ics, then it's possible that we can have a "limited" version of it. Pretty much like the jb roms we have now.
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ok thanks......
pressed thanks for all
i think it is supposed to be 4.2
4.2 is supposed to be a minor update to Jellybean, sources say. So im guessing KLP wont be anytime soon.
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4.2 is supposed to be a minor update to Jellybean, sources say. So im guessing KLP wont be anytime soon.
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KLP is to come by end of october some say with the new nexus series
We don't know nothing about KLP yet. What we have heard are just rumors, most of them proved to be a hoax. Who knows, maybe it is really a small upgrade to Jelly Bean, but, as we have seen, with every Android update, our phone is getting more and more "vulnerable".
Explain?
Why does it get more vulnerable?
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Right... Not the best word I've picked.
What I mean is that every new Android version requires more resources and/or better phone specs than the other. Our device is getting older and older by the day. We can't expect it to run every new Android version perfectly so we shouldn't keep our hopes high. It's a 2010 phone for God's sake
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Chris95X8 said:
Right... Not the best word I've picked.
What I mean is that every new Android version requires more resources and/or better phone specs than the other. Our device is getting older and older by the day. We can't expect it to run every new Android version perfectly so we shouldn't keep our hopes high. It's a 2010 phone for God's sake
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Yeah i think the x8 is not able to handle the new version with good performance!
I would like to know if there has been any progress in the development for this phone. Has there anything happened since the release of Jelly Bean? And how about the Kernel, is it still corrupted or are we going to see some cm10 or AOSP based roms soon?
Even though JB has just been released, some people are still waiting for their OTA updates.
Give it some time.
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The last thing that I read was that it would be time-consuming and sometimes difficult to port all those ARM-based ROMs to the RAZR i because the architecture is so different. The phone has been available for about 5 months now, if dev hasn't come along yet...
This doesn't create choice as dev does but at least the official firmware is being updated quickly enough, Jelly Bean after 5 months, not too bad, I'd say this phone is in a good place for Key Lime Pie...that may not seem like much until other phones get dumped by their manufacturers.
Hi there,
after extending my Vodafone subscription for another 2 years they sent me a SGS3 I9305... Over the last years i was using SGS and SGS II with CM... After googling half a day and reading the other half of the day i got stuck - not knowing what do know with the I9305 because I am addicted to Cyanogenmod since I first bought the SGS... With the SGS II it became even better and now I don´t know if I should laugh or cry holding a flagship smartphone in my hands which is not ( officialy ) supported by the Firmware / Rom I love. This Forum looks like the place to ask a few of my questions related to the future of my I9305, Cyanogenmod and a few other things... so here we go:
-Why is the cyanogenmod team not developing for the I9305?
-Will they take over the work that is put into the "userbuilt" Version and add official support for the I9305?
-Will the "userbuilt" Version stay something like a "sidekick" or can we expect nightlies / fixes on a regular basis?
-Will the "userbuilt" Version stay on top of new releases / versions of Android?
-Does Codeworkx now "officially" support the "userbuilt" Version or was he just "snooping around" and giving some advice?
-Is the I9305 already "born dead" and should I sell it and wait for another Samsung device that´ll be supported again?
I really don´t know what to do... The Vodafone ( Germany ) Stock Rom is pain in the a** and flashing other "experimentals Roms" is no good for me either. I love and admire what the Cyanogenmod developers are doing and how much "brain matter" and energy they put into their project, but from my ( quite selfish ) point of view it feels wrong to give up on the users which were given a f****n I9305 by their Mobile-Providers and not the I9300...
Please enlighten me and if there is hope to use the I9305 like it was possible with SGS and SGS II in combination with CM please give me a hint how to achieve that. I´d really appreciate some CYANO-LOVE for my "not so smart" smartphone...
Many thanks in advance and greetings from good old germany - Clever&Smart
I think the closest thing you're going to get is liquids rom which is very close to cyanogen if not better. At the moment it's not stable enough for me but I'm sure after a few updates it will be worth using.
For now I've customised ripper rom to get the pure look. And it works flawlessly. And let's face it you can't beat having a Sammy base so that the camera works as it was intended to!
But be patient things change pretty quick on here and maybe codeworks will change his mind
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Amplified (the maintainer of Liquid Smooth I9305) has a say in official I9305 CM support but I don't know why you wouldn't just go for Liquid Smooth, we have a dedicated Dev that happily takes logcats, fixes problems, will be pushing out updates and most of all we know he will be sticking around unlike Codeworkx. Yes he has done SOO much but unfortunately he doesn't have our device and refuses to support Samsung for good reasons too so he can only do so much. Do as much as you can to help around and if we all do our bit we will see a flourishing I9305 forum.
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Amplified (the maintainer of Liquid Smooth I9305) has a say in official I9305 CM support but I don't know why you wouldn't just go for Liquid Smooth, we have a dedicated Dev that happily takes logcats, fixes problems, will be pushing out updates and most of all we know he will be sticking around unlike Codeworkx. Yes he has done SOO much but unfortunately he doesn't have our device and refuses to support Samsung for good reasons too so he can only do so much. Do as much as you can to help around and if we all do our bit we will see a flourishing I9305 forum.
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Am I understanding your answer right? Is the Liquid Smooth ROM a ROM from the CyanogenMod Development Tree ?
Its they're own based of some from cm and aosp
It's pretty close though!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38033836
I too was sadden by the lack developmental roms on here but I love this device so oh well
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Here you go mate
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38243046
[ROM][GT-I9305][JB][4.2.2] CyanogenMod 10.1 unofficial builds
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djembey said:
Here you go mate
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38243046
[ROM][GT-I9305][JB][4.2.2] CyanogenMod 10.1 unofficial builds
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That is still the exact same CM, now you just dont have to screen through 46 pages to know what is going on
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That is still the exact same CM, now you just dont have to screen through 46 pages to know what is going on
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But - correct me if I am wrong - I think it´s still "not maintained" and codeworkx is flaming everybody who is not a development pro because he is mad... and under these circumstances it doesn´t seem to be very wise to install it right now - right ?
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But - correct me if I am wrong - I think it´s still "not maintained" and codeworkx is flaming everybody who is not a development pro because he is mad... and under these circumstances it doesn´t seem to be very wise to install it right now - right ?
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You have 2 options.
1. Install it and try it.. It's not maintained yet and it's Unofficial build as Codeworkx don't own an i9305.....
2. Wait until CM project have full support for i9305..... You can wait forever. ....
It's completely up to you mate
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cleverandsmart said:
-Why is the cyanogenmod team not developing for the I9305?
-Will they take over the work that is put into the "userbuilt" Version and add official support for the I9305?
-Will the "userbuilt" Version stay something like a "sidekick" or can we expect nightlies / fixes on a regular basis?
-Will the "userbuilt" Version stay on top of new releases / versions of Android?
-Does Codeworkx now "officially" support the "userbuilt" Version or was he just "snooping around" and giving some advice?
-Is the I9305 already "born dead" and should I sell it and wait for another Samsung device that´ll be supported again?
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To answer your questions in order,
We don't have an official maintainer because
i: hardly anyone owns this device;
ii: of the few people who do own this device, most are not able to maintain it, and none have previously maintained devices for CM;
iii: codeworkx is not willing to maintain it because, in very short, Samsung are very nearly the worst OEM when it comes to supporting third-party development; besides which, he doesn't own the device, which makes it very difficult for him to work on the port.
If a maintainer appears, we'll get official nightlies. I wouldn't hold your breath.
As above, if a maintainer appears, he or she will likely take over the existing device tree and the unofficial version will just become irrelevant.
If someone makes new builds, yes. There are a few of us who can do that until something major breaks, since builds really only require time rather than knowledge.
Codeworkx does not, and has never, supported this device or offered to maintain it. He just took pity on us because no-one here has enough porting experience to do it properly otherwise. That said, he has fixed a lot of bugs, and at this point in time the build is pretty much comparable in stability to the t0lte builds.
Since you care about AOSP ROMs - sell it, get a Nexus 4. If for some reason you don't want that, just don't get a Samsung device - seriously. Almost any manufacturer save HTC would be better; Sony in particular seem to be flavour of the month. Samsung are really, really bad in this one regard (i.e., releasing proper sources). There's still a lot that's not yet released, and what's there took far too long to get.
With regard to the LiquidSmooth ROM, it's hard to judge exactly what Amplified can do. He hasn't updated the LiquidSmooth device tree except with the changes codeworkx has made. He also implied a while back that C/C++ aren't his preferred languages, in which case I would expect hardware support to improve slowly at best. I don't mean any of that as criticism of Amplified, of course, I just don't want to tell you that all will be well without knowing beyond doubt whether Amplified can fix driver issues down the line.
Having said that, the unofficial CM build really is entirely usable, and I expect LiquidSmooth is much the same. I daresay the former will be kept up-to-date by the community until Android 5 appears, at which point porting will probably require a skilled developer again. The progress of the latter is up to Amplified.