I bought this 32 GB HTC One T-Mobile phone which is unlocked, and will be here in a few days. It IS an M7, right? It has rooted stock firmware (not sure if Sense or AOSP) but will probably flash a custom ROM. I read up on the Google Edition bootloader/recovery, and read Vomer's guide as well. I'm not sure if I need to do the whole GE process before I flash a GE ROM, or which GE/AOSP ROM I should go with. It seems like most of them are Sense, so which ones are AOSP?
The one original android development forum is the asop Roms .
There are GE versions that will work with your current setup. The only reason to "convert to the GE version is for official ota updates.
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ihavoc said:
The one original android development forum is the asop Roms .
There are GE versions that will work with your current setup. The only reason to "convert to the GE version is for official ota updates.
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The what? Oh, you mean the ORIGINAL One forums has AOSP ROMs? How do you tell the difference between the original One and the 2013 model?
How often are there OTA updates? Those are usually compiled into current custom ROMs, right?
In the case of the HTC One, would Sense be better over AOSP (not just because of the camera)? It would seem there are more Sense-based ROMs than AOKP/AOSP ones. I also see a few Sense/GE ROMs. What exactly does that mean? Is it just Sense with the additional AOSP settings and options? If I wanted the best camera, should I just stick with Sense?
UndeadSquirrel said:
The what? Oh, you mean the ORIGINAL One forums has AOSP ROMs? How do you tell the difference between the original One and the 2013 model?
How often are there OTA updates? Those are usually compiled into current custom ROMs, right?
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There is a android dev and there is an original dev. Read up on the stickies and you'll get an explanation, after you read ask questions with direction so users won't have to type up 2-3 paragraphs explaining everything out .
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UndeadSquirrel said:
The what? Oh, you mean the ORIGINAL One forums has AOSP ROMs? How do you tell the difference between the original One and the 2013 model?
How often are there OTA updates? Those are usually compiled into current custom ROMs, right?
In the case of the HTC One, would Sense be better over AOSP (not just because of the camera)? It would seem there are more Sense-based ROMs than AOKP/AOSP ones. I also see a few Sense/GE ROMs. What exactly does that mean? Is it just Sense with the additional AOSP settings and options? If I wanted the best camera, should I just stick with Sense?
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Stock Sense 5 is very good. You can try AOSP ROMs and see if you don't miss the Sense features. The camera app has been ported to AOSP if I remember well so you don't loose Zoe/Highlights.
I'm stock and haven't planned on going o AOSP or other custom ROMs because I'm more than happy with Sense 5, except some things here and there, but the same can be said about any other ROM. the one thing I change was the launcher. It's good, but not as flexible as Nova, specially for adding more columns/rows to home screens.
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Basic info about my device:
Model : HTC Incredible S
Android Version : 4.0.4
HTC sense version : 3.6
Software number : 4.12.720.1
I have started to feel that my phone is getting slow and I read about the benefits of rooting. So, I am planning to root my device. While going through the online tutorials, I came to know that once I root it, I won't get updates from HTC and there are also some risks of ending up with a bricked phone. Some posts said that after the recent android update, the old methods of rooting won't work.
Can someone please post a link or method of rooting my device in easiest way possible? I'd also like to know whether android version/looks will remain same after rooting? As per posts, I won't be able to get HTC updates. What are my options of staying updated in case my device supports new android versions? I kinda like the UI of my phone. Is it possible to root my phone without altering anything else?
Detailed answers would be better.
zwitter said:
Basic info about my device:
Model : HTC Incredible S
Android Version : 4.0.4
HTC sense version : 3.6
Software number : 4.12.720.1
I have started to feel that my phone is getting slow and I read about the benefits of rooting. So, I am planning to root my device. While going through the online tutorials, I came to know that once I root it, I won't get updates from HTC and there are also some risks of ending up with a bricked phone. Some posts said that after the recent android update, the old methods of rooting won't work.
Can someone please post a link or method of rooting my device in easiest way possible? I'd also like to know whether android version/looks will remain same after rooting? As per posts, I won't be able to get HTC updates. What are my options of staying updated in case my device supports new android versions? I kinda like the UI of my phone. Is it possible to root my phone without altering anything else?
Detailed answers would be better.
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There won't be any more updates from HTC that's for sure. I mean I once read that HTC plans on stopping the One X after 4.2.2. I think HTC was already extremely generous to give us 4.0.4. Besides, Sense 3.6 is the crappy version of Sense 4 anyways and Sense 4 looks nicer in almost every aspect in my opinion.
Rooting is as basic unlocking the bootloader via HTCdev.com and flashing a custom recovery. However, you will notice that some people have something called S-OFF. Unlike just unlocking the bootloader (which still leaves S-ON), S-OFF grants you permission to certain parts of a particular partition (which I don't seem to remember but what I say here should be enough) and in that way, you do not need to flash the boot.img within each custom ROM (which is probably, the biggest limitation of leaving your phone at S-ON). This is quite a bit to swallow but you'll understand more as you go along rooting and flashing custom ROM plus a bit of Google searching on the side.
As for guides, look at the top of the General Section (you're in it right now!) and everything that's labelled [GUIDE] should be good to use.
To answer the last question, yes it is possible to root the phone and leaving everything as is although there is absolutely no point in doing so. Unlocking the bootloader WILL WIPE your phone clean (ie game data, sms, call logs.....). It would be best to just start fresh. If you are so intent on staying on Sense 3.6, then I would recommend you to either Android Revolution HD or Blackout ROM which you can find more information on in the Android Development section.
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There won't be any more updates from HTC that's for sure. I mean I once read that HTC plans on stopping the One X after 4.2.2. I think HTC was already extremely generous to give us 4.0.4. Besides, Sense 3.6 is the crappy version of Sense 4 anyways and Sense 4 looks nicer in almost every aspect in my opinion.
Rooting is as basic unlocking the bootloader via HTCdev.com and flashing a custom recovery. However, you will notice that some people have something called S-OFF. Unlike just unlocking the bootloader (which still leaves S-ON), S-OFF grants you permission to certain parts of a particular partition (which I don't seem to remember but what I say here should be enough) and in that way, you do not need to flash the boot.img within each custom ROM (which is probably, the biggest limitation of leaving your phone at S-ON). This is quite a bit to swallow but you'll understand more as you go along rooting and flashing custom ROM plus a bit of Google searching on the side.
As for guides, look at the top of the General Section (you're in it right now!) and everything that's labelled [GUIDE] should be good to use.
To answer the last question, yes it is possible to root the phone and leaving everything as is although there is absolutely no point in doing so. Unlocking the bootloader WILL WIPE your phone clean (ie game data, sms, call logs.....). It would be best to just start fresh. If you are so intent on staying on Sense 3.6, then I would recommend you to either Android Revolution HD or Blackout ROM which you can find more information on in the Android Development section.
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Thanks for the reply.
Well, I gave a thought and I don't plan to stick to the sense 3.6 looks coz sense 4 will definitely be better. Can you suggest a good ROM for me? I have heard about Cyanogen Mod. What's your opinion regarding that? They have provided full tutorial for flashing their recent ROM. Does that also mean that I will get the superuser access or do I need to do something extra?
zwitter said:
Thanks for the reply.
Well, I gave a thought and I don't plan to stick to the sense 3.6 looks coz sense 4 will definitely be better. Can you suggest a good ROM for me? I have heard about Cyanogen Mod. What's your opinion regarding that? They have provided full tutorial for flashing their recent ROM. Does that also mean that I will get the superuser access or do I need to do something extra?
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Well, if you want so stick with Sense, you should try out ViperVIVO and Nik's Project X best Sense Based ROMs I know
Gizmo648 said:
Well, if you want so stick with Sense, you should try out ViperVIVO and Nik's Project X best Sense Based ROMs I know
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I was looking for some ROMs and this one caught my eye. CyanVIVO 10.1
link : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2245794
What do you suggest? Which one is better?
zwitter said:
I was looking for some ROMs and this one caught my eye. CyanVIVO 10.1
link : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2245794
What do you suggest? Which one is better?
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I never tried this one, i thought you want to use Sense?
zwitter said:
I was looking for some ROMs and this one caught my eye. CyanVIVO 10.1
link : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2245794
What do you suggest? Which one is better?
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Depends on what you're looking for really. CyanVivo10.1 is Android 4.2.2. Id say I'm only using CyanVivo10.1 for the sole purpose of having a theme engine plus theres always more free RAM on AOSP ROMs which Id like since multitasking its pretty essential to me.
However in terms of battery and overall performance Id have to ViperVivo is best. Nik Project_X_Rebirth is also a very good choice but the lock screen ticks me off -.- My favourite Sense ROM is either Blackout or KingCobra although the latter has had reports of not booting past the splash screen for a number of people.
I don't think HTC is generous when it comes to sending updates. There's no official JB release for the Sensation. The Galaxy S2 got it though. Typical HTC...
Sent from one of the surviving Incredible S phones of the past
zukri90 said:
I don't think HTC is generous when it comes to sending updates. There's no official JB release for the Sensation. The Galaxy S2 got it though. Typical HTC...
Sent from one of the surviving Incredible S phones of the past
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Has it ever occured to you that the S II probably has a CPU that natively supports ion?? And that's why they have Jellybean where as the Sensation does not?? HTC isn't gonna work their bums off to get a device to support ion when they have the newer phones such as the HOX and the One.
072665995 said:
Has it ever occured to you that the S II probably has a CPU that natively supports ion?? And that's why they have Jellybean where as the Sensation does not?? HTC isn't gonna work their bums off to get a device to support ion when they have the newer phones such as the HOX and the One.
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All I know is HTC's customer service is not as good as Samsung's.
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zwitter said:
Basic info about my device:
Model : HTC Incredible S
Android Version : 4.0.4
HTC sense version : 3.6
Software number : 4.12.720.1
I have started to feel that my phone is getting slow and I read about the benefits of rooting. So, I am planning to root my device. While going through the online tutorials, I came to know that once I root it, I won't get updates from HTC and there are also some risks of ending up with a bricked phone. Some posts said that after the recent android update, the old methods of rooting won't work.
Can someone please post a link or method of rooting my device in easiest way possible? I'd also like to know whether android version/looks will remain same after rooting? As per posts, I won't be able to get HTC updates. What are my options of staying updated in case my device supports new android versions? I kinda like the UI of my phone. Is it possible to root my phone without altering anything else?
Detailed answers would be better.
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okay, after reading your statement, I have to tell you a thing, rooting out HTC IncS which running on Android 4.0.4+Sense 3.6 is impossible (guys, correct me if I'm wrong) If you want to root it, you have to downgrade it back to Android 2.3.5, which is a VERY troublesome thing.. here's a guide might help you understand something about rooting our HTC IncS! >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987687
jacksonpang said:
okay, after reading your statement, I have to tell you a thing, rooting out HTC IncS which running on Android 4.0.4+Sense 3.6 is impossible (guys, correct me if I'm wrong) If you want to root it, you have to downgrade it back to Android 2.3.5, which is a VERY troublesome thing.. here's a guide might help you understand something about rooting our HTC IncS! >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987687
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rooting and S-OFF are not the same thing. Rooting is just unlock bootloader and flash custom recovery. That is certainly possible on any android OS. S-OFF on the other hand, you need to downgrade back to 2.3.3 (in order to get HBOOT 1.13) and then run revolutionary to get S-OFF
jacksonpang said:
okay, after reading your statement, I have to tell you a thing, rooting out HTC IncS which running on Android 4.0.4+Sense 3.6 is impossible (guys, correct me if I'm wrong) If you want to root it, you have to downgrade it back to Android 2.3.5, which is a VERY troublesome thing.. here's a guide might help you understand something about rooting our HTC IncS! >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987687
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Sorry, but it is possible to gain root access on the HTC ICS/Sense 3.6 ROM without the downgrading option that you referenced.
Unlocking the bootloader using the procedure at HTCDEV.com will allow you to install a custom recovery such as CWM or 4EXT and then you can flash SuperSu which will allow apps to request root access. With a custom recovery in place, a user can also flash a custom ROM, but the drawback is that /boot partition is mounted R/O in recovery mode, so you manually have to flash the boot.img of the custom ROM in FASTBOOT USB mode.
Gaining S-OFF is another form of 'unlocking' the bootloader and giving you full access to all of the partitions as well as the radio. S-OFF by itself does not necessarily provide your apps with root access. That is dependent on the ROM that is installed.
072665995 said:
rooting and S-OFF are not the same thing. Rooting is just unlock bootloader and flash custom recovery. That is certainly possible on any android OS. S-OFF on the other hand, you need to downgrade back to 2.3.3 (in order to get HBOOT 1.13) and then run revolutionary to get S-OFF
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Oops, yes, you're right! S-off would need to roll back to Gingerbread, while rooting doesn't need. I mixed it up :silly:
zwitter said:
I was looking for some ROMs and this one caught my eye. CyanVIVO 10.1
link : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2245794
What do you suggest? Which one is better?
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CyanVIVO 10.1 is amazingly fast and smooth. Although, don't expect the same battery life as sense, as cm is not optimized for or phone.
If you want sense, Nik Rebirth is pretty good.
I personally hate sense as it is ugly, but it has its benefits such as battery life and more widgets.
Gizmo648 said:
Well, if you want so stick with Sense, you should try out ViperVIVO and Nik's Project X best Sense Based ROMs I know
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Don't go for ViperVIVO because
a) The download link has been removed
b) And even if you do find the link somehow, Team Venom have officially stopped supporting or device, so don't expect any updates soon.
Click thanks if I helped you out!
LamboBull said:
CyanVIVO 10.1 is amazingly fast and smooth. Although, don't expect the same battery life as sense, as cm is not optimized for or phone.
If you want sense, Nik Rebirth is pretty good.
I personally hate sense as it is ugly, but it has its benefits such as battery life and more widgets.
Don't go for ViperVIVO because
a) The download link has been removed
b) And even if you do find the link somehow, Team Venom have officially stopped supporting or device, so don't expect any updates soon.
Click thanks if I helped you out!
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Uh no, the download link is still there. Nevertheless its still a great ROM with virtually no bugs so the only thing you could be improving is battery life and performance and if you still want more then you would be very greedy to do so because it already performs well in both.
072665995 said:
However in terms of battery and overall performance Id have to ViperVivo is best. Nik Project_X_Rebirth is also a very good choice but the lock screen ticks me off -.- My favourite Sense ROM is either Blackout or KingCobra although the latter has had reports of not booting past the splash screen for a number of people.
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lol I never got king cobra to boot
About lockscreen: push the lockscreen from a previous version and fusion.apk cause that is where the lock ring hides. I am not a fan of the new layout either so that is what I did
zukri90 said:
I don't think HTC is generous when it comes to sending updates. There's no official JB release for the Sensation. The Galaxy S2 got it though. Typical HTC...
Sent from one of the surviving Incredible S phones of the past
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GS2 is like half done, yes its there but it is not very good. There are still UI elements from ICS and even GB and half the things stop working
072665995 said:
Has it ever occured to you that the S II probably has a CPU that natively supports ion?? And that's why they have Jellybean where as the Sensation does not?? HTC isn't gonna work their bums off to get a device to support ion when they have the newer phones such as the HOX and the One.
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Nup your argument doesn't work cause VilleC2 (One S with snapdragon s3) has JB Sense
It has the exact same chipset as the Sensation but runs at a higher clock. Its got a linux 3.4 kernel with JB Sense from HTC so it definitely supports it.
LamboBull said:
CyanVIVO 10.1 is amazingly fast and smooth. Although, don't expect the same battery life as sense, as cm is not optimized for or phone.
If you want sense, Nik Rebirth is pretty good.
I personally hate sense as it is ugly, but it has its benefits such as battery life and more widgets.
Don't go for ViperVIVO because
a) The download link has been removed
b) And even if you do find the link somehow, Team Venom have officially stopped supporting or device, so don't expect any updates soon.
Click thanks if I helped you out!
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I know that, but I still use the ROM, most customizable and Full sense :3
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using xda premium
072665995 said:
Uh no, the download link is still there. Nevertheless its still a great ROM with virtually no bugs so the only thing you could be improving is battery life and performance and if you still want more then you would be very greedy to do so because it already performs well in both.
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I see the links are still up. But I said that there are not going to be updates, which apart from improvements, include new features. Don't get too defensive bro
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Hi Guys,
Just bought the HTC One Developer Edition, and was planning on putting the Google GE on there. But after reading some of the threads I'm planning on giving sense a try.
Can anyone recommend a Sense rom that is fairly fully functional without all the bloat? I want to try the stock rom, but don't want the kids features etc.
I looked through all the Roms and didn't find anything close to stock without all the bloatware.
Thanks in advance!
Rez
rezrez12 said:
Hi Guys,
Just bought the HTC One Developer Edition, and was planning on putting the Google GE on there. But after reading some of the threads I'm planning on giving sense a try.
Can anyone recommend a Sense rom that is fairly fully functional without all the bloat? I want to try the stock rom, but don't want the kids features etc.
I looked through all the Roms and didn't find anything close to stock without all the bloatware.
Thanks in advance!
Rez
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ARHD 12.1 the closest to stock
OR
Team Venom ViperOne 1.2.1 the most customizations
HAVE FUN!
rezrez12 said:
Hi Guys,
Just bought the HTC One Developer Edition, and was planning on putting the Google GE on there. But after reading some of the threads I'm planning on giving sense a try.
Can anyone recommend a Sense rom that is fairly fully functional without all the bloat? I want to try the stock rom, but don't want the kids features etc.
I looked through all the Roms and didn't find anything close to stock without all the bloatware.
Thanks in advance!
Rez
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Maximus is pretty much stock without all the bloatware
You can use romcleaner to remove any bloated app in your opinion from any Rom, highly recommended!
Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 4 Beta
Thank you all!!
I'll start with ARHD and move on from there!!
Hi guys,
I have an HTC One which I had flashed with Cyanogenmod 10.2 and I now want to go back to Sense. I Would like to install Android 4.4 Sense 5.5 (I think!) Or whatever the latest is that is stock.
I have flashed a phone only once before, 6 months ago so have some understanding of what I am doing, but not a great deal.
How do I know which zip file to download please and how can I find it? I am in Europe (England) and my phone provider is Three.
I tried to install this and it failed so I restored my backup. "bigxie_m7_GPe_KRT16S_odexed-signed.zip"
I have TWRP 2.7.0.1
Thank you for any help,
AndroidAddict999 said:
Hi guys,
I have an HTC One which I had flashed with Cyanogenmod 10.2 and I now want to go back to Sense. I Would like to install Android 4.4 Sense 5.5 (I think!) Or whatever the latest is that is stock.
.....
Thank you for any help,
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Do you want a custom rom or a RUU (like it came from the factory).
aooga said:
Do you want a custom rom or a RUU (like it came from the factory).
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Like it came from the factory please.
Sorry, just noticed that my first post was not clear;
I tried to install this; "bigxie_m7_GPe_KRT16S_odexed-signed.zip" but it did not work. (I had been following a YouTube vid) so I retored my backup that I had made.
When you say "from the factory" . . . I don't want the phone provider (Three's) software bits in there. I would rather just the Google Sense stuff.
So I think I want Android 4.4 (KitKat) Sense 5.5 . . I think!
I have just restored my phone to its Factory Original software that I backed up when I first flashed the Cyanogenmod 10.2 in there. So I am part way there but really I would like the above/latest 4.4 software.
Thanks, hope I'm not talking too much rubbish as this is all new to me.
Thanks
AndroidAddict999 said:
When you say "from the factory" . . . I don't want the phone provider (Three's) software bits in there. I would rather just the Google Sense stuff.
So I think I want Android 4.4 (KitKat) Sense 5.5 . . I think!
I have just restored my phone to its Factory Original software that I backed up when I first flashed the Cyanogenmod 10.2 in there. So I am part way there but really I would like the above/latest 4.4 software.
Thanks, hope I'm not talking too much rubbish as this is all new to me.
Thanks
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Yeah you've lost me. So are you saying that you want just stock sense without all the carrier modifications? If so, then use the ARHD rom. It removed all the carrier bits and it's now based on Sense 6.
aooga said:
Yeah you've lost me. So are you saying that you want just stock sense without all the carrier modifications?
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Yes, thats exactly it. No carrier stuff, just as Google intended it to be! :good:
AndroidAddict999 said:
Yes, thats exactly it. No carrier stuff, just as Google intended it to be! :good:
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Wait...Google or HTC? If you want Google you need a Google play edition ROM. If you want HTC sense, you need a sense based ROM(arhd).
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aooga said:
Wait...Google or HTC? If you want Google you need a Google play edition ROM. If you want HTC sense, you need a sense based ROM(arhd).
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OK, I think I am learning something!! Google Play Edition is Google software and Sense is HTC software?
Is HTC software based on Google software or does HTC write their own software?
Sorry for the basic questions!!
AndroidAddict999 said:
OK, I think I am learning something!! Google Play Edition is Google software and Sense is HTC software?
Is HTC software based on Google software or does HTC write their own software?
Sorry for the basic questions!!
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All android manufactures (well, almost) create their own skin on top of Android. It's still Android, but heavily customized.
EDIT: So here is what I meant.
For Stock Google Play Edition (no HTC sense, 4.4.2): http://www.androidrevolution.org/downloader/download.php?file=Android_Revolution_HD-One_6.1_GE.zip
For Stock HTC Sense (sense 6, 4.4.2) http://www.androidrevolution.org/downloader/download.php?file=Android_Revolution_HD-One_63.0.zip (this is still uploading so you can't download it yet, but I'm assuming you will be able to pretty soon)
aooga said:
All android manufactures (well, almost) create their own skin on top of Android. It's still Android, but heavily customized.
EDIT: So here is what I meant.
For Stock Google Play Edition (no HTC sense, 4.4.2): http://www.androidrevolution.org/downloader/download.php?file=Android_Revolution_HD-One_6.1_GE.zip
For Stock HTC Sense (sense 6, 4.4.2) http://www.androidrevolution.org/downloader/download.php?file=Android_Revolution_HD-One_63.0.zip (this is still uploading so you can't download it yet, but I'm assuming you will be able to pretty soon)
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That's absolutly perfect!!! Thank you very much!! I have just had a quick look on You Tube and I like the look of the Sense features so i think I will hang on for that to be ready.
Thanks a lot for your help, and apologies for my basic questions. You have cleared up a lot!!!
Thanks for the links, that was exactly what I was looking for
I hated the Sense 6 update so much I have rolled back. The only things I enjoyed with it were the camera, theme functions, and a small handful of other APKs it came with. Is it possible to find the APKs of ones choosing from Sense 6, install them on Sense 5.5, and have them work? I run ViperOne ROM 5.8.0, KK 4.4.2 on ATT HTC one.
apexnine said:
I hated the Sense 6 update so much I have rolled back. The only things I enjoyed with it were the camera, theme functions, and a small handful of other APKs it came with. Is it possible to find the APKs of ones choosing from Sense 6, install them on Sense 5.5, and have them work? I run ViperOne ROM 5.8.0, KK 4.4.2 on ATT HTC one.
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no
clsA said:
no
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That was pretty straight forward. Is it basically that older Sense APKs can go to new versions of Sense, but not vice versa?
It may seem that when I do decide to upgrade again I will need to try a different ROM. I've used ViperOne for a long time now and never had any problems, but with this update something definitely was causing several conflicts on my phone.
apexnine said:
That was pretty straight forward. Is it basically that older Sense APKs can go to new versions of Sense, but not vice versa?
It may seem that when I do decide to upgrade again I will need to try a different ROM. I've used ViperOne for a long time now and never had any problems, but with this update something definitely was causing several conflicts on my phone.
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Custom roms can do that. If you flash a custom or. You have to remember they are all beta
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Hi to all you amazing Custom ROM chefs.
I'm sure loads of us are waiting for the roll out of M7-based Android 5.0 ROMs, especially as we know the GPE version is imminent, but maybe like me they don't understand the full process. So would someone kindly let me know the following, and by posting it here I'm sure many other people will be able to understand.
Once the GPE image is released, how long do you expect it to take before the image is edited to run on non-GPE phones? And who actually does this? Do all you devs wait for the CM12 nightlies to be released and then base your own ROMs on that? Or is the port very easy once HTC release the GPE ROM, which allows you to build your ROMs from scratch? I read enough on xda to understand that there are some 'big' players out there, like ARHD, Paranoid Android, SlimRom, ASAP, etc. Do other devs wait for these and then do their own mods? And (potential 'grey area') where do the images actually come from? Do HTC happily give their images to the main devs, knowing that there's a whole User Base who will stick with their HTC handsets if they can customise them with 'unofficial' ROMs? After all, if we stick with our M7s and M8s, then we're not buying Samsung or Nexus and the market share tilts ever-so-slightly in favour of HTC.
I hope someone will take the time to explain the Custom ROM process, and I also hope this will stop other users from posting "when, when, when?" threads (irony appreciated).
Thanks in advance,
miles_muso
Since anyone hasn't answered this yet, I'll throw in what I know...
There are three types of ROMs: Google Play Edition, Sense, and AOSP.
GPE roms are stock, Nexus-like roms that have underlying frameworks similar to that of Sense (which I'll get into in a sec) however they are aesthetically virtually the same as the Nexus devices. They receive updates much quicker than their Sense counterparts due to HTC not having as big a role in modifying the interface, etc. They also have apps that are very similar (if not the same) as AOSP apps. SinlessRom GPE and Android Revolution (GPE) are examples of this.
Sense roms are HTC roms. HTC takes the updates Google releases and then proceeds to change it drastically, both under-the-hood and aesthetically. Their interfaces are heavily modified and they often have different apps from AOSP and GPE. These take the longest to release new versions of Android for. Android Revolution HD (Sense) is an example of this.
AOSP comes straight from Google. ROMs such as CyanogenMod are a modified AOSP. AOSP Lollipop is already available to build and it has been built for our M7. AOSP roms are (nearly always) aftermarket roms and can work on all S-On m7 devices. ParanoidAndroid and CyanogenMod are examples of this.
If a user has a phone that ships with HTC Sense, they will typically have to achieve S-Off before flashing a GPE rom. I'm not sure if the same is true for the vice versa, however I can imagine it is.
Now, to answer your question, you can build roms from scratch already (and there are some that have been released). You can't build Sense or GPE from source and you must modify official versions, leaks, or ports. You can build AOSP from source, and since we have somewhat-proper kernel source for Lollipop, it's not as difficult as it is for less-popular devices that don't have that source.
I personally feel like the release of GPE will be most helpful for AOSP in the aspect of kernel sources (as it will be the first OFFICIAL and hopefully BUG-FREE Lollipop for the m7 devices).
I'll add to this post if I can think of anything else.
Hi nuuits,
Thanks for your reply, this is EXACTLY the kind of info I wanted here. Hopefully this will help a lot of people understand the Custom ROM development phases. And, may I ask, when do YOU think we'll start seeing the first batch of ROMs based on Android 5 (apart from CM12, which, as you state, is currently available)?
miles_muso said:
Hi nuuits,
Thanks for your reply, this is EXACTLY the kind of info I wanted here. Hopefully this will help a lot of people understand the Custom ROM development phases. And, may I ask, when do YOU think we'll start seeing the first batch of ROMs based on Android 5 (apart from CM12, which, as you state, is currently available)?
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Apart from AOSP, you can expect GPE and Sense ROMs when they're either leaked, ported, or released officially.
Leaks are "early builds" (not always intended for the general public's use) that are, well, leaked to sites such as XDA. Ports occur when you take a ROM for one phone (let's say the M8 ) and port it over to ours. Official releases are just that- ROMs pushed by HTC and/or Google.
You can expect custom GPE ROMs when one of the above occurs. I'm putting my finger on "official release", which is projected for the coming week(s), however I can never really know!!
Sense ROMs will come much later than GPE (but still within HTC's 90 day limit- if they keep their end of the bargain). There's an even toss between the above three methods imo- as the m8 will get the Sense update before the m7, we might see a port. Leaks are somewhat likely and the official release will come when it comes (which is hopefully before and probably around the 90 day mark- so January at latest).
After the initial stock ROMs are leaked, ported, or released, there are bound to be updates to your favourite custom ROMs, but of course that depends on the developer in question.