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One (if not the only ) of the nifty features of the iPhone is the ability to browse and download applications for the iPhone. The application AppToDate tries to support the automated download of new versions of applications for WM, however, it doesn't seem to be able to actually list all applications that are available through AppToDate. If this would be possible, then this would be a move towards a similar functionality as the App Store application gives on the iPhone.
It may be a good idea to
1. adapt AppToDate to also show not yet installed applications, for browsing fun, and
2. to start append to the AppToDate configuration many applications that are at the moment not yet supported.
This is a suggestion which may be interesting to the developers around here, or maybe something similar already exists for WM devices to which somebody can point me?
That sounds like a really good idea. It would mean all the current developers of Windows mobile apps would need to make sure that they are incorporated into ApptoDate but that would be a good thing.
Would also have to adapt ApptoDate to enable paying applications to be included to, and thats prob where the confusion would begin.
Be good to have one that includes all the latest Diamond apps that are currently being worked on and released on here, thats a start and can then be built on as time goes on.
tomchap said:
That sounds like a really good idea. It would mean all the current developers of Windows mobile apps would need to make sure that they are incorporated into ApptoDate but that would be a good thing.
Would also have to adapt ApptoDate to enable paying applications to be included to, and thats prob where the confusion would begin.
Be good to have one that includes all the latest Diamond apps that are currently being worked on and released on here, thats a start and can then be built on as time goes on.
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Yes, if all developers on XDA here would use the AppToDate, and we would find a means to have all supported applications listed by default it would be a perfect starting point to start getting momentum.
Do any of you know if it is possible to use Visual Basic 2008 to create applications for the G1. I know it can make mobile apps but only for Windows mobile phones. I have the entire suite of Visual Basic 2008 so I can use a couple different languages I just don't know which will work.
thanks
No, the G1 apps are Java based and must be built on the Android API (at least so far). The easiest way to do this is to use Eclipse and the Eclipse add-in available from Google.
http://code.google.com/android/documentation.html
Mono (a cross-platform system for .NET) is available in the Android market. I know it supports C# but I'm not sure about VB and I'm not sure how usable it is. Check it out in the market and it has a link for directions.
Hope this helps!
Geniusdog254 said:
I know it supports C# but I'm not sure about VB and I'm not sure how usable it is.
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.Net is .Net... it compiles down to IL which is what gets executed. If Mono is on Android, it might be possible to make something work. There would be some additional work to exposed the Android intents, etc. as "Forms" for VB.
I'd say that it is "possible", but it isn't very likely any time soon.
Chinpokomon said:
I'd say that it is "possible", but it isn't very likely any time soon.
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Koush is making good progress on that front, it looks like.
http://www.koushikdutta.com/2009/02/monodalvik-interop.html
http://code.google.com/p/androidmono/
It would be so muhc more useful is you could develop android applications via Visual Basic, C#, or even C.
I would much rather prefer the android to be C/C++
Oh well.
Here we go:
I use a number of Microsoft Access Databases for my work, and each one is intensely coded and designed and basically run like actual programs. What I am looking for is to be able to take these databases with me. Now understanding that Microsoft and Android are two completely different beasts, what I really am looking for is the ability to take the tables (I use all Back-end database so all my tables are in a completely separate file then all my forms, queries, and reports) and the data with me and be able to run them in a program on Android that keeps the relationships and fields and all of that sort of stuff.
Now what would be great is the ability to use forms (even if special forms for android need to be made), run queries, and even be able to run reports and print as PDFs.
now I know how to code in VBA, hence the extensive coding I have done in Access, so anybody willing to WORK WITH in creating an Android Program to basically be an extension of Microsoft Access please contact me. Please not I use the words WORK WITH loosely, while I am trying to learn how to Program for Android, I currently do not have a computer that I can use to develop programs for android on, and well I would be only able to create the "Hello World" starter program and this project seems a slight bit more complicated. But what I can bring to the table is real world experience in testing and using the program day in and day out, a number of already existing Microsoft Access Databases ranging from Complex to Simple that I use every day. Really a program that can run Microsoft Access Tables on Android would be really useful to me and I am willing to do anything to help make this happen.
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Here we go:
I use a number of Microsoft Access Databases for my work, and each one is intensely coded and designed and basically run like actual programs. What I am looking for is to be able to take these databases with me. Now understanding that Microsoft and Android are two completely different beasts, what I really am looking for is the ability to take the tables (I use all Back-end database so all my tables are in a completely separate file then all my forms, queries, and reports) and the data with me and be able to run them in a program on Android that keeps the relationships and fields and all of that sort of stuff.
Now what would be great is the ability to use forms (even if special forms for android need to be made), run queries, and even be able to run reports and print as PDFs.
now I know how to code in VBA, hence the extensive coding I have done in Access, so anybody willing to WORK WITH in creating an Android Program to basically be an extension of Microsoft Access please contact me. Please not I use the words WORK WITH loosely, while I am trying to learn how to Program for Android, I currently do not have a computer that I can use to develop programs for android on, and well I would be only able to create the "Hello World" starter program and this project seems a slight bit more complicated. But what I can bring to the table is real world experience in testing and using the program day in and day out, a number of already existing Microsoft Access Databases ranging from Complex to Simple that I use every day. Really a program that can run Microsoft Access Tables on Android would be really useful to me and I am willing to do anything to help make this happen.
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I think we must have the same job
Android utilizes an sqlite database engine and it looks like sqlite already offers a conversion utility HERE. The real question would be how to get the data in and out of the phone. Regarding forms, they definitely would need to be custom built.
Thanks this is deffenetly a start, From what I can tell this This Looks to be the most promising, It looks like all you would have to do is put a MS Access Database file on your SD CARD and have a program access it. That way you copy it back and forth. Unfortunately it doesn't support Access 2003, but I can save down. I also got a lot of learning to do in programing Java programs.
Forms would be as simply as making a program, this is great thanks much
kronos82 said:
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I use a number of Microsoft Access Databases for my work, and each one is intensely coded and designed and basically run like actual programs. What I am looking for is to be able to take these databases with me....
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I would like to say, "yes, please!" to this idea. I currently use Smart List to Go (the descendant of ThinkDB) on my Palm TX. The TX is dying, and I've been shopping for a replacement. HanDBase exists for the iPhone, but I don't want an iPhone. So I've been focused on WinMo - not by choice as much as by necessity.
And android option would be very welcome around my computers.
benmyers2941 said:
I think we must have the same job
Android utilizes an sqlite database engine and it looks like sqlite already offers a conversion utility HERE. The real question would be how to get the data in and out of the phone. Regarding forms, they definitely would need to be custom built.
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androids sqlite its for applications to access and store data using java code.
try the pocket office app
Freedomcaller said:
androids sqlite its for applications to access and store data using java code.
try the pocket office app
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Exactly and we're talking about creating an app that would enable manipulation of an sqlite database. Essentially all that would be needed would be to create a ui framework wrapper for the existing api in android. Not the least monumental task I've heard of an individual taking on but not the most either.
The versions of pocket office that I've seen for android do not currently support Access databases as far as I'm aware. If I'm wrong could you post a link and save everyone some trouble?
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Thanks this is deffenetly a start, From what I can tell this looks to be the most promising, It looks like all you would have to do is put a MS Access Database file on your SD CARD and have a program access it. That way you copy it back and forth. Unfortunately it doesn't support Access 2003, but I can save down. I also got a lot of learning to do in programing Java programs.
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Jackcess library is now patched to support android (will be in 1.2.2 release). Also seems to support 2000, 2003 and 2007 formats now.
Works great for me.
View jackcess site. Couldn't find anything on support for android. I'm using htc desire and would really like to find program to view ms access file. Can you tell me how you do it?
As I remember reading worked as on PC, while writing had some problems.
This forum prevents me from linking directly, but if you click tracker/patches on Jackcess project, check Android Compatibility Fix - ID: 3101578
The changes are in trunk and will be in the 1.2.2 release. I've added some
notes which will eventually make it to the FAQ page on the website
detailing the compatibility steps:
- Set the system property "com.healthmarketscience.jackcess.broken
Nio=true"
- Set the system property "com.healthmarketscience.jackcess.resour
cePath=res/raw/"
- Copy the *.txt, *.mdb, and *.accdb files from the
"com/healthmarketscience/jackcess/" directory in the Jackcess jar to the
"/res/raw" Android application directory.
- Before executing any Jackcess code, set the current Thread's context
classloader, e.g.
"Thread.currentThread().setContextClassLoader(Database.class.getClassLoader())".
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Until this version (1.2.2) is released you need to build lib yourself.
You also need commons-lang and commons-logging from apache commons.
Before you use Jackcess in Android code, you set
Thread.currentThread().setContextClassLoader(
getClass().getClassLoader());
System.setProperty(
"com.healthmarketscience.jackcess.brokenNio",
"true");
System.setProperty(
"com.healthmarketscience.jackcess.resourcePath",
"res/raw/");
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and copy those resource files to res/raw
Then you can work as on PC, for example open /sdcard/yourprogram/file.mdb
Jackcess has no GUI, it's a library to read/write access files.
Getting an Access file into Android
I keep a lot of information on a Psion Revo, which has just turned its face to the wall and is giving up the ghost, and have always backed the information up on to my pc as an Access file. It looks easier to get this into a format acceptable to Android by converting the Access .mbx file into an Excel .xls file. This can be searched readily by Column and Values. Maybe this deals with too simple a need for most enquirers to the forum, but if it helps somebody then so much the better.
hi all i have beenlooking for something the same for some time now and just the other day i came accross this site cellica.com
the android app is free and the desktop application has a 5 day trial period or its $50 to buy it works great the only thing you can not do is create a report from the phone
i have emailed support team and they said they will be adding it on in the future.
Any Updates???
I currently build and use databases in MS Access and was wondering if there are any updates on this topic now that Tablets are in use now. Looking to get the Motorola Xoom (2nd version) in the future, but would love to be able to use a program that I would be able to access my MS Access databases while "on-the-go".
Anyone? This would be huge (I believe), since we now have tablets.
Thanks a bunch,
~Kilch~
Access to MS Access by Android
Hi,
I'm also looking to get on-the-go access to my Access databases on my Android HTC Tattoo.
The file is on it, I just need a tool to access it in read-only / search mode, but judging from the previous comments, there doesn't seem to be an oversupply in applications.
The "convert to Excel format" may be OK for me. I want to use a 3 language Access DB (dictionary) on my phone, so I'll try the Excel solution.
It would be nice if we had an ACCESS reader though...
John
Panacea Database
I know XDA frowns upon excessively hawking your own products here, but I do seem to be directly answering more than one of the reply questions, it just happens that the answer is an application my company released.
The Panacea Database application can handle Access from Access 2000 to Access 2007. It has also worked so far on every Access 2010 database we've tested, and we've received no complaints in that department yet. We release updates from time to time as we improve its functionality and features, often guided in our priorities by user e-mail and market comments. Our next update will be focused on improving screen layout for a variety of Android devices - from small QVGA smartphones, to large WXGA tablets. After that we may move onto other functionality.
In the interest of fairness, I'll point out arafa1209's post. He mentions Celicca Database, which is the only other application that I know of that deals with Access databases on Android. It has features Panacea does not have (yet) - ability to work with forms, ability to create and modify databases, ability to connect to your PC etc. Like us, they also send out updates improving their app regularly. So you can compare the apps, and use which one fits your needs better (or use both). If anyone knows of any others they can post here as well, but these are the only two I know of currently.
Just tried Panacea. Although it is more basic and annoyingly doesn't remember the last files you'be opened necessitating finding the file each time you open the app I prefer it for the simple reason you don't have to convert the Access database to another format.
amwebby said:
doesn't remember the last files you'be opened necessitating finding the file each time you open the app
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If you update the app, this should be fixed, the last version should have this feature.
Got the update last week. Certainly goes a long way to making it more user-friendly. Keep up the great work!
Since the last update it seems to be broken. Although it remembers the last database I cannot open a table within any database.
Edit: It appears the file was corrupted. Loaded a new file and all working again.
Any news in this topic.
I tried panacea Database, works fine. But not very effective. Searching data is a must for me however I didnt manage to find a search option. When I search for tables, it cant even locate the tables by names.
To some, this might seem worthless to look into but, I have searched this possiblity and I haven't been able to get any results that help.
What I am trying to do is take a program that I had on my Xperia WM device and get it to run on the Nexus One.
To run the program(in WM), there is a folder that you drop into the root of your SD card and then create a shortcut to the .exe file which, on WM, goes in your start menu.
( I mentioned the above to explain that it is not installed by a .cab file, if it helps any)
Anyone know if it is possible to run this program on Android?
Thank you all in advance for your time
not possible and I doubt there are any virtualization options on android. you are out of luck my friend.
Someone would have to port Wine to Android.
What program are you talking about? Maybe there already is a similar one for Android.
Not just a regular version of wine, but a windows ce version
Would be cool but I don't see it happening anytime soon
I don't see it happening ever. Microsoft is already ditching WM for the WP7S and I doubt anyone cares enough to work on such an app.
Short answer: No.
However, if it was made with .NET and Koush finishes the Mono port then there is a chance that the base functionality can be abstracted and an Android version could more or less be easily created. But that's a lot of "if"s going on and someone would still be taking the time to port any UI layers.
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I've been searching for .XAP decompiler/disAssembler (to do reverse engineer) for phone 8 xap files. I've seen that the new .xap files are not longer simple .zip/.rar files. They have something more.
In short I'm asking something similar to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1443692 for phone 8 . Does anyone know any (free) tool which can help me out ?
Could you please attache XAP? I'll investigate it.
Sure
Please see the attachment.
It appears MS have encrypted XAPs now - this has a PlayReady DRM header:
Code:
<WRMHEADER xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/DRM/2007/03/PlayReadyHeader" version="4.0.0.0"><DATA><PROTECTINFO><KEYLEN>16</KEYLEN><ALGID>AESCTR</ALGID></PROTECTINFO><KID>w3i0edJP7EOqQ6aQzdAoSQ==</KID><LA_URL>http://microsoft.com/</LA_URL><CUSTOMATTRIBUTES xmlns=""><S>9FcV5qmfIsMc+X2MVmX3Hw==</S><KGV>0</KGV></CUSTOMATTRIBUTES><CHECKSUM>Hu3+fizBvKU=</CHECKSUM></DATA></WRMHEADER>
So, does it mean I'll never be able to decompile any .xap ?
XAPs downloaded from the Marketplace are encrypted starting sometime in summer last year. That was also the time when devices that had not installed the WP7.5 update lost access to the Marketplace.
So unless you know the decryption key no: you won't be able to decompile XAP files downloaded from the Marketplace. As for XAPs you get from a Dev directly or created yourself - those should still be in the same ZIP-Format as before.
if we get admin access on the phone we can make the phone to decompile it for us and then make an unencrypted version of the .xap
StevieBallz said:
XAPs downloaded from the Marketplace are encrypted starting sometime in summer last year. That was also the time when devices that had not installed the WP7.5 update lost access to the Marketplace.
So unless you know the decryption key no: you won't be able to decompile XAP files downloaded from the Marketplace. As for XAPs you get from a Dev directly or created yourself - those should still be in the same ZIP-Format as before.
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Does anybody developed some hack to see content of .xap files which are from market place ? if yes, where can I get it ?
ellokomen said:
if we get admin access on the phone we can make the phone to decompile it for us and then make an unencrypted version of the .xap
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And how can I get admin permission on my phone win 8 phone ? In other words, is it possible to get admin permission on win 8 mobile ?
@shek007
WP8 is much more secure than WP7. So it will take much time or never to hack the OS.
Regarding the xap decompile, it seems you are insisting on 'hacking'. That is a bad behaviour, trying to steal other's logic/data If it's your's or friend's .xap, then you'll get access to the code. Otherwise you have no right to decompile the code if it's not yours or the others didn't provide you access.
Anyway, you got the answer back then: no, it won't work.
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And how can I get admin permission on my phone win 8 phone ? In other words, is it possible to get admin permission on win 8 mobile ?
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1. No one knows what "win 8 phone" and "win 8 mobile" are. Never heard of those.
2. Go somewhere else to discuss theft.
narrowing the subject to "theft" is not appropriate as when one wants to make out the most of some applications.
Examples are: Decompile the Field Test app from nokia to see the internal API calls to the radio module in order to obtain RF related data, such as cell ID, MCC+MNC, Ec/Lo etc..
using this API calls we can make Apps for RF field engineers to test the network performance and signal levels using the Lumia phone.
This functionality is well known on others smartphones but lacking in Windows Phone platform so far.
Another example will be using multiple whatsapp accounts in the same phone ( another functionality from other mobile platform missing in WP)
As far as I understood the security architecture not just any App would be able to access those APIs even if it knew about them. It requires special permissions and I would guess that at the moment those are not available with a regular Developer Unlock.
As for decrypting the file or gaining access to the phone and extracting the data from there: WP8 security has not yet been broken. There might be people working on it but for now we know of no way to do it.
StevieBallz said:
As far as I understood the security architecture not just any App would be able to access those APIs even if it knew about them. It requires special permissions and I would guess that at the moment those are not available with a regular Developer Unlock.
As for decrypting the file or gaining access to the phone and extracting the data from there: WP8 security has not yet been broken. There might be people working on it but for now we know of no way to do it.
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Idk if you guys know about this website... [http]://xapapp[dot]blogspot.com/
this guys does exactly what the OP asked. If m wrong then please correct me
I guess I'll have to wait until I can learn about this
Btw, I never had intention to hack/theft others app..
tai4de2 said:
1. No one knows what "win 8 phone" and "win 8 mobile" are. Never heard of those.
2. Go somewhere else to discuss theft.
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1. Yes. No one knows what win 8 phone is.
That is why YOU are on this forum thread., because is called just like that. "Windows Phone 8" looks similar to windows 8 phone. Or not.
2. " Windows Phone 8 Development and Hacking>> Windows Phone 8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting" is the name of this thread. So, where else could discuss hacking windows 8 apps.
You just needed to post something.
I just needed to reply (two years later), so I joined to forum. :laugh:
BTW are there any new tools for decompile xap files?
Please don't necropost!
Posting here rather in a PM in the hopes that others will see and remember...
You just posted in a 22-month-inactive thread. This violates a near-universal guideline (sometimes rule) of online forums: do not post in dead threads (common called "necroposting"). Your post added nothing of value and effectively constitutes spam, as it brings a thoroughly outdated thread to the top of the forum list. It's much better to create a new thread (linking the old one, if you feel that will help) as then people who read earlier posts in the thread but don't notice the datestamps won't be seeing stuff that is years out of date.
While I agree that the person you responded to was being needlessly pedantic, it does seriously annoy some members of the community to have people screw up the name of the OS. Win8 and WP8 have about as much in common as Mac OS X and iOS; that doesn't mean it's reasonable to say an iPhone runs "Phone OS X". The fact that there existed a legacy (and *very* different) OS called Windows Mobile (or WinMo), and that people routinely seem to think that WP is just the continuation of WinMo (it's really, really not), is a large part of why some folks stomp on people who use the wrong name for the OS.
Decompiling apps is easy. Breaking PlayReady DRM is really, really hard. There's no decompiler anywhere I know of that can take a DRMed XAP and decompile it. You'll have to get the app without DRM encryption if you want to decompile it.
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