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S-OFF Advantages ?

Hi,
what are the benifits of having s-off ? could someone tell me briefly ?
i can flash radio, rom, boot all without s-off so what is the key feature?
I dont need to change my cid cause i have the international One so do i need it ?
Can i flash hboot with s-off without relocking bootloader ??
thanks

B-Man2005 said:
Hi,
what are the benifits of having s-off ? could someone tell me briefly ?
i can flash radio, rom, boot all without s-off so what is the key feature?
I dont need to change my cid cause i have the international One so do i need it ?
Can i flash hboot with s-off without relocking bootloader ??
thanks
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Yes, no need to relock bootloader.
One of the advantage is that you can ruu/flash firmwares not specifically not for your device.
Btw you need super cid if you want to ruu firmwares from other carriers.
Sent from my HTC One

Thug_4_Life said:
Yes, no need to relock bootloader.
One of the advantage is that you can ruu/flash firmwares not specifically not for your device.
Btw you need super cid if you want to ruu firmwares from other carriers.
Sent from my HTC One
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"Yes, no need to relock bootloader."
thats enough for me ... thats good ... i hate relocking it when flashing hboot

B-Man2005 said:
Hi,
what are the benifits of having s-off ? could someone tell me briefly ?
i can flash radio, rom, boot all without s-off so what is the key feature?
I dont need to change my cid cause i have the international One so do i need it ?
Can i flash hboot with s-off without relocking bootloader ??
thanks
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I can think of two benefit.
The first one is receiving updates. I give the real example of the htc One X. When htc started rolling out the 4.1 update, very few CIDs received the update at first. others couldn't use updated custom roms, because the new rom required the new firmware, and everyone had to wait for very long (Literally months) until the firmware for their cid was released via ota (Even those using an international one x)
With S-off, as soon as someone receives the update, you can flash their updated firmware/hboot, and then update to the latest version using a custom rom or official RUU.
The other benefit that I would imagine is to be able to use the ROMs for the Google Edition of the htc One, which I guess would require a specific firmware or hboot, that we can flash with the s-off.

Shu. said:
I can think of two benefit.
The first one is receiving updates. I give the real example of the htc One X. When htc started rolling out the 4.1 update, very few CIDs received the update at first. others couldn't use updated custom roms, because the new rom required the new firmware, and everyone had to wait for very long (Literally months) until the firmware for their cid was released via ota (Even those using an international one x)
With S-off, as soon as someone receives the update, you can flash their updated firmware/hboot, and then update to the latest version using a custom rom or official RUU.
The other benefit that I would imagine is to be able to use the ROMs for the Google Edition of the htc One, which I guess would require a specific firmware or hboot, that we can flash with the s-off.
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no need for google edition ... no need for changing cid or flashing ruu´s
i always install renovate or mikes revolution hd and they always have the newest bases at first ...
so ... flashing hboot without relocking is benefit enough for me
thanks guys

With S-OFF you can also flash a custom splashscreens (the screen right before the bootanimation)
See: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2318987

[Q] going to stock fail... need 2.24.401.1 nandroid

I got myself in a bit of a dead zone here.
I have my HTC one. Its HTC__001 WWE Europe. It OTA upgraded to 2.24.401.1.
When I saw that you can convert to a GPE I really wanted to check it out specially after users reported success in getting OTA updates. But I quickly realized I needed S-Off and thats not available yet.
I decided to at least take it to a test drive with ARHD GPE 3.0. I downloaded the latest RUU for my device (1.28.401.7) thinking I would need that to get back to stock. I went and unlocked the bootloader at HTC dev. Flashed CWM recovery and flashed ARHD GPE 3.0. Played around with it for a bit and now when I needed to go back to stock.
RUU.exe file got stuck at updating signature then returned 155 unknown. I realized maybe its attempting to downgrade the bootloader so i looked around for a 2.24.401.1 RUU but its not available yet.
I looked at Nandroid backups and found 1.28.401.7 HTC__001 but its UK unbranded. When I restored this version it loaded up but my touch screen didnt work at all. I flashed back ARHD to get touch capability back.
So my question is... Any chance anyone can nandroid backup the stock 2.24.401.1 i need? How can I go to stock now? Am I stuck with custom roms untill atleast s-off or HTC decides 2.24.401.1 RUU should be made available?
Thanks!

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Are you s off?? Downgrade your hboot to 1.44 and then flash the ruu for your device....
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No unfortunately im s-on... Funny how being a good boy and being s-on HTC rewards me with no option to go back to stock...
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LOL............ I am in same postion . want to go back to stock for updates but cant !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2224752 ... Flash ROM, install stock recovery, relock bootloader, done. The official firmware will be about soon no doubt so you will be able to fastboot it and have the newest base, stock and all before HTC release it in whatever region.
Obviously you'll need S-Off for Hboot 1.54 if/when it happens in order to remove the tampered flag and change relocked back to locked but what I mentioned above is the closest you'll get without being able to run an RUU.

AllAboutTheCore said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2224752 ... Flash ROM, install stock recovery, relock bootloader, done. The official firmware will be about soon no doubt so you will be able to fastboot it and have the newest base, stock and all before HTC release it in whatever region.
Obviously you'll need S-Off for Hboot 1.54 if/when it happens in order to remove the tampered flag and change relocked back to locked but what I mentioned above is the closest you'll get without being able to run an RUU.
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You cant s-off on hboot 154 yet. Unless I am mistaken.
Like op says we need a nandroid of firmware think that's only way until ruu is releasee ; (
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ipmanwck said:
You cant s-off on hboot 154 yet. Unless I am mistaken.
Like op says we need a nandroid of firmware think that's only way until ruu is releasee ; (
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2 things:
1) I'll quote what I said, I never said S-Off was available .. "Obviously you'll need S-Off for Hboot 1.54 if/when it happens"
2) What I said above for going to stock is a way of doing it, a Nandroid is not the only way.

AllAboutTheCore said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2224752 ... Flash ROM, install stock recovery, relock bootloader, done. The official firmware will be about soon no doubt so you will be able to fastboot it and have the newest base, stock and all before HTC release it in whatever region.
Obviously you'll need S-Off for Hboot 1.54 if/when it happens in order to remove the tampered flag and change relocked back to locked but what I mentioned above is the closest you'll get without being able to run an RUU.
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I actually did this and Im running it right now without problems...
But Im not sure id be getting OTAs as the bootloader main ver still says 2.24.401.1 and not 2.24.401.8. I dont think Mike made a 2.24.401.1 available.
Its a bit disappointing. Im fine with having my bootloader tampered and relocked and s-on as long as I got stock running like it should be. i dont understand why HTC gives you the option to unlock ur bootloader to play around with custom firmware but not allow you to go back to stock. im guessing the RUU is on the way but I have my doubts... Just like s-off.
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ossman said:
I actually did this and Im running it right now without problems...
But Im not sure id be getting OTAs as the bootloader main ver still says 2.24.401.1 and not 2.24.401.8. I dont think Mike made a 2.24.401.1 available.
Its a bit disappointing. Im fine with having my bootloader tampered and relocked and s-on as long as I got stock running like it should be. i dont understand why HTC gives you the option to unlock ur bootloader to play around with custom firmware but not allow you to go back to stock. im guessing the RUU is on the way but I have my doubts... Just like s-off.
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Nah, the stock firmware for 2.24.401.8 is not available yet, only a customised one which would require S-Off anyway. The method I mentioned is the only way at the moment to get as close to stock as possible without being able to go S-Off and flash an older RUU. When Mike gets hold of the stock firmware to post, I'm sure he will ... I can't see any 2.24 RUU's being available seeing that HTC are pushing for a 4.3 release by the end of September, so I'd wait anyways, unless you need to return your device for warranty purposes of course.
As for you getting OTA updates ... I haven't installed the .8 ROM but it shouldn't affect it as the base you are on is still an older base than what you'd be trying to update to but I'm not 100% on that as I haven't flashed it as my device is away for repair lol. I would imagine that the 2.24.401.8 firmware would be about soon enough and then you would be able to revert to stock with the newest base but obviously as you said yourself, without S-Off you wouldn't be able to wipe any trace of you flashing and modding.
I think HTC only allow you to unlock your bootloader because they can void so many warranties that way and bill for repairs lol ... Maybe I'm being cynical but I do agree that they could provide a stock RUU for people to return to stock, without all the hassle of S-Off or waiting months before any suitable RUU is available but sometimes you have to just suck it up and live with what we have lol

ossman said:
I got myself in a bit of a dead zone here.
I have my HTC one. Its HTC__001 WWE Europe. It OTA upgraded to 2.24.401.1.
When I saw that you can convert to a GPE I really wanted to check it out specially after users reported success in getting OTA updates. But I quickly realized I needed S-Off and thats not available yet.
I decided to at least take it to a test drive with ARHD GPE 3.0. I downloaded the latest RUU for my device (1.28.401.7) thinking I would need that to get back to stock. I went and unlocked the bootloader at HTC dev. Flashed CWM recovery and flashed ARHD GPE 3.0. Played around with it for a bit and now when I needed to go back to stock.
RUU.exe file got stuck at updating signature then returned 155 unknown. I realized maybe its attempting to downgrade the bootloader so i looked around for a 2.24.401.1 RUU but its not available yet.
I looked at Nandroid backups and found 1.28.401.7 HTC__001 but its UK unbranded. When I restored this version it loaded up but my touch screen didnt work at all. I flashed back ARHD to get touch capability back.
So my question is... Any chance anyone can nandroid backup the stock 2.24.401.1 i need? How can I go to stock now? Am I stuck with custom roms untill atleast s-off or HTC decides 2.24.401.1 RUU should be made available?
Thanks!
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i got an nandroid backup for you fully stock unrooted : https://mega.co.nz/#!AUZGkKwC!EAfhUXYAgjpAR42jGzG_mhzWJjwcs1j7R_tm_HPMDAo

Google Play Edition RUU flash

Hi all, do I need to be S-OFF to flash the GPe RUU? Or do I need only unlocked bootloader?
The problem is, i'm on 4.2.2 WWE ROM full stock, and i noticed that, since revone doesn't work with HBoot 1.54, the only thing i can do is unlocking the bootloader via HTCdev.
Thanks to all will answer my question.
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You need to be S-OFF to flash the full conversion RUU, but you can flash custom GPe ROMs if you want

EddyOS said:
You need to be S-OFF to flash the full conversion RUU, but you can flash custom GPe ROMs if you want
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Does the full conversion allow the user to receive OTA updates from google? If so is there a guide for this somewhere? Currently running a rom myself and s-on. Don't want to muck anything up but it would be worth it if I could flash and then just permanently leave it be going forward.

Yes it does, although I downloaded it ans flashed it manually through the stock recovery as I cba to wait on Google to push it when I was running the GPe RUU last week

S-OFF
greenpants said:
Does the full conversion allow the user to receive OTA updates from google? If so is there a guide for this somewhere? Currently running a rom myself and s-on. Don't want to muck anything up but it would be worth it if I could flash and then just permanently leave it be going forward.
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Forget it, if you are not S-OFF you cannot do it. Once a phone is upgraded to hboot 1.54 and has not been S-OFF
before the upgrade is stuck.
CC

cc999 said:
Forget it, if you are not S-OFF you cannot do it. Once a phone is upgraded to hboot 1.54 and has not been S-OFF
before the upgrade is stuck.
CC
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Last check my HBoot was 1.4x
I got the phone last Friday then rooted and switch to Bigxie GP rom (ARHD sticks on boot) the day after.
I would like to get OTA updates so I don't have to manually grab everything and lose my data re-locking/unlocking bootloader each time when I do firmware updates (which I realize I will also need S-OFF for). I found the RUU guide so I may eventually go that route presuming the memory of my HBoot is correct...

OK
greenpants said:
Last check my HBoot was 1.4x
I got the phone last Friday then rooted and switch to Bigxie GP rom (ARHD sticks on boot) the day after.
I would like to get OTA updates so I don't have to manually grab everything and lose my data re-locking/unlocking bootloader each time when I do firmware updates (which I realize I will also need S-OFF for). I found the RUU guide so I may eventually go that route presuming the memory of my HBoot is correct...
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OK then you are on 1.44 I would follow procedure for S-OFF.
With S-OFF you can do just about any flashing you want and you wil never
lose the S-OFF status. Once you gain S-OFF DO NOT RETURN to S-ON.
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[Q] about the Stock Rom that came with my phone

i have several issues that i want anyone to clarify please:
1- my phone is HTC ONE M7u with MID PN701000, But the CID is HTC_BS001 wich i've known that this CID is for the developer edition version
and my phone is NOT a developer edition, and i don't know what is the proper stock rom for my phone since i've installed custom recovery and custom rom and i want to get back to 100% stock
tip: the phone downloaded this OTA once i opened the phone for the first time
(( OTA_M7_UL_JB_50_BrightstarUS_WWE_1.29.1540.17-1.29.1540.16_R_release_322965_signedanlz8jm3dy4gzqgi ))
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2- about the S-off and S-on, if i have S-off and i reverted to 100% stock rom and recovery will this prevent the phone from updating to 4.3 via OTA ?
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3- can i execute S-off while using custom Rom ? or i have to be stock ???
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4- i tried to download some stock Ruu.exe from (Bugsylawson "which is unavailable now,htc1guru and androidruu.com) but i've never been able to complete the download or even pass 30% and i don't know why..is there any website other than those that supports resuming !!
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thank you guys

Wait, if your phone is an M7u, there is a prob, because the MID and the CID of this version aren't right.
So, are you S-OFFed or you're S-ON?
If you're s-off you can revert back to 100% stock and get the ota update by HTC

yes it's M7UL and i didn't S-off the phone yet

can anyone provide help please

Which hboot you have?? You can do the s-off??
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1.44 can i do s_off on a custom rom or it doesn't matter at all?
Y

MF88 said:
1.44 can i do s_off on a custom rom or it doesn't matter at all?
Y
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You can acheive the S-OFF.
Do it

[Q] Developer Edition flashed to GPE, back to Stock?

I know, this question is asked a lot but I haven't been able to find any threads that reflect my exact situation so please hear me out!
I have a Developer Edition from launch and recently wanted to try out making it a Google Play Edition, so I did that.
Got S-Off, unlocked, rooted, flashed with the GPE RUU
However I find myself missing the camera features and now that 4.3 is out and with rumors of Sense 5.5 I'd like to go back to Sense
Here's where I'm confused: My custom recovery is gone since flashing the RUU and my bootloader now says that it's locked, even though it's a Developer Edition. I understand that the Google Play Edition doesn't come with an unlocked bootloader so my assumption is that the RUU simply resets it.
Here's my tl;dr version of the question: Do I need to go through the whole unlocking process to go back to sense? Can I just flash the RUU for the Developer Edition and automatically get my unlocked bootloader back? I didn't change the CID or any of that, all I did was flash the RUU.
Thanks for any help!!
Edit: The only thing truly confusing me is the fact that the bootloader got locked (or so that's what is says)

docdoc518 said:
I know, this question is asked a lot but I haven't been able to find any threads that reflect my exact situation so please hear me out!
I have a Developer Edition from launch and recently wanted to try out making it a Google Play Edition, so I did that.
Got S-Off, unlocked, rooted, flashed with the GPE RUU
However I find myself missing the camera features and now that 4.3 is out and with rumors of Sense 5.5 I'd like to go back to Sense
Here's where I'm confused: My custom recovery is gone since flashing the RUU and my bootloader now says that it's locked, even though it's a Developer Edition. I understand that the Google Play Edition doesn't come with an unlocked bootloader so my assumption is that the RUU simply resets it.
Here's my tl;dr version of the question: Do I need to go through the whole unlocking process to go back to sense? Can I just flash the RUU for the Developer Edition and automatically get my unlocked bootloader back? I didn't change the CID or any of that, all I did was flash the RUU.
Thanks for any help!!
Edit: The only thing truly confusing me is the fact that the bootloader got locked (or so that's what is says)
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Do you still have s-off? Then you can flash a dev edition RUU to get back sense.. If you want to keep s-off, flash a 4.1.2 RUU, get s-off and then ota update to the latest version.
When you flash the dev RUU, you'll get back your unlocked bootloader.
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n1234d said:
Do you still have s-off? Then you can flash a dev edition RUU to get back sense.. If you want to keep s-off, flash a 4.1.2 RUU, get s-off and then ota update to the latest version.
When you flash the dev RUU, you'll get back your unlocked bootloader.
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I do still have s-off, if I flash the latest RUU for dev edition will I lose s-off? Will I lose it if I flash any RUU?
Just curious at this point.
and THANK YOU!

docdoc518 said:
I do still have s-off, if I flash the latest RUU for dev edition will I lose s-off? Will I lose it if I flash any RUU?
Just curious at this point.
and THANK YOU!
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Some say you lose s-off, some say you don't..Afaik, an RUU is the safest way to go back to s-on. So to be on the safer side get the dev edition RUU for a 4.1.2 base and flash it.. If you lose s-off use Revone, then ota update to the latest 3.xx base. This will also update your hboot to 1.55, so make sure you're s-off before upgrading, as 1.55 cannot be s-offed yet.
Ps: Always use the thanks button
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so as long as the you are s-off, you can ruu to any version even if you are at 1.54 hboot?
n1234d said:
Some say you lose s-off, some say you don't..Afaik, an RUU is the safest way to go back to s-on. So to be on the safer side get the dev edition RUU for a 4.1.2 base and flash it.. If you lose s-off use Revone, then ota update to the latest 3.xx base. This will also update your hboot to 1.55, so make sure you're s-off before upgrading, as 1.55 cannot be s-offed yet.
Ps: Always use the thanks button
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You need to downgrade the HBOOT first following post #2 in the GPe conversion thread, and then flash the RUU. You will NOT lose S-OFF but you will lose all data on the phone so back it up first

EddyOS said:
You need to downgrade the HBOOT first following post #2 in the GPe conversion thread, and then flash the RUU. You will NOT lose S-OFF but you will lose all data on the phone so back it up first
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So considering I'm S-Off with the GPE RUU flashed, hboot 1.54
Will the S-Off allow me to directly flash the 4.3 RUU exe from htcdev? Will I maintain S-Off?
I'm just a bit confused now as you guys somewhat told me the opposite things, I appreciate the help though, getting great information

docdoc518 said:
So considering I'm S-Off with the GPE RUU flashed, hboot 1.54
Will the S-Off allow me to directly flash the 4.3 RUU exe from htcdev? Will I maintain S-Off?
I'm just a bit confused now as you guys somewhat told me the opposite things, I appreciate the help though, getting great information
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Follow what eddy says, he's the man @eddy, how does the hboot version make a difference??
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I'm not sure, here's what I found today...
I was running the leaked Sense 5.5 system dump and FW and wanted to go back to the 1.28.401.7 RUU so I could get the official update. Not an issue I thought as I'd just flash it and away I go as I'd done in the past when on hboot 1.54. It gave the 155 error about not being the right RUU even though I'm S-OFF. So I flashed the hboot in the GPe conversion thread #2 which put it back to 1.44 and the RUU worked fine so it must be something with the new 1.55 hboot that stops it working. I can't be certain but it worked for me

EddyOS said:
I'm not sure, here's what I found today...
I was running the leaked Sense 5.5 system dump and FW and wanted to go back to the 1.28.401.7 RUU so I could get the official update. Not an issue I thought as I'd just flash it and away I go as I'd done in the past when on hboot 1.54. It gave the 155 error about not being the right RUU even though I'm S-OFF. So I flashed the hboot in the GPe conversion thread #2 which put it back to 1.44 and the RUU worked fine so it must be something with the new 1.55 hboot that stops it working. I can't be certain but it worked for me
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Hmm, I have hboot 1.54 not 1.55, so it sounds like I may be able to flash right to 4.3 with the .exe (at least from what I understand)
If it is incompatible it should just give me an error, correct?
I'm willing to take the extra steps but if they're not totally necessary then I'd much prefer to just go down the simpler path
Also, I've got CID BS_US001, what are the benefits of changing it to supercid? Would I get OTAs such as the Sense 5.5 faster?
Hopefully I'm not being a pain, I'm trying my best to learn.

You should be fine on that HBOOT, just try it and if it works it works! If not, you'll get an error and then you just following the second post in the GPe conversion thread

docdoc518 said:
Hmm, I have hboot 1.54 not 1.55, so it sounds like I may be able to flash right to 4.3 with the .exe (at least from what I understand)
If it is incompatible it should just give me an error, correct?
I'm willing to take the extra steps but if they're not totally necessary then I'd much prefer to just go down the simpler path
Also, I've got CID BS_US001, what are the benefits of changing it to supercid? Would I get OTAs such as the Sense 5.5 faster?
Hopefully I'm not being a pain, I'm trying my best to learn.
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Yep, go ahead and try, if it gives you an error, post back.
AFAIK, the dev edition BS_US001 gets OTAs the quickest, so you could keep it at that. SuperCID will allow you to flash any RUU/OTA, even of a different region/MID/CID
Nope, you're not being a pain We're all trying to learn and help here

Good news, I tried flashing the 4.3 RUU exe from HTCDev and it wouldn't work so I just took the longer route and flashed 1.44 hboot, flashed stock 4.1 RUU and then exe flashed up to 4.3
So I'm back on Sense and I'm happy, the only thing that was a slight setback was my bootloader, for some reason it did not unlock after flashing the Brightstar RUU so I went through the process on HTC dev and reflashed the 4.3 RUU to get back the flashlight and other apps lost through the unlocking process. Maybe I should have unlocked it through fastboot while on the GPE ROM? Not sure, but either way I'm back on Sense, bootloader unlocked and S-Off maintained so a huge huge THANK YOU from me.
Now I'm just waiting for Sense 5.5!
You guys are awesome :good:

docdoc518 said:
Good news, I tried flashing the 4.3 RUU exe from HTCDev and it wouldn't work so I just took the longer route and flashed 1.44 hboot, flashed stock 4.1 RUU and then exe flashed up to 4.3
So I'm back on Sense and I'm happy, the only thing that was a slight setback was my bootloader, for some reason it did not unlock after flashing the Brightstar RUU so I went through the process on HTC dev and reflashed the 4.3 RUU to get back the flashlight and other apps lost through the unlocking process. Maybe I should have unlocked it through fastboot while on the GPE ROM? Not sure, but either way I'm back on Sense, bootloader unlocked and S-Off maintained so a huge huge THANK YOU from me.
Now I'm just waiting for Sense 5.5!
You guys are awesome :good:
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All you had to do was flash the HBOOT in post #2 of the GPe conversion thread and then the 4.3 RUU and you would have had the same result

EddyOS said:
All you had to do was flash the HBOOT in post #2 of the GPe conversion thread and then the 4.3 RUU and you would have had the same result
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Newbie move I suppose :angel: haha
I've been rooting and flashing ROMs on my Androids since the G1/Dream believe it or not, but with every new phone/manufacturer there's always new terminology and steps to be taken so I feel like I start over every single time, which honestly isn't much of a bad thing, keeps things exciting (even though HTC made the G1 but that was what feels like ages ago now)
Thanks again guys, it's hard not to feel intimidated but it's been an extremely pleasant experience learning from you. This is why xda is by far the best site you can find for these things.
Cheers