S-OFF Advantages ? - One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
what are the benifits of having s-off ? could someone tell me briefly ?
i can flash radio, rom, boot all without s-off so what is the key feature?
I dont need to change my cid cause i have the international One so do i need it ?
Can i flash hboot with s-off without relocking bootloader ??
thanks

B-Man2005 said:
Hi,
what are the benifits of having s-off ? could someone tell me briefly ?
i can flash radio, rom, boot all without s-off so what is the key feature?
I dont need to change my cid cause i have the international One so do i need it ?
Can i flash hboot with s-off without relocking bootloader ??
thanks
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Yes, no need to relock bootloader.
One of the advantage is that you can ruu/flash firmwares not specifically not for your device.
Btw you need super cid if you want to ruu firmwares from other carriers.
Sent from my HTC One

Thug_4_Life said:
Yes, no need to relock bootloader.
One of the advantage is that you can ruu/flash firmwares not specifically not for your device.
Btw you need super cid if you want to ruu firmwares from other carriers.
Sent from my HTC One
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"Yes, no need to relock bootloader."
thats enough for me ... thats good ... i hate relocking it when flashing hboot

B-Man2005 said:
Hi,
what are the benifits of having s-off ? could someone tell me briefly ?
i can flash radio, rom, boot all without s-off so what is the key feature?
I dont need to change my cid cause i have the international One so do i need it ?
Can i flash hboot with s-off without relocking bootloader ??
thanks
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I can think of two benefit.
The first one is receiving updates. I give the real example of the htc One X. When htc started rolling out the 4.1 update, very few CIDs received the update at first. others couldn't use updated custom roms, because the new rom required the new firmware, and everyone had to wait for very long (Literally months) until the firmware for their cid was released via ota (Even those using an international one x)
With S-off, as soon as someone receives the update, you can flash their updated firmware/hboot, and then update to the latest version using a custom rom or official RUU.
The other benefit that I would imagine is to be able to use the ROMs for the Google Edition of the htc One, which I guess would require a specific firmware or hboot, that we can flash with the s-off.

Shu. said:
I can think of two benefit.
The first one is receiving updates. I give the real example of the htc One X. When htc started rolling out the 4.1 update, very few CIDs received the update at first. others couldn't use updated custom roms, because the new rom required the new firmware, and everyone had to wait for very long (Literally months) until the firmware for their cid was released via ota (Even those using an international one x)
With S-off, as soon as someone receives the update, you can flash their updated firmware/hboot, and then update to the latest version using a custom rom or official RUU.
The other benefit that I would imagine is to be able to use the ROMs for the Google Edition of the htc One, which I guess would require a specific firmware or hboot, that we can flash with the s-off.
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no need for google edition ... no need for changing cid or flashing ruu´s
i always install renovate or mikes revolution hd and they always have the newest bases at first ...
so ... flashing hboot without relocking is benefit enough for me
thanks guys

With S-OFF you can also flash a custom splashscreens (the screen right before the bootanimation)
See: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2318987

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[Q] Looking for advice on how to proceed regarding root

Hey, I recently bought my HTC One and have been reading up on how to root etc. I'm looking for advice on how best to proceed. Currently my HTC one is running 4.1.2 with HBOOT 1.44.
Things seemed to have changed a bit since I last had a HTC (wildfire), now theres CID's, MID's, supercid and no goldcards. Things also seem a bit complicated compared to my SE Arc S, where you had one customization number and sony's software pulled the respective software.
At the moment, I want to be able to use root only apps (eg Titanium Backup) and update to the stock version of 4.2
Reading around, I've seen that rooting by unlocking the bootloader will block the OTA update to 4.2. Also, upgrading to 4.2 will update the HBOOT meaning that I won't be able to s-off. Even though, I currently don't need this, I don't want to update to the new HBOOT just in case.
My question is what would be the best way to get a stock rooted version of 4.2 without losing the ability to s-off?
Just looking for a bit of guidence, Thanks!
mike
I rooted to get 4.2 update bunch of custom roms already have them and there great roms I'm on viperone now but also have had revolution,trickdroid,cleanrom,ext all are stable don't need s off to flash but give it time and there will be an s off for 4.2.2
kasper1977 said:
I rooted to get 4.2 update bunch of custom roms already have them and there great roms I'm on viperone now but also have had revolution,trickdroid,cleanrom,ext all are stable don't need s off to flash but give it time and there will be an s off for 4.2.2
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My phone is on HBOOT 1.44, it can be s-off at the moment.
My question was how to get stock 4.2 with root access without upgrading to HBOOT 1.54?
S-off,
Unlock boot loader,
Change cid to HTC__001,
Lock boot loader,
Run RUU for European developers edition,
Update by OTA,
Unlock bootloader,
Flash custom recovery,
Root device.
You will be on stock 4.2.2, and rooted. You also won't have to worry about the hboot because once you have s off you don't lose it.
AT&T HTC One
GPe 4.3
CoryTallman said:
S-off,
Unlock boot loader,
Change cid to HTC__001,
Lock boot loader,
Run RUU for European developers edition,
Update by OTA,
Unlock bootloader,
Flash custom recovery,
Root device.
You will be on stock 4.2.2, and rooted. You also won't have to worry about the hboot because once you have s off you don't lose it.
AT&T HTC One
GPe 4.3
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Thanks for the reply
My cid is already HTC__001 (I bought it and it came with WWE ). Does that mean I can skip steps 2,3,4 and 5 in your list?
What is European developers edition?
Yes I suppose you can. WWE is world wide English. Which is what I believe comes on the developers editions. So you have HTC__001 already and have not received the ota? Like I said, if you want s off, get it before you upgrade. But if you don't need it you can upgrade without it and still root.
AT&T HTC One
GPe 4.3
CoryTallman said:
Yes I suppose you can. WWE is world wide English. Which is what I believe comes on the developers editions. So you have HTC__001 already and have not received the ota? Like I said, if you want s off, get it before you upgrade. But if you don't need it you can upgrade without it and still root.
AT&T HTC One
GPe 4.3
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What EU developer edition? I assume he has the UK version so his stock rom would be the "HTC_Europe" version. Need his CID and MID numbers to confirm. I agree that he should run the S-off process first thing if he wants it.
My CID is HTC__001, I don't know what the MID is. I don't think it's the developer edition, I bought it from a retailer not HTC directly and it's 32GB. My software version is .401 and the OTA to 4.2.2 is available to me, I haven't updated yet because I don't want to be stuck on HBOOT 1.54.
Then you can s-off, update, you will retain s-off on the new hboot, unlock boot loader, flash a custom recovery and root.
AT&T HTC One
GPe 4.3
CoryTallman said:
Then you can s-off, update, you will retain s-off on the new hboot, unlock boot loader, flash a custom recovery and root.
AT&T HTC One
GPe 4.3
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Thanks, if I unlock my bootloader with revone after s-off, is that exactly the same as doing it through htcdev?
fireice7 said:
Thanks, if I unlock my bootloader with revone after s-off, is that exactly the same as doing it through htcdev?
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Yes it is, with the added bonus of HTC not knowing you've done it!
EddyOS said:
Yes it is, with the added bonus of HTC not knowing you've done it!
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I guess another advantage is that your device doesn't get wiped on unlocking.

[Q] HTC One debranding

Hi all, just wondering if someone with some knowledge can help assist me debranding my HTC One. I came from Samsung devices, and knew the ins and outs of rooting, flashing roms etc, but HTC devices seems so over complicated after reading through various forums.
All I want to do is debrand my Vodafone HTC One, and install the international uk firmware, and be able to receive ota updates in future.
I have been reading about changing Ruu, changing CID, and im just baffled by everything, although slowly starting to gain some knowledge.
Please I would appreciate if someone could give me the correct procedure to do this, do I need to unlock the bootloader before doing it? Already registered on HTCDEV website, just havnt unlocked bootloader yet.
I have spent hours reading info, and my head is practically going round in circles lol.
What do you mean by debranding? Do you mean putting a custom Rom on it?
Edit: I missed a section of what you said. I believe you have to unlock the bootloader, turn security off, and get Super CID.
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Thank you, So I need to unlock bootloader, get s-off, then install supercid. Then all I do is install the international stock rom? and I will receive ota updates?
I believe so, but you must have the international stock recovery on too for the OTA updates to work.
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honda1979 said:
Hi all, just wondering if someone with some knowledge can help assist me debranding my HTC One. I came from Samsung devices, and knew the ins and outs of rooting, flashing roms etc, but HTC devices seems so over complicated after reading through various forums.
All I want to do is debrand my Vodafone HTC One, and install the international uk firmware, and be able to receive ota updates in future.
I have been reading about changing Ruu, changing CID, and im just baffled by everything, although slowly starting to gain some knowledge.
Please I would appreciate if someone could give me the correct procedure to do this, do I need to unlock the bootloader before doing it? Already registered on HTCDEV website, just havnt unlocked bootloader yet.
I have spent hours reading info, and my head is practically going round in circles lol.
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All the following is dependant on having an hboot of less than 1.54. If you are already on hboot 1.54, you will not yet be able to s-off and follow this process until an exploit is found for the 1.54 hboot. To check this, turn off your device and restart it whilst holding the volume down button. The information will be displayed.
1 Get S-Off http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314582
2 Install super cid : fastboot oem writecid 11111111
3 Run RUU 1.28.401.7 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2207874
4 Change cid to generic : fastboot oem writecid HTC__001
You will now receive ota updates to 2.24.401.1
honda1979 said:
Thank you, So I need to unlock bootloader, get s-off, then install supercid. Then all I do is install the international stock rom? and I will receive ota updates?
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Run revone, unlocked bootloader and s-off
change CID to HTC__001 or 11111111
run RUU for international M7 i would start with PN07IMG_M7_UL_JB_50_HTC_Europe_1.29.401.16_R_Radio_4A.14.3250.13_10.33.1150.01_release_318486_signed_2_4
once this is on the phone you should get all the OTA releases bringing you up to date.
bobsie41 said:
All the following is dependant on having an hboot of less than 1.54. If you are already on hboot 1.54, you will not yet be able to s-off and follow this process until an exploit is found for the 1.54 hboot. To check this, turn off your device and restart it whilst holding the volume down button. The information will be displayed.
1 Get S-Off http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314582
2 Install super cid : fastboot oem writecid 11111111
3 Run RUU 1.28.401.7 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2207874
4 Change cid to generic : fastboot oem writecid HTC__001
You will now receive ota updates to 2.24.401.1
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Thanks for that info mate. I just checked and im on hboot 1.54, which means I wont be able to do this at the moment. Was that RUU you state an exe file? I guess I don't have to root or install any custom recovery to do this? First I need to wait on an exploit for sboot 1.54 to get s-off. Also it might be easier for me going down the custom rom route?
honda1979 said:
Thanks for that info mate. I just checked and im on hboot 1.54, which means I wont be able to do this at the moment. Was that RUU you state an exe file? I guess I don't have to root or install any custom recovery to do this? First I need to wait on an exploit for sboot 1.54 to get s-off. Also it might be easier for me going down the custom rom route?
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Until s-off is achieved for hboot 1.54, your only choice is custom roms. This should be fine as you are already updated to the latest firmware through Vodafone.
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bobsie41 said:
Until s-off is achieved for hboot 1.54, your only choice is custom roms. This should be fine as you are already updated to the latest firmware through Vodafone.
Sent from my HTC One using xda premium
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Ok cheers. I thought that I needed to be S-Off before I could install any custom rom, but I could root and install custom recovery with s-on?
honda1979 said:
Ok cheers. I thought that I needed to be S-Off before I could install any custom rom, but I could root and install custom recovery with s-on?
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Yes
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bobsie41 said:
Yes
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Ok, now here goes lol. My understanding so far is that in order to install any stock ruu I must first get s-off. As im running stock Vodafone firmware, the CID must match this firmware. If I get s-off, I will be able to install any CID and stock rom, as long as they match one another. and as im on hboot 1.54 just now, supercid wont work yet, so s-off is a no no at the moment. I can still root and install a custom firmware though.

[Q] Where do I start?

So here's the deal: I bought a HTC ONE back when it was released and I've enjoyed every minute of it, I loved the stock rom - it was smooth and worked like a charm. I have a lot of experience with flashing ROMS, had quite a few HTC phones before this one, but so far haven't tried ANYTHING with the ONE.
I got the update to the latest Android and I noticed there's something about HBOOT 1.44 vs. 1.54 - I checked and I have the 4.2.2 ROM running HBOOT 1.54.
I really want to get into custom roms and start testing a few out; but I have no idea where to start.
Normally I'd pick a guide and work the steps but I'm hesitant now that I've read bits and pieces about this HBOOT thing - I'm not sure what I means, why people are bummed out because they have 1.54 (which I have).
So yeah, I have no idea where to start. Can somebody give me a rundown, some guidelines, what does HBOOT 1.54 mean for me, where do I start?
Thanks,
Michiel.
From what I've read, having HBOOT 1.54 basically means that you can't S-off your device (as this is only available for 1.44). This means that you won't have access to deeper customisation for your phone (flashing different firmware and changing CID). CID determines what region your phone belongs to so this translates to how early you can get official OTA's as some regions get updates earlier than others. Also, if you want to fully transform your phone into a Google Edition HTC One, this is only open to units with a specific CID.
As for firmware, not really clear on what the differences between firmwares are but you can still flash different radios which are a component of firmwares (thus getting some of the benefits of newer firmware anyway).
That being said, you can flash the whole range of custom ROMs and kernels available on these forums provided that you've unlocked your boot loader. Directions for this can be found on the HTC website.
If you want an optimised stock ROM, try ARHD Sense which is basically your stock ROM with many performance improvements (especially when it comes to signal). For more customisation on Sense, you can try ViperOne.
Honestly there are so many excellent ROMs here that you can easily lose days trying every single one. The Google Edition ROMs are excellent too.
Hope this helps!
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Thank you both for detailed replies! This helped me ease my mind on the HBOOT-thing. Thanks!
What no one mentioned is that S-off allows you to remove the ****Tampered**** flag from the boot loader.
With S-off you can lock the boot loader. (With S-on it will show Re-Locked)
With S-off you can flash any RUU to return to stock. Without it you can only flash RUU's that match your CID and are newer than your current firmware.
These may not be important to you, but they're good to know before you jump in.
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Michiel0211 said:
So here's the deal: I bought a HTC ONE back when it was released and I've enjoyed every minute of it, I loved the stock rom - it was smooth and worked like a charm. I have a lot of experience with flashing ROMS, had quite a few HTC phones before this one, but so far haven't tried ANYTHING with the ONE.
I got the update to the latest Android and I noticed there's something about HBOOT 1.44 vs. 1.54 - I checked and I have the 4.2.2 ROM running HBOOT 1.54.
I really want to get into custom roms and start testing a few out; but I have no idea where to start.
Normally I'd pick a guide and work the steps but I'm hesitant now that I've read bits and pieces about this HBOOT thing - I'm not sure what I means, why people are bummed out because they have 1.54 (which I have).
So yeah, I have no idea where to start. Can somebody give me a rundown, some guidelines, what does HBOOT 1.54 mean for me, where do I start?
Thanks,
Michiel.
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All you have to do is unlock your bootloader via htcdev.com (note, this will wipe your data) and then flash a custom recovery. You can use this tool http://d-h.st/mas to simplify the process.
CoryTallman said:
What no one mentioned is that S-off allows you to remove the ****Tampered**** flag from the boot loader.
With S-off you can lock the boot loader. (With S-on it will show Re-Locked)
With S-off you can flash any RUU to return to stock. Without it you can only flash RUU's that match your CID and are newer than your current firmware.
These may not be important to you, but they're good to know before you jump in.
Sent from my HTC One using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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Oh sweet I think I found something helpful. I just got my HTC one 6 days ago. I'm s-off so no tampered tag. Do I need to change my cid to flash any ruu? Do I need s-on to flash ruu's? I'm with Rogers in Canada. No RUU for me but there are ota's. Can I flash a different ruu and then the Rogers ota to bring be back to stock? I have s off can I leave it off so if the hboot gets updated by a future ota it will be ok? Thanks for any help.
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sixty_oz said:
Oh sweet I think I found something helpful. I just got my HTC one 6 days ago. I'm s-off so no tampered tag. Do I need to change my cid to flash any ruu? Do I need s-on to flash ruu's? I'm with Rogers in Canada. No RUU for me but there are ota's. Can I flash a different ruu and then the Rogers ota to bring be back to stock? I have s off can I leave it off so if the hboot gets updated by a future ota it will be ok? Thanks for any help.
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No matter what, you should stay s-off, it does not affect OTA's or RUU's in any way whatsoever. To flash any RUU, you need to be with a cid of 11111111
It's not possible for you to flash an ruu for something else and then flash the rogers ota I don't think

Hboot 1.60 S-Off?

Is it possible to get S-Off on the new lollipop hboot or do you have to downgrade to get it, then flash lollipop without hboot?
The only way to get s-off on newer hboots is to bite the bullet and pay $25 for Sunshine. If you are not s-off, you cannot downgrade hboots.
coal686 said:
The only way to get s-off on newer hboots is to bite the bullet and pay $25 for Sunshine. If you are not s-off, you cannot downgrade hboots.
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Sunshine doesn't support 1.60 yet
Does HTCDev not let you unlock anymore??
abdeviation said:
Does HTCDev not let you unlock anymore??
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HTC Dev unlock and s-off are 2 entirely different thing.
To answer your question HTC Dev still works.
BD619 said:
HTC Dev unlock and s-off are 2 entirely different thing.
To answer your question HTC Dev still works.
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Thanks for your response. I did a little reading and from what I gather, HTC unlock will let you flash a custom recovery and ROM but S-off will also let you flash a custom radio. So if I just wanted to flash one of the many custom ROMs available here, would going the HTC unlock route suffice?
abdeviation said:
Thanks for your response. I did a little reading and from what I gather, HTC unlock will let you flash a custom recovery and ROM but S-off will also let you flash a custom radio. So if I just wanted to flash one of the many custom ROMs available here, would going the HTC unlock route suffice?
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Most of the custom roms require you to be on the latest firmware for everything to work like it's supposed to.
You can flash any custom rom while s-on but if your firmware is out of date you may have problems (wifi, sms,calls, ect.)
BD619 said:
Most of the custom roms require you to be on the latest firmware for everything to work like it's supposed to.
You can flash any custom rom while s-on but if your firmware is out of date you may have problems (wifi, sms,calls, ect.)
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The Sunshine folks tweeted today that they are in the end phase of testing 3.0 and it should be released soon....Good News for those with hboot 1.60

The right way to obtain S-off with Lollipop

Hi to everybody. I am planning to buy an used M7 with 1.55 Hboot.
So I was planning to Unlock, Root and then S-Off with Rumrunner.
But when I do this how can I update the phone to Lollipop stock to flash a custom rom like Viper (I've red that I can't flash it if I am not in Lollipop stock)?
Or have I to do every OTA Updates, upgrade to stock Lollipop, than do Unlock, Root and S-Off by Sunshine?
I really do not understand, it's very difficult to find this information, I've red lots of posts but I am still confused!
Thank's a lot!
HarryCustom said:
Hi to everybody. I am planning to buy an used M7 with 1.55 Hboot.
So I was planning to Unlock, Root and then S-Off with Rumrunner.
But when I do this how can I update the phone to Lollipop stock to flash a custom rom like Viper (I've red that I can't flash it if I am not in Lollipop stock)?
Or have I to do every OTA Updates, upgrade to stock Lollipop, than do Unlock, Root and S-Off by Sunshine?
I really do not understand, it's very difficult to find this information, I've red lots of posts but I am still confused!
Thank's a lot!
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You should definitively try to s-off for free on hboot 1.55, better not to update the phone until you have achieved s-off.
Once s-off, you'll be able to update to anything you want using a ruu for example. Newer roms doesn't really requires lollipop OS but the firmware update that comes with it (7.xx.xxx.x)
You'll then update the firmware to a 7.xx.xxx.x version using a firmware.zip file or a full ruu.zip. Ask help when ready to flash the firmware to be sure you flash the right one as you can brick your phone if not done properly.
Also note that you don't need s-off to update your phone and flash a rom but its a good idea to achieve it now before updating. Its always easier to recover a bricked phone when its s-off but also remember its also easier to brick a s-off phone if you flash the wrong file so do not hesitate to ask questions before flashing, especially when flashing firmware files.
alray said:
Also note that you don't need s-off to update your phone and flash a rom but its a good idea to achieve it now before updating. Its always easier to recover a bricked phone when its s-off but also remember its also easier to brick a s-off phone if you flash the wrong file so do not hesitate to ask questions before flashing, especially when flashing firmware files.
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Thank you very much I think the phone is an HTC One M7 801e "U" version, so as I understand well, after S-Off, I have to find the right RUU, flash it and than flash my favourite rom!

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