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Hi,
what are the benifits of having s-off ? could someone tell me briefly ?
i can flash radio, rom, boot all without s-off so what is the key feature?
I dont need to change my cid cause i have the international One so do i need it ?
Can i flash hboot with s-off without relocking bootloader ??
thanks
B-Man2005 said:
Hi,
what are the benifits of having s-off ? could someone tell me briefly ?
i can flash radio, rom, boot all without s-off so what is the key feature?
I dont need to change my cid cause i have the international One so do i need it ?
Can i flash hboot with s-off without relocking bootloader ??
thanks
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Yes, no need to relock bootloader.
One of the advantage is that you can ruu/flash firmwares not specifically not for your device.
Btw you need super cid if you want to ruu firmwares from other carriers.
Sent from my HTC One
Thug_4_Life said:
Yes, no need to relock bootloader.
One of the advantage is that you can ruu/flash firmwares not specifically not for your device.
Btw you need super cid if you want to ruu firmwares from other carriers.
Sent from my HTC One
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"Yes, no need to relock bootloader."
thats enough for me ... thats good ... i hate relocking it when flashing hboot
B-Man2005 said:
Hi,
what are the benifits of having s-off ? could someone tell me briefly ?
i can flash radio, rom, boot all without s-off so what is the key feature?
I dont need to change my cid cause i have the international One so do i need it ?
Can i flash hboot with s-off without relocking bootloader ??
thanks
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I can think of two benefit.
The first one is receiving updates. I give the real example of the htc One X. When htc started rolling out the 4.1 update, very few CIDs received the update at first. others couldn't use updated custom roms, because the new rom required the new firmware, and everyone had to wait for very long (Literally months) until the firmware for their cid was released via ota (Even those using an international one x)
With S-off, as soon as someone receives the update, you can flash their updated firmware/hboot, and then update to the latest version using a custom rom or official RUU.
The other benefit that I would imagine is to be able to use the ROMs for the Google Edition of the htc One, which I guess would require a specific firmware or hboot, that we can flash with the s-off.
Shu. said:
I can think of two benefit.
The first one is receiving updates. I give the real example of the htc One X. When htc started rolling out the 4.1 update, very few CIDs received the update at first. others couldn't use updated custom roms, because the new rom required the new firmware, and everyone had to wait for very long (Literally months) until the firmware for their cid was released via ota (Even those using an international one x)
With S-off, as soon as someone receives the update, you can flash their updated firmware/hboot, and then update to the latest version using a custom rom or official RUU.
The other benefit that I would imagine is to be able to use the ROMs for the Google Edition of the htc One, which I guess would require a specific firmware or hboot, that we can flash with the s-off.
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no need for google edition ... no need for changing cid or flashing ruu´s
i always install renovate or mikes revolution hd and they always have the newest bases at first ...
so ... flashing hboot without relocking is benefit enough for me
thanks guys
With S-OFF you can also flash a custom splashscreens (the screen right before the bootanimation)
See: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2318987
I was just going to flash ARHD 3.1 GE which is 4.3 based.
Currently i'm unlocked/s-off (thanks to revone) with hboot 1.44 and RUU 1.29.401.16.
Do I even have to update firmware or does 1.29 based fw work with 4.3 correctly?
Basically i'm confused with these firmware packages: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2182823
Is flashing a 2.24.401.12 based firmware going to update hboot too? Does this one break touch in recoveries too?
Why the custom firmwares based on 2.17.401.1 RUU and why aren't there 2.24.401.12 based custom firmwares?
Hopefully someone can answer at least some of my questions :angel:
Thanks
_saiko said:
I was just going to flash ARHD 3.1 GE which is 4.3 based.
Currently i'm unlocked/s-off (thanks to revone) with hboot 1.44 and RUU 1.29.401.16.
Do I even have to update firmware or does 1.29 based fw work with 4.3 correctly?
Basically i'm confused with these firmware packages: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2182823
Is flashing a 2.24.401.12 based firmware going to update hboot too? Does this one break touch in recoveries too?
Why the custom firmwares based on 2.17.401.1 RUU and why aren't there 2.24.401.12 based custom firmwares?
Hopefully someone can answer at least some of my questions :angel:
Thanks
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Sounds like your a noob, so don't upgrade your hboot.
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gee thanks, you answered everything
I want to keep hboot 1.44, so it's fairly a simple question whether the 2.24 based firmware updates hboot as well or not.
That is my main question.
Tw1tchy said:
Sounds like your a noob, so don't upgrade your hboot.
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That was so rude, even if he is a noob, I think he has the right to find information and in this case, ask for it.
To be honest, I would like the answer to this too.
_saiko said:
gee thanks, you answered everything
I want to keep hboot 1.44, so it's fairly a simple question whether the 2.24 based firmware updates hboot as well or not.
That is my main question.
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Yes the firmware will update the hboot. It may also update your radio and other hidden partitions.
I would recommend having s-off if your looking to upgrade your firmware. If you don't s-off you have to find the firmware corresponding with your CID. Most of it the time you have to run a RUU to upgrade so back up. Lastly S-OFF only works on hboot 1.44 so if your looking to s-off in the past (assuming you haven't already) don't upgrade because there is no downgrade method yet.
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Guys,
Go here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2316726
Read the guide, and flash the 3.06/2.17 combo file if you can (S-off helps). Will give you the great updated touch drivers, and the GE 3.06 firmware. Sneakyghost did an excellent job with this guide, it will really help you out!
And if i'm S-OFF and on 1.44 HBOOT. Does it worth me upgrading ? What will be the benefits of new firmware / hbott ?
Im already s-off on 1.44 using revone, so what would happen with s-off status if I were to flash the 3.06/2.17 firmware from snakyghost?
Would it remain s-off?
Also something caught my eye, is the hboot from snakyghost a modified version and would reverting to s-on while having it brick the device?
r3v0Lut10n said:
And if i'm S-OFF and on 1.44 HBOOT. Does it worth me upgrading ? What will be the benefits of new firmware / hbott ?
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Sirs please if you could give an answer Id be grateful
_saiko said:
Im already s-off on 1.44 using revone, so what would happen with s-off status if I were to flash the 3.06/2.17 firmware from snakyghost?
Would it remain s-off?
Also something caught my eye, is the hboot from snakyghost a modified version and would reverting to s-on while having it brick the device?
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You will not lose s-off if you flash it just don't s-on with that firmware
Flashing firmware need not be a harrowing experience. As long as you read the guides carefully and follow the instructions to the letter, you will be fine. I have probably flashed at least 5-6 firmware packages on my One since getting it.
In general, once you're s-off, it's good to be on the most recent firmware because of various bug fixes like touch sensitivity. And, it would seem to be best to be on a matching firmware/rom base.
Once you start doing this stuff, however, forget about going back to s-on. You can do it if you're careful, but it's a bad idea. One mistake could leave you with a brick or crippled phone.
Again, to emphasize: Read very carefully, follow the instructions exactly, and you'll be safe.
Thank you Sirs
Usually i'd go and test things myself before asking, but in this case a wrong choice is not an option
Hi all, do I need to be S-OFF to flash the GPe RUU? Or do I need only unlocked bootloader?
The problem is, i'm on 4.2.2 WWE ROM full stock, and i noticed that, since revone doesn't work with HBoot 1.54, the only thing i can do is unlocking the bootloader via HTCdev.
Thanks to all will answer my question.
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You need to be S-OFF to flash the full conversion RUU, but you can flash custom GPe ROMs if you want
EddyOS said:
You need to be S-OFF to flash the full conversion RUU, but you can flash custom GPe ROMs if you want
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Does the full conversion allow the user to receive OTA updates from google? If so is there a guide for this somewhere? Currently running a rom myself and s-on. Don't want to muck anything up but it would be worth it if I could flash and then just permanently leave it be going forward.
Yes it does, although I downloaded it ans flashed it manually through the stock recovery as I cba to wait on Google to push it when I was running the GPe RUU last week
S-OFF
greenpants said:
Does the full conversion allow the user to receive OTA updates from google? If so is there a guide for this somewhere? Currently running a rom myself and s-on. Don't want to muck anything up but it would be worth it if I could flash and then just permanently leave it be going forward.
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Forget it, if you are not S-OFF you cannot do it. Once a phone is upgraded to hboot 1.54 and has not been S-OFF
before the upgrade is stuck.
CC
cc999 said:
Forget it, if you are not S-OFF you cannot do it. Once a phone is upgraded to hboot 1.54 and has not been S-OFF
before the upgrade is stuck.
CC
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Last check my HBoot was 1.4x
I got the phone last Friday then rooted and switch to Bigxie GP rom (ARHD sticks on boot) the day after.
I would like to get OTA updates so I don't have to manually grab everything and lose my data re-locking/unlocking bootloader each time when I do firmware updates (which I realize I will also need S-OFF for). I found the RUU guide so I may eventually go that route presuming the memory of my HBoot is correct...
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greenpants said:
Last check my HBoot was 1.4x
I got the phone last Friday then rooted and switch to Bigxie GP rom (ARHD sticks on boot) the day after.
I would like to get OTA updates so I don't have to manually grab everything and lose my data re-locking/unlocking bootloader each time when I do firmware updates (which I realize I will also need S-OFF for). I found the RUU guide so I may eventually go that route presuming the memory of my HBoot is correct...
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OK then you are on 1.44 I would follow procedure for S-OFF.
With S-OFF you can do just about any flashing you want and you wil never
lose the S-OFF status. Once you gain S-OFF DO NOT RETURN to S-ON.
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I know, this question is asked a lot but I haven't been able to find any threads that reflect my exact situation so please hear me out!
I have a Developer Edition from launch and recently wanted to try out making it a Google Play Edition, so I did that.
Got S-Off, unlocked, rooted, flashed with the GPE RUU
However I find myself missing the camera features and now that 4.3 is out and with rumors of Sense 5.5 I'd like to go back to Sense
Here's where I'm confused: My custom recovery is gone since flashing the RUU and my bootloader now says that it's locked, even though it's a Developer Edition. I understand that the Google Play Edition doesn't come with an unlocked bootloader so my assumption is that the RUU simply resets it.
Here's my tl;dr version of the question: Do I need to go through the whole unlocking process to go back to sense? Can I just flash the RUU for the Developer Edition and automatically get my unlocked bootloader back? I didn't change the CID or any of that, all I did was flash the RUU.
Thanks for any help!!
Edit: The only thing truly confusing me is the fact that the bootloader got locked (or so that's what is says)
docdoc518 said:
I know, this question is asked a lot but I haven't been able to find any threads that reflect my exact situation so please hear me out!
I have a Developer Edition from launch and recently wanted to try out making it a Google Play Edition, so I did that.
Got S-Off, unlocked, rooted, flashed with the GPE RUU
However I find myself missing the camera features and now that 4.3 is out and with rumors of Sense 5.5 I'd like to go back to Sense
Here's where I'm confused: My custom recovery is gone since flashing the RUU and my bootloader now says that it's locked, even though it's a Developer Edition. I understand that the Google Play Edition doesn't come with an unlocked bootloader so my assumption is that the RUU simply resets it.
Here's my tl;dr version of the question: Do I need to go through the whole unlocking process to go back to sense? Can I just flash the RUU for the Developer Edition and automatically get my unlocked bootloader back? I didn't change the CID or any of that, all I did was flash the RUU.
Thanks for any help!!
Edit: The only thing truly confusing me is the fact that the bootloader got locked (or so that's what is says)
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Do you still have s-off? Then you can flash a dev edition RUU to get back sense.. If you want to keep s-off, flash a 4.1.2 RUU, get s-off and then ota update to the latest version.
When you flash the dev RUU, you'll get back your unlocked bootloader.
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n1234d said:
Do you still have s-off? Then you can flash a dev edition RUU to get back sense.. If you want to keep s-off, flash a 4.1.2 RUU, get s-off and then ota update to the latest version.
When you flash the dev RUU, you'll get back your unlocked bootloader.
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I do still have s-off, if I flash the latest RUU for dev edition will I lose s-off? Will I lose it if I flash any RUU?
Just curious at this point.
and THANK YOU!
docdoc518 said:
I do still have s-off, if I flash the latest RUU for dev edition will I lose s-off? Will I lose it if I flash any RUU?
Just curious at this point.
and THANK YOU!
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Some say you lose s-off, some say you don't..Afaik, an RUU is the safest way to go back to s-on. So to be on the safer side get the dev edition RUU for a 4.1.2 base and flash it.. If you lose s-off use Revone, then ota update to the latest 3.xx base. This will also update your hboot to 1.55, so make sure you're s-off before upgrading, as 1.55 cannot be s-offed yet.
Ps: Always use the thanks button
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so as long as the you are s-off, you can ruu to any version even if you are at 1.54 hboot?
n1234d said:
Some say you lose s-off, some say you don't..Afaik, an RUU is the safest way to go back to s-on. So to be on the safer side get the dev edition RUU for a 4.1.2 base and flash it.. If you lose s-off use Revone, then ota update to the latest 3.xx base. This will also update your hboot to 1.55, so make sure you're s-off before upgrading, as 1.55 cannot be s-offed yet.
Ps: Always use the thanks button
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You need to downgrade the HBOOT first following post #2 in the GPe conversion thread, and then flash the RUU. You will NOT lose S-OFF but you will lose all data on the phone so back it up first
EddyOS said:
You need to downgrade the HBOOT first following post #2 in the GPe conversion thread, and then flash the RUU. You will NOT lose S-OFF but you will lose all data on the phone so back it up first
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So considering I'm S-Off with the GPE RUU flashed, hboot 1.54
Will the S-Off allow me to directly flash the 4.3 RUU exe from htcdev? Will I maintain S-Off?
I'm just a bit confused now as you guys somewhat told me the opposite things, I appreciate the help though, getting great information
docdoc518 said:
So considering I'm S-Off with the GPE RUU flashed, hboot 1.54
Will the S-Off allow me to directly flash the 4.3 RUU exe from htcdev? Will I maintain S-Off?
I'm just a bit confused now as you guys somewhat told me the opposite things, I appreciate the help though, getting great information
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Follow what eddy says, he's the man @eddy, how does the hboot version make a difference??
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I'm not sure, here's what I found today...
I was running the leaked Sense 5.5 system dump and FW and wanted to go back to the 1.28.401.7 RUU so I could get the official update. Not an issue I thought as I'd just flash it and away I go as I'd done in the past when on hboot 1.54. It gave the 155 error about not being the right RUU even though I'm S-OFF. So I flashed the hboot in the GPe conversion thread #2 which put it back to 1.44 and the RUU worked fine so it must be something with the new 1.55 hboot that stops it working. I can't be certain but it worked for me
EddyOS said:
I'm not sure, here's what I found today...
I was running the leaked Sense 5.5 system dump and FW and wanted to go back to the 1.28.401.7 RUU so I could get the official update. Not an issue I thought as I'd just flash it and away I go as I'd done in the past when on hboot 1.54. It gave the 155 error about not being the right RUU even though I'm S-OFF. So I flashed the hboot in the GPe conversion thread #2 which put it back to 1.44 and the RUU worked fine so it must be something with the new 1.55 hboot that stops it working. I can't be certain but it worked for me
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Hmm, I have hboot 1.54 not 1.55, so it sounds like I may be able to flash right to 4.3 with the .exe (at least from what I understand)
If it is incompatible it should just give me an error, correct?
I'm willing to take the extra steps but if they're not totally necessary then I'd much prefer to just go down the simpler path
Also, I've got CID BS_US001, what are the benefits of changing it to supercid? Would I get OTAs such as the Sense 5.5 faster?
Hopefully I'm not being a pain, I'm trying my best to learn.
You should be fine on that HBOOT, just try it and if it works it works! If not, you'll get an error and then you just following the second post in the GPe conversion thread
docdoc518 said:
Hmm, I have hboot 1.54 not 1.55, so it sounds like I may be able to flash right to 4.3 with the .exe (at least from what I understand)
If it is incompatible it should just give me an error, correct?
I'm willing to take the extra steps but if they're not totally necessary then I'd much prefer to just go down the simpler path
Also, I've got CID BS_US001, what are the benefits of changing it to supercid? Would I get OTAs such as the Sense 5.5 faster?
Hopefully I'm not being a pain, I'm trying my best to learn.
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Yep, go ahead and try, if it gives you an error, post back.
AFAIK, the dev edition BS_US001 gets OTAs the quickest, so you could keep it at that. SuperCID will allow you to flash any RUU/OTA, even of a different region/MID/CID
Nope, you're not being a pain We're all trying to learn and help here
Good news, I tried flashing the 4.3 RUU exe from HTCDev and it wouldn't work so I just took the longer route and flashed 1.44 hboot, flashed stock 4.1 RUU and then exe flashed up to 4.3
So I'm back on Sense and I'm happy, the only thing that was a slight setback was my bootloader, for some reason it did not unlock after flashing the Brightstar RUU so I went through the process on HTC dev and reflashed the 4.3 RUU to get back the flashlight and other apps lost through the unlocking process. Maybe I should have unlocked it through fastboot while on the GPE ROM? Not sure, but either way I'm back on Sense, bootloader unlocked and S-Off maintained so a huge huge THANK YOU from me.
Now I'm just waiting for Sense 5.5!
You guys are awesome :good:
docdoc518 said:
Good news, I tried flashing the 4.3 RUU exe from HTCDev and it wouldn't work so I just took the longer route and flashed 1.44 hboot, flashed stock 4.1 RUU and then exe flashed up to 4.3
So I'm back on Sense and I'm happy, the only thing that was a slight setback was my bootloader, for some reason it did not unlock after flashing the Brightstar RUU so I went through the process on HTC dev and reflashed the 4.3 RUU to get back the flashlight and other apps lost through the unlocking process. Maybe I should have unlocked it through fastboot while on the GPE ROM? Not sure, but either way I'm back on Sense, bootloader unlocked and S-Off maintained so a huge huge THANK YOU from me.
Now I'm just waiting for Sense 5.5!
You guys are awesome :good:
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All you had to do was flash the HBOOT in post #2 of the GPe conversion thread and then the 4.3 RUU and you would have had the same result
EddyOS said:
All you had to do was flash the HBOOT in post #2 of the GPe conversion thread and then the 4.3 RUU and you would have had the same result
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Newbie move I suppose :angel: haha
I've been rooting and flashing ROMs on my Androids since the G1/Dream believe it or not, but with every new phone/manufacturer there's always new terminology and steps to be taken so I feel like I start over every single time, which honestly isn't much of a bad thing, keeps things exciting (even though HTC made the G1 but that was what feels like ages ago now)
Thanks again guys, it's hard not to feel intimidated but it's been an extremely pleasant experience learning from you. This is why xda is by far the best site you can find for these things.
Cheers
Hi everyone,
I'm trying to get my htc one back to stock, to get the latest ota update (4.4.3), so that I can use the latest venomrom (I think it's 7.0.1 by now).
As far as I understood it, I have to go back to stock to do that, but there were some problems I could not fix.
First my Version is 2.24.206.7 and I can't find any stock recovery for it, I searched the whole internet (that's how it felt), but nothing. I have a backup from my stock rom, that is not the problem.
Second I'm currently S-on, and my hboot is 1.54. I tried to s-off it with firewater, but it did not work.
And I have a custom kernel (ElementalX) installed, is that a problem? If it is, how can I fix it?
I hope someone can help me, and these questions are not already answered somewhere.
Thank you!
umbertoftw said:
Hi everyone,
I'm trying to get my htc one back to stock, to get the latest ota update (4.4.3), so that I can use the latest venomrom (I think it's 7.0.1 by now).
As far as I understood it, I have to go back to stock to do that, but there were some problems I could not fix.
First my Version is 2.24.206.7 and I can't find any stock recovery for it, I searched the whole internet (that's how it felt), but nothing. I have a backup from my stock rom, that is not the problem.
Second I'm currently S-on, and my hboot is 1.54. I tried to s-off it with firewater, but it did not work.
And I have a custom kernel (ElementalX) installed, is that a problem? If it is, how can I fix it?
I hope someone can help me, and these questions are not already answered somewhere.
Thank you!
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Try to s-off with Rumrunner
after your s-off it's easy to update your firmware and flash ViperOne rom
Thanks for the fast answer!
I wanted to s-off with rumrunner using this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2488772
But my firmware is not available, or can I use the universal Rumrunner? I think it does not work with hboot 1.54.
umbertoftw said:
Thanks for the fast answer!
I wanted to s-off with rumrunner using this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2488772
But my firmware is not available, or can I use the universal Rumrunner? I think it does not work with hboot 1.54.
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Yes use the Universal > http://rumrunner.us/rumrunner_downloads/rumrunner_HTC_0.5.0.zip
Ok I tried it with rumrunner universal, but it says: "looks like device is not rooted AND lacks an unsecure kernel. su or FU!!!"
But it is rooted oO any idea?
Thanks
EDIT: I tried it again with my stock rom, but it didn't work either. It said i should flash another kernel, or another rom and retry.
umbertoftw said:
Ok I tried it with rumrunner universal, but it says: "looks like device is not rooted AND lacks an unsecure kernel. su or FU!!!"
But it is rooted oO any idea?
Thanks
EDIT: I tried it again with my stock rom, but it didn't work either. It said i should flash another kernel, or another rom and retry.
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stock rom plus ElementalX is a good combo
okay, I reinstalled ElementalX (in the right version) as stockish as possible, and after many many reboots, and a few prayers and cries it did WORK!!
Thank you very much
What is the next step, because I don't have any stock recovery for my firmware? or a stock kernel..
EDIT: I was searching for RUU to flash, but the weird thing is, that my CID is O2 germany, and my firmware is O2 UK. What should I flash? There is no exact RUU for my CID, or I did not find it..
I'm really clueless how I could get the latest OTA, I don't find any fitting backup or ruu for my phone..
Or is there any other way to get the OTA's?
umbertoftw said:
I'm really clueless how I could get the latest OTA, I don't find any fitting backup or ruu for my phone..
Or is there any other way to get the OTA's?
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You now have s-off you can convert your phone to international
you need this
MID_Change_1.01.zip
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23501681358538634
use modelid: PN0710000
and simply change your CID to HTC__001
fastboot oem writecid HTC__001
then use this RUU
http://www.htc1guru.com/dld/ruu_m7_...0-38r-1157-04l_release_353069_signed_2-1-exe/
or here
http://www.androidruu.com/getdownlo...10.38r.1157.04L_release_353069_signed_2-1.exe
you should get OTA, then go back to unlocking your bootloader and Rooting as usual