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S-OFF Advantages ?

Hi,
what are the benifits of having s-off ? could someone tell me briefly ?
i can flash radio, rom, boot all without s-off so what is the key feature?
I dont need to change my cid cause i have the international One so do i need it ?
Can i flash hboot with s-off without relocking bootloader ??
thanks

B-Man2005 said:
Hi,
what are the benifits of having s-off ? could someone tell me briefly ?
i can flash radio, rom, boot all without s-off so what is the key feature?
I dont need to change my cid cause i have the international One so do i need it ?
Can i flash hboot with s-off without relocking bootloader ??
thanks
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Yes, no need to relock bootloader.
One of the advantage is that you can ruu/flash firmwares not specifically not for your device.
Btw you need super cid if you want to ruu firmwares from other carriers.
Sent from my HTC One

Thug_4_Life said:
Yes, no need to relock bootloader.
One of the advantage is that you can ruu/flash firmwares not specifically not for your device.
Btw you need super cid if you want to ruu firmwares from other carriers.
Sent from my HTC One
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"Yes, no need to relock bootloader."
thats enough for me ... thats good ... i hate relocking it when flashing hboot

B-Man2005 said:
Hi,
what are the benifits of having s-off ? could someone tell me briefly ?
i can flash radio, rom, boot all without s-off so what is the key feature?
I dont need to change my cid cause i have the international One so do i need it ?
Can i flash hboot with s-off without relocking bootloader ??
thanks
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I can think of two benefit.
The first one is receiving updates. I give the real example of the htc One X. When htc started rolling out the 4.1 update, very few CIDs received the update at first. others couldn't use updated custom roms, because the new rom required the new firmware, and everyone had to wait for very long (Literally months) until the firmware for their cid was released via ota (Even those using an international one x)
With S-off, as soon as someone receives the update, you can flash their updated firmware/hboot, and then update to the latest version using a custom rom or official RUU.
The other benefit that I would imagine is to be able to use the ROMs for the Google Edition of the htc One, which I guess would require a specific firmware or hboot, that we can flash with the s-off.

Shu. said:
I can think of two benefit.
The first one is receiving updates. I give the real example of the htc One X. When htc started rolling out the 4.1 update, very few CIDs received the update at first. others couldn't use updated custom roms, because the new rom required the new firmware, and everyone had to wait for very long (Literally months) until the firmware for their cid was released via ota (Even those using an international one x)
With S-off, as soon as someone receives the update, you can flash their updated firmware/hboot, and then update to the latest version using a custom rom or official RUU.
The other benefit that I would imagine is to be able to use the ROMs for the Google Edition of the htc One, which I guess would require a specific firmware or hboot, that we can flash with the s-off.
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no need for google edition ... no need for changing cid or flashing ruu´s
i always install renovate or mikes revolution hd and they always have the newest bases at first ...
so ... flashing hboot without relocking is benefit enough for me
thanks guys

With S-OFF you can also flash a custom splashscreens (the screen right before the bootanimation)
See: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2318987

[Q] HTC One debranding

Hi all, just wondering if someone with some knowledge can help assist me debranding my HTC One. I came from Samsung devices, and knew the ins and outs of rooting, flashing roms etc, but HTC devices seems so over complicated after reading through various forums.
All I want to do is debrand my Vodafone HTC One, and install the international uk firmware, and be able to receive ota updates in future.
I have been reading about changing Ruu, changing CID, and im just baffled by everything, although slowly starting to gain some knowledge.
Please I would appreciate if someone could give me the correct procedure to do this, do I need to unlock the bootloader before doing it? Already registered on HTCDEV website, just havnt unlocked bootloader yet.
I have spent hours reading info, and my head is practically going round in circles lol.

What do you mean by debranding? Do you mean putting a custom Rom on it?
Edit: I missed a section of what you said. I believe you have to unlock the bootloader, turn security off, and get Super CID.
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Thank you, So I need to unlock bootloader, get s-off, then install supercid. Then all I do is install the international stock rom? and I will receive ota updates?

I believe so, but you must have the international stock recovery on too for the OTA updates to work.
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honda1979 said:
Hi all, just wondering if someone with some knowledge can help assist me debranding my HTC One. I came from Samsung devices, and knew the ins and outs of rooting, flashing roms etc, but HTC devices seems so over complicated after reading through various forums.
All I want to do is debrand my Vodafone HTC One, and install the international uk firmware, and be able to receive ota updates in future.
I have been reading about changing Ruu, changing CID, and im just baffled by everything, although slowly starting to gain some knowledge.
Please I would appreciate if someone could give me the correct procedure to do this, do I need to unlock the bootloader before doing it? Already registered on HTCDEV website, just havnt unlocked bootloader yet.
I have spent hours reading info, and my head is practically going round in circles lol.
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All the following is dependant on having an hboot of less than 1.54. If you are already on hboot 1.54, you will not yet be able to s-off and follow this process until an exploit is found for the 1.54 hboot. To check this, turn off your device and restart it whilst holding the volume down button. The information will be displayed.
1 Get S-Off http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314582
2 Install super cid : fastboot oem writecid 11111111
3 Run RUU 1.28.401.7 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2207874
4 Change cid to generic : fastboot oem writecid HTC__001
You will now receive ota updates to 2.24.401.1

honda1979 said:
Thank you, So I need to unlock bootloader, get s-off, then install supercid. Then all I do is install the international stock rom? and I will receive ota updates?
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Run revone, unlocked bootloader and s-off
change CID to HTC__001 or 11111111
run RUU for international M7 i would start with PN07IMG_M7_UL_JB_50_HTC_Europe_1.29.401.16_R_Radio_4A.14.3250.13_10.33.1150.01_release_318486_signed_2_4
once this is on the phone you should get all the OTA releases bringing you up to date.

bobsie41 said:
All the following is dependant on having an hboot of less than 1.54. If you are already on hboot 1.54, you will not yet be able to s-off and follow this process until an exploit is found for the 1.54 hboot. To check this, turn off your device and restart it whilst holding the volume down button. The information will be displayed.
1 Get S-Off http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314582
2 Install super cid : fastboot oem writecid 11111111
3 Run RUU 1.28.401.7 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2207874
4 Change cid to generic : fastboot oem writecid HTC__001
You will now receive ota updates to 2.24.401.1
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Thanks for that info mate. I just checked and im on hboot 1.54, which means I wont be able to do this at the moment. Was that RUU you state an exe file? I guess I don't have to root or install any custom recovery to do this? First I need to wait on an exploit for sboot 1.54 to get s-off. Also it might be easier for me going down the custom rom route?

honda1979 said:
Thanks for that info mate. I just checked and im on hboot 1.54, which means I wont be able to do this at the moment. Was that RUU you state an exe file? I guess I don't have to root or install any custom recovery to do this? First I need to wait on an exploit for sboot 1.54 to get s-off. Also it might be easier for me going down the custom rom route?
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Until s-off is achieved for hboot 1.54, your only choice is custom roms. This should be fine as you are already updated to the latest firmware through Vodafone.
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bobsie41 said:
Until s-off is achieved for hboot 1.54, your only choice is custom roms. This should be fine as you are already updated to the latest firmware through Vodafone.
Sent from my HTC One using xda premium
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Ok cheers. I thought that I needed to be S-Off before I could install any custom rom, but I could root and install custom recovery with s-on?

honda1979 said:
Ok cheers. I thought that I needed to be S-Off before I could install any custom rom, but I could root and install custom recovery with s-on?
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Yes

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bobsie41 said:
Yes
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Ok, now here goes lol. My understanding so far is that in order to install any stock ruu I must first get s-off. As im running stock Vodafone firmware, the CID must match this firmware. If I get s-off, I will be able to install any CID and stock rom, as long as they match one another. and as im on hboot 1.54 just now, supercid wont work yet, so s-off is a no no at the moment. I can still root and install a custom firmware though.

[Q] S-OFF Through HTC Dev with 1.54 Firmware

Hi guys,
just one quick question. I have my phone stuck in S-ON after upgrading into new firmware (HBOOT 1.54). It is clear that revone (the one I used to S-OFF the first time) is currently unable to S-OFF my phone right now. Therefore now I'm considering S-OFF through HTC Dev. Will HTC Dev S-OFF work with 1.54 HBOOT?
Another question would be, apart from getting wiped and lose some application, what disadvantage will S-OFF through HTC Dev brings?
Thanks for the help

you can unlock the bootloader and install custom roms/kernels but no s-off, which might be a problem if you need to send your phone to warranty because they could deny warranty on the re/unlocked status of the bootloader.

flamechamp said:
Hi guys,
just one quick question. I have my phone stuck in S-ON after upgrading into new firmware (HBOOT 1.54). It is clear that revone (the one I used to S-OFF the first time) is currently unable to S-OFF my phone right now. Therefore now I'm considering S-OFF through HTC Dev. Will HTC Dev S-OFF work with 1.54 HBOOT?
Another question would be, apart from getting wiped and lose some application, what disadvantage will S-OFF through HTC Dev brings?
Thanks for the help
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Why did you s-on in the first place? You can't s-off, you're stuck for now. HTC Dev can only unlock your bootloader.

redbull123 said:
Why did you s-on in the first place? You can't s-off, you're stuck for now. HTC Dev can only unlock your bootloader.
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I didn't S-ON it on purpose. It went S-ON automatically after firmware update and few resets. I have no slightest idea why it went S-ON. So... it seems I'm doomed for now...

godutch said:
you can unlock the bootloader and install custom roms/kernels but no s-off, which might be a problem if you need to send your phone to warranty because they could deny warranty on the re/unlocked status of the bootloader.
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how am I suppose to install custom ROMs when I'm S-On now? I can't even flash custom recovery right?

flamechamp said:
how am I suppose to install custom ROMs when I'm S-On now? I can't even flash custom recovery right?
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with htc dev unlock bootloader method you can, you dont need s-off to flash custom recovery and roms.
I know that could be somewhat confusing, but seems like you did not read enough

flamechamp said:
Hi guys,
just one quick question. I have my phone stuck in S-ON after upgrading into new firmware (HBOOT 1.54). It is clear that revone (the one I used to S-OFF the first time) is currently unable to S-OFF my phone right now. Therefore now I'm considering S-OFF through HTC Dev. Will HTC Dev S-OFF work with 1.54 HBOOT?
Another question would be, apart from getting wiped and lose some application, what disadvantage will S-OFF through HTC Dev brings?
Thanks for the help
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Yeah the word is devs are workingbpn that but I heard still long time away

SLver said:
with htc dev unlock bootloader method you can, you dont need s-off to flash custom recovery and roms.
I know that could be somewhat confusing, but seems like you did not read enough
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Any links maybe? Because as far as I know I need custom recovery to flash ROMs and to install custom recovery S-OFF is needed.
99piotrek said:
Yeah the word is devs are workingbpn that but I heard still long time away
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I do hope the REVOLUTIONARY team finishes their work quickly...

flamechamp said:
Any links maybe? Because as far as I know I need custom recovery to flash ROMs and to install custom recovery S-OFF is needed.
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With the HTC ONE toolkit you can unlock your bootloader and flash a custom recovery.
Very easy. I'm in the same situation at this moment. hboot 1.54.
I also got a question about this.
When I'm in the toolkit and I want to use the mainver error fix I always get Device not Found. Is this also because i'm on hboot 1.54 or maybe not a correct setting somwhere (adb?).

haenraets said:
With the HTC ONE toolkit you can unlock your bootloader and flash a custom recovery.
Very easy. I'm in the same situation at this moment. hboot 1.54.
I also got a question about this.
When I'm in the toolkit and I want to use the mainver error fix I always get Device not Found. Is this also because i'm on hboot 1.54 or maybe not a correct setting somwhere (adb?).
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Oh but I must unlock my RELOCKED bootloader to install the recovery right?

flamechamp said:
Oh but I must unlock my RELOCKED bootloader to install the recovery right?
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Yes... That is correct and once you unlock it you can use the all in one kit to flash a recovery and then you can flash the rom of your choice
Sent from my ViperOne

flamechamp said:
Oh but I must unlock my RELOCKED bootloader to install the recovery right?
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Yes, and you can do this with the toolkit.

leohdz148 said:
Yes... That is correct and once you unlock it you can use the all in one kit to flash a recovery and then you can flash the rom of your choice
Sent from my ViperOne
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haenraets said:
Yes, and you can do this with the toolkit.
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But through the toolkit, the unlocking process will use the HTC Dev method which erases the phone's internal memory and some part which contains some apps right? Any other cons which shouldn't I unlock through HTC Dev?

Here it is but be careful
flamechamp said:
Any links maybe? Because as far as I know I need custom recovery to flash ROMs and to install custom recovery S-OFF is needed.
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Go there, register an account
http://www.htcdev.com/
after that click on the "developer center" button and right in the middle you will find a "unlock bootloader" button
click on it, follow instructions, but make sure you have a full backup of your storage cause it will be erased
S-OFF is a security flag that gives you permission to "play" with organic partitions of the devices system in a way
you don't need it for having custom recovery, after you unlock you can flash a recovery the exact same way you did with S-OFF or restore a backup you did before reverting to complete stock
S-OFF for most users is only a solution to not losing warranty after unlocking as unlocking actually voids your software warranty and in a way the hardware warranty as HTC can claim that the unofficial software you used actually damaged the device.
If I helped to make you understand in any way I am glad but please if you don't understand what these procedures do or how they work in a general sense it's better not to use/perform them, if you are in any way like me who spent the better part of a salary to buy this phone it would be a shame wasting all that money bricking it out of ignorance, if not, it's still a shame.

flamechamp said:
But through the toolkit, the unlocking process will use the HTC Dev method which erases the phone's internal memory and some part which contains some apps right? Any other cons which shouldn't I unlock through HTC Dev?
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Yea it wipes everything so I suggest you back up anything important to you before you unlock... And there aren't any other cons except the fact that it will wipe EVERYTHING (apps, contacts synced with phone, music, pictures, etc.), thats the only con to it
Sent from my ViperOne

I think there is some confusion here for the OP.
First, S-off and unlocking your bootloader are 2 completely different things. To install custom recoveries, and therefore custom Roms and kernels, you need an unlocked bootloader (I am not sue what all the talk of relocking was about). The only way for you to unlock at this point is with HTCdev, and this will wipe your device unfortunately. Their are guides to unlocking and rooting your phone in this very forum

dgtiii said:
I think there is some confusion here for the OP.
First, S-off and unlocking your bootloader are 2 completely different things. To install custom recoveries, and therefore custom Roms and kernels, you need an unlocked bootloader (I am not sue what all the talk of relocking was about). The only way for you to unlock at this point is with HTCdev, and this will wipe your device unfortunately. Their are guides to unlocking and rooting your phone in this very forum
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Yes, I got things mixed up. I got so frustrated with S-ON such that I forgot that the real problem is the RELOCKED status of my phone. Thanks for reminding me
But i do need S-OFF to flash splash screen right?

flamechamp said:
Yes, I got things mixed up. I got so frustrated with S-ON such that I forgot that the real problem is the RELOCKED status of my phone. Thanks for reminding me
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No problem, glad to help.....

flamechamp said:
Yes, I got things mixed up. I got so frustrated with S-ON such that I forgot that the real problem is the RELOCKED status of my phone. Thanks for reminding me
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??? There was no talk from anyone about 'relocking'. You were told about 5 times you had to unlock your bootloader.
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redbull123 said:
??? There was no talk from anyone about 'relocking'. You were told about 5 times you had to unlock your bootloader.
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no, I got it relocked to update my firmware last time. But can't have it unlocked now. But now I know that using HTC Dev method, it will be solved.
But I do need S-OFF to flash splash screen right?

[Q] Soo..

So i just successfully rooted my international HTC ONE. I want to flash Venom one Custom ROM . The latest version is for 4.2.2 but my current software version is 4.1.2 . Can i just go ahead and flash the venom ROM or do i have to update my bean to 4.2.2 first?
if so how?
Thank you for the replies

ronnyg13 said:
So i just successfully rooted my international HTC ONE. I want to flash Venom one Custom ROM . The latest version is for 4.2.2 but my current software version is 4.1.2 . Can i just go ahead and flash the venom ROM or do i have to update my bean to 4.2.2 first?
if so how?
Thank you for the replies
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You can unlock and install the ROM.
You might want to S-Off with revone, after the official update you won't be able to.

BenPope said:
You can unlock and install the ROM.
You might want to S-Off with revone, after the official update you won't be able to.
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Alright thank you. And just a brief explanation what the s-off would do ?

ronnyg13 said:
Alright thank you. And just a brief explanation what the s-off would do ?
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S-off unlocks ALL security on your phone, which can be dangerous if not done wisely. Read the Revone and Moonshine threads in the original development forums. HTC let's you do a lot without S-off: you can unlock, flash rooms, custom kernels, radios and mods. S-off gives you complete control, like flashing custom splash screens and unsigned firmware. Viper one will install and run well if you staye 4.12 and S-on, just unlock, flash custom recovery, and you are good to go...

ronnyg13 said:
Alright thank you. And just a brief explanation what the s-off would do ?
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Apart from all the other stuff mentioned above, it will allow you to go back to "locked" bootloader instead of "relocked", which may or may not have warranty implications.

[Q] What's all the fuss about S-OFF?

So I read about S-OFF and I can gather that it has something to do with unlocking the bootloader. I'm a little confused since I just went to the HTC website and did the official unlock steps, I'm now rooted with clockworkmod CM10.2, and my bootloader is S-ON.
Basically, I never did S-OFF so I'm confused about why it's so important and why didn't I have to do it?

Stephen304 said:
So I read about S-OFF and I can gather that it has something to do with unlocking the bootloader. I'm a little confused since I just went to the HTC website and did the official unlock steps, I'm now rooted with clockworkmod CM10.2, and my bootloader is S-ON.
Basically, I never did S-OFF so I'm confused about why it's so important and why didn't I have to do it?
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Its not important at all
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With S-off you can flash everything you want on your phone . Downgrade is a most comun reason.
Sent from my HTC 802w

Stephen304 said:
So I read about S-OFF and I can gather that it has something to do with unlocking the bootloader. I'm a little confused since I just went to the HTC website and did the official unlock steps, I'm now rooted with clockworkmod CM10.2, and my bootloader is S-ON.
Basically, I never did S-OFF so I'm confused about why it's so important and why didn't I have to do it?
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Some carriers are the only users option in their area.
Like for me, that carrier would be Verizon. They have great coverage.
But they also happen to be evil and had HTC block our HTC One's MID from being able to use the HTC Bootloader Unlock bin file.
It will fail the initial checks after getting the token from you.
We also have the 1.54 hboot as stock, so there is no using moonshine, or facepalm, or any other previous method as of yet.
So in order for poor folks with carriers that strongarm smaller companies like HTC into doing things against their wishes and our wishes,
S-off allows us to then change CID,MID, etc,...as well as then go and unlock the bootloader as we should be able to do by choice.
That's why they built it and added in a warranty void warning, so we could make that choice if we so choose.
Anyway, that should make it more clear to you now at least, sorry for the extra carrier rant, lol.
Plus the obvious other advantages of flashing radios, kernels, etc,...without doing fastboot.

Ah okay. So S-off does similar to the HTCDev unlock? If I used S-Off instead could I get rid of the ugly warning text on boot?

Htc dev unlock only needed partitions. S-off unlock ALL
Sent from my HTC 802w

Stephen304 said:
Ah okay. So S-off does similar to the HTCDev unlock? If I used S-Off instead could I get rid of the ugly warning text on boot?
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Yes you could get ride of the warning text with s-off, with s-on you cannot.

Everything what's said above + more , for example if htc one windows version ever gets ported s-off users can have it , we can also convert our device into ge edition / dev edition / flash whatever comes thru your mind , even splash screens , use modified bootloaders , we can also unlock bootloader without need of HTC official unlock process , we can lock it as well ( s-on can only relock it ) we can also completely hide we ever were rooted / unlocked for warranty reasons while s-on can't.
We can also use super cid which allows us to flash any ruu or use any region / carrier roms.
We can also downgrade bootloader or flash any other.
That's mainly it , also for example us with s-off have writeable partitions while for example s-on users still don't on 3.22 base.
And at the end maybe a good thing for you and some less advanced or less knowledgeable ppl s-on is a good thing since with s-on phone is practically indestructible software-wise , while with s-off small mistake even in fastboot could brick the device.
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santod040 said:
Plus the obvious other advantages of flashing radios, kernels, etc,...without doing fastboot.
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With the HTC One, you can flash radios and kernels in the recovery if you unlock the bootloader...
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Stephen304 said:
So I read about S-OFF and I can gather that it has something to do with unlocking the bootloader. I'm a little confused since I just went to the HTC website and did the official unlock steps, I'm now rooted with clockworkmod CM10.2, and my bootloader is S-ON.
Basically, I never did S-OFF so I'm confused about why it's so important and why didn't I have to do it?
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To get official OTA with updates to firmware, hboot and everything you have to get them from your carrier, and this depends on your CID. You cannot change this on S-ON. So basically your are bound to your carrier for life, they may but also may not release updates (like for ex. carriers in USA skipped 4.2 if I am not mistaken). You can of course flash custom ROM using dev unlock, but it won't update the firmware.

Ah okay thanks for the info! I have one more question about S-OFF if you don't mind: If I S-OFF and disable the red warning (flashing an unsigned fw), then S-ON again, would the warning come back?

If you do s-on with modified hboot will result an instant and forever brick. Dont do that.
Sent from my HTC 802w

Stephen304 said:
Ah okay thanks for the info! I have one more question about S-OFF if you don't mind: If I S-OFF and disable the red warning (flashing an unsigned fw), then S-ON again, would the warning come back?
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Why exactly would you want to go back to S-ON?
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