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Music Streaming from computer with 2.2?

Just wondering if this feature came with 2.2 or if the info given by Google is for for the Gingerbread release. I've been waiting for this feature for a long time. Thanks guys!

pjd2011 said:
Just wondering if this feature came with 2.2 or if the info given by Google is for for the Gingerbread release. I've been waiting for this feature for a long time. Thanks guys!
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you can do this with orb. music hasn't ever really been a problem. the only issue to streaming is divx/xvid movies.
go to orb, make an account. put orb on your computer. then, just make sure orb is running when you leave your house, and that you have an internet connection. then, on your phone, go to mycast.orb.com, log in with your account info. stream.
you can also stream non xvix/divx movies, look at your pictures, and look at documents.

pjd2011 said:
Just wondering if this feature came with 2.2 or if the info given by Google is for for the Gingerbread release. I've been waiting for this feature for a long time. Thanks guys!
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The streaming capabilities are already in the OS, it came along with the cloud to phone notifications. The software is not done yet. Simplify Media is the company in charge of the streaming software. On their blog it says that they pulled their iPhone and desktop apps last month and that they will support existing accounts for at least 3 months. Based on that, I would guess we'll see the software mid-summer, probably around the iPhone launch.
For reference here are the 5 other active threads specifically about music streaming. There are plenty of others that mention it. Try searching next time.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=687180
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=686826
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=686782
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=689011
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=687943

GMote works well for me

J.L.C. said:
GMote works well for me
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gmote isn't for streaming, as far as i know, it's for using your phone to control music on your computer.
correct me if i'm wrong

timothydonohue said:
gmote isn't for streaming, as far as i know, it's for using your phone to control music on your computer.
correct me if i'm wrong
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You can stream while on WiFi, assuming the host machine is on the same network.

I highly recommend Subsonic for streaming music to your phone. You can use it from any web browser or the Android app. One of the best features IMO is that you can set up different users based on how you're streaming. For example, I have 2 users... 1 for streaming over EDGE or 3G with bitrate limited to 64kbps, another user for streaming over WiFi with unlimited bitrate. It also handles M3U playlists and saves the entire playlist (not just the currently playing song) so there isn't much skipping at all. Honestly, the only downside is that the dev hasn't yet implemented an option to shuffle songs.
http://www.subsonic.org/pages/index.jsp
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travon802 said:
I highly recommend Subsonic for streaming music to your phone. You can use it from any web browser or the Android app. One of the best features IMO is that you can set up different users based on how you're streaming. For example, I have 2 users... 1 for streaming over EDGE or 3G with bitrate limited to 64kbps, another user for streaming over WiFi with unlimited bitrate. It also handles M3U playlists and saves the entire playlist (not just the currently playing song) so there isn't much skipping at all. Honestly, the only downside is that the dev hasn't yet implemented an option to shuffle songs.
http://www.subsonic.org/pages/index.jsp
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+1 for this. Subsonic is very good. Also worth noting; you have the option of syncing your music to your phone (well, kind of... once you select an album or playlist the Subsonic app downloads all the songs to the SD card).

timothydonohue said:
gmote isn't for streaming, as far as i know, it's for using your phone to control music on your computer.
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You're wrong. Gmote works for controlling your computer AND it also works for streaming music and video etc. over 3G or WiFi.
I use Gmote a lot and I highly recommend it for music & video streaming.

Amazon Cloud Drive and videos

I am very please (like several other users) with the new Amazon cloud drive. I even purchased an album so I can get 20GB free for one year! So I uploaded some episodes of my favorite TV show (Futurama) in HD which worked flawlessly. I can watch them in the browser from my PC or select individual files to download them again. Now, when I try to check the box for the file on my Xoom (either in Dolphin HD or stock browser) nothing happens. Same when I click on the link that on my PC plays the video.
This for me defeats the main purpose, i.e. to centrally upload videos so I can watch them when on the road or on vacation, without using the precious space on my Xoom. Does anyone have an idea why this is happening? The playback issue might be related to the plugin that the browser needs to play the file but what about the check box?
Thanks for your suggestions!

I don't see the offer for a 20 Gb upgrade w/album purchase. Is it automatic? And also, is it just for the first year?
TIA

for 1 year after you purchase any album from their website.
also its more like a 15gig upgrade since you go from 5-->20
its automatic although when you want to buy an album you should see some promo regarding it on the page

koreanschoolkid said:
for 1 year after you purchase any album from their website.
also its more like a 15gig upgrade since you go from 5-->20
its automatic although when you want to buy an album you should see some promo regarding it on the page
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It was all automatic, yes. The good thing is that if you do not actively renew they won't charge you automatically at the end of the first year but cut you back to 5GB (as of now).
But does anyone have an answer to my question!!??

It appears to use something our browsers don't support. Which is odd, only thing I can guess is that it uses a quicktime plugin. That or they are acting like netflix and hulu and don't want us Android users watching Video.
I will say that while I like CloudPlayer, I hate it's Shuffle option. It's not random at all. If you close the app and go back in it starts from the begining even though shuffle is on, and then takes you through the same "Shuffle" of music. Only way I have found to truly shuffle is to pick the first song in your list and turn the shuffle on and off several times. then it resorts.

Amazon doesn't link their video library to the cloud player either. I've been able to play videos off of the browser app in the Xoom but would much rather have a dedicated app.

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Amazon doesn't link their video library to the cloud player either. I've been able to play videos off of the browser app in the Xoom but would much rather have a dedicated app.
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What kind of videos did you play? For me still nothing happens when I tap on the videos

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Amazon doesn't link their video library to the cloud player either. I've been able to play videos off of the browser app in the Xoom but would much rather have a dedicated app.
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if amazon had a dedicated streaming video player i would so ditch netflix in a heartbeat

I don't have it in front of me at the moment but I believe it was Amazon Video Library running in Miren Browser. The videos were not the greatest quality, pretty much all I have on Amazon is NickJr stuff for my daughter.

Just wanted top follow up on this. I'm having no problem at all with amazon video library stuff, Nick Jr., in Dolphin, although I do get a warning. Wasn't as lucky trying to play Prime videos, froze up right away.
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Try Xyplayer
Have you tried xyplayer app?

My review of Google Music

http://techmaderelevant.blogspot.com/2011/05/htc-evo-3d-and-view-4g-preorders-are-go.html
Still uploading all my songs lol, but so far I'm loving it! Who got their invite?

Can you just post your review here instead of linking to your blog for hits?

Here ya go:
Google's cloud-based music service was announced at this year's I/O conference to much fanfare and no surprise. While rumors of a music store had been rampant for quite some time, that wasn't quite what we got. Yet. But enough talk about what is not present, here's a quick sneak peak into Google Music Beta!
Before I get into this review, I'd like to make 2 disclaimers. The first and most important is that this entire service is Beta. There are imperfections that will no doubt be addressed. The second is that this is really 2 sneak peaks: One for the webapp and uploader, one for the Android app. Now, the good stuff.
First up is the meat and potatoes: The web interface and uploader. The uploading is incredibly easy. After a quick download and install, the Music Manager will scan your computer for the music. To avoid getting the random sound effects on your computer, you can have it scan through iTunes, Windows Media Player, or specific folders. Everything is done in the background, so you don't need to pay attention to it at all. You can also have it automatically run upon start up, keeping this truly out of sight and out of mind. The average library has a lot of music, mine being about 19.5Gb of tunes. At the time of this writing, I'm at 387 track uploaded after a few hours in, so completing this task will take a long time. The good news is Google promises each user 20,000 songs. My 19.5Gb accounts for roughly 4,000 tracks. The one issue I have is that I use iTunes, which means I don't really keep track of what the files are actually named. Since many tracks have numbers in front, and as far as I can tell the Music Manager uploads in alphabetical order, some albums can't be listened to in full.
The web app will look very familiar if you've used the web version of the Android Market. Everything is very tab-centric, making it incredibly easy to use. On the left side, you have the traditional ways of sorting through your library (Songs, Artists, Albums, Genres). Under that you get to the mixes and playlists. The auto-playlists sort out the songs you've Thumbs Up'd, your recently added stuff, and the free music Google is giving out. There's not a lot of it, and it's mostly a song or two per artist, but it's nice to get free stuff.
There are two kinds of playlists. You have your traditional playlists that you custom make by drag-and-dropping songs. The Music Manager also pulls your playlists from iTunes, which is very cool. You can also create Instant Mixes (a la Genius Mixes from iTunes) from individual songs or albums, adding in similar jams. Along the bottom is the Now Playing bar with the familiar Play/Pause, track navigation, Shuffle, Repeat, and Volume controls. I think the Now Playing bar could be a bit thinner. The width of it and the banners at the top make the song and album lists seem a little cramped. While the overall look isn't as visually impressive as the Zune player, it looks a lot better than iTunes but still has the information that iTunes has. Overall it's a very easy to use service while still looking very nice.
Now the dessert. The Android app is very basic, almost to a fault. First thing's first, it works pretty well. It decided to scare me by force closing the first time I tried to play a song, but every time after it worked well. Songs take very little time to load up on WiFi, though it does take a little bit longer on 3G. Swiping left and right switches through album, artist, etc. views. When on the now playing screen, you see the album cover, Play/Pause, song and artist name. One cool thing is being able to make custom playlists in the Now Playing screen, though it would make more sense to be able to make Instant Mixes from this screen. Maybe we'll get that later. You can also download songs or albums from the Library view and Now Playing screen.
The main problem with the app is a visual one. It's just boring. Like really boring. You're given a blurry, boring background picture. There's no animation between screens, nothing. It's just blah. It would have made a lot more sense to keep the color scheme and overall feel of the web app, while tweaking it a bit for smaller screens. The other small problem is that the name of the app is Music. So is the stock music app for Android. While the icons are different, this can be a bit confusing. They should made it Google Music for differentiation.
The biggest problem facing Google Music is the complete lack of a store. Google Music, as it is now, is just cloud storage and streaming. What's weird is that in both the web and Android app, you can "shop for artist", but it just does a Google Shopping search for that artist where you can buy the songs from somewhere else. This may work for now, but it isn't a longterm solution when Amazon is offering very similar services. Google is trying to get the labels to get on board in some fashion, but how long it will take and in what form we'll get the music remains to be seen. I'm hoping for a subscription service, and knowing how Google does things (and a fair amount of rumors supporting this theory), it's very likely that that is what we'll get.
Overall, Google Music is the best solution to having too much music to fit on your phone. While I'm also a big fan of subscription services like Rdio, they just don't have everything I listen to. Amazon's cloud storage is good, but it lacks a well done web player and uploading your stuff is obnoxious. Google nailed the upload and web version for sure. Once they lock in the record deals and make the Android app visually appealing, Google Music may just be the best music solution yet.

Everybody outside of the USA should have a look at 4shared music in the android market.
The most underrated and probably best international cloud service around

Has anyone tried to play it through a different player like PowerAmp. I don't want to listen to music on a lesser player, not since I've heard the difference. Also, are the playlists recognized by other players like PowerAmp?

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got my beta invite today...yippe

got my invite but didnt see a download for the android app????

vampir4997 said:
got my invite but didnt see a download for the android app????
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You have to set up the app on your PC. There is a link from the music.google.com page near the top right for the android app.
For me, I think the biggest opportunity for the android app will be mire management features. Currently you cannot thumbs up it down a track from mobile, and you cannot delete one either. Also it does not appear to be updating the play count when tracks are played via the mobile app. Overall , the app feels more alpha tech demo than it does an actual beta.
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I would love to try this out but unfortunately my library is larger than 20,000 songs :/

i'm trying to figure out the best balance of bitrate and battery. my V0 mp3s eat battery. i think pandora streams at q.2 48kbps AAC. i'm trying out flac-->q.25 63kbps AAC right now.
i think slacker, pandora, and lastfm are all around 48kbps. this might be an agreement with mobile providers--they all stream higher bitrate to the desktop than mobile.
or maybe i should just use it as a locker, and download from it? can't imagine when i would need that. don't really see a good use for this yet. the only reason i would stream is for discovery or lazy mix, and those services don't sound great. if they were higher bitrate, they would eat battery.

All my music is either uploaded to amazon mp3 or on amazon's cloudshare storage. I wish there was a way to get the music over to google without downloading and then re-uploading.

q.25 aac (63kbps) sounds like doodoo. i guess i would only use google music when on a ac or car charger, so that i can afford to play higher bitrates
i don't know, maybe it's my phone's audio chip. the m4a files sound better on my pc than my phone. htc thunderbolt

Not to promote piracy, of course... HOWEVER, for those people who may not have purchased all of their MP3's, am I right in assuming it could turn into a legal issue if Google is asked by the RIAA or a law enforcement agency to turn over records?

sfreemanoh said:
Not to promote piracy, of course... HOWEVER, for those people who may not have purchased all of their MP3's, am I right in assuming it could turn into a legal issue if Google is asked by the RIAA or a law enforcement agency to turn over records?
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no - uploading your files to the cloud and streaming to your device is not "sharing" copyrighted material. no matter how dubious your music sources may or may not be, there is nothing inherently illegal about accessing through the cloud. in fact, it is only the act of sharing/uploading/seeding copyrighted material that is illegal.

i think its prety sweet so far. abiltly to deleted tracks from phone and some better 3g speeds would make it that much better. Anyone have this on multiple phones?? downloaded the player from the market to put it on my wifes phone but it is not in the settings to add an account. downloaded mine from the market and it has a different options menu.

I'm enjoying it so far. I was previously using AudioGalaxy to stream my collection from my home pc to other devices, but I definitely prefer the cloud storage method.
Took roughly 40 hours to upload 5k songs, not too bad. Had to convert some files to aac, but not many. Ran into 1 glitch where the uploader claims that a few song files don't contain anything, which they clearly do.. still not quite sure how to fix that problem, but it's only on 4 songs that I never listen to, so not that big of a deal.
At the end of the day, big thumbs up from me.

Im in beta but no streaming
I'm in the beta, installed android app via beta invite link, uploaded music. but can not find a way to stream from the cloud to my android phone. HELP!

c_urbanek said:
I'm in the beta, installed android app via beta invite link, uploaded music. but can not find a way to stream from the cloud to my android phone. HELP!
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Check out "Settings" and there should be an option to link it to your Google Account. I linked it and it still wasn't streaming though. I rebooted my phone, but that didn't seem to work either. Then randomly, a day or two later, it spontaneously started showing my music to stream. YMMV...

Offline music question ...
Here is a question for the Google Music Beta experts ...
One thing I love about Google Music on my phone is the ability to pin music. This allows us to play the 'pinned' music even when there is no 3G or WIFI service. The way I manage my offline music is through a playlist I made called "My Favorites". I have this playlist pinned, so anytime I add new music to it, it will automatically download when I am connected to WIFI. The question I have is ... what happens if I removed songs from the pinned playlist? Will they be removed from my phone? Or do they stay on my phone? I am hoping they are removed. I would hate for my SD card to get filled up with songs that I don't care to be available when I am offline.
Thanks

I have 30k+ songs in my itunes library, how do I pick and choose which songs to add/delete?

Can a group control music playlist like the Nexus Q could?

So the Nexus Q had the ability to allow multiple users to control the current music playlist, which I believed was a great feature. Has anyone got something like this working with the Chromecast dongle? Seems when I try to hook up another device (by hitting the cast button in Play Music), it stops the first from playing correctly and boots it off the dongle. Little bit of a let down. Maybe it will be something Google will add with updates.
Edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=WT0o1truK9w&t=237 This is the original presentation for the Nexus Q that shows off the functionality I am talking about.

hinataoccu said:
So the Nexus Q had the ability to allow multiple users to control the current music playlist, which I believed was a great feature. Has anyone got something like this working with the Chromecast dongle? Seems when I try to hook up another device, it stops the first from playing correctly. Little bit of a let down. Maybe it will be something Google will add with updates.
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Which music app are you casting from?
Youtube lets you add to queue.
I don't think there is a true Music casting app yet.

Echodawg said:
Which music app are you casting from?
Youtube lets you add to queue.
I don't think there is a true Music casting app yet.
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Casting from the Play Music app. You wouldn't consider that a true music casting app?

hinataoccu said:
Casting from the Play Music app. You wouldn't consider that a true music casting app?
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My bad, Google play didn't have the cast button show up a few minutes ago so I thought it wasn't baked in yet.
I'll have to set up another music account to see because I don't believe I can't have more than 1 instance of G Music playing at once so just trying from another device won't cut it.

hinataoccu said:
Casting from the Play Music app. You wouldn't consider that a true music casting app?
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I think what he is saying is kind of what they demoed with the Netflix app, where multiple phone/tablets can control the music, and music queue, not just one device. Or in my case, control the music on two different phones with two different google accounts, but I don't even think that will be possible.

This is from the original Nexus Q presentation http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=WT0o1truK9w&t=237. If you watch the next min or so you will see exactly what I am talking about. With the Nexus Q multiple people could access the queue in real time and play their own music from their Google Play Music cloud.

During the presentation he mentions multiple people being able to que things so it should work, haven't had a need to specifically test it though.

I own a Q and I can confirm that Chromecast does not work like the Q did when it comes to group queuing. When a second device is set to cast, the music will just stop.
One can then start playing from the second device and they will both be "connected" but in my experience if one tries to then play a song from the initial device it will give a "cannot play music requested" error.
Also, when both devices are connected the queue isn't in sync between devices like on the Nexus Q
However, if one is using the google cast chrome extension it will display the track playing and play/pause controls.
Hopefully this is just an early limitation and full sync will be enabled in the future.

I'm sure this will be added to function like the YouTube app with a shared queue that multiple devices can add songs to.

Streaming Flash Player and HTML5

I recently got the chromecast and rooted it and then quickly tried to tab cast some streaming games. While the quality is very good I noticed quite a bit of lagging. So I went out to see if there was any way around this and couldn't really find anything. Also when playing flash videos the sound still comes out of the computer and not the tv. I was thinking we may be able to send these videos directly to the chromecast as they are nothing really but a combination of player + url. I found this but don't really know much about devving so thought maybe I could peak someones interest? Or at least throwing an idea out there.
https://github.com/colinmutter/chromecast-sandbox

aamir123 said:
I recently got the chromecast and rooted it and then quickly tried to tab cast some streaming games. While the quality is very good I noticed quite a bit of lagging. So I went out to see if there was any way around this and couldn't really find anything. Also when playing flash videos the sound still comes out of the computer and not the tv.
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There will always be lag. A faster computer will reduce the lag, but there will always be some lag as it's a decode-reencode.
Not sure about the Flash sound. I casted this insect sound page from Chrome and the sound switched from PC to Chromecast and back when I stopped casting.
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I was thinking we may be able to send these videos directly to the chromecast as they are nothing really but a combination of player + url.
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Sometimes the player does special things, but if it's simply an embedded player grabbing a YouTube link, perhaps an "enhanced Cast" extension for Chrome could sniff for the direct YouTube link and cast that to the YouTube app directly... Or even more elaborate, something like a media downloader, but instead of downloading, you can choose and queue to Chromecast. That could be useful.

bhiga said:
There will always be lag. A faster computer will reduce the lag, but there will always be some lag as it's a decode-reencode.
Not sure about the Flash sound. I casted this insect sound page from Chrome and the sound switched from PC to Chromecast and back when I stopped casting.
Sometimes the player does special things, but if it's simply an embedded player grabbing a YouTube link, perhaps an "enhanced Cast" extension for Chrome could sniff for the direct YouTube link and cast that to the YouTube app directly... Or even more elaborate, something like a media downloader, but instead of downloading, you can choose and queue to Chromecast. That could be useful.
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I tried using first row and the like and have been unable to get sound to come thru tv, matter of fact I've been unable to play full screen, also I was thinking maybe there would be a way to somehow install a custom video player like the many available in the play store directly onto chromecast which would enable direct url and other unsupported content to be played directly by chromecast. This would in turn make streaming as efficient (almost) as the way youtube is handled currently.

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I tried using first row and the like and have been unable to get sound to come thru tv, matter of fact I've been unable to play full screen, also I was thinking maybe there would be a way to somehow install a custom video player like the many available in the play store directly onto chromecast which would enable direct url and other unsupported content to be played directly by chromecast. This would in turn make streaming as efficient (almost) as the way youtube is handled currently.
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Did you try the insect sound page I tried?
Also, do you get sound on the TV for native apps like casting YouTube?

bhiga said:
Did you try the insect sound page I tried?
Also, do you get sound on the TV for native apps like casting YouTube?
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nope sound doesnt work with the insect sounds, but does with youtube whether I'm casting the youtube tab or sending directly. Also when I go to hulu and play a video or go to your sound page I get a black box in hulu (no video) or just a blank space for the insect sounds. When I play video on first row I get video but sound from computer. Just for completeness I just got upgraded via an ota from pwncast

aamir123 said:
nope sound doesnt work with the insect sounds, but does with youtube whether I'm casting the youtube tab or sending directly. Also when I go to hulu and play a video or go to your sound page I get a black box in hulu (no video) or just a blank space for the insect sounds. When I play video on first row I get video but sound from computer. Just for completeness I just got upgraded via an ota from pwncast
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Sounds like your Flash is being rendered in some odd manner that the Cast extension cannot pick up.
What version of Chrome and Cast extension are you using?
Also, what graphics card and driver do you have?

bhiga said:
Sounds like your Flash is being rendered in some odd manner that the Cast extension cannot pick up.
What version of Chrome and Cast extension are you using?
Also, what graphics card and driver do you have?
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Chrome 31, extension 13.1
amd a4 3300m radeon 6480g
using chrome built in flash player

aamir123 said:
Chrome 31, extension 13.1
amd a4 3300m radeon 6480g
using chrome built in flash player
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Thanks, I'll check my configuration when I get home.

bhiga said:
Thanks, I'll check my configuration when I get home.
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any update?

aamir123 said:
any update?
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Just got home... Long day on the failboat.
Chome Version 31.0.1650.57 m
Google Cast 13.1008.0.4
AMD Radeon HD 7700 Series 13.152.0.0

bhiga said:
Just got home... Long day on the failboat.
Chome Version 31.0.1650.57 m
Google Cast 13.1008.0.4
AMD Radeon HD 7700 Series 13.152.0.0
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hmmm both have amd radeon, and same chrome and extension