I've read some news about google ditching support for WP. Now last news I've found on google were from beginning of January, and there was nothing that answered my questions.
Coming from Android, google integration is something I take for granted (gmail, contacts, calendar, tasks... you name it)
I'm asking you, WP8 users:
- What's the situation with gmail? How can you check gmail?
- Are there notifications, or do you need to 'refresh' manually?
- Are notifications on time (push) or are they checked periodically?
- Can you sync WP calendar with google calendar?
- is there anyone who knows exactly how google sync works on Android and WP, and write down differences?
I'm looking at HTC 8S and desire x for my partner but I know nothing about WP whatsoever (except that it's pretty, very much locked and closed, and some news about google removing support). I know there's no native gmail app.
I've tried searching the forums, but search has been 'temporarily down' for quite some time now.
Thanks!
ps: I know there's a thread that compares mentioned phones exactly, I've read it. I'm just curious about google sync.
Google anounced that they would cut support for new connections using Exchange ActiveSync at the end of January. Devices set up to sync with GMail before then will continue to work like before. In Mid-January that date got pushed back to July. So until July you can setup ActiveSync and keep using it after that.
It is likely that Microsoft will issue an update for WP8 before then enabling CalDAV and CardDAV-support although there are no guarantees. We also don't know wether they will add IMAP-idle to allow for GMail-Push-Mail or if you will be limited to mail checking in set intervals (this is currently already possible as an alternative to Exchange ActiveSync).
We'll have to wait how that plays out but for now nothing has changed yet.
As for your other question: Contacts, Calendars and Mails sync - Tasks to my knowledge don't.
Hey all,
just upgraded from a Note2 to the Xperia Z.
I've been trying to setup my Exchange email for over an hour without success,
I've got it setup on the note2 working fine and notifying when mails are coming in. So settings seem right, but it won't budge on the Xperia Z, I know google talked about ending support for Exchange, but surely if it's working on my current phone, why not work on my new phone?
Settings being used.
EMAIL ADDRESS:
*****@gmail.com
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DOMAIN\USERNAME:
\*****
*I've tried
\*****@gmail.com
\*****@googlemail.com
\*****@gmail.com\
\*****@googlemail.com\
\*****@gmail.com
\*****@googlemail.com
\*****@gmail.com\
\*****@googlemail.com\
google\*****@gmail.com
google\*****@googlemail.com
google\*****@gmail.com\
google\*****@googlemail.com\
PASSWORD:
*****
SERVER:
m.google.com
*I've tried
google.com
USE SECURE CONNECTION:
Yes
*i've tried
No
ACCEPT ALL SSL CERTS:
NO
*i've tried
Yes
i've tried everything i can think of, while my other phone is quite happily notifying me of emails coming in, i really don't understand what i'm doing wrong here, surely Google aren't stopping my new phone, but allowing my old phone? If so thats a bit rubbish.
Any and all help welcome, thanks
Luke.
Same here. I have switched to android 2 weeks ago from iphone. On iphone i was getting e-mail notifications from google instantly when message was received on google server for few last years. Now it is not so good. I have checked now set up instructions for google sync and it says that it is for Google apps for business, education and government users. It was free for all before. It is free for all old users though but it seems that when you switch phones while using same gmail account, it does not transfer. Notifications on my ipad are still instant.
Why do you use exchange instead of the Gmail app?
Dsteppa said:
Why do you use exchange instead of the Gmail app?
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One reason especially on my old Samsung was that it displayed emails in a better format, as gmail used to have a stupid limit to the zoom meaning i had to scroll left to right on emails and it was bloody annoying. Also i find Exchange is near instant on arrival, while gmail is anywhere from instant to 5 minutes late.
If this is the scheme of new phones no longer working on exchange i'm pretty pissed off with google.
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If this is the scheme of new phones no longer working on exchange i'm pretty pissed off with google.
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Yes it is. I cannot post links. Google "Google drops Exchange ActiveSync support"
Hello guys,
I have a Lumia 928 which is experimenting issues after some days ago specifically with Yahoo email.
Error is 80004005, it does not sync and download the emails.
I have tried deleting the account , setting it again as yahoo, as "Other email", writing manually IMAP servers and ports, but the problem still continue, I even restarted the phone, but everything continue in the same way.
I have read some info related to this error, but apparently it come for several reasons, so weird. In reality and there is no one solution for this error in the phone, i have seen some solutions for this in the PC.
My Lumia already is running GDR3, and the email was working so good, except that 3 days ago or so, started with this issue. I have installed the GDR3 forcing the phone to do that, I had previously the Lumia Amber... then throught the "Phone for Developers" app, I updated to GDR3
Any ideas to solve this issue?
I give more sure there is problem with yahoo, or what ever you calling it. Wrong email settings you setup. I recomend you forward all incoming emails to live/hotmail/outlook.
Is the Yahoo account linked/synced through your Microsoft account? If not try adding the account to Outlook or Live or whatever the hell they are calling it now. I currently have email through my service provider that syncs flawlessly to my phone but it is also synced through my live account when I access Outlook through a web browser or the Windows 8 app on pc. It is configured as a separate pop 3 account on my 928 and am able to send and receive from that account no problem. Not sure if it makes a difference or not but can't hurt.
Yeah that's definitely odd. Does this happen when on WiFi or Cell Data?
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Is the Yahoo account linked/synced through your Microsoft account? If not try adding the account to Outlook or Live or whatever the hell they are calling it now. I currently have email through my service provider that syncs flawlessly to my phone but it is also synced through my live account when I access Outlook through a web browser or the Windows 8 app on pc. It is configured as a separate pop 3 account on my 928 and am able to send and receive from that account no problem. Not sure if it makes a difference or not but can't hurt.
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Thanks for ur reply, I use only 1 email for everything... it was working without problems ;(
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Yeah that's definitely odd. Does this happen when on WiFi or Cell Data?
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Problem solved
Problem was solved after to receive a Nokia update...now everything is working great!
Due to my company's policy, we need to register the mobile phones using MS Intune Company Portal and can use only Outlook app for the official mails and calendar. Both these apps can be downloaded via Aurora Store but the registration of the device fails due to the Google Play Protect check during the enrollment of the device. The 2nd step during enrollment fails with an error message regarding the network connection or something similar. After struggling with this for almost a week, I finally found some workarounds. Hope this is useful for someone.
For Mails:
I use Blue Mail for all my other mails and was using this with my official mails (Office 365) as well, till about a year ago when the company admins introduced a strict check of Outlook app with Intune Portal as the only way to receive the official mails. Since then I had been using both the MS apps for my official mails in my previous Samsung phone. But this stopped working after I moved over to Huawei due to the GPP check mentioned above. Here's the workaround for it:
This will work only if you have web access to your official emails i.e. you are able to use the a broswer to check your official emails.
In Blue Mail, add new account (instead of using Office 365, use Exchange).
Enter full email address and password.
Check Automatic.
Uncheck ActiveSync. Click Next.
For the Exchange Server setting, use the exchange server URL being used by your company. Typically, it is the 1st 3 in the url of your web access to the outlook email. In a lot of cases, this would be outlook.office365.com
Security - SSL/TLS.
If you see a dropdown Access Type, select EWS (Exchange Web Services). Do not select Automatic or ActiveSync.
That should work. The office365 outlook emails should be visible in Blue Mail. The calendar is not synced with this workaround. The needs a different route in.
For Calendar:
I use Google Calendar for all my other activities and so I wanted to add my outlook entries to GCal to have them all in one place.
The easiest way is to publish your calendar from Outlook Office 365 and import it as a URL in GCal.
Steps:
Go to the web view of your outlook.
Click on the Settings icon.
Click "View All Outlook Settings".
Go to Calendars->Shared Calendars.
Click on the ICS Link and click "Copy Link".
This can now be imported in the google calendar as a separate new calendar but the issue is that any updates to your outlook calendar are synced 1-2 times a day only. If that is fine go ahead and import it. I wanted the sync to happen every 5-10 min.
For this, you can use the GAS-ICS-Sync script from GitHub (https://github.com/derekantrican/GAS-ICS-Sync)
Follow the installation and run instructions on the site. You can configure how often the calendar should sync etc in the code.gs file.
Hope this helps someone
lazerbourne said:
Due to my company's policy, we need to register the mobile phones using MS Intune Company Portal and can use only Outlook app for the official mails and calendar. Both these apps can be downloaded via Aurora Store but the registration of the device fails due to the Google Play Protect check during the enrollment of the device. The 2nd step during enrollment fails with an error message regarding the network connection or something similar. After struggling with this for almost a week, I finally found some workarounds. Hope this is useful for someone.
For Mails:
I use Blue Mail for all my other mails and was using this with my official mails (Office 365) as well, till about a year ago when the company admins introduced a strict check of Outlook app with Intune Portal as the only way to receive the official mails. Since then I had been using both the MS apps for my official mails in my previous Samsung phone. But this stopped working after I moved over to Huawei due to the GPP check mentioned above. Here's the workaround for it:
This will work only if you have web access to your official emails i.e. you are able to use the a broswer to check your official emails.
In Blue Mail, add new account (instead of using Office 365, use Exchange).
Enter full email address and password.
Check Automatic.
Uncheck ActiveSync. Click Next.
For the Exchange Server setting, use the exchange server URL being used by your company. Typically, it is the 1st 3 in the url of your web access to the outlook email. In a lot of cases, this would be outlook.office365.com
Security - SSL/TLS.
If you see a dropdown Access Type, select EWS (Exchange Web Services). Do not select Automatic or ActiveSync.
That should work. The office365 outlook emails should be visible in Blue Mail. The calendar is not synced with this workaround. The needs a different route in.
For Calendar:
I use Google Calendar for all my other activities and so I wanted to add my outlook entries to GCal to have them all in one place.
The easiest way is to publish your calendar from Outlook Office 365 and import it as a URL in GCal.
Steps:
Go to the web view of your outlook.
Click on the Settings icon.
Click "View All Outlook Settings".
Go to Calendars->Shared Calendars.
Click on the ICS Link and click "Copy Link".
This can now be imported in the google calendar as a separate new calendar but the issue is that any updates to your outlook calendar are synced 1-2 times a day only. If that is fine go ahead and import it. I wanted the sync to happen every 5-10 min.
For this, you can use the GAS-ICS-Sync script from GitHub (https://github.com/derekantrican/GAS-ICS-Sync)
Follow the installation and run instructions on the site. You can configure how often the calendar should sync etc in the code.gs file.
Hope this helps someone
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I have outlook working great with google account on it, i didnt had any problem to sign in to google account via outlook
avivasaf said:
I have outlook working great with google account on it, i didnt had any problem to sign in to google account via outlook
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Yes. Outlook works without issues for google, yahoo, hotmail, live etc. The post was for people trying to configure their official office365 outlook emails e.g. [email protected]
Hi all,
I was using my Huawei P40 lite with my company's Intune app and everything was working perfectly fine.
A few days ago, it seems like Intune underwent a major update, and it now requires Google Mobile Services and Google Play Store to download the apps and securize corporate data. It would also now duplicate all apps on your phone's to create a pro environment separated from the normal private environment. Hence now all apps used for pro and private purpose should be duplicated (pro securized outlook app VS private outlook for private mails / one securized google Play store to download a limited set of certified pro apps VS the complete Google play store for private use.
Since my company is forcing to update to the new Intune, looks like the enrollment will fail in Intune on P40 phone with GMS ban. I get the process started, but it will freeze after a few steps, probably when trying setup the Pro environment and installing the Pro Google Play Store on the phone...
- Do you know if this new version of Intune with Google Play Store to securize the company's apps and data is standard or only tailored for my company ?
- If standard, is there any workaround for phones without GMS, or is Huawei/Microsoft working on an alternative for Huawei's P40s ?
I have not found anything so far and I just dont feel like changing to another phone.
Thanks very much for your time.
Jul
Ouatedephoque said:
Hi all,
I was using my Huawei P40 lite with my company's Intune app and everything was working perfectly fine.
A few days ago, it seems like Intune underwent a major update, and it now requires Google Mobile Services and Google Play Store to download the apps and securize corporate data. It would also now duplicate all apps on your phone's to create a pro environment separated from the normal private environment. Hence now all apps used for pro and private purpose should be duplicated (pro securized outlook app VS private outlook for private mails / one securized google Play store to download a limited set of certified pro apps VS the complete Google play store for private use.
Since my company is forcing to update to the new Intune, looks like the enrollment will fail in Intune on P40 phone with GMS ban. I get the process started, but it will freeze after a few steps, probably when trying setup the Pro environment and installing the Pro Google Play Store on the phone...
- Do you know if this new version of Intune with Google Play Store to securize the company's apps and data is standard or only tailored for my company ?
- If standard, is there any workaround for phones without GMS, or is Huawei/Microsoft working on an alternative for Huawei's P40s ?
I have not found anything so far and I just dont feel like changing to another phone.
Thanks very much for your time.
Jul
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I was exactly in your situation and stuck at the same place as you mention, that is why I posted the above workaround. You don't need Intune Portal or Outlook if you follow the steps in my post. The only precondtion being that you have access to your web outlook mails through a browser. For now, this is what is working for me. I'm hoping MS and Huawei will work out a permanent solution soon, but haven't heard anything specific regarding this.
My wife's company also uses Intune. She can't complete the setup. Somewhere in the last step, the setup freezes on some "getting company resources" or something. She submitted a ticket to their IT department but for now there is zero activity over there. I guess this requirement for the GMS is breaking everything. :/ I will try your suggestion, I hope it works. Thanks for the hints.
lazerbourne said:
I was exactly in your situation and stuck at the same place as you mention, that is why I posted the above workaround. You don't need Intune Portal or Outlook if you follow the steps in my post. The only precondtion being that you have access to your web outlook mails through a browser. For now, this is what is working for me. I'm hoping MS and Huawei will work out a permanent solution soon, but haven't heard anything specific regarding this.
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Thanks Lazerbourne.
I havent tried yet. But i cannot access my company's email login to outlook.com from a non-corporate PC. It says my company does not allow.
I learned a bit more about this issue. Turns out it is not only about having Google Mobile Services on your phone or not. Actually Intune now provides the option to the admins to to block Android enrollments by device manufacturer. My company is British, they apprently blocked Huawei devices in their settings... you got the story... so dumb... Not sure something can be done until politics get back to normal.
xchatter said:
My wife's company also uses Intune. She can't complete the setup. Somewhere in the last step, the setup freezes on some "getting company resources" or something. She submitted a ticket to their IT department but for now there is zero activity over there. I guess this requirement for the GMS is breaking everything. :/ I will try your suggestion, I hope it works. Thanks for the hints.
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Most welcome. Hope it worked for your wife. Mine is going good 2 weeks into it.
Ouatedephoque said:
Thanks Lazerbourne.
I havent tried yet. But i cannot access my company's email login to outlook.com from a non-corporate PC. It says my company does not allow.
I learned a bit more about this issue. Turns out it is not only about having Google Mobile Services on your phone or not. Actually Intune now provides the option to the admins to to block Android enrollments by device manufacturer. My company is British, they apprently blocked Huawei devices in their settings... you got the story... so dumb... Not sure something can be done until politics get back to normal.
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Exactly!! Mine too had blocked access to Huawei devices in the enrollments that is what was preventing the access. The web access though works from any OS and browser so the above workaround should work for you (presuming the admins have allowed the access to outlook web mail. This too can be blocked in the config settings of the mail server but most companies allow it since it doesn't store anything locally on the phones). Give it a go and see if it works for you.
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Most welcome. Hope it worked for your wife. Mine is going good 2 weeks into it.
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Hi again,
To report back - I was able to set the BlueMail emails using your method. The only thing I was having as a problem was that there were no notifications on new email. I had to switch from "Push" to "fetch on some interval" and the phone started getting the notifications. I excluded the app from all battery things but the "Push" method didn't work. :/ If you have some hints it would be great - I am not sure does this fetch method on 3 mins impact battery so much? If not then let it be.
I haven't still tried the solution for the calendar but I have to try it soon.
P.S.
My wife's P40 Pro is HMS+microg setup.
Thanks again for your insights.
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Hi again,
To report back - I was able to set the BlueMail emails using your method. The only thing I was having as a problem was that there were no notifications on new email. I had to switch from "Push" to "fetch on some interval" and the phone started getting the notifications. I excluded the app from all battery things but the "Push" method didn't work. :/ If you have some hints it would be great - I am not sure does this fetch method on 3 mins impact battery so much? If not then let it be.
I haven't still tried the solution for the calendar but I have to try it soon.
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My wife's P40 Pro is HMS+microg setup.
Thanks again for your insights.
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Fantastic!! :good:
I would suggest to leave the Fetch on for a day and see how the battery is impacted. The Fetch normally wakes the app in the background and sends a fetch request to the mail server. Theoretically, it shouldn't be a big battery drain.
For my phone, the push notifications are working fine since I'm using the Freeze GSF method (with GMS) to get the notifications working for all the apps. My config HMS+GMS+Frozen GSF.
I've read about conflict issues if you have microG and GMS together on the same phone, so this method may not work for you.
If in the future, you decide to reset the phone, then give it (HMS+GMS+Frozen GSF) a try. That way, all the apps are updated via Aurora Store+Huawei Store, all the notifications and location services for all the apps are working fine. All Huawei updates and Google Play Services updates too work.
lazerbourne said:
Due to my company's policy, we need to register the mobile phones using MS Intune Company Portal and can use only Outlook app for the official mails and calendar. Both these apps can be downloaded via Aurora Store but the registration of the device fails due to the Google Play Protect check during the enrollment of the device. The 2nd step during enrollment fails with an error message regarding the network connection or something similar. After struggling with this for almost a week, I finally found some workarounds. Hope this is useful for someone....
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Tried as per this method. Via EWS the error is "Cannot connect to the server". With ActiveSync it works but downloads just one message saying I must enroll via Portal. ..
I have installed Intune Portal. For that, I needed to downgrade my firmware to .131, install googlefier as per the instructions, upgrade the firmware once again to .157, periodically suppressing series of annoying notifications "Your device is not certified for Play Protect, Google services will not run" (despite I have registered my GWS Device ID with this account and disabled all notifications from Play market already!).
Now Google Services work moreless OK (Play Market works, so do all apps, but the annoying messages keep popping up).
But then Intune only able to create work profile, when going to "Activate your profile" step it generates a lot of "Device not certified for Play Protect" and then finally says "Could not connect to the server, network may be down" etc. No certificate is created on server, nothing. After that, Intune disables itself.
UPDATE: Here Microsoft writes something on the matter. I understand the problem is driven by some specific corporate policies configured in a way to rely on GMS (whilst it can potentially be also delivered without them). Will check with admins if this can be amended somehow.
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/mem/intune/apps/manage-without-gms
@schtirtliz - That is correct. Its due to the reliance on GMS which in some ways is mitigated by using the sideloaded GMS (using Googlify etc.). The main problem is with the Google Play Protect for which there is no workaround yet. Updating the policies on the main server is an option, another could be to ask the admins to enable the web access (EWS). EWS will sooner or later be made obsolete so this workaround may not last too long. Hopefully by then MS would have figured out a way
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@schtirtliz - That is correct. Its due to the reliance on GMS which in some ways is mitigated by using the sideloaded GMS (using Googlify etc.). The main problem is with the Google Play Protect for which there is no workaround yet. Updating the policies on the main server is an option, another could be to ask the admins to enable the web access (EWS). EWS will sooner or later be made obsolete so this workaround may not last too long. Hopefully by then MS would have figured out a way
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Admins won't change the policy I am receiving some reassuring comments on other forums, from people who managed to get it working with some instructions like this
хттпс://youtu.be/HBnst3IgFlA
But nothing worked for me yet...
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@schtirtliz - That is correct. Its due to the reliance on GMS which in some ways is mitigated by using the sideloaded GMS (using Googlify etc.). The main problem is with the Google Play Protect for which there is no workaround yet.
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Update. I have managed to install GMS with another instructions from here https://youtu.be/XvFQkavPZnk
All apps work perfectly now, no errors.
However, Intune still does not work. Once it creates work profile, it clones all Google stuff into it, and immediately new "badged" version of Google Play starts to generate same Play Protect errors and block further progress (unbadged one keeps working well).
Is there any way to sideload and install "GMS fix.apk" under work profile? Maybe via adb etc.? I tried but it says no access to shell... how does that cloning process work, why does it clone some unpatched version rather than taking patched one from the system files?
Thanks!
I doubt that would work since the Work profile is created to prevent exactly this i.e. installing patched apks or using root hiding apps for rooted devices.
Got this to work, but does anyone know how I can det up shared inbox? Its easy in Outlook, but cant see how in blue ?
LarsChristian said:
Got this to work, but does anyone know how I can det up shared inbox? Its easy in Outlook, but cant see how in blue ?
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Do you mean Unified Inbox? Click on the top left icon of the app, you'll see the Unified Inbox and also the individual mail boxes.
Enable Play Protect
LarsChristian said:
Got this to work, but does anyone know how I can det up shared inbox? Its easy in Outlook, but cant see how in blue ?
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Hi, please, did you manage to enable the Google Protect?
Thanks!
I managed to get both email and calendar using "Nine - Email & Calendar" from Play Store. I'm using gsf freeze, and also have Vanced microG installed. Installed GMS this summer, don't use googlify. Only hoping it will last..
Used the settings from first post:
-full email ([email protected], CN = Common Name from AD), not my [email protected]
- Exchange Server instead of Office 365
- SSL/TLS
Did not have a choice to uncheck ActiveSync, so this is checked.